[OPVI] PF2e B12 - Somewhere Below (P7) (Inactive)

Game Master UncleFroggy

Keep playing Ashun! The remaster is coming and you can easily retrain bits that you don't like. By all means build the other characters, but I would like for most of this group to keep leveling so that we can all go on to higher level adventures.

Oh, I adore him and would love to keep going

Also!
I didn't know about the remaster/witch remake up til a few hours ago. I'm quite anxious! (the good kind of anxious)

So the slides link and RPGChronicles link are updated. People can sign up when they have decided what character they will be playing.

Save some money for winter clothing. Your next destination is cold!

Ashun wrote:

I can also make a new character if needed. I got a whole bunch of ideas I'd like to try out.

Keep playing Ashun! The remaster is coming and you can easily retrain bits that you don't like. By all means build the other characters, but I would like for most of this group to keep leveling so that we can all go on to higher level adventures.

Yeah, I would agree with that. Most of us are getting to level 3 now. Those that aren't will be shortly.

Dropping in a level 1 character would be challenging.

Plus, we all like Ashun as a character.

The remaster looks like it has all sorts of goodness for the witch. I am really looking forward to learning more about it.

I don't think there's anything I'd like to re-do in Ashun, I'm quite content with him as is... I'll have to check after the rework. Maybe change certain bonuses since I know a little bit more about crafting now.

But, for now
I think I'm gonna go with Crafting Expert and Magical Crafting for level 3.
I don't know which formulas to pick yet, but crafting a weighted self-heating blanky for this next adventure might be useful.

ok, I think I've leveled everything for Ashun?
For Magical Crafting, I went with Weapon Potency Rune +1, Feather Token (Holly Bush), 1st-level Scroll, Owlbear Claw.

Will probably try craft a bunch of talismans for everyone in the future.

I'm considering swapping out Konbu for Ami. She's just about finished 2-Q14 The Swordlord's challenge and is also third level.

I'm considering swapping out Konbu for Ami. She's just about finished 2-Q14 The Swordlord's challenge and is also third level.

More Gnomes. Woo.

Ironic how the youngest of the bunch is the tallest.

More Gnomes. Woo.

I think I've read a story about a tall young damsel and a group of small but strong fantasy people of the same ancestry somewhere... Hmmmm...

[...]the youngest of the bunch[...]

Speaking of which, I have to define/calc when it's Ashun's birthday sometime. Might be sooner than I thought.

Or get ourselves a 1930's Rolls-Royce to travel around in.

For Magical Crafting, I went with Weapon Potency Rune +1, Feather Token (Holly Bush), 1st-level Scroll, Owlbear Claw.

You are only going to want a very limited number of Weapon Potency Runes.

You want something that you will be making multiple of. Have you considered Shining Ammunition?

It isn’t a huge deal since you can buy more formulas, just something to think about.

Or get ourselves a 1930's Rolls-Royce to travel around in.

Well well well... It seems like I need to start learning some mechanical crafting now.

You are only going to want a very limited number of Weapon Potency Runes.

I don't know how efficient Runes are at higher levels, but why limit them?

Branch Barker wrote:

You are only going to want a very limited number of Weapon Potency Runes.

I don't know how efficient Runes are at higher levels, but why limit them?

And I saw Shining Ammunition and was tempted, but there isn't much ranged happening for this party right now.

I think the idea is it is the because in PFS you can craft equipment for yourself (aside items you might lend to others). So while weapon potency runes are something nearly every character has, you might not craft more than one rune for yourself as opposed to consumables.

Also I do believe Crafting rules are changing as well in the new Core rules. From my reading the requirements for needing common formulas are reduced. I'm not sure if those rules will be implemented in PFS though.

[...]you might not craft more than one rune for yourself as opposed to consumables.

Oh! That makes sense.

Once the new Core comes out, does anyone know if we're going to need ACP boons to rebuild our PCs?

PFS Remaster announcement.

From clarifications in the comments: You get one free rebuild for characters that already exist and have been played at least once before the street date of the Remaster. But each character only gets one free rebuild boon that has to cover both Core books. So my Swashbuckler is going to sit on the rebuild until Player Core 2 comes out.

We are still waiting for the final version of the PFS rules as well.

I expect crafting will become simpler. As I understand it, the new rules only require 2 days prep for crafting, 1 day if you have the formula.

I don’t have the Remaster books so I can’t verify what the actual rules will be.

So I only see four people signed up in RPGChronicles so far. If the last two would sign up, we could start.

I'm still waiting for Ami's Chronicle which should be in a few days. I'll do that when it arrives.

If we have a couple IRL days before starting the next scenario, how about hanging out at the lodge for a bit. Maybe it is time to see if Bitty is really going to murder Macondi...

I'm in

Is exploding a familiar, evil?

Is exploding a familiar, evil?

Yes (IIRC). You can explode a minion (e.g. from Animate Dead). Are you thinking of Final Sacrifice? :)

Are you thinking of Final Sacrifice? >:)

mlem!?

I would never. Bea is too precious.

I was just curious because that's a lot of damage, since the witch's familiar just "respawns" the next day.
Not many interesting 2nd level spells for Ashun. So I went with Warrior's Regret and Comprehend Language.

Is exploding a familiar, evil?

Did someone find Final Sacrifice?

Not having your familiar means that you can't refocus. Depending on how important your focus points are that may or may not be a problem.

Whether exploding your familiar is evil or not is between you and your patron.

I really wish I had a fun focus spell, but I'm content with just the normal spells I have. So I don't have a use for focus points for now.

And I saw Final Sacrifice a couple of days ago, but only got curious about the evil trait now.
And given my headcanon (which Ashun doesn't know?), it would make my patron very very very grumpy. So I guess it is considered evil.

I really wish I had a fun focus spell, but I'm content with just the normal spells I have. So I don't have a use for focus points for now.

And I saw Final Sacrifice a couple of days ago, but only got curious about the evil trait now.
And given my headcanon (which Ashun doesn't know?), it would make my patron very very very grumpy. So I guess it is considered evil.

I've used it. Does a lot of damage... :)

In a high tier 04-01, I used that and blasted Aslynn into shadowstuff... :)

Sounds very fun and I can't say Bea won't force me to do the same.

Final Sacrifice

2nd sentence of the 2nd paragraph -- if you explode a creature that's not mindless, it has the evil trait :)

Yeah, that's where the question came from. Of how un-mindless[?] is a familiar.
But my guess is that it doesn't have a boolean answer. Just as evil isn't all black and white.

Q14 at high tier is murder... Ami and I (playing with my 4th level alchemist) almost had our heads handed to us...

Still waiting for Ami to sign in before we begin. I assume they are still waiting on their chronicle.

I really wish I knew how to write more formal/"ye olde", almost butler-ish, to better rp Ash in these situations.

Everyone is signed in now.

It is late here, so I will be starting the adventure tomorrow.

Random question
I know you can't exactly have a "minion army" because you can only have one minion at a time, but can I have like, 42 onyx dogs active?
I am not seeing anywhere I can't, but maybe there's a rule I don't know.

I mean, yeah, sure, even if you can only command one at a time, having a K9 battalion for 6 hours is going to slow down the session by a lot, but I'm curious.

Nothing I can find in the rules. Other than the price cost and the action cost.

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And I am not really expecting things in-game to devolve into physical combat. That is just Bee trying to goad people into it because he would find it entertaining.

Same.
I just imagine a cartoon fight where they just get bandaids and are ok the next scene.

"We grew up together! You're my brother's best friend!" Suddenly, Bitty deflates, and her draconic tail droops.

"I thought you were mine, too."

GAK! That's not what I was expecting!! :)

This is Egg and Bea right now and nothing will prove me wrong

Random question

I know you can't exactly have a "minion army" because you can only have one minion at a time, but can I have like, 42 onyx dogs active?
I am not seeing anywhere I can't, but maybe there's a rule I don't know.

I mean, yeah, sure, even if you can only command one at a time, having a K9 battalion for 6 hours is going to slow down the session by a lot, but I'm curious.

So the actual limit is on the number of active pawns / tokens on the map for a battle.

Pawns: In Encounter Mode, each PC is represented by a pawn. Each other creature controlled by a PC whose location outside their PC's square affects the encounter is also represented by a pawn. No PC can place more than 2 pawns per adventure including their own. Temporary creatures who last no more than an encounter or two do not count toward this limit. Creatures who stay in their owner's square during encounter mode do not require pawns.

This is done so that one player doesn’t flood the map with creatures.

Although someone could argue that the Onyx dog is a temporary creature, doing something like activating multiple of them is likely to be rejected by a GM as against the maximum number of pawns. For the specific case of Onyx Dog, the figurine stays around for six hours. That is going to be more than two encounters for most adventures.

Don’t do this.

Even if it is within the rules, doing so would eventually result in a change to the rules and likely some grumpy volunteers that have to figure out a way to reword it to cover this edge case. It is hard enough as it is to create clear and concise wording.

Oh, I know
I would never do something like that.
I've been DMing for almost 8 years or so, so I know how awful that'd be.

I was just curious on the rulings. And that helps a lot, thanks!

This is Egg and Bea right now and nothing will prove me wrong

So that is what 'Mlem!' sounds like! Adorable!

Ashun wrote:

This is Egg and Bea right now and nothing will prove me wrong

So that is what 'Mlem!' sounds like! Adorable!

AGREED!! :)

Thanks to my fellow gnomes for playing along with the conical hats. :)

PSA FROM EGG

"Chirrrrrp!"

I just realized that Bitty hadn't updated the macros when she leveled. They are updated now.

Everyone, if you haven't updated your macros yet now is a good time!

Does anyone already have the healer's tools or repair kit?

I know Branch was using healer's tools, but Branch isn't currently with us.

If no one has medicine trained, healer’s tools may not help much.

If no one is trained in Crafting, a repair kit will not help.

The list is very generic. Do not treat every item listed as required for the adventure.

Ashun is trained in Medicine and expert in Crafting.
I'll probably get expert in Medicine next too.

Yeah, I am picking up the hatchet because it is 4 sp. Which is pretty trivial at this level.

If Ashun wants the repair kit generally, it would be good to get and you might as well get it now. I'm not going to pressure you into getting it though.

I think Ashun already has the Healer's Tools. Not sure about anyone else.