TOZ's Passing the Torch (Inactive)

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Hamish Carmody O'Toole wrote:

Oh... that's what the wierd assassin image things do.

Was thinking it some sort of mirror image type of thing... but this is cooler.

Though if she had a choice, I'd have gone for one of the assassin/illusions that was not inside the sirocco! =)

It wouldn’t have saved her from making the save and it would have given Bombshell line of effect.

She has so many options but they all cost swift/immediate actions. Makes it fair I suppose.


I was really expecting her to have at least Resist Energy Fire up. This is good. :-)

If Bombshell doesn't post today do you plan on having him delay or bot him? The game does not have to move at a blazing pace but it does need some forward momentum.

Her using Immediate actions means that she cannot cast quickened spells. This is a good thing.


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Yep, keeping the pressure on her to spend her immediates prevents those double whammies. :)

Given the holiday, I’m being lenient on the posting gap. We can reevaluate once part one is done.

The Exchange

Gnome Grenadier 11/Master Chymist 2 | AC: 24+11 (15+2 T, 21+10 FF) | HP: 122 /122 | BAB: +10/+5 | F:+18+2, R:+17+3, W:+14+2, +2 v Fear & Despair | Init:+6 | CMB +7, CMD 22
Resources:
Flight 11/ 11 | Boots: 10/10 | Bombs: 20/ 26 | Extracts: |
Buffs:
Cognatogen, Freedom of Mvmt, Barkskin, Absorb Toxicity, See Invisibility, Stoneskin CL15, Heroism CL5, Shield, Ill of Calm, Red Person 12min, EH avail, Re-roll avail
Conditions:
Grandmaster TOZ wrote:
Is anyone else leveling up after this scenario? It might change the APL calculations if so.

My apologies. Several family emergencies popped up over what should have been a relaxing holiday weekend. Thanks for the bot.

Crazy Hairy will be level 13 if he gains 1XP for this scenario.


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Sorry I didn’t wait a bit longer! No worries about the delay, I expected the slowdown a bit.

It looks like we will remain solidly APL 13 for part two, making that nice and easy.

Dark Archive

Cleric (evangelist) 13 | HP: 120 |AC: 25/ FF 23/ T 14 | Fort: +16 Ref: +11 Will: +20| Perception: +21| Init: +4

That triggers my readied action, right? I can wait until the rest gets resolved, of course.


@Crazy - Nice to see you back. :)

@Kasimir - The entire place is under a Hallow effect with dimensional anchor as the spell effect that is why dimension door/ethereal jaunt did not work. At least that is my understanding of the situation.

@Grandmaster TOZ - I am bit unclear about your statement about provoking. Are you saying that regardless of how many threatened squares you leave that you only trigger one attack of opportunity per round of movement?


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Kasimir, that is correct, I meant to mention it and forgot. If you prefer not to take the readied action your initiative will not change.

Rokgurn, the misconception is that every 5 feet traveled provokes, which is understandable given the wording. The clarification is that each movement is a single opportunity, not a series of multiple opportunities. So each foe only gets one AoO for the movement provoking.


I would love to see that clarification in writing so I can quote it to the many GMs that disagree with you. :-)

Liberty's Edge

CG Half-Elf Summoner 13

Most hallow effects only effect non-worshippers.
So I'd wager the priestess lady could still use extradimensional things in here.

And ya, the GM is correct on the provoking for movement thing. Only once for a given action (that action being the move).


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I think it was a FAQ in 3.5 and they updated the language when writing Pathfinder.

Combat Reflexes and Additional Attacks of Opportunity wrote:
If you have the Combat Reflexes feat, you can add your Dexterity bonus to the number of attacks of opportunity you can make in a round. This feat does not let you make more than one attack for a given opportunity, but if the same opponent provokes two attacks of opportunity from you, you could make two separate attacks of opportunity (since each one represents a different opportunity). Moving out of more than one square threatened by the same opponent in the same round doesn't count as more than one opportunity for that opponent. All these attacks are at your full normal attack bonus.

Liberty's Edge

CG Half-Elf Summoner 13
From the Combat Chapter under Making An Attack of Opportunity wrote:
Moving out of more than one square threatened by the same opponent in the same round doesn't count as more than one opportunity for that opponent.

Edit: Oop! Ninja'd by the Gm!


CRB p.180 Thank you as it is hard to argue with a rule baked right into the game. This is good stuff to know. :)

Edit - Thanks to both GMs.


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No problem, it has been a constant question over the years, even when I played 3.5. Maybe it was less clear in 3.0, not sure.

Liberty's Edge

CG Half-Elf Summoner 13

does her move provoke from bombshell too?
I notice he/she is wearing a cestus.


^Sure you never know when 1 point of non-lethal damage will make the difference. ;)


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I missed that on her sheet, Bombshell would also get an attack.

Dark Archive

Cleric (evangelist) 13 | HP: 120 |AC: 25/ FF 23/ T 14 | Fort: +16 Ref: +11 Will: +20| Perception: +21| Init: +4

Should I move in the initiative order? It would be nice to go before she does, I admit.


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Right, sorry!


On Hiatus

Yuri, since Dazing Assault has the same wording as Power Attack I would rule it could be activated on the AoO.

Liberty's Edge

Medium Male CG Dwarf Barbarian (chained) 12/Fighter 3 | HP 175/175 (raging 235/235) | AC 23 (raging 25) T 13 (11) FF 21 (23) | CMB +23 (26), CMD 39 (40) +3 vs Sunder, +4 vs Bull Rush & Trip| F +22 (26), R +12, W +10 (13) | Init +5 | Perc +18 (+2 stonework) & darkvision SM +0 | Speed 30' | Active Conditions: | Constant: Combat Reflexes, DR 2/-, Imp. Uncanny Dodge
Grandmaster TOZ wrote:
Yuri, since Dazing Assault has the same wording as Power Attack I would rule it could be activated on the AoO.

Yeah, that's also how I would interpret it. Ah well, was worth a shot at stealing her turn.


Well it would have been good. I am anticipating dead NPC gnome very soon.

Liberty's Edge

CG Half-Elf Summoner 13
Mage of the Wyrmkin wrote:
^Sure you never know when 1 point of non-lethal damage will make the difference. ;)

Hey now... there's a +3 to hit and damage, from Kasimir's inspiration.

So already out of the non-lethal territory =)

Still not much, admittedly.


I forgot about the +3. So it is a mighty 1d3 damage.

She should at least have some poison on it. She does call herself an Alchemist. :-)

Dark Archive

Cleric (evangelist) 13 | HP: 120 |AC: 25/ FF 23/ T 14 | Fort: +16 Ref: +11 Will: +20| Perception: +21| Init: +4

We can do it! Yuri, go get her! I’ve got your back!


Morale of the story. Let the GM bot you as he often crits!

Tough choice for the Cleric. Heal up or finish her job.

Serves her right for wasting her Divine Interference on a flunky. Shame on her. :)


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I wouldn't be so sure. ;)

Liberty's Edge

CG Half-Elf Summoner 13

is it possible to squeeze past the circular blade wall there (or go over/under it)?


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No, it was placed to prevent that, with 20ft height. If it needs adjustment to fit legally, let me know.


@Hamish - Maybe surrounding her with a Wall of Stone would not be bad. It has a big area of effect and is cannot be dispelled.

@Grandmaster TOZ - Was that just a Time Stop that she cast? Really? In a Tier 12-13? Also can you cast through the Blade Barrier?


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The barrier gives cover but otherwise does not prevent targeting. Time Stop is a good guess, but someone would have to spellcraft it to confirm. ;)

I will point out that you've already seen one 9th level spell cast this combat.

Liberty's Edge

CG Half-Elf Summoner 13

Shrug, a yes or no was good enough. =)

Liberty's Edge

CG Half-Elf Summoner 13
Grandmaster TOZ wrote:
Time Stop is a good guess, but someone would have to spellcraft it to confirm.

Would depend on where she was when she cast it.

If after she moved inside... only a couple of folks were in line of sight. =)

Either way, a +5 modifier won't get me anything!


Yes but there are ninth level spells and then there are ninth level spells. Overwhelming Presence barely qualifies but Time Stop is really a ninth level spell. :-)

@Hamish - Moot point now.

Liberty's Edge

CG Half-Elf Summoner 13

Hopefully Yuri can sunder the blade barrier out of existence.

Though just realized that (assuming she used Heal to heal herself), with exactly 150 points of damage, she was perfectly efficient there. =)

Wonder how close we got. If Yuri had hit, would we have had her? Hell, if Bombshell had hit, would we have gotten her? (the later would have been hilarious =))


@Kasimir - Silence is a 1 Round cast. You might want to target a willing PC as then the spell will be mobile. I was just thinking about how useful it would be to be able to quicken that spell. Definitely worth a 6th level slot.

@Hamish - Good Point about the spell sunder. We need to get that NPC out of the temple or she will be toast soon. I am surprised that she is not dead already.

Dark Archive

Cleric (evangelist) 13 | HP: 120 |AC: 25/ FF 23/ T 14 | Fort: +16 Ref: +11 Will: +20| Perception: +21| Init: +4

Kasimir spellcraft checks, use as needed.

1. Spellcraft 1d20 + 14 ⇒ (18) + 14 = 32
2. Spellcraft 1d20 + 14 ⇒ (19) + 14 = 33
3. Spellcraft 1d20 + 14 ⇒ (11) + 14 = 25
4. Spellcraft 1d20 + 14 ⇒ (12) + 14 = 26
5. Spellcraft 1d20 + 14 ⇒ (15) + 14 = 29


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Kasimir does recognize Time Stop. I don't believe you are able to spellcraft any of the spells cast during her accelerated turns, but if anyone has firm rules otherwise, please let me know.

Dark Archive

Cleric (evangelist) 13 | HP: 120 |AC: 25/ FF 23/ T 14 | Fort: +16 Ref: +11 Will: +20| Perception: +21| Init: +4

So it is. I’ll pick a target next round then. My bad.

Dark Archive

Cleric (evangelist) 13 | HP: 120 |AC: 25/ FF 23/ T 14 | Fort: +16 Ref: +11 Will: +20| Perception: +21| Init: +4

Well, she’s visibly healed and I can see the blade barrier, so those should be pretty clear.


Time Stop is a nice pull as a domain spell unless it is simply an extra that they give her. Hopefully she is out of 9th level spells now. I am only presuming that she is 17th level. It could be worse. ;)

I do not see how we can spellcraft or react to any actions that she takes while she pulls herself outside of our time. We can only react to our perceptions of the changed reality.

@Kasimir - My point exactly. You are responding to the effects that you can perceive when she rejoins us in regular time. GM is right as usual. :-)

Edit - The thought has occurred to me that we can start summoning up small armies of useless spell casting minions. If we bombard her with enough saves she is bound to roll a 1. This is a tactic I would never try in a live game but here managing minions is so much easier. It is probably not going to happen but it is a fun idea.

Dark Archive

Cleric (evangelist) 13 | HP: 120 |AC: 25/ FF 23/ T 14 | Fort: +16 Ref: +11 Will: +20| Perception: +21| Init: +4

I did try the minion approach, I just botched the concentration check. *sigh*

Silver Crusade

Male Half Elf -Paladin 14 AC31/T14 /F30/CMD28| Hp 144/144 | Fort:+23;Ref:+16;Will+19(27) |Percept.+10 | Init.+3. { }

Question; Omrax has normal heavy armor move of 20', plus longstrider 20'. So does haste add 20' or 30' to his airwalk speed, leaving him with a move speed of 60' or 70'?
(in case it matters chasing her down)

Also, don't forget your Blessings (Omrax still taking +2 each round)


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Haste and Longstrider are both enhancement bonuses to speed, so only the higher will count. And since haste is limited to twice your speed, it only adds 20 feet.

Silver Crusade

Male Half Elf -Paladin 14 AC31/T14 /F30/CMD28| Hp 144/144 | Fort:+23;Ref:+16;Will+19(27) |Percept.+10 | Init.+3. { }

Ah ok - well in that case...he cannot reach her this round. Change of plans.


Kasimir vonVang wrote:
I did try the minion approach, I just botched the concentration check. *sigh*

Right but did we try to summon forth legions of Mephits? All those SLAs pilled on top of each other can amount to something. :)

Liberty's Edge

Medium Male CG Dwarf Barbarian (chained) 12/Fighter 3 | HP 175/175 (raging 235/235) | AC 23 (raging 25) T 13 (11) FF 21 (23) | CMB +23 (26), CMD 39 (40) +3 vs Sunder, +4 vs Bull Rush & Trip| F +22 (26), R +12, W +10 (13) | Init +5 | Perc +18 (+2 stonework) & darkvision SM +0 | Speed 30' | Active Conditions: | Constant: Combat Reflexes, DR 2/-, Imp. Uncanny Dodge

Haste and Blessing of Fervor don't stack, but is this true even if you use them for different purposes? For example, could I take the added movement speed from haste at the same time that I took the +2 to attacks & AC & REF from Blessing of Fervor? I assume the answer is no, but if it's yes I would have done exactly that on my just-posted turn (which would increase each of my CAGM attack rolls by 2).

Liberty's Edge

CG Half-Elf Summoner 13

I'd like to reiterate that there is NO blessing of fervor.

That was a mistake on my part, as I confused casters of mine from different pbp's.

Unless Kasimir cast it when I wasn't looking, but don't think he did. There is just a regular haste (and that only on Rokgurn, Hamish, the Seaward Gull, and Omrax)

Liberty's Edge

Medium Male CG Dwarf Barbarian (chained) 12/Fighter 3 | HP 175/175 (raging 235/235) | AC 23 (raging 25) T 13 (11) FF 21 (23) | CMB +23 (26), CMD 39 (40) +3 vs Sunder, +4 vs Bull Rush & Trip| F +22 (26), R +12, W +10 (13) | Init +5 | Perc +18 (+2 stonework) & darkvision SM +0 | Speed 30' | Active Conditions: | Constant: Combat Reflexes, DR 2/-, Imp. Uncanny Dodge

Huh, not sure how I missed that. But that's ok, I'll just use a round of boots of speed this round in that case (6/10). This also adds +1 to my various attacks and potential AoO that I posted earlier.

Silver Crusade

Male Half Elf -Paladin 14 AC31/T14 /F30/CMD28| Hp 144/144 | Fort:+23;Ref:+16;Will+19(27) |Percept.+10 | Init.+3. { }

Omrax cast the blessings of fervor. :)

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