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So on top of planning for a new war with Nex (and possibly other parts of Garund) Geb is now diplomatically approaching Absalom's leaders? Sounds like he wants to make sure the various powers of Avistan don't get involved in what he's plotting.


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Not gonna lie, I'm not fond of the artwork for either the requiem dragon or the despair dragon though I do like the concepts of them.


Elfteiroh wrote:

Well, at the very least, you have at least one wrong, as the remastered dragon closest to green is actually the Horned Dragon, as confirmed by paizo people around it's release in Monster Core.

Oh, and Empyreal have been confirmed NOT being a remastered gold dragon. (And having seen requiem in Monster Core 2, they have nothing to do with old bronze.)
I have also not heard of Dune, Gallant, nor Whimsy, ouside of some people trying to come up with names in Reddit posts.

Thank you for the corrections. ^^


James Jacobs wrote:
Those dragons already did this in the past, so the changes they made are already active and we don't know any different.

So no alternate timelines created by Time Dragons?

Hmmm...is there a monster in Pathfinder similar to the Thane Abomination of D&D in terms of temporal offensive abilities?


QuidEst wrote:
Easy thing to check is if there are any shared authors between this and Wayfinder #11 from 2014, since I don't think Paizo would use somebody's fan work without involving them or crediting. It doesn't look like there are any shared authors, so probably not those specific devils.

That's ok. There's always next time...after all...

*puts on sunglasses*
The devil is in the details...
...
...
...why are you all looking at me like that?


Any of those new Devils make appearences in Wayfinder already?


Maya Coleman wrote:
We're glad you like it, LoreMonger13! As a fan of purple scary things, I love them too!

One of these days you fine folks at Paizo are gonna have to tell us what the heck actually happens to the future if a Time Dragon goes back in time and changes something significant! Like, does everything in that future just undone (aka cease to exist, does it "BECOME" what it is in the new time stream, or does time travel follow multiverse theory in Pathfinder's setting?

TELL US YOUR SECRETS PAIZO! TELL US I SAYYYY! (starts gnawing on Paizo's leg) GGGAAAARRRRR!


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Maya Coleman wrote:
Though we won't be doing this, I'm sure a member of the community will!

Ask and thou shalt receive:

Cinder Dragon (Red)
Bog Dragon (Black)
Dune Dragon (Blue)
Rime Dragon (White)
Verdant Dragon (Green)

Empyreal Dragon (Gold)
Mocking Dragon (Copper)
Requiem Dragon (Bronze)
Gallant Dragon (Silver)
Whimsy Dragon (Brass)


I think this book would be the perfect opportunity to showcase some new Devils! I've always been very interested to see Paizo's official take on Wayfinder's Hellforge Devil, Addiction Devil, Physician Devil, Rumor Devil, and Seduction Devil! ^^


Are there any Angels in this book?

Any new types of Devils?


Theodora M. wrote:
Salthrun doesn't have an alignment, we've been converting to Remaster along the way with this AP. She's money-obsessed, but doesn't usually harm others unless they harm her family. That's Salthrun in the picture backing up her brother as we entered the fungi-filled tavern. We're preparing for our next marathon in a few days, so I'm transforming into Aunt Sally right now!

Ah, gotcha. I keep forgetting that alignment really isn't a thing anymore. I do gotta ask though, has the Order of the Amber Die ever used the alignment system from Palladium/Rifts Earth in any games they've done?

I've often found that system works a helluva lot better than the alignment system developed by D&D.

Was there any discussion of making use of the Inventor/Gunslinger classes for PC's? I've always loved the idea of a Dwarf making advantageous use of a steam-powered crank mini-gun. ;)


Adam Smith wrote:
Berselius wrote:
Any chance you can post your PC's basic stats (aka names, genders, ancestries, and classes)?
Sure! In this video I described some of the family tree, and you can see a sketch of the generations. I'll put the rest below.

Interesting. A bit curious why Jody went with a Alchemist/Toxicologist but I'm guessing that only helps with the brewing of beers and ales, heh. What alignment is Theodora's Champion of Dranngvit if I might ask?


Any chance you can post your PC's basic stats (aka names, genders, ancestries, and classes)?


Actually wondering which side Alain sided with in the war between Cheliax and Andoran?


Dragonchess Player wrote:

Paizo had a Starfinder 1e AP with a focus on cybernetically augmented fiends... Signal of Screams had a heavy dose of velstracs.

IIRC, velstracs were very much into augmentation tech as part of their "artistic" goals on flesh.

Saw that and am hoping we get even more species of fiends from the lower planes experimenting with cybernetic augmentation.

I mean, Hell has it's forges in Phlegethon where unsuitable souls are remade into something more desirable.

Maybe the Archdevils could decide to enlist the velstracs to experiment with something more technological via creating new Devils? ;)


LandSwordBear wrote:
Only if it ties into locations such as Phobos and Deimos and the first adventure is called “Knee Deep in the Dead”.

Well we know Earth's solar system is totally a thing in Pathfinder so maybe that's possible?


Kind of bold and a bit risky of Paizo to give Sarenrae, Iomedae, and Desna no mention in their 2e Starfinder Player's Core not gonna lie.


Anyone else think they'd like to play a 2e Starfinder Mega-Adventure focusing on combating malevolent forces producing cybernetically augmented fiends?


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Hoping we get some of the other Planar Dragons later after this (aka Apocalypse Dragon, Crypt Dragon, Paradise Dragon, etc etc).

Also hoping we might get some Gigas in this (aka Nirvana Gigas, Hell Gigas, Boneyard Gigas, Abaddon Gigas, Elysian Gigas, etc etc).


Akiton's modeled after Mars from Earth's solar system correct? Does it have any natural vegetation like forests or any water? I'm guessing it doesn't have any oceans but I'm wondering where the native life get their food and fresh water from (if they consume either)?


Dwarves, Elves, and Humans WORKING TOGETHER to slay a Diabolic Dragon? Very interesting!


Grimmyr is amazing and I love him as a character. My only complaint is that the jotunborn aren't an ancestry descended from Giants mingling with other species. I was kind of hoping we could get various subspecies representing various breeds of giant. :(


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Does anyone know if anyone has made a manual converting Pathfinder Celestials into 5th Edition D&D Monsters? If so, can anyone provide me a link or two?


Zoken44 wrote:
That said, I've said I'd like to see a book that focuses on the ancestries from Lost Golarion and how they've adapted to this future, where their populations centers are. and, like OP suggested, giving some updated ancestry feats to reflect how those ancestries developed in the intervening centuries/millennia.

I would like this very much as well!


So it makes use of the same ancestry feats as in Pathfinder 2nd ed? If so, do any of those feats need to be updated or slightly changed to fit with Starfinder 2nd ed?


I'm actually curious if we might get a manual focusing on religions and faiths of the Starfinder setting? I'd love to see how the faiths of Iomedae and others have adapted to an interstellar setting with high techology.


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Will the ancestry system for Pathfinder edition be used for Starfinder 2nd edition as well? If so, will we get ancestries from Pathfinder species like Dwarves, Halflings, and Elves (but with a modern Starfinder spin) as well as the typical ones? I ask as my girlfriend is interested in playing a female halfling mystic.


One quick question though? Will caster classes like Technomancer and Mystic have access to spell levels higher than 6th? I can understand the need to cut down on the sheer power 7th, 8th, 9th, and even 10th spell slots can give but maybe there might be a way to limit that (aka make 7th, 8th, and 9th spell slots usable only once a day and even 10th level spell slots a powerful ritual perhaps)?


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Would honestly LOVE some Technomancer abilities that simulate the abilities of Technomancers from Babylon 5! Summoning solid hologram monsters, electrocuting foes, and even having a protective forcefield all sound awesome!


Second funniest thing. One of our PC's who was a sorcerer had a arch rival (aka a male Hryngar wizard named Meznar). Meznar finally shows up much to the amusement of our sorcerer PC.

Meznar: Well look who we have here...the most pathetic excuse for a magic-user on all of Golarion...

Sorcerer PC: AWWWW LOOOK IT'S MEZNAR! DO YOU WANNA A BISCUIT BOY? DO YOU WANNA BISCUIT?

Meznar:...do you think I'm a DOG?

Sorcerer: HAVE A BISCUITTT! (throws dog biscuit into Meznar's face)

Yes this became a running gag and yes, we kept running into Meznar (including (but not limited to) his clones, his temporal variants, him during his childhood, during his old age in the future, Meznar after becoming a Devil, etc etc), and YES our sorcerer kept hitting him in the face with dog biscuits.

Our sorcerer is currently having a statue build in his honor in Magnimar and it's pretty him throwing a dog biscuit into Meznar's face. Results are expected to be hiliarious.


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What's the funniest thing your PC's ever did to a foe? I'll start:

My PC's spent days hunting down a minor vampire lord in Ustalav's capital city. It was a complete and utter pain as he was sending assassins, summoned fiends, and everything else he possibly could to kill us, all the while we were doing everthing we could to find fang face. We finally found out where his lair was and were incredibly annoyed as apparently it was underneath the first place we looked. So we choose daylight to venture down, encountering trap after trap, minion after minion, only to discover he was asleep in his coffin.

We were upset. We were annoyed. We were TIRED. So our bard used an paint brush artefact to write the words "Weasel Face" on his forehead just for the fun of it. Any words written with the brush are absolutely PERMANENT and can be read by anyone in the language they know best. Then we engaged him in combat...only for him to turn into mist and escape. We had to find him AGAIN but ironically this time he came to US! He attacked the Inn we were at during the night with a band of his remaining minions and he...was...ANGRY! He couldn't figure out why everyone he knew kept laughing at him. We didn't the heart to tell him. Heh.


(The magical ice linnorm hide armor of the mighty human barbarian Rothgar the Mighty stretches thin as his muscular arms strain to lift up the mighty artefact hammer "Stormbringer" yet the hammer does not budge)

Armored War Ogre: Hahahaha! Puny man can't even pick up hammer!

Rothgar: IF ROTHGAR CANNOT HIT YOU WITH HAMMER THEN ROTHGAR SHALL HIT HAMMER WITH YOUUUUU!

(Rothgar grabs a completely surprised Ogre, lifts the monster up, then proceeds to repeatedly BASH it's deformed skull against Stormbringer over and over again)


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Wait, did Iblydos manage to kill that Thalassic Behemoth that the gods sent to punish them for creating (and relying on) hero-gods out of mortals?

Also, quick side note, we gonna get Behemoths back someday in 2nd ed Pathfinder Paizo? No rush of course, just askin. ;)


Powers128 wrote:
Yeah I feel like some of the themes are conflicted. She refuses the lessons of harnessing her anger and aggression but ends up becoming monsterous anyways. She fights for the helpless but is also cruel and kills for money. Maybe that's supposed to be part of the tragedy but I'm not feeling it. She's kinda just a hypocrite

Honestly I'm getting the sense that she fights for the sake of fighting. She's literally a mercenary for the sake of war itself. I get the fleeting Szuriel would absolutely LOVE this iconic.


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Orikkro wrote:
The art of Ulka screams troll at me not orc. Arms longer then legs like a gorilla. Neck just slides into the arms with no shoulders.

I actually agree with you and this might get me some hate but I gotta say I'm not exactly a huge fan of the artist's interpertation of a female Orc. The body proportions are all...off...to say the least.


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But does she fight, slaughter, and leave orphans in her wake for a cause or simply for the glitter of gold? If it's the later, she might find herself facing the vengeance of some of her victims one day and death might not be as kind as it has been before...


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I just wanted to give a brief thank you to the entire staff of Paizo.com and everyone who has ever worked for them. As much as I love certain tabletop rpg companies, I've found that I have had a significantly more pleasant experience with your company and it's community.

Your staff is willing to be contacted and to let problems be heard so they can be addressed and possibly fixed. Not to mention that your website still has active Forums that we can post in. Lastly, your tabletop rpg company was one of the first to embrace the LGBTQ+ community as well as celebrate other ethnicites and even produce content from all of them!

So thank you Paizo. Merci beaucoup!


Hey, there was a really amazing webpage done on Paizo.com showcasing all the current iconics of the time summerizing their beginnings and origins in a short rhyming paragraph each. One problem: I can't find! :( I'm not sure what iconic started it or what the article was titled but it ended with Lem doing a rhyming summary with the final sentences of all the other iconics. Can anyone help me find it?

Also my apologies in advance if I'm posting this in the wrong forum. If I am I shall proceed to hide in the couch fort of SHAME!


Whoever predicted that the Chelexians are preparing giant battle constructs with the Warshards of Gorum's dead corpse as power sources, you may be more on the money than you KNOW! o_o


Squark wrote:
Per the scenario description, Varian was out of the country at the time.

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume Varian and Radovan are either in hiding from infernal assassins or in exile (or both)...


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Wait, Queen Abrogail Thrune II with Mythic Power is frightening enough...what if Gorthoklek gets mythic power? Could he ascend to become a mythic Tyrant Devil or (Inheritor forbid) a INFERNAL DUKE? o_o


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The Raven Black wrote:
Warshards-powered Hellknight mecha/armor FTW !!!

Queen Abrogail Thrune II: HELL KNIGHTS! TRANSFORM AND COMBINE! FORM THE MECHA KNIGHT!


Wait, Greensteeples Manor was looted and burnt to the ground? Hopefully Varian Jeggar and Radovan Virholt are canonically still alive. :(

Looks like confrontation with Queen Abrogail Thrune II and her two infernal aids Gorthoklek and Lrilatha is inevitable. What really concerns me is Abrogail's continued searching (and acquiring) of Gorum's remains. I shudder to think what a sadistic power hungry infernal sorceress who rules a nation and treats will Devils would do with mythic power! o_o


Cori Marie wrote:
Oh god my game is in the blog. I guess it's really real now. Excited to bring my own take on Bastardhall back to its Paizocon roots.

I continue to hope that one spooktacular Halloween night Paizo will release a Bastardhall super dungeon adventure for all of us to enjoy!


Would there be any 3rd party Dhampir feats for allowing a Dhampir to do the following:

Assume a swarm form of Bats for a small amount of time.

Assume gaseous form for a small amount of time.

Granting a slightly faster movement speed.


Are there any rules (official or 3rd party) that allow for undead parasitic symbiotes that give abilities like extra spellcasting and which grow in power as the host grows in power? I ask as I have a PC who wants to play a crimson haired female Dhampir Thamaturge with an parasitic symbiote hand (aka somewhat similar to Vampire Hunter D).


Honestly? I think we're pretty much covered in terms of possible ancestries. I think what we need now is some more Ancestry Feats.


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Is it just me or is this adventure plot somewhat similar to Second Darkness (except instead of the Drow (who aren't Pathfinder cannon anymore right?) now it's vampires correct?)?


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Oh I fully expect that there is an insane race for all the powers of Golarion great and small to collect the Godshards of Gorum's corpse. However we still don't know the Decemvirate's overall goals nor do we know why those ten masked individuals occasionally purge their most talented venture-captains. The Pathfinder Society has acquired a colossal (and some might even say a dangerous) amount of knowledge, treasure, and magical items (and artifacts) and we're still not sure of the ultimate purpose for doing so.

Also Abrogail Thrune the II with MYTHIC POWER? Now that's a terrifying concept! Considering we'll be getting a war between the infernal empire of Cheliax and freedom-loving Andoran, I'm fully expecting the Godshards to come into play sooner or later.


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Am I the only one who is a tiny bit nervous about the Pathfinder Society collecting the broken pieces of a dead God? o_o

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