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Tunu40 wrote:

Not sure if I was crazy, but I thought there was a new weapon ikon for shields? Or is the old Palisade Bangles (Worn) redone?

From a discord I’m on by someone with the pdf: “Mirrored Aegis is a new shield ikon that grants a +1 status bonus ac to you and all allies in a 15ft aura, and the shield is restored to full HP if the ikon resides within for 10 minutes, the Transcendance has you raise the mirror aegis, granting you and 1 ally minute long +1 status bonus to AC, Reflex saves, and any save against a force/spirit/vitality/void effect”

The immanence looks identical to the Palisade Bangles. Were the Bangles scrapped/redone as the shield?

The guy answering the AMA thread right now said the only new heritages are Aeonbound, Battleblooded, Faultspawn and Proteankin. So Aphorites became Aeonbound, Ganzi became Proteankin and Battleblooded and Faultspawn was given a remastered version. To be completely honest, I didn't expect any completely new lineages, but to not even get all the older ones from the Ancestry Guide is kind of a letdown.

At least battleblooded was expanded from two feats on the ganzi ancestry feat list to being a propper lineage with three exclusive feats. Which is a little improvement. I doubt the same can be said for the proteankin ganzi and aphorites, who had full ancestry feat lists before.

Unless the geniekin ancestries get grouped into nephilim, I wouldn't expect the scions of a more inner plane to fall under that umbrella. It feels like nephilim are a "demons and angels" outer sphere type heritage where demi-fae "changelings" of a sort feel like they should belong to a distinct category unless every extraplanar bloodline is considered nephilim.

I believe this is indeed the route they are taking. They defined nephilims as people whose nature is influenced by celestials, fiends, or monitors. Even when there were no monitor lineages, so they were already thinking about future content. I do believe nephilim will remain as people touched by the outer planes. Fey and spirits (like Oni and Rakshasa as mentioned by Ezekieru) should be their own heritages. Even the Coatl, mentioned on this thread earlier, as a beast with no clear ties to the outer planes, may fall outside of the nephilim umbrella.

Re-reading the entry of the nephilims on the player core, they do treat Ganzi and Aphorite as akin to Cambion and Empyrean, in the sense that they are umbrella terms (empyrean being nephilim with celestial/good aligned lineage, cambions being nephilim with fiendish/evil aligned lineage, which would make gazi nephilim with a chaotic neutral lineage and aphorite nephilim with a lawful neutral lineage). Makes me wonder if the protean descend ganzi will receive a particular name (like the valkyrie/einherji ganzi became "battle-blooded") or if they will remain just "ganzi", since many ganzi feats focused more on the protean side anyway.

Wonder if they will bring over Beastbrood, Faultspawn, Riftmarked, Shackleborn, Emberkin, Idyllkin and Plumekith. Basically all of the lineages from the Ancestry Guide. While Battle-blooded is new as a lineage, it kinda already existed under Ganzi in the form of two ancestry feats, one for einherji descended ("Glory and Valor!") and one for Valkyrie descended ("Arise, Ye Worthy!"), both also from ancestry guide. I wonder how much of the nephilim feats will just be bringing all that to the remaster. While not exactly new, it would be very good to have those lineages and feats officially brought to the remaster. If we include all those tiefling and aasimar lineages from the ancestry guide, ganzi divided into two lineages (The protean descended and de valkyrie/einherji descended) and aphorites we are already talking about 10 new lineages.

Thanks for the quick answer Squark and Xenocrat! =D

I believe Valkyrie/Einherjar descended is one of the confirmed lineages.

Oh that's amazing! Do you know where was this confirmed? I have a character that I am playing that I play as a Ganzi specifically for access to the valkyrie/einherjar feats in the future. Still level one, and using the playtest exemplar as a class so it will be updated anyway when War of Immortals is released so I look forward to maybe update it's heritage too.