PFS PBP Gameday IV: #07 - 04 The Ironbound Schism -- GM Hmm (Inactive)

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Scarab Sages

AC 19 T 13 FF 16 | HP 84(87)/84(87)| F +13 R +10 W +17 (+4 to all vs. undead, +1 vs death effects) | Init +3| Perc +9 Human (Half Varisian, Half Tian-Min)
Spells Per Day Remaining:
3-4/5 2-5/6 1-6/7
Spells Active:
Haste

See you soon, GM! Have fun.

Silver Crusade

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Female halfling pal 2/sor 3/dd 3┃hp 57/57┃AC 34 · T 16 · FF 31 (+2 vs AoO)┃CMD 20; +2 vs bull rush, grp, rep, trip┃F+12 · R+10 · W+11 (+2 v fear, –2 v disease)┃Resist cold 5 · neg engy 10 ┃Init +3┃Per +4┃speed 30 ft┃Diplomacy +14 · Kn (arcana) +9 · Spellcraft +10┃Spells 2nd—4/4, 1st—6/8┃Lay Hands (1d6) 6/6 ┃Bast. Good 0/1┃Lucky Halfling 1/1┃Adptble Luck 3/3┃Breath 1/1┃Conditions: mage armor, haste

I imagine Azara being all, "We cool, man. We cool."

Sovereign Court

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Ifrit Swashbuckler (11)

Anything to get them to do the digging!

Sovereign Court

Ifrit Swashbuckler (11)

So, although Kiku is correct in that we can't purchase spellcasting services for Limited Wish until we reach 12th level, maybe we could give the Ettin that amount of money for them to purchase it? The effects would simply be handled offscreen with no current benefit to us other than avoiding combat.

Although I have a feeling the angry head will engage in combat anyways =\


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That's a clever idea, but that does not deal with the problems that Vahr would have getting her twin to travel and then communicate with high-level casters.

Apparently, there are only two chronicles out there with limited wish scrolls, both very high level indeed. The module assumes that most PCs will eventually wind up in combat.

Scarab Sages

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AC 19 T 13 FF 16 | HP 84(87)/84(87)| F +13 R +10 W +17 (+4 to all vs. undead, +1 vs death effects) | Init +3| Perc +9 Human (Half Varisian, Half Tian-Min)
Spells Per Day Remaining:
3-4/5 2-5/6 1-6/7
Spells Active:
Haste

I figured it would be no good, but Kiku would try nonetheless.

Her last name means "charity," for goodness sakes.


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Your kind heart is magnificent, and don't discount it! This group has wrung a ton of value out of this module from their combined diplomatic efforts -- even here with one Ettin head hell bent on killing you no matter what you do.

The combination of five diplomats and Harsk (he who can translate any giant tongue, anywhere) has really opened up a bunch of RP options for all of you. I've been having a blast watching you all at work.

Scarab Sages

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AC 19 T 13 FF 16 | HP 84(87)/84(87)| F +13 R +10 W +17 (+4 to all vs. undead, +1 vs death effects) | Init +3| Perc +9 Human (Half Varisian, Half Tian-Min)
Spells Per Day Remaining:
3-4/5 2-5/6 1-6/7
Spells Active:
Haste

Yeah. I love all the diplomacy :)

Don't forget your own role in it! You have been giving us string material to play with, which helps. If the GM isn't giving you anything to work with or reacting to what you give them, it often feels like there's no reason to put in the effort.

Sovereign Court

Ranger 2/Rogue 10 | HP 85/99| AC 29/ 22(23) touch/23(24)flatfooted | Sneak Attack +5d6 | Resiliency 1/day F+16,R+22,W+13 ((1/day can reroll Will save)| Init. +10(+12)| Perc +19/24*(+21/26)| Evasion | Trap Sense +4 | Improved Uncanny Dodge

Sorry for the delay in posting. Today went off the rails really quickly!


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It's okay. Azara hasn't posted yet either. My guess is that this Monday has hit everyone really hard!

I was super busy at work, so it was a relief that all my games were slow today.

Sczarni

⚣ Outsider (Californian) Gestalt Commoner/Expert

Mom's house caught fire. Grandma fell and broke her leg rushing to mom's. All while I was taking an exam. Imagine the voicemails.

It's been a fun day. Leaving the ER soon.


Ouch!

Sorry to hear about this, Nefreet. I hope your grandmother recovers quickly and that no one else was hurt.

Scarab Sages

AC 19 T 13 FF 16 | HP 84(87)/84(87)| F +13 R +10 W +17 (+4 to all vs. undead, +1 vs death effects) | Init +3| Perc +9 Human (Half Varisian, Half Tian-Min)
Spells Per Day Remaining:
3-4/5 2-5/6 1-6/7
Spells Active:
Haste

Oh, no :(

I hope they are okay! Take your time!

Silver Crusade

Male Halfling Sorcerer 7, Rogue 3, Arcane Trickster 10

I am so sorry to hear that, Nefreet. :(


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Oh, Nefreet, I am so sorry. That does not sound fun at all. My best wishes to you and yours for a speedy recovery.

Sovereign Court

Ranger 2/Rogue 10 | HP 85/99| AC 29/ 22(23) touch/23(24)flatfooted | Sneak Attack +5d6 | Resiliency 1/day F+16,R+22,W+13 ((1/day can reroll Will save)| Init. +10(+12)| Perc +19/24*(+21/26)| Evasion | Trap Sense +4 | Improved Uncanny Dodge

Good lord, Nefreet! Hope things get better soon. That is one awful day!

Liberty's Edge

Nerfreet hope everything is OK!

Sczarni

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⚣ Outsider (Californian) Gestalt Commoner/Expert

Thanks, everyone =).

Grandma actually fractured her pelvis but today she's already up and walking (using a walker).

Insurance ppl are going through the house and we're temporarily moving mom and her husband into my sister's house down the street.

But, everyone's better today than yesterday.

Let's game!


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I was going to mass roll will saves for all of you, but I've lost track of who's raging and who isn't, and who gets a bonus from Yojimbo. Can you guys roll them? Anyone within 60 feet, which I think is everyone but Harsk, gets to roll.

And can someone help tally who gets what advantage to the save?

Busy day, I'll be off until the evening.

Hugs,
Hmm

Sovereign Court

Ranger 2/Rogue 10 | HP 85/99| AC 29/ 22(23) touch/23(24)flatfooted | Sneak Attack +5d6 | Resiliency 1/day F+16,R+22,W+13 ((1/day can reroll Will save)| Init. +10(+12)| Perc +19/24*(+21/26)| Evasion | Trap Sense +4 | Improved Uncanny Dodge

Hmm, I used my Folio reroll on the Will save. I can send you a pic of it via email, if you want me to. I leave it in my trunk for just these occasions, lol.


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This is honor system, Shel. If you tell me you have a shirt or folio reroll, I'll believe you.

Hmm


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Hey everyone, I thought that I'd get a GM post in tonight but I'm beat. I'll catch up with you all in the morning.

Silver Crusade

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Female halfling pal 2/sor 3/dd 3┃hp 57/57┃AC 34 · T 16 · FF 31 (+2 vs AoO)┃CMD 20; +2 vs bull rush, grp, rep, trip┃F+12 · R+10 · W+11 (+2 v fear, –2 v disease)┃Resist cold 5 · neg engy 10 ┃Init +3┃Per +4┃speed 30 ft┃Diplomacy +14 · Kn (arcana) +9 · Spellcraft +10┃Spells 2nd—4/4, 1st—6/8┃Lay Hands (1d6) 6/6 ┃Bast. Good 0/1┃Lucky Halfling 1/1┃Adptble Luck 3/3┃Breath 1/1┃Conditions: mage armor, haste

@ Shel: did you include the +1 dodge bonus to your AC from haste?

@ GM: Tomorrow (Fri) will be pretty busy for me—my wife and I are driving to another state to look at a house, we might go for a significant hike, and then our Iron Gods AP home game is playing at our house in the evening. I will try to get a post in during the drive, but it might be short, and I will probably not have map access.

Saturday is going to be even more busy. I will try to post when I can, but it will be sporadic over the next few of days. My apologies.

Sovereign Court

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Ifrit Swashbuckler (11)

My apologies for the delay today. Catching up on school stuff after the other events this week has been exhausting.

Trying to fit in time with this guy I just met, too. Went on our first official date tonight (spin class followed by dinner). All signs point to a second date next week!

Saturday I'll be out of town but I'll be able to post in the evening, about the same time as now.

Sovereign Court

Ranger 2/Rogue 10 | HP 85/99| AC 29/ 22(23) touch/23(24)flatfooted | Sneak Attack +5d6 | Resiliency 1/day F+16,R+22,W+13 ((1/day can reroll Will save)| Init. +10(+12)| Perc +19/24*(+21/26)| Evasion | Trap Sense +4 | Improved Uncanny Dodge

You are right, Juniper. Shel's current AC is 28.

Also, I will also be really hit and miss here until Sunday afternoon. Really busy few days upcoming, so if Bot Buddy makes an appearance for me, that's cool.


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That's three people who are going to be booked until Sunday... How about we break the game until then? I'll put a post in this morning as the bad guy, and people who want to put combat posts in can, but otherwise I'll assume we're breaking for the weekend.

Hmm

Sovereign Court

Ifrit Swashbuckler (11)

Sure thing =).

Silver Crusade

Male dwarf Ranger 14 | HP 1118 | AC 30 (34 vs giants); Touch 18; FF 24 | F +12; R +16; W +11 | CMB+16; CMD 34| Speed 20 ft | Init +5 | Perc +24 | Stealth: +15 Ranger 14

Sounds good.

Dark Archive

Male N Half-Orc Skald 11 (songs) | AC: 24 (12 Tch, 22* Fl ) | DR: 1/- | CMB: +11, CMD: 21 | F: +14 , R: +10, W: +12 | Init: +2 | Perc: +10, SM: +20 (GM: +5) | Speed 30ft | HP: 85/85 | Raging Song: 31/36 | Glorymane Attacks: 3/3 Spells: 1st- 6/6 2nd- 3/5 3rd- 5/5 4th- 2/3 | Spell Kenning 2/2 | Active conditions: Heroism(Extended)

Shel didn't get hasted though. She and Grigorii were too far apart :/

I will miss you all dearly in the meantime.


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Yes, I'll miss you all too!

Dark Archive

Male N Half-Orc Skald 11 (songs) | AC: 24 (12 Tch, 22* Fl ) | DR: 1/- | CMB: +11, CMD: 21 | F: +14 , R: +10, W: +12 | Init: +2 | Perc: +10, SM: +20 (GM: +5) | Speed 30ft | HP: 85/85 | Raging Song: 31/36 | Glorymane Attacks: 3/3 Spells: 1st- 6/6 2nd- 3/5 3rd- 5/5 4th- 2/3 | Spell Kenning 2/2 | Active conditions: Heroism(Extended)

Well, not Azara. :P

It didn't affect anything this round, but the miss chance from the spirits only applies to non-adjacent attacks. Wouldn't want the monster to lose an opportunity to gargle with a halfling.

Silver Crusade

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Female halfling pal 2/sor 3/dd 3┃hp 57/57┃AC 34 · T 16 · FF 31 (+2 vs AoO)┃CMD 20; +2 vs bull rush, grp, rep, trip┃F+12 · R+10 · W+11 (+2 v fear, –2 v disease)┃Resist cold 5 · neg engy 10 ┃Init +3┃Per +4┃speed 30 ft┃Diplomacy +14 · Kn (arcana) +9 · Spellcraft +10┃Spells 2nd—4/4, 1st—6/8┃Lay Hands (1d6) 6/6 ┃Bast. Good 0/1┃Lucky Halfling 1/1┃Adptble Luck 3/3┃Breath 1/1┃Conditions: mage armor, haste

Oops. I thought Shel got hasted as well. :/

It seems we are nearing the end of this little adventure. I want to take the opportunity to express how much I have enjoyed this game. It has been an absolute blast. I hope that we all get to play in another game together after this one very soon.


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"Doom Girl" // ♫ // ◇ ◈ ↺ // PbP Events // // PbP GM Kit // Silver Bark Golden Blades Map // ★ DA Duology Maps

You have no idea how much I wanted to GM for all of you again. I had considered offering to do another scenario for all of you at the end of this one, and then everything started going nuts for me and I realized that I need to pare down on PbP. Once this, Overflow Archives and my Serpent's Rise tables conclude, my PbP games will drop down to a much more sane and manageable number.

You all have been a dream to GM for. Really, you have!

As it is, I think that the next time I'll GM PbP is when Jesse calls a PbP gameday in February. It would be my honor to GM for all of you then, if you'll have me.

Silver Crusade

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Male dwarf Ranger 14 | HP 1118 | AC 30 (34 vs giants); Touch 18; FF 24 | F +12; R +16; W +11 | CMB+16; CMD 34| Speed 20 ft | Init +5 | Perc +24 | Stealth: +15 Ranger 14
GM Hmm wrote:
It would be my honor to GM for all of you then, if you'll have me.

That would be awesome. You've done a FANTASTIC job with this game!

Sovereign Court

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Ranger 2/Rogue 10 | HP 85/99| AC 29/ 22(23) touch/23(24)flatfooted | Sneak Attack +5d6 | Resiliency 1/day F+16,R+22,W+13 ((1/day can reroll Will save)| Init. +10(+12)| Perc +19/24*(+21/26)| Evasion | Trap Sense +4 | Improved Uncanny Dodge

It would be a blast to muster a table with you lot again! It's been great, and many thanks to Hmm for doing such a great job for all of us!

Sovereign Court

Ifrit Swashbuckler (11)

I'd love to again, as well. PM me whenever you are ready.

Though I probably won't play the Swashbuckler again. Seems easier for all parties involved if there's no parrying/riposting and other off-turn shenanigans.


Put the parry/ripost in a spoiler, or allow the GM to roll them. They do complicate parsing the combat, but a spoiler would help with that.

Ask around, see how others have handled it in PbP. Might be a better way.


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"Doom Girl" // ♫ // ◇ ◈ ↺ // PbP Events // // PbP GM Kit // Silver Bark Golden Blades Map // ★ DA Duology Maps

No, please play Azara again. Just spoiler the parry / ripostes. I've had super fun with them. By the way, swashbucklers are tasty. The monster would tell you so himself if he could talk...

The Exchange

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Male Human Artillery

I gotta say, as one of the people just watching this game unfold it has been fun as an audience member! I wasn't going to watch as much as I did to avoid spoilers for this scenario but you guys made it so much fun to watch I couldn't stop!


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I'm so happy that you all enjoyed yourselves! We're very much at the tail end here. It will likely finish when we all reconvene on Monday.


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I'll second Codanous' thoughts; this has been a great game and group to watch! :)

Scarab Sages

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AC 19 T 13 FF 16 | HP 84(87)/84(87)| F +13 R +10 W +17 (+4 to all vs. undead, +1 vs death effects) | Init +3| Perc +9 Human (Half Varisian, Half Tian-Min)
Spells Per Day Remaining:
3-4/5 2-5/6 1-6/7
Spells Active:
Haste

I would like to echo everyone else and say that I've had a great time and I would love to have an opportunity to play again.

Once a few more of the many PFS PbPs I'm in finish, I might try my hand at GMing one. If I do, I'll make sure to let you guys know :D

And thank you to the kind words from our observers!


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Hey, I thought that I'd get a jump on chronicle sheets today. Questions for all of you:

1) Is everyone on normal track for XP?

2) I have job rolls from Grigorii, Kiku and Azara. If anyone else has a job roll, I need it now.

3) We're out of combat, and people are posting who I thought would not be. Do we want to just finish this up?

Silver Crusade

Male dwarf Ranger 14 | HP 1118 | AC 30 (34 vs giants); Touch 18; FF 24 | F +12; R +16; W +11 | CMB+16; CMD 34| Speed 20 ft | Init +5 | Perc +24 | Stealth: +15 Ranger 14

1. I'm on slow

2. I have a hunting lodge so here's mine. Survival: 1d20 + 16 ⇒ (18) + 16 = 34

3. Sure!


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1. I'm on no advancement track

2. Perform: Comedy: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (19) + 3 = 22

3. Does that mean I get a cookie?


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Absolutely! A cookie coming up, with extra bugs -- just the way you like it. That's your best job roll yet!

Sovereign Court

Ranger 2/Rogue 10 | HP 85/99| AC 29/ 22(23) touch/23(24)flatfooted | Sneak Attack +5d6 | Resiliency 1/day F+16,R+22,W+13 ((1/day can reroll Will save)| Init. +10(+12)| Perc +19/24*(+21/26)| Evasion | Trap Sense +4 | Improved Uncanny Dodge

No day job here. Shel is on normal xp track as well.

Silver Crusade

Female halfling pal 2/sor 3/dd 3┃hp 57/57┃AC 34 · T 16 · FF 31 (+2 vs AoO)┃CMD 20; +2 vs bull rush, grp, rep, trip┃F+12 · R+10 · W+11 (+2 v fear, –2 v disease)┃Resist cold 5 · neg engy 10 ┃Init +3┃Per +4┃speed 30 ft┃Diplomacy +14 · Kn (arcana) +9 · Spellcraft +10┃Spells 2nd—4/4, 1st—6/8┃Lay Hands (1d6) 6/6 ┃Bast. Good 0/1┃Lucky Halfling 1/1┃Adptble Luck 3/3┃Breath 1/1┃Conditions: mage armor, haste

1. Normal XP
2. Juniper stewards Fangwood Keep in lieu of a Day Job. It earns her an extra prestige point (but not extra Fame).
3. Sure. Today is still pretty busy, but not as much as yesterday or tomorrow.

Dark Archive

Male N Half-Orc Skald 11 (songs) | AC: 24 (12 Tch, 22* Fl ) | DR: 1/- | CMB: +11, CMD: 21 | F: +14 , R: +10, W: +12 | Init: +2 | Perc: +10, SM: +20 (GM: +5) | Speed 30ft | HP: 85/85 | Raging Song: 31/36 | Glorymane Attacks: 3/3 Spells: 1st- 6/6 2nd- 3/5 3rd- 5/5 4th- 2/3 | Spell Kenning 2/2 | Active conditions: Heroism(Extended)

Normal xp track for me. I'm going to hit level 8 and retrain out of my level of Barbarian.

Scarab Sages

AC 19 T 13 FF 16 | HP 84(87)/84(87)| F +13 R +10 W +17 (+4 to all vs. undead, +1 vs death effects) | Init +3| Perc +9 Human (Half Varisian, Half Tian-Min)
Spells Per Day Remaining:
3-4/5 2-5/6 1-6/7
Spells Active:
Haste

Normal track here!

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A Pathfinder Society Scenario designed for levels 7–11.

The cataclysmic Earthfall shattered the ancient Thassilonian civilization, and like its slumbering runelords who fled the destruction, many ruins lie hidden. The Ironbound Archipelago was once part of Edasseril, kingdom of envy, and word has reached the Pathfinder Society that an ancient ruin has emerged on the isle of Flintyreach. Can the PCs gain the local half-orcs’ trust and brave the resident giants’ wrath to secure this archaeological treasure?

Written by John Compton and Linda Zayas-Palmer.

____________________________________________

I am doing this scenario at the urgent request of two awesome PFS GMs who have never had a chance to play PbP before: Nefreet and the Fox.

Everyone else: the only reserved seats are for the Fox, Nefreet and possibly Gerald. (Gerald, like Nefreet and the Fox, is an awesome player who is running out of open scenarios.)

Everyone (including Gerald, the Fox and Nefreet) gets to apply and give me some sample RP. I'll be picking the rest of the group from the remaining applicants, and won't necessarily go with the first people to apply.

If you're interested, please apply with the following:

Player's forum handle:
Character name:
PFS#
Race/Class(es)/Level(s):
Faction:
Any special rules, boons, or corner cases you need to let me know about:

A few sentences about your character and his or her previous adventures, both out of character and in character as your character would describe him or herself.

A promise that you will post every day, and RP the heck out of your characters.

___________________________________________

Note: This will be starting 7-10 days after the official PFS PBP Gameday start to give me time to prep the scenario and pick the group.

To keep this moving, I'll likely make my selections on next Tuesday.

____________________________________________

About me: I recently completed GMing my first PFS PBP scenario Risen from the Sands.

(I've GMed other PFS live before.)

As a GM, I tend to be RP-heavy and will occasionally have random wackiness from NPCs. You have been warned.

Dark Archive

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Player's forum handle: KingOfAnything
Character name: Grigorii
PFS# 93593-3
Race/Class(es)/Level(s): Half-Orc Skald 6/ Barbarian 1
Faction: Dark Archive
Any special rules, boons, or corner cases you need to let me know about: Nothing too special. I have Glorymane, and my rage powers are Lesser Spirit Totem and Spirit Totem.

You never thought you’d call a half-orc attractive, but there is no other word for the man standing before you. The tattoos and scars across his broad shoulders, muscled arms, and back draw your eyes towards areas at which you really shouldn’t stare. You miss what was said as he laughs heartily, combing back his dark, wavy hair with one hand. A deep, rich sound. Relieved to find yourself looking at his face, you can’t help but notice his eyes, shining from below his pronounced brow. They are a bright piercing blue that stand out in contrast with his grey-tinged complexion; so different from the dark eyes natural to his race. As your gaze strays down his face, you notice his tusks. Small and white, accentuating his easy smile. They peek out of his mouth as if he were perpetually biting his lip. As you take it all in, he draws the lyre from his back, strums a chord, and begins a song.

vaguely russian accent
"Hah! As I say, everyone has a little anger inside them. I just inspire them to let it out! I was never the strongest fighter in my youth, but when you grow up in the fighting pits you learn to win or you die. I learned to keep strong friends around and to ... encourage them to fight they're best. I had quite the fearsome reputation. It must have caught the attention of the local shaman, because he took me in and taught me the ways of spirits and magic and gave me these scars. Now, I use what he taught me to aid my comrades in battle as we seek dangerous magical artifacts to study and control."

Grigorii is boisterous and easy around people but he distrusts everyone, especially figures of authority, and rebuffs personal questions with diversion, lies, or (if necessary) intimidation. However, he's fiercely loyal to allies once they've been proven in a fight. Most recently he has been to Absalom investigating the Silver Mount collection, in Magnimar's Bronze House rooting out Aspis plots, and in Bellis, Andoran defending the town from the forces of the Fellnight Queen.

I usually inspire rage at the table with my Taylor Swift parody lyrics, but I am open to suggestions if anyone has a favorite song they would like adapted Rage Songs

Silver Crusade

I will check back in later tonight. I haven't chosen which character to play yet, and I might decide based on the composition of the party (the character level will be 7, 8, or 9).

Sczarni

I likewise have lots of characters. I could do:

Azara Emberkin, LN Chelaxian Asmodeus-worshiping slave-owning Ifrit Swashbuckler(8). Sovereign Court. If we're doing low Tier I'd prefer to play her.

Dr. Narsius Blote IV, CN Taldan Wizard(1)/Bloatmage(4)/Pathfinder Savant(4). Exchange. If there's no arcane I'll play him.

Faan, CG Tian Half-elf Life Oracle(10), and Ricardo, a transgender Male Lyrakien Azata. Grand Lodge. If there's no healer I'll play them.

Jaswinder Aniljit, N Vudrani Pantheist Urban Ranger(9)/Animal Speaker Bard(1). Exchange. Archery-focused, rides a 10'×5' Flying Carpet, has a Grappling Snake Animal Companion that's not necessary if we have 6 players.

I can post RP stuff after we figure out who we have.

Silver Crusade

This is the character that is at the top of my list to play, but the others are close. So if anyone objects to Juniper, I really am happy to play someone else.

Player's forum handle The Fox
Character name Juniper Berrythwaite, of the Westcrown Berrythwaites
PFS# 75958-10
Race/Class(es)/Level(s) LG Female halfling Paladin (sacred shield) 2, Sorcerer (draconic) 3, Dragon Disciple 2
Deity Apsu
Faction Silver Crusade

Any special rules, boons, or corner cases you need to let me know about
Juniper is built around defense. She has a very high AC. Some GMs find it to be annoying, so if it is something that will bother you, I am happy to play a different character. She also is able to boost her allies' ACs and CMDs through the Blundering Defense feat, her +1 guarding quickdraw darkwood shield, and the Aid Another action.
Here are the bonuses to AC and CMD and their type that she can bestow to her allies.
Blundering Defense Either +4 luck or +2 luck; all adjacent allies. (If she uses Total Defense, her allies gain a +4 luck bonus, but she cannot also use Aid Another.)
Aid Another +4 untyped to one adjacent ally—she has the Helpful trait.
+1 guarding darkwood quickdraw shield +1 untyped; as a free action at the start of her turn to any ally she can see.

She also has the feat Lucky Halfling which allows her to roll a saving throw (using her bonus) and replace a save that an ally just made (before the results are known). The range on this is 30 feet, and it is usable 1/day.

Introduction
The door opens. In its frame stands a small armored figure, covered head to toe in soot and wielding a chimney broom. As the miniature knight steps forward, it becomes clear that she is a halfling. Her jet-black locks, tightly braided and bound, are only slightly darker in hue than the charcoal soot and ash smudging her cheeks.

She steps forward with a bright and cheerful smile. "Hi! I'm Juniper. Juniper Berrythw—OOMPH!" She trips over her much-too-long cloak, a cloud of soot exploding off her armor as she falls face first onto the floor and her chimney broom skitters across the room.

As she stands, Juniper removes the blindfold that was covering her eyes and attempts to dust herself off, but her small soot-covered hands merely smear the soot across her mithral armor.

"Sorry about that. Here, let me get that for you. Oh, look I've gone and smudged your floor. Don't worry, it's good clean soot, it'll come right out in a jiffy.

"As I was saying, I'm Juniper Berrythwaite, of the Westcrown Berrythwaites. I'm pleased to meet ya." She flashes a big grin and extends her soot-covered hand in greeting.

"I just got back from the Ruins of Bonekeep. It was very scary, but I made sure no one got hurt. Before that, I was sent deep into the Mwangi Expanse in search of a lost Venture Captain. That was quite exciting.

"Enough chatting, where is this chimney that needs sweeping?" she asks as she retrieves her broom and puts her blindfold back on.

Juniper is always cheerful and happy to be along on any adventure. She is always quick to help those in need. Detesting combat, Juniper prefers to try diplomatic channels before resorting to violence. She will talk for hours on end of the magnificence of Apsu and his draconic children to anyone who will listen, and she has found a special rapport with kobolds in her past adventures.

Despite the fact that Juniper is perhaps the clumsiest halfling in the entire Inner Sea, she brings great luck to her adventuring companions.

She often wears a blindfold. If asked about it, she will tell you that she is trying to hone her other senses. It is something she saw some monks doing during one of her previous adventures. It certainly has not made her any less clumsy.

Silver Crusade

Yikes! Juniper probably won't care much for Azara!

It's cool with me though. ;)

Sovereign Court

This is Gerald. I have to level Shel to 8, as she just completed an adventure. I'll fill in the details later. She's mostly a skills character, but she is quite a little tyrant. She plans on becoming a Venture Captain, and she's not going to let the rest of you screw that up for her. Not a typical halfling in personality at all.

Silver Crusade

Greetings!

I have a level 7 spiritualist I would be interested in bringing. I will post some sample RP, stats, PFS info, etc...when I get back to my desktop in a while.

Sovereign Court

Player: Gerald
Character: Barroness Shel Whispertongue
PFS #: 12445-3
Halfling Rogue 6/Ranger 2
Faction: Sovereign Court
Special boons: Only one out of the ordinary is letting me take a single item that is both a hat of disguise and a circlet of persuasion. Kinda nifty, but not really strong.

Shel would roll her eyes when asked to recount her achievements with the Society. "I suppose you've not been reading the recent Chronicles, have you? No big shock, most want to go on big adventures, but don't prepare appropriately. Recently, I've been smoothing over relations with some strange fey and their accursed clock. I'm one of the few members of this Society that has one of these as well," she brags as she pulls out a well work copy of A Thread of Silver. "If you don't know what this is, I'm not telling you. Suffice it to say, in certain parts of Golarian this would make me a wanted woman."

"Basically, I'm not here to carry you on this mission. I'm in line for a promotion, and before long I'll be a Venture Captain. None of you are going to mess this mission up and give me a black mark. Ill handle the preparations, the rest of you do your job, and we will all go home happy and famous."

Scarab Sages

Player: Hrothdane
Character: Kiku Caritas
PFS #: 99807-19
Race/Class/Level: Human Spiritualist (onmyoji)/7
Faction: Scarab Sages
Special Rules:
I don't know if being one of the new occult classes counts, but she's a spiritualist. Think unchained summoner except not as cheesy ;) Her archetype makes her a divine caster instead of a psychic one, and it lets her cast certain cleric spells when her phantom isn't fully manifested.

Also, as long as her phantom is out (which it almost always is), it has an aura that gives all allies within 20 feet a +2 competence bonus on attack rolls and saving throws.

Now to the fun RP part....

Appearance:
Picture
The young woman wears a loose Varisian shawl of gold and green around her head which criss-crosses behind her and back again, eventually tying into a Tien obi on her waist. Dozens of symbols—five dozen to be exact—adorn the cloth: the silhouette of a woman dancing in front of a moon, a katana in front of a sun, a spiral, a butterfly of many colors and its shadow, a scarred breastplate, and so forth.

Much like her shawl/obi, the young woman herself is a mixture of Tien and Varisian features. Her fair skin and the folds on her eyes favor far Tian-Xia, while her ash brown hair and sharp features favor Varisia. Each of her eyes has a different color: the left is sapphire blue and the right is emerald green.

A young woman rushes over to help Juniper. ”Oh, my goodness! Are you okay?” She begins trying to help the halfling brush herself off.

The young woman sees the others gathered, then suddenly jumps as she remembers something.

”My sincerest apologies! I have forgotten to introduce myself.”

She steps back, then gives a deep bow of practiced formality, holding her staff horizontal at her waist as she does.

”Greetings. I am most honored to meet all of you. My name is Kiku. I am an onmyoji, like my mother before me. I am on a pilgrimage to learn more about ancient Thassilon so that I can protect my people from its Sin magic. I also try to help the lost and wayward spirits of the dead pass on to the Boneyard.”

Kiku bows once more, this time facing Shel specifically.

”I sincerely apologize. I have neglected in my duty to remain up-to-date on the chronicles, Honorable Baronness. I will do my earnest best to not be any trouble for you.”

Kiku gives a kind, polite smile.

Kiku worships all 54 empyreal lords, along with Desna, Pharasma, Qi Zhong, Kofusachi, Shizuru, and Tsukiyo. Mechanically for PFS, she worships Ashava and “venerates” all the others.

In honor of her main inspiration, I flavored many of her spells as Final Fantasy spells. Shield is Protect, Cure Light Wounds is Cure, Cure Moderate Wounds is Cura, and Cure Serious Wounds is Curaga, Haste is...Haste, Dispel Magic is...Dispel, etc....


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I can see this will be an interesting group already!

Hmm

Sczarni

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The Fox wrote:

Yikes! Juniper probably won't care much for Azara!

It's cool with me though. ;)

TWO Halflings? Low tier? Oh, goodness. This will be an exercise in "cooperate" for Azara...

I'll post an introduction for her either tonight or tomorrow morning. I usually voice her and do body posturing and gesturing, and much condescending laughter and smirks, so portraying that via text should be interesting.

(she's probably my jerkiest character, but she's an outlier; it's an insecurity representive of her being physically similar in appearance to Tieflings, which are regarded as 2nd class citizens in Cheliax, and the struggles she's had to endured because of it. Also, my interpretation of having above average INT/CHA but a 7 WIS)

Scarab Sages

Picture

He wears drooping robes over the lamellar armor of a samurai, a katana and wakizashi hanging at his side. A fierce mask and a broad-brimmed jingasa cover his head. All of the wispy, ectoplasmic form of the figure is made of reds flowing into oranges, then yellows, then back again.

”I am Yojimbo. I will require compensation from my summoner before undertaking any task, as per the terms of our contract. Once compensated, I will perform to the utmost of my abilities.”

Yojimbo is Kiku's phantom. She has a “tab” with him, so anything she asks for will just get added to it. It's completely an RP thing, nothing to do with his mechanics :D

Silver Crusade

Nefreet wrote:
Also, my interpretation of having above average INT/CHA but a 7 WIS

Did you see Juniper's stats? ;)

Silver Crusade

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Low wisdom characters are the most fun to play imo. My favorite character to play is my Cleric of Iomedae Sorceress that thinks she's a cleric, who is rocking a 5 now (thank you Threefold Aspect!).

Silver Crusade

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Looking through the candidates so far, I am delighted by how much everyone has invested into Diplomacy! :D

Silver Crusade

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Love it, too :D

Personally, I try to play character concepts that would have a good diplomacy score b/c I discovered long ago that A. I like talking to NPCs while also B. Not screwing over the party's attempts to diplomacize.

Liberty's Edge

Is this full?

I posted 2 characters. I'd REALLY like to get in on this :)

Silver Crusade

This character is an oracle of life.

Player's forum handle: Qstor
Character name: Davina
PFS# 2072-14
Race/Class(es)/Level(s): Oracle 7
Faction: Silver Crusade
Any special rules, boons, or corner cases you need to let me know about:
Aasimar boon

"A few sentences about your character and his or her
previous adventures, both out of character and in character as your character would describe him or herself."

A stunning blonde woman stands before you. Her eyes are sparking blue.
A pale golden light seems to grow from her near white hair. Her skin appears unblemished.

She is dressed in a chain shirt, has a shield with the sign of the Everlight slung across her back and a mace tucked in her belt. Her knee high deerskin leather boots are fashionable but well worn with travel. She speaks in a soft yet firm voice.

Her voice sounds like Jewel Staite

"I am Davina of Absalom. I have recently returned from the Worldwound where I aided my comrades against the demonic forces plague that area. My faith in the Everlight have granted me powers to spring forth divine energy which harms these creatures. I seeks allies in the fight against evil and to guard the poor and the elderly."

Silver Crusade

This character was started a few years ago before the ranger pre-gen came out. I've been playing since 2008 when PFS started and GM a lot
so I have a bunch of characters.

Player's forum handle: Qstor
Character name: Harsk Hammerfist
PFS# 2072-9
Race/Class(es)/Level(s): Ranger 9
Faction: Silver Crusade
Any special rules, boons, or corner cases you need to let me know about:
None

"A few sentences about your character and his or her
previous adventures, both out of character and in character as your character would describe him or herself."

Harsk is a ranger from the wilds of Varsia. A dwarf dressed in a green cloak with a large dirty back pack on his back. A greataxe and a tea pot are clearly visible sticking out from the pack. A large badger springs out from behind him and growls out in alarm.

Quickly the dwarf grabs him on the scruff of the neck.

I imagine his voice sounds like Nick Nolte

"Hey furr ball quiet down. It's ok. He's trained. He won't bite unless I tell ya. I heard something about half orcs on Flintyreach.
I've met some good ones and some bad ones. Never been there myself. I'm not crazy about boats. But if we have to take one. Its fine with me.
Just rather have my feet on firm ground."

He points to his crossbow.

"I can still use this at creatures in the water that I can see. If we have to fight orcs. I know a thing or two about their weak points. Nice to meet everyone. I'm going to make some tea. Anyone want a cup? oh last adventure...Hmmm...I was up in the Worldwound tracking that bastard Thurl. Gives us dwarves in the Society a bad name. Luckily it all worked out and we got him. Used up all my cold iron bolts against those damm demons though."

Silver Crusade

Qstor wrote:

Is this full?

I posted 2 characters. I'd REALLY like to get in on this :)

GM Hmm is going to muster on Tuesday.

Sovereign Court

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Player's forum handle: Nefreet
Character name: Baroness Azara Emberkin (Picture)
PFS ID#: 66548-14
Race: Ifrit (w/ the "Fire in the Blood" alternate Racial Trait)
Class/Level: Swashbuckler (8)
Faction: Sovereign Court

Any special rules, boons, or corner cases you need to let me know about?

She's a highly mobile combatant that uses Spring Attack liberally (sometimes even attacking from an ally's square).
If she's attacked (and it's not her turn), she'll use the Dodging Panache deed.
If she's attacked (and it is her turn), she'll use the Opportune Parry and Riposte deed.
She has the Fortuitous enchantment on her main weapon, which is made of Viridium. As a Native Outsider, she's immune to its effects. I don't make enemies roll vs. Leprosy, but if I crit they must save vs. Greenblood Oil. The normal rules for poison apply, so if they're already poisoned then additional crits up the save DC by 2 and the duration by 50%.
She has all 3 gems from the 3 Bonekeeps, so she has "Resist Negative Energy 10", "+5 Resistance vs. [Death]", and "Whenever I fail a save vs. [Compulsion] I can attempt a new save at the end of my turn".
She uses a Swordmaster's Flair (blue scarf) to increase her reach.
She's always using Power Attack and is +1 to-hit on Attacks of Opportunity.

A few sentences about your character and her previous adventures, both in and out of character:

The temperature seems to warm a couple degrees as a robust female Ifrit enters the room. Decked in a polished Mithral Agile Breastplate, she wears both a Mithral Spiked Gauntlet and a Mithral Buckler on her left hand, leaving her right hand unhindered to wield the Scimitar made of a strange green glass that she keeps sheathed at her side. She wears a Wayfinder at her hip with what appears to be an Opalescent White Pyramid Ioun Stone inside, clearly identifying herself as a Pathfinder. The most striking accessory that she openly flaunts, however, hangs around her neck: a solid gold Unholy Symbol of Asmodeus.

"Greetings from the splendid city of Egorian" (she says in a sultry voice, her hand gesturing with a flourish as though she was holding a wine glass). "My name is Baroness Azara Emberkin, but you may call me..." (she pauses as she spies the Halflings in the room)... "'Baroness'. My apologies" (she doesn't seem sincere) "for attending this meeting dressed for battle. I've recently arrived from Fort Inevitable, bastion of law in the lawless land of the River Kingdoms. I've been assisting the Hellknights there in their... missionary work..." (her hand pats the scimitar at her side)... "and have led no less than three delves into the strange Emerald Spire. Fascinating place, really. Much more mystery than the Halls Under the Hill, I must say. And no accursed Ratfolk" (did she seriously just glance at the Halflings again?) "like those that swarm under the siege castles outside Absalom. Really, I do hope this mission involves a good party. Things just haven't been the same since Zarta's recent defection."

Began her career as part of the Cheliax Faction, but switched to Sovereign Court.
She's done 1 floor in Thornkeep, 3 floors in Emerald Spire, and all 3 Bonekeeps, despite her specializing in social skills.


Still looking


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The Fox wrote:
GM Hmm is going to muster on Tuesday.

The Fox is correct. I'm at a con this weekend. By the way, SkålCon made its fundraising goal. Our charity gets 2000 dollars and Jon Dehning will get shaved.

Just thought some of you might like that update!

Hmm

Sczarni

Ooh! That's a LOT of hair!

Might need to reapply oil to the blades halfway through.

Silver Crusade

Grats on meeting the goal!


By my count, only six players have submitted, and it's practically Tuesday. Since we've gotten no new submissions since Friday, I'm going use my discretion to close this early and take all six of you.

* THIS RECRUITMENT OFFICIALLY CLOSED *

Qstor, both your characters look fine (though the thought of someone loving Harsk enough to have built him into a real PC is so awesome that it earns bonus points. Besides, he seems to have more real personality.)

Although I'm leaning Harsk, does the party have a preference for which one Qstor brings to the mission?

Hmm

PS By tomorrow I will try to get the campaign, discussion and gameplay threads linked, and get this campaign listed with the other PFS PbP gameday IV games. I still have prep work left to do for this scenario, but it looks like we're solidly low-tier no matter which of Qstor's characters get picked. If any of you haven't read Painlord's guide to advanced play-by-post play, now is a great time for a refresher.

I leave you all to your discussion! Good night, and I'll see you Tuesday!

Silver Crusade

I have no preference either way. I am quite fond of Harsk and would love to see one built as a PC, but a life oracle might mean that Kiku can do things other than healbot. Either way, I'll be happy.

Silver Crusade

As much as I love Harsk, my preference would be for the Oracle. It would be a relief to finally be in a party of diplomats.

But, those are only my thoughts. Qstor has every right to play the character he wants to play. Even if we each get one vote in this matter, Qstor should get 7.


Hrothdane wrote:
I am quite fond of Harsk and would love to see one built as a PC, but a life oracle might mean that Kiku can do things other than healbot. Either way, I'll be happy.

I never pressure any healing-capable character to healbot unless that is their thing.

At SkålCon, I gmed for a delightful life oracle named Boris. He introduced himself to the table in a thick Russian accent:

"I am Boris from Ustalov. In Ustalov, we understand two things: blood and pain. I love them both. Give them to me."

When people got hurt, Boris would scream, "Yes! It hurts so GOOD! Yes!"

When our Mystic Theurge got hit for only 4 hp of damage, Boris looked at him and said, "You call that blood? You call that pain? Bah! Boris have no use for you!"

Clearly, for Boris, healbot was his thing. :)

Hmm

Sovereign Court

I like the look of the oracle as well.

Silver Crusade

GM Hmm wrote:
If any of you haven't read Painlord's guide to advanced play-by-post play, now is a great time for a refresher.

Linkified. And the guide it was based on.

Dark Archive

My preference would be for Harsk, but mostly so I can see the little badger rage out of its little mind. Skald work better the more bodies are in melee. But, Davina would help me stay standing if I stepped up to a melee role, so either way works out.

Silver Crusade

GM Hmm wrote:
Hrothdane wrote:
I am quite fond of Harsk and would love to see one built as a PC, but a life oracle might mean that Kiku can do things other than healbot. Either way, I'll be happy.

I never pressure any healing-capable character to healbot unless that is their thing.

At SkålCon, I gmed for a delightful life oracle named Boris. He introduced himself to the table in a thick Russian accent:

"I am Boris from Ustalov. In Ustalov, we understand two things: blood and pain. I love them both. Give them to me."

When people got hurt, Boris would scream, "Yes! It hurts so GOOD! Yes!"

When our Mystic Theurge got hit for only 4 hp of damage, Boris looked at him and said, "You call that blood? You call that pain? Bah! Boris have no use for you!"

Clearly, for Boris, healbot was his thing. :)

Hmm

Oh, I would rather do it if it's needed than not do it. It's one of the things I like about spiritualist over summoner tbh. It also helps make turns go fast (which I try to do in F2F to make up for essentially having 2 characters).

That is a pretty cool concept for a life oracle, though :D Sounds like a lot of fun to play with.

Silver Crusade

Grigorii wrote:
Skald work better the more bodies are in melee.

"I am unlikely to use your inspired rage. Apsu teaches peace and serenity. Rage is for the metallic dragons." Also, I like to be able to cast spells if I need to.

According to my calculations we have in the party a melee skirmisher (Azara), a melee tank (Juniper), a melee smasher/support (Grigorii), a skills monkey/secondary melee (Shel), divine support and melee striker (Kiku and Yojimbo). Plus whichever character Qstor brings. Juniper can also bring out some ranged striking if need be, but that's not her main shtick.

"I'm happy to adventure with anyone. Now let's talk tactics. I can't keep you from getting hit if you run way out in front..."

Scarab Sages

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Yojimbo crosses his arms, his orange eyes glowing at Juniper.

"I remain in front. Within 50 ft of Kiku."

He speaks with a degree of conviction that suggests he does not even consider the possibility of disagreement.

With mage armor and shield, he has 29 AC and DR 5/magic and slashing, so he can help tank. His damage is actually only just okay.

Silver Crusade

Yojimbo--Kiku's Phantom wrote:

Yojimbo crosses his arms, his orange eyes glowing at Juniper.

"I remain in front. Within 50 ft of Kiku."

He speaks with a degree of conviction that suggests he does not even consider the possibility of disagreement.

With mage armor and shield, he has 29 AC and DR 5/magic and slashing, so he can help tank. His damage is actually only just okay.

Juniper is okay being in either the first or second rank. Her AC will get well into the 40s at times, but she also doesn't deal damage (unless she switches to spell-casting, but that requires she take off her blindfold). She can boost your AC if she is adjacent to you, but that can be from the second rank. And she is happy to soak up attacks of opportunity if need be.

Scarab Sages

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"Um...Yojimbo, I think it would be best if you let Juniper take the lead."

Kiku bows to Juniper.

"My sincerest apologies. Yojimbo is curt. It is my fault for not teaching him better manners."

Juniper should totally go first :)

Silver Crusade

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"I understand. Don't worry," Juniper turns to walk toward the front, "you are all now quite safe under my protecti—OOMPH-GAH!" she trips again on her much-too-long cloak and falls on her face. "I don't know why that keeps happening."

If there is only one other character up front, Juniper can boost his/her AC by up to +7. Alternatively she can boost the AC of everyone adjacent to her by +4. So I'm happy to have help tanking.


Okay, I've opened up gameplay so that you all can either roleplay your introductions, or at the very least dot-and-delete.

Dot-and-delete: If you can't think of anything to say right away, post as your character in gameplay, then delete your post until you can have a chance to compose something. This will put this game in your campaigns tab where you can easily spot updates.

I've also opened up discussion so that all of you can geek out over battle tactics. I still have lots to do prepwise, but I figure that I can at least provide you with a corner booth at the Whale Belly and some excellent beverages while I do so.

Hmm

PS Qstor, it sounds like the consensus is leaning towards your life oracle, but you have final choice here. Which would you like to play more?

Liberty's Edge

Harsk :)

The oracle doesn't have selective channel and was built more for season 5 to fight demons.

Sovereign Court

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Juniper Berrythwaite wrote:
"I'm happy to adventure with anyone. Now let's talk tactics. I can't keep you from getting hit if you run way out in front..."

"Well then, my little darling, it looks like you're going to have to keep up.

For starters, let's discuss proper fashion..."

*Azara tap-tap-taps the section of Juniper's oversized cloak that drags on the ground*

Azara doesn't usually stand still, so a lot of the buffs you hand out normally wouldn't help her, but given that dynamic action in a PbP sounds like it'd slow things down I'm totally fine playing her as a regular full attacking Fighter if need be.

Her AC is 28 normally (+8 Armor, +5 Dex, +2 Shield, +3 Dodge). If you boost it by +7 then that's higher than anything she could parry. Even if you give her +4 that's still almost as good.

Just realized I don't have my sheet with me, and I have to be on campus until 10pm tonight, but I'll post more when I get home.

Scarab Sages

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Oh my god. I wish my sorceress Avelina was free to play with Azara. She's a bit of a Mean Girl, too ;)


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At SkålCon, I gmed for a delightful life oracle named Boris. He introduced himself to the table in a thick Russian accent:

"I am Boris from Ustalov. In Ustalov, we understand two things: blood and pain. I love them both. Give them to me."

When people got hurt, Boris would scream, "Yes! It hurts so GOOD! Yes!"

When our Mystic Theurge got hit for only 4 hp of damage, Boris looked at him and said, "You call that blood? You call that pain? Bah! Boris have no use for you!"

Clearly, for Boris, healbot was his thing. :)

Hmm

Lol i remember that. The room went a little quiet the first time that happened. Also still have room?

Sczarni

We have 6 already.


Vahanian, nice to see you again! I'm sorry but Nefreet is correct. I closed recruitment for this one already.

Hmm

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