TOZ's Passing the Torch (Inactive)

Game Master TriOmegaZero

I know it is a game but how are you supposed to break a wall down with a sword? You need a sledge hammer or equivalent. How daft are these people?

What the hell else are you supposed to do when the enemy throws a stone wall up in your way? Go home?

(Y'all had to have been impressed if they DID Kool-Aid Man it through there tho.)

Well if I was an insane cultist maybe I would attack a stone wall with a sword. It is very in-character. So carry on. :)

If they were reasonable people maybe they would look for another entrance or get some help to breach the wall. As a character I would never attack a wall with an edged weapon (unless it was Adamantine) in fear of damaging my weapon.

Edit - Does the Kool-Aid man bust through a wall? That is reaching too far back. And yes if these losers were not all dex based maybe they could be manly and bust through.

Edit2- The real problem is that these people are drinking the Kool-Aid. ;)

You should know that Paizo never writes Str based rogues. If it makes you feel better, they do have 16 Str.

Edit2- The real problem is that these people are drinking the Kool-Aid. ;)

That is NOT Kool-Aid in those channels! DO NOT drink from them!

You should know that Paizo never writes Str based rogues. If it makes you feel better, they do have 16 Str.

So sad really. A strength based rogue can be so much better with good static damage and feats like power attack, furious focus, vital strike and the like so they are not shutdown by an inability to sneak attack. Add in a level of Barbarian or Brawler and now you are talking. :)

I know I wouldn’t want to face off with NPC Yuri for all my fights.

I totally intend to try to Kool-Aid man the Gull through the wall, once we're clear in here. =)

That will be good times! (Not good times for the map, but I'll figure something out.)

I was just going to send in a few earth elementals after them but ok go for it. :) It is a 26 DC Strength check so you still might not make it on your first attempt or you can beat up the wall and then it will come down for sure as it only has 45 hit points.

I am thinking of trying out the limbs(arms) evolution on my bird so he can give out potions in combat. I assume that claws are not good enough to handle a potion?

Edit- A hawk can definitely hold and fly a potion over to someone but I don't know if he can open it up and pour it down someone's throat without actual hands.

Edit2 - He could potentially throw alchemical weapons as well with his arms. Granted at Seeker level not overwhelmingly powerful but still...

I would have to say that hawk familiars can't use potions in this case, no.

But if they had the limbs(arms) evolution then it would be ok in your book?

Right, that BS. If you have access to that, it should work.

We're into some weird spaces now.

I guess taunting the assassins right before they get blown up by Crazy is less impressive then I had thought originally but was still fun. They deserve it as they are lame. :)

This temple is full of surprises. :)

Well batting 0/2 in the temple. Not good. :)

And this is why my alchemists never take Rapid Bombs.

^Someone in the party has to do damage. :)

It's adorable seeing the save DCs like they are going to matter. Complete opposite of my tanglefoot bombs, where the damage is the rider.

Does anyone know what game mechanic detects curses?

I think it is a function of the temple and not the blade that is preventing the healing of the bleeding. Blood wants more blood. ;)
When you descriptor is he who walks in blood do not be surprised when your bleed effect continues...

Omrax lay hands mercy can remove curses, poison and some other ailments

May still not work ...like clay golem or something.

@Omrax - I am pretty sure that it is the effect of the temple. Another reason why dimensional travel is banned in this place as well so you cannot just Dimension Door out when you suffer bleed damage that will not stop. You can try but it will most likely fail. It would seem that the scroll of Ethereal Jaunt is simply a tease exit. Now that is mean. :)

@Grandmaster TOZ - We can abbreviate our comments in combat but it would lack gravitas. The game mechanics already detract much from the writing of the thread.

But yes we are a bunch of chatty Cathys.

So I'm ready to try bursting out, in hopes if we get Bombshell out of the temple, we can stop the bleeding.

GM Question 1: if I were to give the Gull the trample ability, would it be able to keep moving over anyone in the way after it bursts through (assuming it does) if it has movement to spare?

GM Question 2: if I get a running start, do I get a bonus? =)

Party Question 3: Anyone want to go along for the ride?

Since it’s a Str check and not a combat maneuver, you will have to stop moving to do it. You also don’t get charge bonuses on Str checks.

Where does it say you have to stop to do a str check? Charging through things is sort of a staple! =)

I'll describe it that way anyway, for dramatic effect regardless =)
Could I trample through though? Kind of less dramatic if you just end up clogging the entrance.

C'mon, I can see the comic splash page, of the ship bursting through a rock wall! Tiny sailors all waving cutlasses and someone standing on the deck, wearing a goofy tricorn hat... bad guys falling from the force of it all!

The fact that it’s a standard action and you can’t take such an action during a move, only at the end of it.

Sadly, Stunning Irruption or whatever it is exists.

Where does it say its a standard action? Hmm..

Could I do it as part of an overrun? Like an attack roll?
'Course, that just gets me five feet.

Hmm.. Its air walking, I could squeeze over their heads maybe (with just a normal move?)

It is an ability check, so barring an exception it should default to a standard action. Overrun only allows for combat maneuvers while moving.

bah. boring!

You could full attack the wall and then 5' step through. It can be flavored as busting through without the strength check and the need to be wrecking the map. If you get lucky you might one-punch the wall and then get to attack the baddies as well. Just a thought.

Also they might break down the wall in the first place making this entire conversation moot.

Edit - Perhaps Bonbshell should ride the Gull to prevent her blood from hitting the floor. It will be a lot of blood for your sailors to mop up. :)

As someone who does cast Wall of Stone a lot, the full attack is your best option: just smash it until it breaks. You’ll also benefit from whatever damage the mantis men have done to their side.

The strength check is all or nothing.

Desecrate should work to cut off the connection between temple and deity. Except that plot armor fueled by plot blood is pretty strong so I am curious to see what exactly is going to happen in-game.

I know that our Paladin is not going to be happy as that is a very evil spell. :-)

@Kasimir - Descecrate + Animate Dead is the best but is hard to pull off in PFS due to good aligned PCs.

If you hadn’t guessed yet, y’all are in an unhallow spell already. Have to see how that interacts with desecrate.

Edit: Oh, she gonna be big mad if this works.

Can you Spell Sunder a Wall of Stone? As it is an instantaneous effect probably no. So Kool-Aid Man next round? :-)

No, you can't spell sunder it.

Was going to suggest everyone delay to the same init count... to make things easier. =)

Hamish has it right. We can all delay our actions until Hamish/Gull have acted by breaking down the wall but right before Red is up. We can always come off delay if something in the environment changes.

@Grandmaster TOZ - can we make Sense Motive checks against Eylysia?
We don't exactly trust her and it seems suspicious that she will be able to cure Bombshell at this point.

Also did Kasimir's spell have any effect in-game that is noticeable?

You’re welcome to roll them. You don’t notice anything in particular different after his spell.

I keep thinking that we got really lucky that the big Mantes decided not to attack Hamish. He would not have survived being attacked, tossed, opportunity attacked and then tossed in the tar pit. There are a lot of character types that fit into that category. Sometimes I wonder how they design encounters at all.

A lot of PbP run better with loose initiatives, but that encounter especially benefits from tightly following init order in order to determine who gets hit when and where.

Oh ye of little faith!

No giant bug can defeat the Captain of the Seaward Gull!

(Fear his 14 AC!)

How’s your reflex save to avoid getting entangled in burning tar for 5d6 ongoing damage? :P

Despite the problems with PbP initiatives and the reboots due to Divine Intervention I think that encounter was really problematic. How did it play out for you when you played it?

No bug, I tell you!

Hamish - Your defenses are scary bad. But you play well, are lucky and have style so that counts for more in my book. :)

We were caught by the AoOs, leaving a couple people grappled. Due to initiatives, we did not have a chance to escape the grapples before they ghost stepped over, allowing them full attacks instead of single actions due to the higher action cost of crossing over without a grapple.

I don’t recall too much of the specifics, but AoOs and full attacks had one or two PCs down, forcing a lot of triage to keep them alive. The dragon disciple was able to deal damage and the ranger put some arrows in once he was able to get stand off. It was fairly iffy until my life oracle was able to use her first ever casting of stormbolts to fry one and stun another. After she became a bug zapper the rest of the party was able to bring damage on the remaining foes.

Currently on the road, will make updates as I can.

So not a good experience for you guys either. We were able to manage slightly better only because the people grappled were able to soak so much damage and the people not grappled were able to put out a lot damage. So we got lucky.

We were also in the mid tier where all three have four claws and the armor rending bite. My life oracle was hard pressed but being ridiculously able to heal let the party regroup.