Do you double pinky swear that, Liz?
I can't wait to find out what else will be in this book, other then the ten new classes.
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Do you double pinky swear that, Liz?
Yes.
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Advanced Class Guide doesn't release until GenCon, so there's roughly 12 weeks of potential preview blogs. :)
We won't.Hopefully they will update the art for the cover before then.Hard to say, hopefully, they won't forget to do so until one week before release...
Hwhahhhhahaha!
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Swashbuckler and...I'm guessing Shaman, fighting some kind of acidic and/or undead dragon. Neat.
So the Iconics we know so far are....
Half-elf (F) Swashbuckler
Half-orc (M) Warpriest
Human (Shoanti) (M) Bloodrager(?)
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Variant class abilities intrigue me....
EDIT: Does that mean variant class abilities are something completely different from archetypes?
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NICE cover ;)
Wind shaman, perhaps?
What's wrong with the cover? I like it.
...Mutagenic Mauler? A new and improved Ragechemist, perhaps?
Can't wait for previews to start on this.
The lightning effect definitely made me think Bloodrager, but I'm guessing that hammer is an Earthbreaker?
The warpriest is a half orc, and is on the cover of the RPG free module.
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Mikaaaaze, we got's us a Shoanti icoooooonic :D
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I can't seem to load the full image.
Unless....you did that on purpose!?
You monster! The gods will never forgive you for this!
EDIT: Nope, apparently you're not that maniacal. Just loading issues. But what were you neenering for?
I can see the whole thing.
Maybe try clearing your cache?
Nice cover.
The Bloodrager looks like an actor I remember from some 80's movies like weird science, the original hills have eyes part 1 and 2, star trek IV, etc.
Man I would have loved a female catfolk or female pixie swashbuckler iconic.
the dragon's a ravener btw. CANNOT WAIT!!!
Cover image and description updated to final.
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I can't seem to load the full image.
Unless....you did that on purpose!?
You monster! The gods will never forgive you for this!
EDIT: Nope, apparently you're not that maniacal. Just loading issues. But what were you neenering for?
I believe that was in reference to the fact that people were talking about the odds of Liz forgetting to update the product info/cover until just before release
I believe that was in reference to the fact that people were talking about the odds of Liz forgetting to update the product info/cover until just before releaseCover image and description updated to final.
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I can't seem to load the full image.
Unless....you did that on purpose!?
You monster! The gods will never forgive you for this!
EDIT: Nope, apparently you're not that maniacal. Just loading issues. But what were you neenering for?
My comment was a reference to Player Companion: Alchemy Manual... but I don't know the reasons for the late update of that one.
Ahh, looks so good! Can... not... wait!
Awesome cover! The description isn't too shabby either :)
I'm not sure if the description changed from before, but I find it interesting that it just calls the new classes "base classes" and the word "hybrid" is nowhere to be seen. Has the whole "hybrid/alternate class" thing been scrapped, along with the multiclass restrictions it included? Kind of like how the gunslinger became its own class instead of an alternate fighter by the time the final version of Ultimate Combat came out? That'd be nice. I'm really looking forward to this book.
I'm not sure if the description changed from before, but I find it interesting that it just calls the new classes "base classes" and the word "hybrid" is nowhere to be seen. Has the whole "hybrid/alternate class" thing been scrapped, along with the multiclass restrictions it included? Kind of like how the gunslinger became its own class instead of an alternate fighter by the time the final version of Ultimate Combat came out? That'd be nice. I'm really looking forward to this book.
i caught that too, sooo excited!
I was under the impression that "base class" just meant "20th level class released after the Core Rulebook".
I was under the impression that "base class" just meant "20th level class released after the Core Rulebook".
You're sort of right.
A "Base" class is any 20-level class that you can immediately enter without any prerequisites.
A "Core" class is a base class that was introduced in the Core Rulebook.
An "Alternate" class is essentially an archetype of a base class that has enough conceptual changes to warrant its own entry, artwork, and class table. Because it is an archetype, you cannot multiclass an alternate class its with associated base class.
A "Hybrid" class was essentially an Alternate class that acted as an archetype of two classes simultaneously.
The wordage used by the description seems to imply that Hybrid classes aren't a thing anymore, and Jason certainly hinted that such a change could happen during development. Personally, I think if a class concept like a "summoner" warrants its own base class then so does any of the classes presented in this book, so this is a welcome announcement if its true. We'll have to wait for Stephen or Jason to chime in before anything's certain however.
Sean's data cores weren't expunged the moment he left Paizo. He still might know!
If the Arcanist ended up keeping it's Bloodline Development and School Understanding exploits I wonder if we'll see greater exploit upgrades to them (aka allowing them to further develop their bloodline powers or arcane school abilities). That definitely has some major appeal. ^_^
If the Arcanist ended up keeping it's Bloodline Development and School Understanding exploits I wonder if we'll see greater exploit upgrades to them (aka allowing them to further develop their bloodline powers or arcane school abilities). That definitely has some major appeal. ^_^
If these aren't considered hybrids any longer and can be multiclassed with their "parent" classes, I wouldn't be surprised if those exploits changed to allow for additional improvements to the respective wizard and sorcerer abilities (though you'd be missing out on other cool options, but that's always the case with tradeoffs.)
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Sean's data cores weren't expunged the moment he left Paizo. He still might know!
I'm sure he does know, but considering he's no longer affiliated with the company the chances that he'd divulge sensitive company information are less than zero percent. Sean's a pretty honorable guy like that.
I just hope there is finally a swashbuckling archtype for for the magus in there that is not the sword saint(kensai).
I *really* want to see some Cavalier Panache considering that the person for whom the French word "panache" is named for was, in fact, a cavalier.
Pancho Villa?
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Pancho Villa?
Can't tell if you're joking or not. I'm going to assume that you're not.
Panache is a French word that literally translates as "plume," which is a large feather often worn in a cap. As Wikipedia will tell you:
The literal translation is a plume, such as is worn on a hat or a helmet, but the reference is to King Henry IV of France (13 December 1553 – 14 May 1610). Pleasure-loving and cynical, but a brave military leader and among the best-loved of the kings of France he was famed for wearing a striking white plume in his helmet and for his war cry: "Follow my white plume!" (French: "Ralliez-vous à mon panache blanc!").
This is the same King who's epitome was, "a chicken in every pot," the basis of which would later be adopted by FDR as part of the tagline for his New Deal legislation which ultimately helped to end the Great Depression in the United States.
Here are some lovely paintings as reference material.
Plus doesn't an Order of the Cockatrice cavalier with a panache mechanic just sound COOL?
I don't think if anyone noticed but, All of the Iconics have been revealed.
I don't think if anyone noticed but, All of the Iconics have been revealed.
Damn...wish the picture wasn't so blurry.
And REALLY hope the wolf is not related to the shaman :(
Looks good. I like the figure 4th from left in the back row in brown armor with the Shatterstar-esque headgear...
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Calling it, from left to right:
Looks good. I like the figure 4th from left in the back row in brown armor with the Shatterstar-esque headgear...
bwahahaha, you know what this means if they are standalone classes right?!? The Multiclass archetype cycle can likely be extended another few years. Let the bloodrager/arcanists and investigator/inquisitors commence!!!
Looks good. I like the figure 4th from left in the back row in brown armor with the Shatterstar-esque headgear...bwahahaha, you know what this means if they are standalone classes right?!? The Multiclass archetype cycle can likely be extended another few years. Let the bloodrager/arcanists and investigator/inquisitors commence!!!
** spoiler omitted **Looks good. I like the figure 4th from left in the back row in brown armor with the Shatterstar-esque headgear...bwahahaha, you know what this means if they are standalone classes right?!? The Multiclass archetype cycle can likely be extended another few years. Let the bloodrager/arcanists and investigator/inquisitors commence!!!
Dat Warpriest Greatsword :DI don't think if anyone noticed but, All of the Iconics have been revealed.
Do you think he (I guess it is a he, no idea) is overcompensating for something else?
Looks good. I like the figure 4th from left in the back row in brown armor with the Shatterstar-esque headgear...bwahahaha, you know what this means if they are standalone classes right?!? The Multiclass archetype cycle can likely be extended another few years. Let the bloodrager/arcanists and investigator/inquisitors commence!!!
Indeed! I've put placeholder headings on the wiki's Primary Class list. We just need the official rules to start.