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That's easier said than done in some cases. I used to play a witch using the occult spell list and almost all of their early spells are Will saves, with the occasional fortitude save. There were no reflex saves.

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So this is a thought I just had, but... it would be kind of cool if we got a new divine witch patron... maybe. Right now we have "Faith's Flamekeeper" Which seems like it is support oriented with the familiar ability, hex cantrip and granted spell.

But what about things that focused on the more destructive abilities of the Divine spell list "Hammer of Judgement" which are basically you are being employed sa a bounty hunter (either boy heaven or hell)

or "Voice of the Necropolis" which can be played as either the one who puts the dead down, or one who allows the dead to come back and finish their unfinished business.

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I just had a thought. I know being tiny means you have a reach of 0, meaning you have to share space with a target you want to attack.

Does the opposite hold true for the new Large ancestries? Do they automatically get the 10 ft reach as default?

But overall, I can't wait to see these. These ancetries (not just these today, but all of them from Howl of the Wild) really resonate with what I like best about PF2e: choice.

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Iomedae Gives her life protecting other gods, and wills the remainder of her Divinity into her Goddess... Arazni.

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Okay I don't have facts to debate that I DON'T like the idea of Iomedae being directly involved in Arazni's betrayal... but I can see another way.

The mortal woman who would one day become the Inheritor set her helm on the table. They were roughly a mile from the front. Even from this distances she could smell the rot of flesh. "We need a miracle," she sighed, offering a quick prayer to Arazni and Aroden.

"I've been thinking about that," Tyreseus replied. He was a rare oddity, a Liberator of Nethys. She nodded at him to continue. "I was thinking, Shouldn't the right-hand of the Aroden be here, after all, he himself fought the Whispering Tyrant during his first rise"

"If my lady chooses not to appear, I must believe it is because she still has faith in us," Iomedae replied. "What about your mercurial master?" she replied.

"oh, we don't want Lord Nethys here," he chuckled. "More likely to side with Tar-Baphon, magical knowledge and all that."

Iomedae rolled her eyes. She knew that, she'd made the statement ironically. "So, until one of them chooses to appear, we must soldier on ourselves."

"But, what if we didn't need to wait?" Tyreseus offered. "What if we could invoke her and compel her appearance."

"You would not only question the will of a Goddess, but then try to bind her?" she snarled. His proposal had only lead to a darker and darker expression. However, the soldiers around her, some followers of Arazni, but most followers of Aroden, murmured to each other.

Iomedae drew her blade. "I would no more compel the service of a goddess than I would conscript a soldier," she snapped. "this discussion is over."

But it wasn't. the discussion happened behind closed doors, in hushed tones. The Priests of Nethys worked made the summoning and binding.

Iomedae would was across the field trying to return a detachment of wounded soldiers to their base camp (not one of her great acts) when the Summoning and Binding of the Goddess was done. She felt it, felt part of her heart yanked roughly toward the location where this new push was happening. Miles away... the bastards had planned for this. She ran. She ran with ever ounce of strength and will her muscles could offer. but before she could reach the battle, she felt that yanked part of her heart break...

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The really cool news is I play in enough SF/PF games per week to try out all the new character options ( :*( )

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I love that even while they structue things, they give us so many options. I can't wait to find out more about the Surkis and maybe think of a Surkis that was feeding on primal magic leaking from one of the elemental planes.

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Well, given Starfinder 1e is still going to be a thing, you're not "losing" them.

For 2e, they have made it clear they are starting with a few playable ancestries, and and going to expand.

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So I hear you acknowledge that balance matters, and that the things you're asking for probably break balance, but to please do them anyway.

So, tiny PC ancestries are all ready a thing, sprites, and poppets are either tiny by default, or can be. and I believe in howl of the wild they will be introducing their first large player ancestry. So those things are already fine.

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I said on Twitter, I love how much all the options they added perfectly fit with the central theme: the Gap.

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So I imagine that the process of doing all of this is exhausting. Like punching can tire you out. Also with things like Air and Water to have a significant amount to sell, it would take time. Like I could see it taking an air kineticist hours to fill an air tank.

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Now the interesting idea would be in a Space stations/ship/colony setting.

Air, breathable air, would be valuable all on it's own. or usable soil, or plant matter (even deadd as it can become soil) Water, metals for repairing. The only ones who can't is a fire kineticist.

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Please remember that these uses of AI removes actual human creatives from the equation making it harder to get a job in the creative fields.

Further, the way they generate these things is basically by illegally harvesting information, running it through a blender, and trying to figure out the smartest way to put it back together. It's copyright infringement, which remember, results in actual human writers getting paid less.

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I had asked one of the devs, and they said there was one more coming but that it would be "Very different".

My assumption is that it is likely not a class, but probably a field test for tech, more weapons, maybe even a starship.

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That point about the Kineticist being able to generate matter from the Elemental planes on a space station is kind of interesting. Could a kineticist make a living doing this? or which ones could make the best living?

Also, if we keep this stuff up, someone may want to submit a scenario to Randall Munroe.

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Just a thought that popped into my head, and realized there are probably more things like this.

So, say you're an Air Kineticist in a space suit, in space. Given you can use basic kinesis to summon air, If you cup one hand into a cylinder, and put the other flat against the back and summon air into it, can you propel yourself with this?

Add in any other weird physics or scifi interactions you can think of.

Also, feel free to answer the questions, but this is mostly in good humor

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I like this a lot better. I would add the words "Immediately as a Free action" to the end of the first sentence" just for clarity.

And setting the dice roll... I don't know. I think it would make sense to let them use your modifier instead of your own. That's a feeling, nothing to insist on it.

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While I'm eager to hear about anything that is official from Paizo, feel free to throw head cannon's in here, it's where I'm starting from.

Goblins ferment and pickle everything. It's why they have a reputation for eating trash. But if you've ever had goblin cheeses you will either love the complexity of flavor, or vomit because they do take fermentation and pickling to extremes.

Orcs prefer to preserve the identity of their meat, hence they do minimal cooking, as they feel it disrespects their prey to deny what it was, a living creature who was killed for their sustenance. Thus not only is there not a lot of heavy cooking of the meat, but they also eschew sauces that would cover the meat. For this reason Meat is often served with a hearty vegetable stew

Gnomes are amazing patisseries and candy makers because sugar is stimulating. The most accomplished gnome candy makers will claim to cook with non-physical ingredients, and most other cooks, alchemists, and magic users cannot tell if the Gnome is being euphemistic, humorous, or literal when they talk about "sprinkling the cookies with children's laughter" before baking.

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Your coloration tends toward a mix of Goblin green and your Elven parent's skin tone. So you are more a lighter or darker green depending on the elf's skin tone.

your ears instead of being floppy are more rigged and swept back than most other goblins. You also tower over them at 3'10. and instead of the bright glittering irises that most of your people have, your eyes are almost all black, like your elven parent.

As far as non-phsyical ways you can illustrate this. Maybe given them a phobia of fire, which is bizarre as most Goblins have a facination with it.

Or make it so that dogs and horses actually like them.

Oh, maybe they can't eat some of the more heavily fermented goblin foods. (It's my head cannon that goblins don' tlike "rotten" foods, they like fermented foods. A lot of cultures do stuff like this. Goblins, because they're a fantasy race, take this to extremes other cultures can't tolerate)

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I don't think Hiding without anything to hide behind would make much sense.

Allowing them to use a free action on their turn to take cover, hide, or drop prone would make much more sense to me, then the lead by example would grant a circumstance or status bonus to reflex saves.

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And lets not forget the last person you can work with... the DM. If the GM knows all of you are, for some bizarre reason, averse to packing healing, he can give you an NPC who can do your healing, or adjust difficulty and damage amounts.

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So mimic: "Lurking Predator" change it's gooey teeth and tongue revelation, have the appearance reveal to be a bugs carapice so that there are pincers and claws or arm blades.

Mind flayers: "Cephalo-Phages" make them even more octopus like, remove the appearance of humanoid limbs.And instead of taking over the human body, chest bursting. always a good choice.

Stirges: No, Albatoonoe that's not a bad point. They are just giant mosquitoes.

Owlbear: "Amalgamations" These are the results of Lamashtu convincing Nethys to try and create some new creatures (though thanks to Lamashtu they all turn out to be predators). This also allows for other creatures Squidwolves, Ankyloscorpions, etc.

Ropers: "Cave Abalone". These shell fish look like rocks in cave (they have developed the ability to process oxygen from air) and can lash out with muscular tongues.

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So your arguments boil down to "No one wants to be a healer"
"Off healing isn't enough"
"the DM is gonna make it lethal, and doesn't have a choice not to"
"Using stategies and tactics to avoid damage won't work because I've never seen it work."

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So if you have had a discussion with your GM about how no one in the party wanted to go healer, and you don't have the healing items or NPC to deal with situations like this, sounds like a GM problem. If you didn't discuss this with the GM, sounds like a player problem.

All in all, it sounds like you are upset about a hypothetical problem that can easily be solved at any table where people are acting like adults.

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Perpdepog Actually you made a BETTER point than I was making. thank you.

BigNorseWolf Then don't play second edition. No one is going to take your first edition books away from you.

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Master Han Del of the Web wrote:
Now, I'm just imagining Cayden Cailean and Lamashtu trying to awkwardly co-parent some sort of divine monster (They each get the little terror on alternating centuries).

Oh... Goblins, Orcs, Gnolls, and any other "monstrous" race that might normally worship Lamashtu, who go adventuring, Often claim to be the descendants of such a union. And Any of his "monstrous" followers that he appears to, he appears as one of theirs.

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I will counter the "Like Johnny Bravo" part of the Cayden Cailean concept with: no, he's actually successful. He has consensually slept with every divinity of a compatable orientation (Ace are ace and lesbians are lesbians and straights are straights). It is always been during times where the other is not in a relationship and maybe even looking for a rebound.

My head cannon is NOT that Cayden Cailean is some "Alpha Chad" but that's he's a himbo man-slut. Some, like Arazni and Sarenrae are somewhat embarassed by it, some like Gozreh and Shelyn readily admit it.

Cayden Cailean is an any willing thing that walks kind of guy.

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So what, a system should never allow you to be hurt because then you require a healer, a role which you cannot imagine anyone enjoying, and you seem to actively encourage people to develop the same attitude.

This is the whole point of having a party, different play styles working together to cover weaknesses. Do you also object to social encounters because that requires someone to build as a Face?

I LOVE playing support characters. weather protective or healing. Just as epic moments can come from healing as can come from tanking or DPR. It's a weird mentality to me that "healing is boring, or not fun". my dream is to have that moment where my time is on the brink and I can just go, "We do not fall today!" and hit them with a massive heal, or buff that can turn the tide.

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But no one should feel they HAVE to. If the game is forcing that on players by practical necessity (and it feels like low level pf2 play does) that's an element of design I do not like, and the solution is not as you've done repeatedly in this thread, to tar everyone that doesn't like it as a dirty selfish munchkin.

Well for PF2, you can just be trained in medicine, play a combat focused cleric of a god with a healing font, or be any alchemist and prepare a few elixers of healing.

One of the things I was impressed with coming from 5e was how much access there was to healing, without making it the focus of your build.

Also, maybe it's not the worst idea to talk with everyone while building characters and talk about healing. maybe someone wants to try, but that's an intimidating role to take, Maybe no one wants to, and the DM makes sure to adjust encounters or give you an NPC Alchemist. There are tons of options for healing.

And the Mystic in SF2e will be a great healer, there is an envoy subclass for it, and from the sounds of thigns, there might be an operative subclass, and maybe even a witchwarper subclass.

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It also gives them something to gnaw on. Young goblins need to have things they can gnaw on.

This makes me head cannon that goblins, or at least young goblins, are like Beavers, their teeth are constantly growing, so the gnawing is a way to keep them manageable.

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So regarding the whole Asset vs. Mark thing, I prefer asset. "Mark" implies disrespect and/or malicious manipulation of the Mark. Asset is a term more commonly used in spy craft, and is more neutral. An asset is something you cultivate and EITHER know how to manipulate, or know how they'll behave.

I agree about letting the Key Attribute modifier be flexible would be smarter.

And with changing "Get 'em" to a status penalty.

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I just can't wait to play as living Umbrella (I think that's a poppet heritage)

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it would appear that the Envoy will be able to give tons of at will buffs to allies, I liked "Don't you die on me". Especially since It was just a free reduction of the Dying value, and if they were at dying 1, there is no wounded value, I have to image that's kind of strong.

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Would runic weapons affect most weapons? Didn't they specify that tech weapons wouldn't work with runes.

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I'm liking the Envoy as it is. I agree, it would be nice if "Get 'em" didn't overlap with flat-footed, but I like that it's not a bonus, as that lets others stack bonuses ontop of the penalty you secured.

And I just had an idea for an Envoy that... it's stupid, but I want to try it. they're Infosphere famous. They are a famous Influencer who is constantly live-streaming all the team's fights and investigations. and has a um... Matreon account set up to fund their "next project" (gear upgrade).

Further, I like someone's idea of an intimidation based leader, because that is a common trope. The tough gruff leader who despite being very aggro is well loved and respected by their people. Call that Leadership style "The Drill Instructor". For a good example, see the character Roy Kent from Ted Lasso.

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Three cheers to the Archive staff/volunteers!

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A fair point has been made that with the lack of wide spread taboos and hang ups regarding LGBTQ relationships, terminology regarding them would not be as colorful and euphamistic as it is for us.

However, what about inter-ancestral relationships. I'm not talking about simiply humans/elves, or Elves/Orcs, y'know, basicaly the same thing with a few cosmetic changes, but seriously varied creatures.

like is there a term for a person from a medium ancestry in a relationship with a small ancestr? Or what about being an animal ancestry (including the more common humanoids) in a relationship with a plant ancestry?

Do Gebbites have terms for their undead who have relationships with the Quick (living)?

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I find that thinking of spell slots in a vacuum is not helpful.
Sorcerers get 4 per level,
wizards have a way to recover spells,
Clerics get extras to cover their job of healing,
Druids have very useful focus spells and the shield block feat,
Psychics have enhanced cantrips,
Magus and Summoner focus on special non-casting abilities with their casting as a little bonus,
The Witch has special abilies through their familiar with some wonderful focus spells and focus cantrips,
the Bard has martial abilties even without being the martial bard, along with it's focus cantrips,
the Oracle... has it's curse and focus spells... eh that one needs work.

They made sure that each of the casting classes has a way to either stretch their spell slots, or other ways to contribute.

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What gets me is Cayden Cailean's stuff.

1: When he passed the test of the starstone, he was SO DRUNK he canonically does not remember how he did it.

2: Because he was an orphan as a mortal, his priests frequently run orphanages, without insisting the children take up the caydenite faith, but those that do, take the last name Cailean.

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Category Newly Risen God
Edicts: Practice Empathy for all sentient beings. seek to understand the struggles of others, seek first to understand before fighting
Anathema: Refuse to learn from others, Hold onto prejudices when confronted with truth, spread false generalizations of other people
Areas of Concern: Understanding others, protecting the marginalized, Spreading truth
Holyness Can be Holy

Divine Ability Wisdom
Divine Font heal
Divine Skill diplomacy
Favored Weapon Staff
Domains: Family, Introspection, Truth, Zeal
Cleric Spells

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"Hi, I'm part of an adventuring group, and we were wanting to hire a a team member who has some divine power?"

"Sure thing kid, group name?" She asks.

"The Southern Fang," he answered.

the woman behind the desk checked a book briefly. "Okay, you're not on the black list, so what sort of service are you looking for from your holy person?"

"Black list? Service"? He asked.

"Service," she reiterated. "Are you looking for someone to heal you up, and keep you vertical, or are you looking for someone who's more on the wrath side of things? Are you needing someone with expertise in rituals, or with undead either destroy or controlling, what are you looking for. Divine power's a tool, we need to know what use so we can match you with the right tool."

"Er... um... healer, I guess he stammered. "I don't expect to encounter undead, but if we do, most likely we'll be on the destroys side of things."

"Okay, now we're talking," she replied. She copied some information down to a list, and presented it to the young man.

"These are the holy people who hire out through us that meet your criteria, along with their deity or pantheon of worship, their expected rate. You'll pay a retainer up front that we split with the holy person, and then the rest to them on completion. The god is listed because if you or your party tries to get them to do something that violates their sacred oathes, the contract is voided, you owe them their pay on the spot, and if you don't pay you are black listed, and we send both Asmodeans and Calistrians after you, and you don't want to find out what happens when those two agree on something."

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My guy you sound like a Catholic/protestant describing a protestant/catholic.

Trickery would also fall under Cayden Cailean's domain, so are we to not trust any Cailenites? She's not an evil goddess, she's just one of responsible indulgence.

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I thought her main area of concern is vengence and lust? And don't most houses of worship run a brothel? Meaning they are already known for renting their bodies and time for gold.

also, are you saying no one would hire a worshiper of Odin, or of Athena? Both hire highly praised and well known for their cunning and trickery.

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the "Domain" is really a meta concept that we know about, but in universe they probably wouldn't have a concept of. Because you worship a god, and revere specific traits, but which traits you specifically revere wouldn't really be common knowledge. You yourself might get a reputation of "don't throw away money hiring them" but not your god.

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Abadar and Asmodeus were the obvious

Cayden Cailean, he was a sword for hire in his mortal life, so his clerics doing similar makes sense.

"Non-judgemental healer? Oh, we can absolutely find you a good rate" and if the cause is just, they may waive their fee. However, if the mission is agaisnt their morals, you may have an enemy in your ranks serving you drinks.

Calistria: ABSOLUTELY! "tend your own wounds first" is one of her mantras.

"yes, we have several clerics who can help keep you vertical on your revenge quest. We have some wonderful payment plans for if you would like them to help you get horizontal too." They would be great in that they would also be counseling you when you're going to far. "Sweetie, he deserves to die, absolutely, but not his husband, that's too far."

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Refering to a group as "prismatic" could either mean wlw, or polyamourus, or both.

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So if they are, to use your euphemism "not looking to have children" but want to adopt it could be "She not looking to have children, unless they're Cailean's" Since Cayden Cailean's followers are known to run orphanages, and many orphans who end up following him take his last name.

And I do like the Caylis term for people who are openly non-romantic, but enjoy physical relationships.

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This idea of the Free Archetype by default would actually be a cool way of building in your ship role into your character build. Since a ship role will usually (but not necessarily always) not affect game play outside of ship operations.

So at character creation you choose a ship role. While you CAN fill other ship roles, you get special feats ever other level that make you better at this role.

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Given that Nex also has facilities like "Flesh Forges" It's no small leap to assume a change of physical sex to match or explore gender is a simple thing... for the rich.

What about some innuedo or double entndre. Like in our world when we talk about a relationship with a significant age gap we call them "May-December romances" or back in like the 70's gay people were "Friends of Dorothy". Or terms like Bear, twink, otter, etc... what are some terms like that that would crop up in Golarion?

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Asmodeus wrote:

Edicts: negotiate contracts to your best advantage, rule tyrannically and torture weaker beings, show subservience to your betters
Anathema break a contract, free a slave, insult Asmodeus by showing mercy to your enemies

There were very few who visited his offices willingly. However so many eventually needed to. His numerous "employees" all operated under numerous contracts.

The nobles all feared him for his vicious and air-tight contracts. They were shocked by the strictness he took with his servents. All could read and all worked tirelessly for him.

What the nobles he looked down on didn't realize is that he taught his employees to read,to understand law and contract, and that their servitude contracts had buy out clauses, and he paid his "employees" well so that they reflected his magnificence. Most, when they took advantage of the buy out clause, either took the first ship in the harbor across the inner sea, others stayed on. He intended to make sure the lazy worthless nobles who had kept his family in poverty would learn their place, and they would lament as those they undervalued were not only raised up, but raised up and loyal to him.

He does not free a slave, the slave frees themself. and it is the lazy self-import nobles he views as weaker, and enemies.

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