KenpoGMBrian wrote:
I believe the intention is for masks to possibly become more powerful in the following ways: 1. By finding the Magical masks you are talking about as loot, and letting Teacher Ot transfer its powers to the players' own masks. This is what is described in book 1 chapter 3 at the places where such treasure is found (in the tunnels near Stone Ghost's lair).2. By choosing mask-related feats in the Magaambyan attendant archetype which is gained through the study system. The Magic Warrior archetype could also be chosen but is not granted for free. So I don't think masks are supposed to do anything right after the masking ceremony. They just replace the beads in a more powerful way roleplay-wise, not mechanically. That said, other people have indeed incorporated the Relic subsystem from the GMG for these masks, which I believe would also work fine if the players are okay with having more options.
For those who mentioned that PF2 should have been more flexible with for example using int with a Religion check to recall knowledge about undead, this is already in the rules: "If the GM deems it appropriate for a certain situation, however, they might have you use a different ability modifier for a skill check or when determining your skill DC." (Source) For some reason it just never happens in practice, I haven't seen any PF2 GM make use of this rule and as a GM I never use it myself. Maybe I should, but then I think players will expect to always be able to swap their ability modifiers.
The ideal scenario to me would be where a better version of the current Alchemist is some kind of generalist subclass, while the other subclasses are better at their own niche but worse at doing other stuff. A bit similar to the wizard schools, with one universalist school. I wouldn't even mind if the general subclass would be the best one mechanically, as long as bombers are good at throwing bombs all the time and mutagens can fulfill the Hulk or Jekyll and Hide fantasy. Make them more noob-friendly, not punish bombers for throwing bombs and doing what the Fumbus image suggests you should be doing.
I use recall knowledge on NPCs all the time, though mostly out of combat. Have been doing this since PF1. I roughly know what an NPC knows about the main plot mostly, but that's about it. There are infinitely many unforeseen situations while roleplaying so that I could not imagine NOT rolling dice to determine what an NPC knows. 'I ask the bartender what he knows about the barbarian king' <GM rolls dice, crit fails> 'The bartender has heard rumours that the barbarian king can turn into a dragon' 'I tell the fruit merchant in a subtle way that I know the fish merchant is using false weights' <GM rolls dice, crit success, PC rolls diplomacy, crit success> 'It seems that she already knew that, but she is impressed by your gossip and trusts you a lot more'
And here is some information on the new teachers (partly thanks to u/stoneofthewise): Xhosiliawa. A kobold, and Xhokan's sister. She looks a bit down on Xhokan and has the opposite personality, valuing freedom and chaos, also in her teaching. She pretends to be of high social class (wearing flamboyant clothes) and is very ambitious, and hopes to become head of the Magaambya some day. Varashod. An android who specializes in the body and soul of humanoids. As quite the emotionless teacher, it has no qualms disecting animals (or even humanoids if the school would allow it) and uses illusions of humanoid bodies to teach what is inside, physically and spiritually. It has an amazing grasp of humanoid life and experiences but does not experience all of it itself, leaving it in a constant state of wonder about everything that students do. Yavased. An old ratfolk from the Golden Road. Still wears clothing as if he lives in the desert, but somehow the rainy weather of Nantambu does not seem to effect him. Though not quite a cleric, he is somewhat of an expert on all deities and religions of Golarion, which is why he left his home country of Rahadoum. He gets angry at anyone who speaks before they think. Berendu. An old Bekyar who was a chime-ringer for over 25 years. She decided to study at the Magaambya at old age, where she met her imp familiar Haxtria. Her experience as a Chime Ringer made it an easy decision for the Magaambya to offer her a teaching position, and though she has returned her chimes, her voice keeps any student in line who was thinking of disobeying a Magaambya rule. Elresja. One of Teacher Ot's cousins (and good friends) who is somewhat of a multi-talent. You can find him tinkering with clockwork materials almost any time he is not teaching or researching something. He is also a talented bass player, often requested to support other musicians around Nantambu, though unlike Ot he sees music as something from deep in the soul, rather than mathematics in air form. Sometimes the Magaambya asks him to craft high level magical items.
Hi everyone, I have updated the system into a 5 year course list, with the fifth year being an internship in Nantambu. This is because at the start of book 3, the PCs are expected to be lvl7 in their primary branch, so if they are also half that level in their secondary branch, that means 50 courses are required to be passed, which happens in 5 years in this system. After that, you can either follow the AP and let the PCs become teachers, or treat the trip to Bloodsalt as some kind of graduation or practical research project to finish their studies if you want to delay them becoming teachers. Thanks to The Oddest Duckling for helping me with the final courses! The link in the first post should still work, but if anyone wants to make adaptations to their campaign, here is the source code for scribe.pf2:
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Magaambya bi-weekly study system ) title ( Magaambya bi-weekly study system ) head ( # Magaambya bi-weekly study system ((Title)) A bi-weekly study system for Life in the Academy (Strength of Thousands). - ) The Life in the Academy system detailed in *Pathfinder Adventure Path #169: Kindled Magic* works great for those who do not want to spend too much time on downtime. This alternative bi-weekly system is for those who want a bit more elaborate downtime, where players progress in their study by taking courses that they can choose. ## Courses ((+Courses)) The Magaambya offers many courses, as detailed at the end of this document. While some courses require your character to study from books and scrolls, many courses take a more hands-on approach where students learn by solving practical problems. There are three types of courses: **general courses**, **branch courses**, and **electives**. Your character first chooses a primary and secondary branch, starting at level 0 in both and advancing in level as you complete your courses. After choosing your branch, you have to choose which courses to follow in the coming year: * Choose 10 courses in total each year.
If you pass 5 courses belonging to your primary or secondary branch, you advance in that branch by one level. Note that you can’t advance your primary branch level above your character’s level, or your secondary branch level above half your character’s level (both with a minimum of 0), but you can 'save' your passed courses to level up your branch later. If you pass all 10 courses you chose, you can pick 10 new courses from the next year, no matter if this took less or more than a year for your character to happen.
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**Critical Success** Incredible results! You ace every exam and cause a stir that all the instructors notice. You pass the chosen course and immediately also pass another course. **Success** You succeed in your studies admirably and pass the chosen course. **Failure** You need to work harder and try again next time. **Critical Failure** You make a major mistake that requires you to perform remedial studies. Next time you Study, the outcome is one degree of success lower.
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**Critical Success** You both enhance each other's studies with great teamwork. Attempt a Study check: if you roll a critical failure, you get a failure instead, and if you roll a success, you get a critical success instead. In addition, gain an Influence Point with the NPC. **Success** You manage to work effectively as a team with no distractions. Attempt a Study check and a Discover or Influence check at the same time. **Failure** You both become distracted when working together. Attempt a Study check with a -2 penalty, and attempt a Discover or Influence check on the NPC at the same time. **Critical Failure** You both don't get along due to your differences in studying for this course. Attempt a Study check. It becomes one degree of success worse. In addition, lose an Influence Point with the NPC. ) item(
**Critical Success** As success, but you also find another place of your GM's choice that they think would be useful or of interest to you. **Success** You find the place of interest. **Failure** You didn't manage to find anything of interest. **Critical Failure** You got lost or ran into trouble. Until you have taken the Rest downtime activity, you’re particularly tired from exploring the city; at the start of each day of adventuring, you must succeed at a DC 8 flat check or be fatigued for that day.
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##### Year 1
**Cascade Bearer Courses** | **Skills** | **Teacher**
**Emerald Boughs Courses** |**Skills** | **Teacher**
**Rain-Scribes Courses** |**Skills** | **Teacher**
**Tempest-Sun Mages Courses** |**Skills** | **Teacher**
**Uzunjati Courses** |**Skills** | **Teacher**
**Elective Courses** | Skills | Teacher
= ##### Year 2 **General Courses** |**Skills** | **Teacher**
**Cascade bearer courses** | **Skills** | **Teacher**
**Emerald boughs courses** | Skills | Teacher
**Rain-scribes courses** | **Skills** | **Teacher**
**Tempest-sun mages courses** |**Skills** | **Teacher**
**Uzunjati courses** | **Skills** | **Teacher**
**Elective courses** | **Skills** | **Teacher**
= ##### Year 3 **General Courses** | **Skills** | **Teacher**
**Cascade bearer courses** | **Skills** | **Teacher**
**Emerald boughs courses** | **Skills** | **Teacher**
**Rain-scribes courses** | **Skills** | **Teacher**
**Tempest-sun mages courses** | **Skills** | **Teacher**
**Uzunjati courses** | **Skills** | **Teacher**
**Elective courses** | **Skills** | **Teacher**
= ##### Year 4 **General Courses** | **Skills** | **Teacher**
**Cascade bearer courses** | **Skills** | **Teacher**
**Emerald boughs courses** | **Skills** | **Teacher**
**Rain-scribes courses** | **Skills** | **Teacher**
**Tempest-sun mages courses** | **Skills** | **Teacher**
**Uzunjati courses** | **Skills** | **Teacher**
**Elective courses** | **Skills** | **Teacher**
= ##### Year 5 This year consists of an internship anywhere in Nantambu or surroundings, where you use and practice all that you have learned at the Magaambya at a local establishment. Example establishments and
**Establishment** | **Relevant Lore or Skill**
Yeah, all the things I've seen asked are either:
You will need all three, though. If you have a homebrew campaign and you only look at the bestiary, then it is a valid criticism that the same creature can't feel both like a boss and later like a minion, if the only thing that changes is the level of the party. If you then look at the GMG, you might feel a bit lost if you don't look at examples from existing adventures. If you do have a pre-written adventure, you will still want to customize the experience to your players, for which the bestiaries or GMG can help. Luckily, all of this is available for free on AoN. As a practical example, the way I do it is to take a monster from a certain level, think about what would make it cooler (let's say a petrifying gaze, for example because I saw it in a pre-written adventure), then look at higher-level monsters that have such an ability (basilisk/medusa), then add the ability to the boss using the rules in the GMG. It might actually need lower AC or hp to compensate for the ability, but as OP says this makes the boss more interesting. If I wanted the monster to have more actions, I would look at creatures with reactions for inspiration, or something that triggers on a crit or on death. Plenty of examples in the bestiaries. One thing that I feel like is missing is clear rules for how to design troops, because they sort of have multiple stages. But you can look at the existing ones and figure it out quickly. Another thing is multi-stage boss fights in general, or bosses with multiple spots in the initiative order. Again, there are some examples, but clear rules of thumb would help.
PossibleCabbage wrote:
What? There have been many complaints about ability scores in PF2. It's one of those things that do not make sense unless you've been playing TTRPGs since the 1970s, just like Vancian casting and spell levels. Actually, spell levels and ability scores suffer from exactly the same issue: an arbitrary linear formula that you need to remember, instead of just using level and modifier for everything. Spell level = [Character Level]/2 rounded up Ability score = 10+2*[Ability Modifier] The remaster would have been an excellent opportunity to tidy this all up. Actually, the switch from PF1 to PF2 would have been too, but roleplay veterans have a larger voice than new players unfortunately.
For the last mission at level 1, the Uzunjati mission, players are supposed to tell a story and also say something about the morale of the story. What did your players come up with? My players had the following: Kobold alchemist wrote: You are never too old to learn. Dwarven fighter wrote: Sometimes you have to take a different perspective to see what is truly going on. Human druid wrote: You can ignore what is happening outside, but it is possible that what is happening outside does not ignore you. Anadi magus wrote: You can always rebuild that which was lost. Goblin alchemist wrote: Never mix nitric acid and copper.
Deriven Firelion wrote:
I don't think it hurts to buff this item, but I would argue that ignoring lesser cover is its main advantage, not the item bonus. It essentially allows you to have +1 (on top of the bomb's item bonus) in the common situation that there is an ally or enemy between you and your target.
The mechanics are not the issue. You pay some gold and you use an item in one hand, and you spend an action to increase your AC: that's all fine. The issue is purely thematic: the typical monk fantasy fights with two hands free (except those who use certain weapons, which is a different problem with its own thread). Or at least not with a shield or buckler. So, if there was some kind of class feature given for free, with exactly the same mechanics as a shield but different fluff, that would solve it. It would be a small buff due to no gold needed to spend on a shield, but that's all. Maybe compensate it by not giving shield block as an option. So the parry option given above would work. But you don't want to rely on reflavouring when it's such a classical power fantasy.
Hey Grifta, thanks a lot for your feedback! Appreciate your kind words and the effort you put into this. Oh, I didn't do the math exactly, but this is absolutely intended. I was wondering what kind of characters would be disciplined enough to turn a group activity not too much into a social activity / party (which is what a charismatic character might do), while also not turning it into a solo study (which is what an intelligent character might do). A wise character would be able to balance this. Totally subjective, I know, but that's what you get with abilities anyway. I can completely imagine the clerics and druids, and also the monks and rangers, to better be able to seriously lead such a group effort, as opposed to the more charisma-based or int-based characters. It is not as unbalanced as you portray here though. A high wis character might have less charisma, which they might need to succeed with the Hangout (many influence checks will be charisma-based). And a high int character might be better at the Study checks, as many int-based skills are used for Study checks, and they would be trained in more of such skills. Not too sure about this last point as it depends a lot on the chosen branch and on the class, but I have more points:
It is good that people using this system are aware of the unbalance though, and I like your recommended changes, they indeed make it all more balanced (except that maybe high charisma characters would have a slight advantage, which would be fine for a teamwork-based activity too!). The reason to tie it to a save instead of a skill, is that in my opinion you need discipline to not let a group activity degenerate into a social activity, or to avoid the trap of getting distracted, but to keep yourself and others focused on the task. I found Will to be the most fitting save. But your skill suggestions make sense too.
I don't think there are many fiends in this AP. At least the Charau-Ka and Usaro don't play any significant role, for whatever reason. I've prepared some adjustments for my campaign where they do play a more important role, you can find it here.
SuperBidi wrote:
One could build one party and the other the other party, and then you pick four encounters from different APs at different levels and let the same objective GM run the four encounters for the two different parties. The GM can also determine conditions like everyone at half hp and out of focus points but 10 minutes time before combat, or everyone knew a particular skill challenge was coming up the next day so they have time to pick the right spells. Running 8 encounters is still an investment but might be doable.
TheOddestDuckling wrote: I really love this resource! I notice that the courses only go up to Year 3. This should coincide roughly with the party starting book 3 (where they graduate). What do you plan to do/suggest for leveling up past then? Just going back to the original system? Thanks! I haven't given it much thought yet, but I was under the impression that at some point the original system wants characters to switch to the practical research activity. Alternatively, I have seen many ideas of not immediately making the PCs teachers, but first let them supervise other students or do some graduation project (or both at the same time). I think this would be a good option for book 3 rather than more courses. So rather than traditional courses, switch to other things like internship / practical research / graduation project / custom courses / inventing new spells / supervising newer students / learning to teach.
I think I've seen literally every class mentioned in this thread now for Samurai, besides full casters and alchemist. So maybe the word Samurai is actually as versatile as something like the words Mage or Hero, and we won't come to any conclusion because basically everything is possible. I did like the Swashbuckler solution though, for keeping a weapon sheathed to gain panache. You could disallow tumbling through to gain panache with this option, and instead give it any of the thousand Samurai mechanics discussed in this thread to compensate.
keftiu wrote:
Agreed. Isn't unarmored swordmaster just a swashbuckler or a monk with monk weapon? Isn't armored swordmaster on a horse just a fighter or champion, possibly with cavalier? I guess letting monks use Japanese-style swords would fulfil one part of the fantasy. Homebrewing that is easy: give a weapon the monk tag and possibly remove another tag if it's too good.
Cintra Bristol wrote:
Not yet, I'll probably improvise something in my campaign. But someone on reddit started work on this: Quote: I really like this and have started fleshing out the new teachers. Since their names were similar, I have made Xhosiliawa a kobold and a sister to Xhokan from the Powderpile. Varashod is an android. Working on the others.
While the vanilla 'Life in the Magaambya' study system is too bare-bones for my taste, the expanded Magaambya with weekly checks is too overwhelming for me. So in my system, I picked some parts from these systems, as well as from the Monthly study system (which includes exams, and roles for branches), to make a new bi-weekly study system. I don't have a calendar or exams but I do have a course list, as my players indicated they would like to choose the courses their characters are following, and I've seen some nice examples of courses online already. So with that, I present:
for the Magaambya. This document is written from a player's perspective. The branch benefits remain the same, though you could also change the benefits based on what courses the players took. I also encourage to combine it with an NPC Influence system, for which many options can be found online: I personally like this one best. How many Influence Points (or Friendship or Relation Points) you need for an NPC to give a certain advantage is left open. I also had to introduce some new teachers, else the teaching load of the staff mentioned in the AP would become ridiculous. For example, there is only one Emerald Boughs teacher mentioned (Zuma) and it is mentioned that he only teaches electives, so I made up some alchemy and other related courses for him. Now we have 4 possible study system options (3-monthly, monthly, bi-weekly and weekly), so I hope this will be useful to someone. Please let me know if you have any critique!
JiCi wrote:
Speaking of generic names, I think 'Spy' would be an excellent class name that could cover some things that the current rogue does not cover. Stealthy poisoner with smoke bomb and some ki magic (ninja) could be covered by it, as could the Vigilante (though this is already an archetype), but also more diplomatic characters that don't necessarily want to use music, the gods, or the blood of their ancestors to influence people.
Oceanshieldwolf wrote: I think you are drawing very different conclusions to me about the difference between a tool, and AI given your use of comparisons like drawing/painting and cameras. What's your conclusion? Both photography and painting are art forms, wouldn't both human-GMs and AI-GMs be valid TTRPG forms? Oceanshieldwolf wrote: I would not agree that generating “art” and text “supports” storytelling. Why not? And what do you think of virtual dice rollers and fantasy name generators that have been around for much longer?
In my opinion, it's only a matter of years before most of the media we consume (books, memes, films, etc.) will be mostly AI-generated. TTRPGs will follow suit, with AI taking a prominent role, just like VTTs have taken an important role since the pandemic. That is not to say there will not be a place for human GMs. Just like people have continued to draw and paint even though we have cameras, and people still calculate things by hand even though we have calculators, people will keep GMing. But AI will be a huge support, and in many cases I think a human GM might not be needed at all in the future, except for those who want to have that old-school feeling, just like some people right now do not want to use digital dice-rolling tools because they like rolling physical dice. Already people are generating art and text with AI to support their storytelling. As long as we view AI as a tool this is the way to go in my opinion.
hauk119 wrote: It doesn't really make sense that a crime boss could amass wealth and power in a society where wealth is meaningless. Maybe she wants to go back to the old ways, or just keep wealth for herself instead of sharing it with society. However... Quote:
This sounds like a very good idea to me. The events with Salathiss and Froglegs like you mention, and later with Dimari-Diji visiting Nantambu, could all result into big changes in Nantambu society. And thanks for answering my questions! This helps. keftiu wrote:
Plane of Axis? I missed that, is it in the Mwangi expanse book? And yes I would have to make sure Osibu still plays an important role, I didn't yet have a solution for that. Taking your and hauk's ideas together, maybe Nantambu is on the edge of becoming a paradise, but some troubles need to be solved (stone ghost, frogless, salathis, etc.) and once Osibu is protected and Dimari-Diji visits Nantambu, the heroes can help shape Nantambu into a paradise city like Osibu. Quote: Another thought on this (apologies for the double post): if Nantambu is so utopian, then it makes Walkena's argument significantly weaker - why put up with his tyranny when a perfect life is so relatively close at hand? The hardscrabble lives folk make in Bloodcove or while (re)building Vidrian are somewhat cheapened if they could just move to a nearby slice of paradise. This, however, doesn't seem an issue to me. Because it is already the case (Nantambu being a haven of peace and culture), just to a lesser degree. And Nantambu is much too open of a society for Walkena.
In my opinion, the high levels are not so much of a problem. Characters have so many options there already, and would likely use their reaction for something else. What you can do is make the DC the same as the primary check DC (or 2 less as proposed in this thread), but only for DCs up to 20. After that, keep it at DC20 like in the core rules.
In preparing for this AP, I've decided that I really wanted to lean into the utopian aspects of Nantambu. It is already described as a haven of peace, learning and culture, but I want to take it one step further. The Magaambya being focused on both arcane and primal magic also gives me solarpunk vibes, with nature and magic (instead of nature and technology) as core aspects of the city. With so much magic going around, and so many people dedicated to improve society, and such long periods of peace due to the tempest-sun mages, in my campaign I imagine Nantambu has recently developed a post-scarcity society where everyone has their basic needs met. Unseen servants keep the streets clean, primal magic causes an abundance of food, and healing magic keeps everyone healthy (though resurrections would still be rare and costly). Money is no longer necessary: everyone can ask for basic things like food and minor healing, and if anyone needs something more special like a big house, or transportation to another city, it is freely given if it is 1) abundantly available and 2) deemed necessary. The chime-ringers help in making sure no one gathers wealth for themselves (cough Froglegs cough) and also that slackers (cough Chizire cough) get a bad reputation and might be refused luxury goods and services. Now, the question is, if I make such a choice, besides the effects on the story it will also have mechanical effects.
These changes are great! I am still preparing but I've also read similar qualms about Koride, and I also thought the Vesicant Egg could use an update on the role it plays in the AP. Your rewrite solves a lot of problems I've read from others. I will also add here the idea I've read somewhere else about the animal trader in book 1, to make it more like an animal hospital. In general, the vibe of this AP could be much more positive, and I was thinking of making Nantambu much more of a utopian place, but a utopian place overrun by insects seems even more fun!
If you really want to give a discount by using Diplomacy, you could make it up to 25% of the full price of the item. That way, if they are cheeky and try the same trick again later to sell the item for a higher price with absurd Diplomacy rolls, and you make them sell the item for 25% of the full price more, then they haven't earned any income, meaning the Earn an Income activity and the Bargain Hunter feat are not useless. Example: they want to buy an item worth 100gp, they get critical success on Diplomacy (I would require multiple rolls, to make the NPC helpful and make a request, etc.), the NPC hesitates but sees the hero really needs the item, and it offers up to a 25% discount, meaning the PC buys the item for 75gp. The NPC would then still have made a 25gp profit to cover their costs, as someone has sold them the item for 50gp at some point in history. Later, when the PC comes across a better item, they want to sell the same item again. This would normally yield them 50gp (half the normal price), but they convince the new buyer to pay 75gp with several high rolls. Then in the end they earned nothing, and if they actually want to earn something with diplomacy they would need the Bargain Hunter feat.
Skinsaw man is no match for the PCs on his own, I know from experience and also from other GMs. Like always, I think the best choice is to add minions in his room, indeed something like one or several goblin ghast assistants. I don't know how he is supposed to get sneak attack damage as written, maybe by feinting or something?
Deriven Firelion wrote: Did anyone do some PF2 monster conversions for Runelords? Yes, all of them. Check A Series of Dice-based Events and its corresponding discord server.
PC: Galathorn the Unbroken
Officially there is no impact for virtuous players in Runeforge. Which I think is kind of boring, so you can search the forums for alternative boons and penalties as there were plenty of suggested options. Or even better, come up with your own! I would only give a boon to a player that has no sin points though, and even then you might consider keeping the original ruling because Runeforge is all about sins, not virtues.
Filthy Lucre wrote: Exactly how much downtime is expected to occur in any given chunk? The reason I ask is that I just crunched the numbers and unless I'm mistaken, it would take a level 3 Wizard who critically succeded their craft check something like 44 days to complete a level three item worth 75gp. Am I doing this math wrong or am I just assuming 'downtime' is much shorter than it actually is...? I don't think there are expectations. I run a converted PF1 AP and I just give a few weeks of downtime between books. Note that for what your player is doing he is better off just buying the item, then spend the rest of the time adventuring (if possible) or if everyone wants downtime, use the Earn Income action. Unless there is no 3rd level settlement anywhere near, which I doubt. Or he has a cool uncommon formula of an item not sold anywhere nearby. Crafting is almost never the best option, check the homebrew forum for ideas on how to change that.
I've run one homebrew campaign and one AP is currently near the end. As someone fresh to roleplaying in general, for the homebrew campaign I was very grateful for the pathfinderwiki to read up on the lore. Then I thought of an overarching story, and made encounters 1-3 sessions in advance. When I switched to running an AP, the thing is that it is easier, but takes the same amount of time. Where I would actively look for monsters and lore in a homebrew campaign, for the AP I could just read the book. It requires less creativity, but still gives the option for creativity by making changes to the AP and tying in player's backstory, etc. So APs have my preference unless I have a very long creative spark.
Lawrencelot wrote: PC: Mok Can't edit my post anymore so here's the aftermath. After the fight with the sinspawn men, the party went on towards High Lady Athroxis. In the waiting room I put a prison with an Aasimar Sinspawn Cleric of Iomedae for Mok's player to play as (the group already has a paladin of Iomedae). With the help of this cleric they defeated Athroxis and found the teleportation circle to get out of Runeforge. They took Mok's body with them, but instead of going back to the material plane, Iomedae's herald grabbed them and took them to the Boneyard, to the River of Souls.There they saw Mok's soul going towards Pharasma's judgment, fought some Astradaemons, and also figured out that some of the souls from Varisia were missing the greedy part of their personality, causing a wrong judgment from Pharasma and disturbing the whole process. Outsiders asked them to figure out what was going on with this, as the PCs suspected Karzoug had something to do with it. In the boneyard they found a high level cleric NPC and paid him to cast the Resurrect ritual on Mok, but unfortunately the NPC failed because he had never tried to resurrect such a powerful person before. It cost them most of their coin. Then they realized the NPC could also use the Raise Dead spell, which is more expensive but at least wouldn't fail. They sold everything they didn't need and Raised Mok's body, then returned to the Material Plane with the help of Iomedae's herald.
My players disliked Belor so much they thought he might have something to do with all the murders. It was for similar reasons: it seems like he's not doing anything useful in the AP and he's a lousy sheriff. What helped in my case was a bit counter-intuitive: giving them a badge that said they were on a mission for the sheriff of Sandpoint. In the meantime Belor would go look for other recruits, or train the guards in case there would be a ghoul or goblin attack. But the badge helped make the relationship more clear: the PCs were on an official mission, rather than doing this guy a favour. In later books they just took the role of independent investigators but for book 2 it helped them being able to say they were on official business everywhere.
As Arcaian said, a small village isn't supposed to be able to defend itself against high level monsters such as giants. Goblins and orcs are already a threat to them. This is why remote villages in for example Varisia are under protection of larger cities, who can come to their aid with small armies or send adventurers to help.
PC: Mok
TheGoofyGE3K wrote: Plus one name for multiple things to keep things simple (ish) like they did with Feats kinda makes sense The thing is that all feats work the same. You can get a feat of a certain level only if your character is that level or higher, no matter if it's a class feat, general feat, skill feat, etc. It makes no sense that it doesn't work this way for spell levels too, instead relying on an arbitrary formula just like the archaic ability scores->modifier formula (which also should've been removed in my opinion).
Hm, my paladin player probably won't like that he can't wade through a troop of low-level enemies with his high armor, as every attack by the troops asks for a reflex save so AC is meaningless. Does anyone know why even melee attacks require a reflex save? You'd think having good armor helps when wading through a bunch of goblins or orcs.
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