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Do any of the mythic paths impact companions granted from your class (animal companion, undead companion, construct companion) and are they limited to a specific kind of companion?
Apocalypse Rider has a lot about their mount. Doesn't have to be a horse, just an animal with the mount trait.
Beast Lord is all about your animal companion. It is basically Beastmaster on steroids.
Is the exemplar multiclass dedication really a warcrime against game balance? (Full ikon from the dedication, no rarity tag, only 12 dex or strength prereq, no limitation on just leaving the immanence permanently if you don't want to burn the action to restore your spark after transcending - an issue that goes away at level 12 when you can get a second ikon.)
Sounds like psychic archetype, but for martials, and much worse.
It requires +2 which is the equivalent of a 14, but yes you get an ikon from it.
Is there better support for ranged Exemplars than there was in the playtest? The playtest exemplar had the issue that while there was a lot of fun stuff in the weapon ikon the body and worn ikons mostly didn't apply very well to a ranged character (since either they didn't work with a ranged weapon, or they only applied to things you mostly avoid by being a ranged character.)
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Is there better support for ranged Exemplars than there was in the playtest? The playtest exemplar had the issue that while there was a lot of fun stuff in the weapon ikon the body and worn ikons mostly didn't apply very well to a ranged character (since either they didn't work with a ranged weapon, or they only applied to things you mostly avoid by being a ranged character.)
Hard to say at a cursory glance, but given that the restriction of having one of each type of Ikon is now gone, it lends to MANY more combinations. I still see a lot more for melee characters (Fetching Bangles is ridiculous!). However, many grant bonuses or abilities that really don't care if you are melee or ranged.
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What's the deal with the Broken Chain? Some sort of mythic escape artist or freedom fighter? Also, did you notice anything interesting with the Vindicator?
Broken Chain - They are freedom fighters and what I imagine Cayden Cailean was before becoming a god. The Swashbuckler iconic is the artwork for this path.
Vindicator is, itself, interesting. Vindication Edge gives a +1 status bonus to spell attack rolls against your hunted prey and they get -1 to their saving throws against you. What's disappointing is there is no 4th level Vindicator feat. Though I LOVE the 8th level feat of Disrupt Opposed Magic. It gives a reaction that can be used within your first range increment if you are wielding a ranged weapon (has to be your deity's favored weapon though). If an enemy casts a spell, you get to make a Strike and on a regular success, the spell is disrupted. Also works with Melee weapons.
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So... we've seen the post blog some time back showed off the Avenger, Vindicator, and Bloodrager, but the product description says they are a total of five class archetypes, could we get maybe the names and base classes of the other two?
Avenger - Rogue
Bloodrager - BarbarianSeneschal - Witch
Vindicator - Ranger
Warrior of Legend - Fighter
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Not sure if I was crazy, but I thought there was a new weapon ikon for shields? Or is the old Palisade Bangles (Worn) redone?
From a discord I’m on by someone with the pdf: “Mirrored Aegis is a new shield ikon that grants a +1 status bonus ac to you and all allies in a 15ft aura, and the shield is restored to full HP if the ikon resides within for 10 minutes, the Transcendance has you raise the mirror aegis, granting you and 1 ally minute long +1 status bonus to AC, Reflex saves, and any save against a force/spirit/vitality/void effect”
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The immanence looks identical to the Palisade Bangles. Were the Bangles scrapped/redone as the shield?Not sure if I was crazy, but I thought there was a new weapon ikon for shields? Or is the old Palisade Bangles (Worn) redone?From a discord I’m on by someone with the pdf: “Mirrored Aegis is a new shield ikon that grants a +1 status bonus ac to you and all allies in a 15ft aura, and the shield is restored to full HP if the ikon resides within for 10 minutes, the Transcendance has you raise the mirror aegis, granting you and 1 ally minute long +1 status bonus to AC, Reflex saves, and any save against a force/spirit/vitality/void effect”
Bangles are now "Fetching Bangles" which creates a 10-foot aura that causes a will save to any enemy that tries to move away and on a failure, their move is disrupted. Transcendent lets you choose an enemy within 20 feet causing a will save or they are pulled adjacent to you.
Seems the playtest repurposed the Palisade into the shield.
May we get some more information about the Bookkeeper's and Sage's Callings?
May I inquire about the Wildspell?
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Is the exemplar multiclass dedication really a warcrime against game balance? (Full ikon from the dedication, no rarity tag, only 12 dex or strength prereq, no limitation on just leaving the immanence permanently if you don't want to burn the action to restore your spark after transcending - an issue that goes away at level 12 when you can get a second ikon.)
Sounds like psychic archetype, but for martials, and much worse.
At least that part has been corrected. The dedication is Rare, just like the class.
You can see the clarification in the Alternate Mythic Rules found on the War of Immortals product site.
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Is the exemplar multiclass dedication really a warcrime against game balance? (Full ikon from the dedication, no rarity tag, only 12 dex or strength prereq, no limitation on just leaving the immanence permanently if you don't want to burn the action to restore your spark after transcending - an issue that goes away at level 12 when you can get a second ikon.)
Sounds like psychic archetype, but for martials, and much worse.
At least that part has been corrected. The dedication is Rare, just like the class.
You can see the clarification in the Alternate Mythic Rules found on the War of Immortals product site.
Where is that PDF from? It also has “copyright 2025” listed on a few pages…so perhaps it is…from the future?
So... we've seen the post blog some time back showed off the Avenger, Vindicator, and Bloodrager, but the product description says they are a total of five class archetypes, could we get maybe the names and base classes of the other two?Avenger - Rogue
Bloodrager - Barbarian
Seneschal - Witch
Vindicator - Ranger
Warrior of Legend - Fighter
Thanks for all your work Invictus Fatum.
Can you describe the Seneschal and Warrior of Legend?
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Where is that PDF from? It also has “copyright 2025” listed on a few pages…so perhaps it is…from the future?Is the exemplar multiclass dedication really a warcrime against game balance? (Full ikon from the dedication, no rarity tag, only 12 dex or strength prereq, no limitation on just leaving the immanence permanently if you don't want to burn the action to restore your spark after transcending - an issue that goes away at level 12 when you can get a second ikon.)
Sounds like psychic archetype, but for martials, and much worse.
At least that part has been corrected. The dedication is Rare, just like the class.
You can see the clarification in the Alternate Mythic Rules found on the War of Immortals product site.
On the War of Immortals product page.
Where is that PDF from? It also has “copyright 2025” listed on a few pages…so perhaps it is…from the future?Is the exemplar multiclass dedication really a warcrime against game balance? (Full ikon from the dedication, no rarity tag, only 12 dex or strength prereq, no limitation on just leaving the immanence permanently if you don't want to burn the action to restore your spark after transcending - an issue that goes away at level 12 when you can get a second ikon.)
Sounds like psychic archetype, but for martials, and much worse.
At least that part has been corrected. The dedication is Rare, just like the class.
You can see the clarification in the Alternate Mythic Rules found on the War of Immortals product site.
War of Immortals product page, as I mentioned.
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Any regular Archetype ? (Not Class or Multiclass or Mythic)
No, but the book suggests that PCs are welcome to treat the epic destinies as normal high level archetypes in nonmythic games, and tells you to ignore or remove the feats that require you to use mythic points for their effects (each seems to have been given enough non-mythic-point-feat-options to facilitate that.)
It looks balanced enough to actually do that to me.
Where is that PDF from? It also has “copyright 2025” listed on a few pages…so perhaps it is…from the future?Is the exemplar multiclass dedication really a warcrime against game balance? (Full ikon from the dedication, no rarity tag, only 12 dex or strength prereq, no limitation on just leaving the immanence permanently if you don't want to burn the action to restore your spark after transcending - an issue that goes away at level 12 when you can get a second ikon.)
Sounds like psychic archetype, but for martials, and much worse.
At least that part has been corrected. The dedication is Rare, just like the class.
You can see the clarification in the Alternate Mythic Rules found on the War of Immortals product site.
It's from the War of Immortals product page.
Oh! I forgot.
Nephalim stuff, how much are new verus how much is reprints from ancestry guide?I'm sorry, I don't have the energy to compare to my Ancestry Guide. But they have lvl 1 feats for:
Aeonbound
Battleblooded
Faultspawn
ProteankinThey make reference in the text to Aphorites, Kjosas, Asuras & Ganzis
The Kjo-what now?
Never heard of those before :O
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Kjosas are the new name for valkyrie and einherjar descended nephilim, which were premaster were considered a type of Ganzi.
Kjosas are the new name for valkyrie and einherjar descended nephilim, which were premaster were considered a type of Ganzi.
Oh I see...
Then the... "Asurablooded" doesn't have a new name?
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Any more lore on the Godsrain that we didn't know about? Effects of Gorum's death, other dieties who died?
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Any more lore on the Godsrain that we didn't know about? Effects of Gorum's death, other dieties who died?
Not sure, but I read the player's guide for 'Triumph of the Tusk' which confirms the Orcish pantheon has experienced a recent shake up in the form of dead Orc heroes kicking the butt of and then taking the jobs from existing Orc Deities.
And while it's only relevant to Starfinder 2e, Shelyn and Zon-Kuthon merged into one deity in order to exile Nyarlathotep from reality.
Also... can someone explain this:
Is the exemplar multiclass dedication really a warcrime against game balance? (Full ikon from the dedication, no rarity tag, only 12 dex or strength prereq, no limitation on just leaving the immanence permanently if you don't want to burn the action to restore your spark after transcending - an issue that goes away at level 12 when you can get a second ikon.)
Sounds like psychic archetype, but for martials, and much worse.
Because I have zero idea what they're talking about. Psychic requires 14 in Charisma/Intelligence, and I'm not seeing what about it would be so game breaking. Or is Xenocrat referring to a pre-errata version of the Multi-Class Archetype?
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From what I've seen on reddit and other sources, the examplar dedication gives you a full-powered ikon, including its active and passive ability. You can just grab the dedication, say your weapon is now an ikon and get a permanent passive +2 damage per weapon damage die. Or you get a 15 ft aura that provied you and allies with a +1 status bonus to attacks. You know, like that level 16 cleric feat? Or an aura that grants you and all allies a +1 circumstance bonus to AC which specifically stacks with the armor bonus provided by a shield.
Don't have the book yet myself, so this is mostly hearsay and second hand information.
EDIT: Added a link to the reddit topic in question.
Warrior of Legend? Heh, I wonder how those Fighters fare...
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Can anyone post some info on the Avenger Archetype?
Avenger
- Rogue Class Archetype- Choose a god to follow
- It is referred to as the Avenger Racket
- You are trained in your deity's favored weapon and that scales with your other weapon proficiency
- You can do sneak attack with your gods favored weapon (using this weapon is highly encouraged by the feat choice as well). So worshipers of Ashukharma and Szuriel can, for example, sneak attack with a Greatsword
- Dedication gives +1 to saves vs. divine spells and effects that do spirit damage as well as the ability to use Religion to Coerce, Gather Info, or Track as long as the city has a church dedicated to your god in it.
- My favorite feat is lvl 8 that lets you make an attach as a reaction to anybody casting a spell and if that attach hits, it disrupts the spell. The only requirement is it is your deity's favored weapon, so if it can be thrown or is ranged, it works too (as long as it is within your range increment).
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What's something not teased in pre-release material that caught your eye?There's a neat rogue/fighter/ranger stance in the Avenger section (but not limited to avengers) that lets you make d4 bludgeoning agile/finesse attacks with the haft of a two-handed hammer/polearm/spear and use feats that require you to be wielding two weapons. More importantly, while in the stance you're considered to be dual wielding the two instead of using a two hander.
D4 agile is weak, but the other half is whatever hammer/polearm/spear you picked and it's just kind of a cool alternative way to build a two-weapon character.
I low-key love this because that's a real-life fighting style that could not have been replicated previously.
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I low-key love this because that's a real-life fighting style that could not have been replicated previously.What's something not teased in pre-release material that caught your eye?There's a neat rogue/fighter/ranger stance in the Avenger section (but not limited to avengers) that lets you make d4 bludgeoning agile/finesse attacks with the haft of a two-handed hammer/polearm/spear and use feats that require you to be wielding two weapons. More importantly, while in the stance you're considered to be dual wielding the two instead of using a two hander.
D4 agile is weak, but the other half is whatever hammer/polearm/spear you picked and it's just kind of a cool alternative way to build a two-weapon character.
Me too! I've wanted something like this for a while, but the only way you could do it previously required you to be a Knight Reclaimant (Hilt Hammer, specifically). Now at least you can access it by being one of the three classes in question or multiclassing into them!
What is your favorite piece of art from the book, and what does it look like?