Bjørn Røyrvik |
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My first instinct was to answer 'yes', but then I thought about it. The last generic rulebook I bought was Ultimate Wilderness, and if these hypothetical books were in that vein I wouldn't buy them. If we got proper domain building and social interaction rules I would be very interested. Even if I didn't end up using the rules I would probably get such a book on principle.
Updates would be nice, but only if they updated in the way I wanted them to. Since this is unlikely to be the case, I doubt I would buy those hypotheticals either.
David knott 242 |
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I do still buy PF1 products from 3rd party publishers.
But if Paizo dedicated significant resources to brand new PF1 products, I would wonder about how coherent their plans were since they would implicitly be moving resources away from PF2, which would raise questions about just where the company is going in regard to standard fantasy gaming.
On the other hand, I would be quite happy to buy less resource intensive new PF1 material from Paizo.
DeathlessOne |
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If Paizo made more 1e products( yeah I know "and monkeys might fly out of my butt"), but if it actual happened, would you buy them?
With very little hesitation. Alternatively, if a third party made a deal with Paizo to make PF1 content 'officially', I would begin to purchase PF1 content from them.
Also would you be more interested in mostly new, roughly 50/50 new and reprints, or mostly reprints/updated stuff?
50/50 new products with proper revisions and updates to FAQ items would be immensely appealing to me.
Tsukiyo |
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I'd like more 64 page modules.
I have more Adventure Paths than I'll ever get to run, but a greater variety of shorter adventures would be most welcome.
Having said that, I'm enjoying not being tied to buying any new fantasy RPG product. My current first edition Pathfinder collection has got me covered in that regard. This leaves me more disposable income to invest in other, non d20, systems. Loving the Alien RPG currently.
SunKing |
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I would. As you’ve said, it won’t happen, but I would. I think PF2 is an objectively better game, but I don’t have the energy to teach myself a new system, and I’ve got so much great PF1 ‘Classic’ material and I don’t have an inclination to convert.
I’d be interested in updated ‘omnibus’ editions, like they did for RotRL. Even gathering together older modules outside of the APs. I’d be all over updates from the pre-Pathfinder 3.5 modules, for example...
Davor Firetusk |
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Reverse converted APs would be fun. I'm in the boat of plenty of remaining ones to play or run as well, but some of the new APs also look like they would be fun. Heck I almost bought a 3rd party product, which I have only done once in 20 years (I got a new copy of Sandy Peterson's Chuthulu Mythos book for half price at a game store going out of business).
Dragon78 |
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Of course I would say yes.
I would love new hardcover books or pocket versions since they are more cost effective. I would be fine with both new and reprints/update material.
I would love new APs. I also like the idea of 1e conversions from the 2e APs.
I have no interest in more players guide books though compilations would be nice.
Meirril |
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I'd be interesting in books that flesh out Golorian. There are lots of areas that get a very vague treatment without really giving playable detail.
I'd prefer avoiding things that introduce new rules, spells or magic items. Also avoid new races. New monsters...do what is right for each book. I'd prefer if new material stuck to existing monsters, but if some creature got a mention fleshing it out would be expected.
Of course some new items/rules and other things would be needed, for instance trying to explain the Steampunk setting of Arkenstar without introducing anything new wouldn't work. I'd just prefer to see the focus be on describing the local politics and relationships plus the history that formed it.
Dragon78 |
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Of course I would want more world building books... as hardcover/pocket books.
I would love more races, monsters, class features/options. I don't need more spells except more damage dealing cantrips(alignment for cleric, and fire, force, elec., negative energy, and sonic) and a few other things. Just like spells, magic items are not high on my list and there only few things I really would like to see. As for feats, the only feats I really want are more racial feats, I personally think that every playable race should get at least 10.
SheepishEidolon |
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I'd buy any RPG line book, even a Bestiary 7 that only consists of reprints. But I'd be quite picky when it comes to Player Companions, Campaign Settings and Adventure Paths. I'd like more among the lines of:
Chronicle of Legends: explored new interesting options like a trait-heavy character or alternate capstones
Martial Arts Handbook: showed that there is still room for new ways of martial combat
Antihero's Handbook: gave great advice on how to play a protagonist of a different type
Nidal, Land of Shadows: offered a flavorful description of an exotic area
First World, Realm of the Fey: even a tad better than the Nidal book
Strange Aeons: IMO the latest amazing AP, with an unusal setting, strong flavor and interesting NPCs (I'm actually indifferent to Lovecraft)
Neriathale |
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Yes.
I want more settings.books for the bits of the world that haven’t been done yet, like Casmaron and Tian Xia.
More stan alone modules
There was some interesting equipment in 3.5 - sets of clothing that increased bonuses the more of them you had, Weapon crystals, ‘Quality of life’ items. I’d like to see those sorts of things for PF
An alternate crafting system for mundane and alchemical items that doesn’t take forever.
shaventalz |
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I'd like to say yes, but...
My main avenue for using PF1 content was through PFS. Considering their "issues" with sanctioning and the dying of local PFS1e play, I don't imagine that I would actually use it. Furthermore, their content seemed to get worse later in PF1's life (editing, balance, and general usefullness.)
The best I can say is maybe.
Darigaaz the Igniter |
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If Paizo made more 1e products( yeah I know "and monkeys might fly out of my butt"), but if it actual happened, would you buy them?
It'd depend on the content and quality of the product, but for now I'd give an enthusiastic YES
Also would you be more interested in mostly new, roughly 50/50 new and reprints, or mostly reprints/updated stuff?
I'd like a mix of new rulebooks as well as compilation books (complete classes, ultimate equipment II, advanced race guide II, etc)
CorvusMask |
Hypotethically yes because currently I'm buying all paizo products :p But in practice I'd be angry since I was happy about finally having end goal for my collection plus I much prefer 2e in practice. Doesn't help that I'm slowly gaining burn out on 1e due to high level AP shenanigans making me feel like my prep is wasted.
...Hey, SOMEONE had to say no ;P I still have goal of running every 1e ap, I can't run them all if you keep making more of them!
(also I agree with post where lot of late 1e edition content was really rough. Sure they did end on high note, but "another core rule book with super niche feats nobody ever picks" really tired me out. I'm bit confused though by notion of wanting 1e setting books because umm.. Setting books are relatively system neutral and I don't think most people bought them for mechanics anyway, is this about a principle of it?)
..But yeah, I also get feeling that 3rd party 1e products would likely be more higher quality if paizo was forced to go back to 1e. I mean, if they wanted to continue working on 1e forever, they'd have done so. So I believe you are more likely to find quality 1e content from 3rd party publishers who still create more of them
(my crankiness aside, I do actually agree that I wouldn't mind reprint books at least if they came with errata :p Having books that collect different ap article mechanical options or monsters in one book and errata'd them would be nice)
Neriathale |
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Setting books are relatively system neutral and I don't think most people bought them for mechanics anyway, is this about a principle of it?)
I’ve only played a small amount of 2e and my experiences were so bad that I don’t want to try again, but my perception from having read some of the setting books is that there has been a shift in the overall flavour of the world and how it is presented in books. I preferred the old style, which seemed you could have broad humour next door to gothic horror, whereas the new version is trying to be more consistent, but in the process has lost some of the ‘Golarion-ness’ that I love.
I’m also a text person rather than a picture person, and my impression is that 2e rulebooks/sourcebooks have swung the other way, with more art and less words. So reading them makes me feel vaguely cheated, because it gives the impression that some of the information has been cut to add in pretty pictures.
CorvusMask |
Umm. Well if you say so, I haven't gotten that impression on either of things you stated. I'm pretty sure there are actually more pages and thus more words than in old campaign setting book. Sad to hear your attempt to try it out didn't go well though.
Still I'd assume that perhaps the Mwangi Expanse book might be more up to your alley? If what you are looking for is strong focus on one type of flavor which I don't think any of books so far would have due to being about the "inner sea in general"
Ryan Freire |
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Umm. Well if you say so, I haven't gotten that impression on either of things you stated. I'm pretty sure there are actually more pages and thus more words than in old campaign setting book. Sad to hear your attempt to try it out didn't go well though.
I mean...they took a -cha race and turned it into + cha kender for one.
PFRPGrognard |
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If they just offered PF1 versions of the new adventures, I'd buy them all. As it is, I haven't purchased a Paizo product since Heroes of Golarion. I've thought about buying some of the Lost Omens books, but since the adventures I have don't deal with them and Paizo is giving me no other incentive to buy from them, I haven't felt the urge to buy into Lost Omens. A few crafty third party publishers have been offering PF1 content, adventures, and settings every month, so I give them my money instead.
CorvusMask |
CorvusMask wrote:I mean...they took a -cha race and turned it into + cha kender for one.Umm. Well if you say so, I haven't gotten that impression on either of things you stated. I'm pretty sure there are actually more pages and thus more words than in old campaign setting book. Sad to hear your attempt to try it out didn't go well though.
I think your complain would be more valid if you said small sized dex/cha+ ;D But seriously, goblins having wisdom penalty makes more sense than charisma to me due to all the singing and ridiculous antics. Either way, doesn't make them kender since goblins don't come with "Oh, but you gotta love those kenders for borrowing your items! Aren't they rascals" text.
(that said I agree that goblins being common instead of uncommon makes no sense considering that I believe tengu should be common instead ;P I would have rather had orcs as new core ancestry than goblins)
Ryan Freire |
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Ryan Freire wrote:CorvusMask wrote:I mean...they took a -cha race and turned it into + cha kender for one.Umm. Well if you say so, I haven't gotten that impression on either of things you stated. I'm pretty sure there are actually more pages and thus more words than in old campaign setting book. Sad to hear your attempt to try it out didn't go well though.
I think your complain would be more valid if you said small sized dex/cha+ ;D But seriously, goblins having wisdom penalty makes more sense than charisma to me due to all the singing and ridiculous antics. Either way, doesn't make them kender since goblins don't come with "Oh, but you gotta love those kenders for borrowing your items! Aren't they rascals" text.
(that said I agree that goblins being common instead of uncommon makes no sense considering that I believe tengu should be common instead ;P I would have rather had orcs as new core ancestry than goblins)
Or hobgoblin since they went and gave them their own nations and they have an entire edition of being known for working for/with other humanoids, vs how goblins were portrayed all edition long.
But yes, also yet another + cha race as though small = cute. Could have just as easily been dex/int for all that twisted cunning they spent pages writing about.
gnoams |
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Nope.
I enjoy pathfinder 1 and play games of it regularly every week, but I already have everything to play it I could want. I stopped purchasing pf1 material years before pf1 stopped being published. I wish the folks at Paizo all the best, and completely understand why they made a new edition. I will continue playing pf1 for many years to come, and check back in when they release pf3.
OmniMage |
I'm in the meh camp... I don't have all the books. I haven't finished reading the ones that I do have. I might not pick up any new books. It would depend on whether the topic interests me or not. I happen to be more interested in other RPGs right now.
If there were any books on crafting magic items and customizing them, I would be interested. Crafting magic items hasn't had many updates since they were first released in DND 3.0. A shame because I like customizing my gear, but there is little support for that.
Alzrius |
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If Paizo made more 1e products( yeah I know "and monkeys might fly out of my butt"), but if it actual happened, would you buy them?
Yes. I'm still eagerly awaiting the Kingmaker Bestiary for PF1E.
Also would you be more interested in mostly new, roughly 50/50 new and reprints, or mostly reprints/updated stuff?
Mostly new. I already have the majority of the old stuff, and I'm in the midst of tracking down what I don't already have.
ErichAD |
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I'd love to say yes to show my support for PF1, but I don't think that's true.
Nothing physical, and nothing as inflexible as a pdf. I'm also not entirely sure the current team has the same design goals that made the original PF1 something I like.
But, all that aside, I'd pay money toward a project to complete the roll20 PF1 compendium. I'd support a "complete bestiary art assets" project for illustrations and icons for everything they've created to be made freely available; though I'm not inspired by the direction PF2's art direction took, so I'd still wait and see on the project. I'd support an online interactive atlas of Golarion, sort of like this but with a more professional look and better optimized. I'd also support an online project that inserted the full text for identical abilities rather than referencing some other thing in their rules entry.
But a book? No, probably not.
Ryan Freire |
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I'd love to say yes to show my support for PF1, but I don't think that's true.
Nothing physical, and nothing as inflexible as a pdf. I'm also not entirely sure the current team has the same design goals that made the original PF1 something I like.But, all that aside, I'd pay money toward a project to complete the roll20 PF1 compendium. I'd support a "complete bestiary art assets" project for illustrations and icons for everything they've created to be made freely available; though I'm not inspired by the direction PF2's art direction took, so I'd still wait and see on the project. I'd support an online interactive atlas of Golarion, sort of like this but with a more professional look and better optimized. I'd also support an online project that inserted the full text for identical abilities rather than referencing some other thing in their rules entry.
But a book? No, probably not.
I'd pay for a 1.5 pass over the rules, a condensation of the feat trees and a reworking of old content to take new content and design philosophies into account. (Like all of the old fighter archetypes removing weapon and/or armor training, with the new archetypes balancing those choices between one or the other and bonus feats/bravery)
I'd like a core book to include a visual combat flowchart and sub charts for maneuvers (grapple in particular). Seems like almost every rpg ive encountered eventually has to flowchart some option put out and itd be nice to just have it included in the core book from the get go.
Dragon78 |
The only problems I have with Ultimate Wilderness is the Shifter and most of it's archetypes. I still like the book better then Ultimate Intrigue and Horror Adventures. But I agree that if anything else was made that the quality should be more like the Advanced Players Guide, Advanced Races Guide, Occult Adventures, etc.
A lot of people are saying "if the quality is there" they will buy, personally that goes without saying;)
ShadowcatX |
Probably not. I haven't kept up with their releases for years anyways. If they released a campaign setting that wasn't Golarion, maybe. Or if they released support for words of power or spheres / akashic then maybe again. But if its just another half a dozen classes, 50 spells and 10 feats, no thanks.