Cottonseed PFS PbP (2E)

Game Master Redelia

Quick check:

For the playest (w/ Animist and Exemplar), one could run a regular scenario (ex: #1-06 "Lost on the Spirit Road") and be PFS compliant?

quoting the OPO discord announcement in case these links/resources weren't posted earlier

The War of Immortals class playtest for Pathfinder 2 begins now! From now until October 2nd, test out the new Animist and Exemplar classes in Pathfinder Society.

Playtest documents: http://www.pathfinderplaytest.com/
Blog post: https://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6sie7?Welcome-to-the-War-of-Immort als-Playtest
Rules governing play in PFS2: https://www.organizedplayfoundation.org/Lorespire/pfs2guide._.Playtest-Rule s
Note that the Exemplar, despite being a Rare class, is fully available to all PFS2 players during this playtest, and most important of all GMs must opt-in for playtest characters to be used at their tables. Please make sure that you consult the GM prior to game!

Other useful resources
Foundry module: https://foundryvtt.com/packages/pf2e-playtest-data
Pathfinder Nexus character creator (free to build playtest classes): https://resources.demiplane.com/nexus/pathfinder/war-of-immortals-class-pla ytest

But to answer your question, if a GM opts into allowing the playtest, and the PC is built using the rules from the guide, then yeah that all checks out.

Specifically for PbP, when Tyranius was VC he had asked about whether or not PbP games needed to be completed by the end of the playtest period. At the time the answer was that you could run the game at your normal pace and still get credit, just make sure the playtest surveys are filled out before the end of the playtest period so your feedback reaches the devs.

Thanks redeux!

War of Immortals @ Lost on Spirit Road recruitment!

Howdy folks! Alex Speidel just posed an interesting series of questions to the Organized Play community on how to recruit & keep GMs. I encourage people to go check it out and share any tips, tricks, information, etc. that might be useful to our organizers and each other! :)

Hello!

I am looking to transfer "ownership" of THIS campaign to THIS player. How can I go about doing that?

=)

In the past I emailed customer service (listed at bottom of every web page). I don't think there is any other way

Hello!

I am looking to transfer "ownership" of THIS campaign to THIS player. How can I go about doing that?

=)

Yep. email customer service. takes a few days for it to go through but it's pretty painless.

It will definitely be painless if you format it as clearly as you did in your post here, with links and stuff. If you're unclear in your request, or if they have to go hunting for links, there could be a little back and forth.

I don't know if it helped, but the last time I had to request this, I made a post in the threads I linked. I was the person to whom the campaign was being transferred, mentionning that I consented to take over the campaign.

I don't know if it helped, but the last time I had to request this, I made a post in the threads I linked. I was the person to whom the campaign was being transferred, mentionning that I consented to take over the campaign.

@ Frost ^^^

Thanks all! My dad is stable, thankfully. I'm going to start catching up now -- it was really the overnight that's a real doozy. And doing all the BB Code isn't much fun on a tablet...

Take care, family comes first!!!

Greetings fine Pathfinders. I'm new to Pathfinder and the Pathfinder Society. I think I've got most of the basics down regarding PFS and PbP play, but I have a question regarding tying a character to the Society. Is there anything specific that I as a player need to do (other than register for a organized play number)? Or is it a simple as "Character just finished his training at the Grand Lodge and is ready for assignments"?

Thanks in advance.

If your character is using any options that require a Boon, you have to buy it from the boon shop. You get 80 points to start out with, so it is an option for your first character if you want one.

Other than that, not really. Your PFS characters are aliases you can use in the forums here (check the dropdown below the text box when writing a post to switch aliases). To play pbp on the forums, standard practice is to include your character sheet and other information in the character's profile. Most people don't put anything in the profile if they're not doing pbp here.

Make sure to create a PFS character, not just a generic forum alias.

Greetings fine Pathfinders. I'm new to Pathfinder and the Pathfinder Society. I think I've got most of the basics down regarding PFS and PbP play, but I have a question regarding tying a character to the Society. Is there anything specific that I as a player need to do (other than register for a organized play number)? Or is it a simple as "Character just finished his training at the Grand Lodge and is ready for assignments"?

Thanks in advance.

Welcome and well met.

Thank you all for your help. My character has a character number and I'm excited to play. I'm mostly waiting for the finances to buy the sourcebooks with my character's options. Does Paizo have any regular sales or is the ~$20 pdf generally the most affordable it gets?

You can play with CRB (and a couple of other books) without owning. The rest do need to be owned.

I have seen sales fairly regularly, but it is hard to predict.

By the way, >Archives of Nethys< has all of the rules online, just in case you need a quick reference.

You'll still need a proof of purchase for PFS (as Corabee Cori said.)

If you're good with PDFs, keep an eye out for Humble Bundle - sometimes they sell Pathfinder PDF collections.

Strongly Agree on the Humble Bundles. They are a great way to pick up content/books at a discounted price AND support charity.

The Paizo sales I have seen tend to be clustered around major conventions like PaizoCon at the end of May and GENCON in early August. They do pop up at other times though.

If you're looking at purchasing the Core Rulebook or other core-ish books (Advanced Players' Guide, Gamemastery Guide, or Bestiary), be aware that the Remaster project is ongoing and going to start releasing soon.

You may wish to hold off and purchase Player Core, which replaces the CRB, instead.

If you're looking at purchasing the Core Rulebook or other core-ish books (Advanced Players' Guide, Gamemastery Guide, or Bestiary), be aware that the Remaster project is ongoing and going to start releasing soon.

You may wish to hold off and purchase Player Core, which replaces the CRB, instead.

Yeah we're less than 8 weeks before the Pathfinder Player Core is released. Unless you manage to find a good deal on a second hand core rulebook or a humble bundle I'd wait and get the player core PDF in November.

anyone starting a low level adventure (or 2)? I have a pair of magi (or maguses) I'd like to test drive (one's lvl 2, the other is a lvl 1 starlight span gunslinger conversion)...

I was planning on offering 2-03 Catastrophe's Spark, which is 1-4. Since you do so much GMing around here, GM Tiger, if I want, I will save you a spot.

Sadly, I have played that one. I'm also leaving on a business trip in 2 days (9 Oct to 13 Oct) so I'm a bit distracted ATM :)

Year of Unfettered Exploration? I haven't GMed that one yet.

Or there's some early 1-4's as well I haven't GMed i.e.
1-04 Bandits of Immemwood
1-05 Trailblazer's Bounty
1-15 The Blooming Catastrophe
1-18 Lodge of the Living God
1-22 Doom of Cassomir
2-04 Path of Kings
2-09 The Seven Secrets of Dacilane Academy
2-13 A Guilded Test
2-19 Enter the Pallid Peak
3-10 Delve the Pallid Depths

From recruitment

GM Watery Soup wrote:

2. Regarding the boon, meh. It's been a while since I've played a game (convention or not) where we didn't have enough GM glyphs to cover the table, although I'll admit I play in a GM-rich (and author-rich) region. I played this with my -2001 and I haven't used it in 7+ levels. *shrug*

I don't see anything on the boon that says you can't use it along side the GM glyph hero point. You can have a maximum of 3. Is there a post I missed that says you can't have both?

The org play guide only places a restriction on the max number of hero points gained through GM glyphs. You can still get additional hero points through other things like the boon in question or campaign coins. For example in Paizocon 2020 I played 1-20 with a group of 6 that ended up with 17 hero points at the start due to gm glyphs/boons/campaign coins.

For example in Paizocon 2020 I played 1-20 with a group of 6 that ended up with 17 hero points at the start due to gm glyphs/boons/campaign coins.

I'm assuming that there is still the game rule limit of 3 hero points maximum at one time for any particular character.

Correct. The org play guide doesn't change that game rule.

how does one provide proof of purchase when it is required?

Direct answer: You can log in to Paizo.com to show your digital products, and bring a receipt for physical products.

More practical answer: I have never been asked to do either, and have never asked to do either, in several dozen games played and several dozen games GMed. The only scenario in which I can imagine going through that level of auditing is if a player were openly bragging about deliberately flouting the rules, or openly advocating stealing. Paizo's not a giant corporation, and they're one of the few companies worth supporting.

I vaguely remember something asking for a code that was printed on one of the last pages of the PFS scenario's .pdf. I don't remember if it was Paizo's PFS game reporting page or RPGChronicles. I've only reported one game so far.

As for player options and owning the rulebook that an item, spell, or feat comes from, I think all you need is the .pdf with your name watermark on it. And like Watery Soup said, it generally is just honor code verified rather than having someone ask for proof.

how does one provide proof of purchase when it is required?

If you've bought the PDFs at the Paizo store, you can just take a screenshot of your downloads page.

RPG Chronicles asks for a confirmation code before it lets you generate the chronicle sheets. It uses a 4 Character code printed on the Chronicle sheet in the scenario to confirm you own the scenario. The code is labelled "Chronicle Code:" on the one I looked at, and it is at the bottom of the page.

PDFs you purchase from the Paizo store are also watermarked. Look closely at the top and bottom of the pages in the PDF.

The ownership rules and what qualifies as proof of ownership can be found under the character options page. See "using options from other sources" which details the different methods that qualify as proof of ownership.

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RE: PFS scenarios.

Lets not get too worried about PFS scenarios. I'm going to point out the absence of a rule here, and it is very intentional-- There is no requirement to own pfs scenarios in the guide or character options page (this is because many physical locations the scenarios are owned by the store, and loaned out to GM's). Obviously you'll need to have access to the scenario to run it, and for online that would mean buying it. But it isn't something anyone is going to audit you on.

Thank you for your replies.

In terms of showing proof of ownership, I've never been asked to show proof; nor have I audited anyone... Well, I only audited someone because the player dared me to audit him (it was to show some proof that he had access to an uncommon race at that time)... ;)

I have been involved in an in person game where all the people at the table were audited.

This was done because one of the players had been previously warned that he needed to own the sources. Rather than pick him out, the whole table was asked to show proof. The audit came from the local VL.

Please just don’t use resources you don’t own.

Rather than pick him out, the whole table was asked to show proof.

The cost-benefit of this is dubious to me.

I don't carry around proof of purchase of my physical books, and while all my electronic purchases are easily accessible, I would probably demonstrate that I've purchased several hundred dollars worth of APs/Adventures/PFS scenarios/PF1 material (along with a few rulebooks that I have dual physical/electronic), and if they were satisfied that I probably owned all the physical rulebooks I say I do, I would then leave the table for wasting my time. I didn't make the trek to my local FLGS just to do accounting.

If I got some of the access rules wrong, I'd agree not to use any contested items/options, and to stay after the session to clear it up one-on-one.

GM Bret wrote:

Rather than pick him out, the whole table was asked to show proof.

The cost-benefit of this is dubious to me.

The person had been talked to several times before the incident. They failed to purchase the materials after the talk, at least twice promising to do so the next day. They originally got detected when there was a question by a GM about something they were using and were unable to provide the reference.

The rules require that players own the resources. Don’t force someone to check if you are following that rule.

I’ve had to audit online for a very niche reason.

However, in person, you simply need to book or a photocopy of the relevant pages. You don’t actually need your receipts. If you’re not bring your book and using Archives of Nethys, you should probably keep a proof of purchase with your chronicles for the non-Core stuff you’re using.

EDIT: …and be sure about your internet access at the venue.

EDIT EDIT: The point of it all is that the GM is not responsible for memorizing all of the options and the rules that go with it. The player is responsible for providing the source material and proof that it is sanctioned for use.

The person had been talked to several times before the incident.

This is an even stronger case for approaching the player individually and privately, then, rather than subjecting the entire table to a public audit.

I assume the previous talks were individual and private. Another private talk clearly was not going to work.

The point of it all is that the GM is not responsible for memorizing all of the options and the rules that go with it.

This is a separate issue from ...

you should probably keep a proof of purchase with your chronicles for the non-Core stuff you’re using.

... this.

It is absolutely within normal social boundaries, and it's not at all offensive, for a GM to ask how an uncommon (lowercase u) feat works, or to see the text of a boon that they've never encountered. It's an in-game issue. But proof of purchase isn't about that at all, it's an out-of-game issue, and the beneficiary of the policy isn't the person asking (GM or VO), it's Paizo, so it's a weird request.

While I'm in favor of supporting Paizo, and definitely could submit screenshots, or log in in front of the GM/VO, or dig up receipts or credit card statements to prove I've spent the money, I'm still going to take offense at being asked, and probably walk away, even after I provide the requested evidence.

The exceptions would be akin to "probable cause" level in police work. Being repeatedly warned warrants an audit. Openly bragging about flouting the rules warrants an audit.

Being at the same table as someone who triggers probable cause is not probable cause.

Being caught with an unauthorized feat doesn't, either. If someone at my table had a Rare option, I'd start off by explaining the rules, and asking them to change their character or make the requisite financial purchases. I'd assume they were a new player and/or unaware of the rules and/or misinterpreted the rules. And if they have to be repeatedly warned, then they can suffer through an audit for being repeatedly warned.

I assume the previous talks were individual and private. Another private talk clearly was not going to work.

Then boot them.

There's no point in subjecting the rest of the table to the audit.

Oh there are plenty of points to it. Just not ones you value, it appears.

GM Blake wrote:

The point of it all is that the GM is not responsible for memorizing all of the options and the rules that go with it.

This is a separate issue from ...

GM Blake wrote:

you should probably keep a proof of purchase with your chronicles for the non-Core stuff you’re using.

... this.

You know it’s not kosher to cut off a quote in a way that fundamentally changes the meaning, right?

If you’re not bring your book and using Archives of Nethys, you should probably keep a proof of purchase with your chronicles for the non-Core stuff you’re using.

Oh there are plenty of points to it. Just not ones you value, it appears.

Correct. And I believe, outside a small group of regulars, most of the player pool.

If you’re not bring your book and using Archives of Nethys, you should probably keep a proof of purchase with your chronicles for the non-Core stuff you’re using.

Thinking people are going to bring their physical books is even less reasonable than asking them for proof of purchase. I omitted it because I figured "bring your books or proof of purchase" meant "bring proof of purchase". I mean, I don't even have all the Lost Omen books (just the rulebooks and AG/CG/GB, maybe one other), and they collectively can't fit in a backpack. They may not even fit in 2, and they probably collectively weigh 50+ pounds.

Honestly, it is incredibly rare. I played PFS since the beginning. I think I was asked to show proof of ownership once, and that is because we were at a table of mostly new players and the GM wanted to use me as a demonstration of how it is supposed to work.

But that's why I only buy pdfs. Saves paper and easier to prove ownership.

Yep, I would bring all my PDFs loaded on my tablet. Sometimes even my phone!

I'm planning to take the plunge and start GMing here in a few weeks. I've enjoyed the games I have played so far (thanks to some great GMs and fellow players) and would like to contribute back. I'll start with Q15: In the Footsteps of Horror and be running the low tier.

Looking back I've seen a few other people have started with an experienced GM playing at the table and mentoring them. Would anyone be interested in doing that?

I always take all my physical books for my characters. If it takes more than 2 or 3 books for you to make a character, your character is too complex.

I also don't buy the PDF's because it is much easier for me to find things in physical books (and to read them from cover to cover) than in PDF's and I have yet to find a (free) PDF viewer on a tablet that could have more than one PDF open at a time.