The Fallen Sons and Daughters of Heaven Pathfinder Campaign

Game Master Divinitus

Rynjin's right, just make sure you have like a 1 page summary with the important points as well.
You could leave a link to a text pasting website website and people can read it if they want to if you are one of the chosen people

Well, I'm pretty sure he already read the fluff when I posted it earlier. XD It's not like it was a book or anything - just a few paragraphs. It's just that I had to include all of her abilities and whatnot, too...

Sariel's basic submission is done. It may get a few tweaks still, once I chat with the GM, but yeah.

Sadly, I had to leave off the fluff. I may just make a link to it or something. I think profiles aren't allowed to be that long. XD; *About 30 pages thus far*

oh...what about alias bloat ^_^

Seriously, I hope for you that you get picked, but you could also just have linked her if you are not sure ;)

Unless, of course, you plan on a secondary career for her...in those other games of yours ....or you got pre-picked, in which case congratulations...

Well, I'm pretty sure he already read the fluff when I posted it earlier. XD It's not like it was a book or anything - just a few paragraphs. It's just that I had to include all of her abilities and whatnot, too...

Oh, haha, I thought you meant the backstory was 30 pages!

Yeah... my crunch is pretty long as well. It's hard when you have literally 40 spell-like abilities.

What I did:
My profile has all my concept, backstory, appearance/personality, and fluff explaining some of his abilities.
On my myth weavers, in that section way at the bottom, is the actual list of everything.

But I definitely have fewer abilities, so mines already much shorter.

@Mordred: I can delete the alias until it has 10 posts. As long as I don't KEEP posting with it, I'm good. ^^ I have not gotten pre-picked.

@Tamkalos: No, 30 pages is the profile WITHOUT the background. XD Most of it being special abilities' rules text. Possession is a few pages all on its own, too, and that's just two feats...

@Mordred: I can delete the alias until it has 10 posts. As long as I don't KEEP posting with it, I'm good. ^^ I have not gotten pre-picked.

Oh, I thought you can just rename the alias until then, and not delete it once it posted.

@Mordred: I can delete the alias until it has 10 posts. As long as I don't KEEP posting with it, I'm good. ^^ I have not gotten pre-picked.

@Tamkalos: No, 30 pages is the profile WITHOUT the background. XD Most of it being special abilities' rules text. Possession is a few pages all on its own, too, and that's just two feats...

Huh, I have an alias at 2 posts that I can't delete. I've just resigned to having to repurpose it some day.

The effect is the same though. Prior to 10 posts you can just use that as the alias for the next character that *does* get accepted.

Hm? Ah. Indeed.

...Ah well. XD

yeah, well, thats why I said, "mostly the same effect", Iaidionnel :)

Well Rednal, guess for now, Sariel is here to stay ;) best make good use of her then ^_^

So, something I just thought of, since we're basically starting off "fully formed" (i.e. our characters are not characters who have started off at level 1 and moved up, they sprang into being as 13th level Tristalts), does that mean we basically qualify for any feat we qualify for at any level?

EX: I have BaB 13, can I take Improved Critical as my "1st level" feat?

So, question, I forgot with warlord was allowed? There's a prestige class called thrashing dragon I'd looooove to combo here.

So I still have a lot to do, potions to make, spells to pick, etc. But he is shaping up rather well. Held back on some things. The idea here is the was a inventor/creator but couldn't get his final project right, he eventually began experimenting on mortals, and finally, one day turned his knowledge on himself. Basically a clockwork construct/Android. I'm not sure if he will stay as an alchemist in his third class but I'm not sure what would fit. Though I'd definitely take a warlord.

Now he seeks to spread his discovery to others though most of the time they end up dieng. He has become destruction, and so created a rival blade he now wields alongside creation.

Warlord is indeed allowed - Sariel's taking it. ^^

...we can craft items?

Thought that was a bit much myself, although that's save me quite a bit of money.

No. I asked, and the GM specifically said there was no cost reduction for item crafting in character creation (though it might affect earned loot)

oh well, off to bed :P

I am almost done, but before i have my questions answered, I cannot finalize my submission. -_-
And I refuse to listen to what Yin whispers into my ears. -_-

pleasant dreams to all of you.

Oh, okay. Good.

Makes me feel better about his list of gear xD

Aw. Oh well, I'll just get rid of the small, fancier little trinkets. Won't affect much.

Rorek, you are using the Eldritch template incorrectly - it is not a buy-however-much template - you get 6 EP to spend (1/2 of 13 HD).
You are at 10 I think.

No. I asked, and the GM specifically said there was no cost reduction for item crafting in character creation (though it might affect earned loot)

But ok to add flavor to Items, so as to keep the theme stuff going, stock items would be a little dull.

no cost reduction doesn't mean no crafting. It just means you pay full price for anything you do craft.

As for the massive alias, I am doing something a little bit different.
I am creating 2 aliases, the first has all of the calculations, where all the bonuses come from and what they effect, and anything else that can safely fit in the "background."
The second alias has everything summarized and as compact as I can make it while still having the relevant information, and this second alias is the one that will be used the most :)
It does mean that I will have to double up on a lot of the work, but it isn't nearly as cluttered and shorter.
First Alias
Second Alias
Both are still very much wip, but they are coming along! ^-^

Question for you guys.
I am going Tetori Monk 13/Aberrant Aegis 13/Dread Devourer, Consuming Creature, something 10.
What should I use for the last 10 levels? I am already very good at grappling and melee combat, so I don't think I need to improve that aspect much. Instead I am thinking using it for more versatility, or simply to make the character more interesting or multidimensional.
One thought was sorcerer. And ideas you could give me?

I would honestly not limit myself to being an enormous creature. I think it was mentioned that there will indeed be times when being huge (or even bigger) won't be especially helpful... and might not allow you to get into where the game is going.

Ya I plan on dropping myself to large size, at first I went huge because hey, I could. But I realize I don't really have to be, so large is good enough :) I still need to actually implement the change however
I can still swallow huge creatures in one gulp however!

@Gobo: what about an Eldritch Scion Magus?

I would honestly not limit myself to being an enormous creature. I think it was mentioned that there will indeed be times when being huge (or even bigger) won't be especially helpful... and might not allow you to get into where the game is going.

It's true. But I still really hope I can get a size-shrinking power, just because being able to be gargantuan would be super cool if we ever need to destroy a town, hahaha. I'd expect most of the time Large is probably the biggest a player should reasonably be.

@Gobo: what about an Eldritch Scion Magus?

Magus wouldn't be useful for a worm. No weapons.

how about a Plague Oracle? With the infested or odious curse? You could focus on buff spells with horrible-sounding fluff. It may not be the most mechanically powerful choice, but just reading it made my skin crawl.

The antipaladin cruelties might also work as nasty infections and such.

My submission is just a concept. The chair Mage telekineticist fallen royal advisor type. I'll build the mechanics of I'm accepted. Theirs a lot of moving parts that's completely unusable in another game.

no cost reduction doesn't mean no crafting. It just means you pay full price for anything you do craft.

where usually, the question "Can we craft equipment?" is synonymous with "Do we get a discount on equipment we have craft skills for?"

Because honestly, I doubt anybody cares wether you crafted something yourself or not, as long as mechanically you pay the correct price, the rest is fluff.
So If some Level 1 Ranger decides he wants to have crafted his own bow for fluff reasons, on my table he can either take the craft feat and buy half price, or pay full price and just claim he crafted it.

But I assume in this case, the question was, as usually in these cases, aimed towards the possibility of a cost reduction gained through crafting, rather than an inquire on wether it's allowed to have crafted our gear in the backstory if you have appropiate craft skills(really, nobody should feel the need to even ask that question).

@Gobo Horde I second the plague Oracle. It seems the most flavorful choice, has synergy with your charisma, has some "divine" background, ...it fits. Another option could be pestilence bloodline for sorcerer, if you'd prefer their spell list. Should orient a bit towards vermin and swarms then, though.

The thing about our 'gear' is that we have two items.

The rest are innate bonuses. XD Bit harder to craft those.

The thing about our 'gear' is that we have two items.

The rest are innate bonuses. XD Bit harder to craft those.

Nah, you just need a good doctor...

How do we deal with weapons?

My two legendary items are my armor and shield (naturally), but I "bought" 4, +2 adamantine rhokas.
Are they just fused into my hands whenever I want to draw them?

Or are weapons the exception?

Maybe you fell without weapons and will have to loot the broken bodies of our first foes/victims

oh, and just so nobody else asks identical questions, I have sent inquiries for a few more Fiendish Powers that I will put into the spreadsheet once I get an answer:

Fated (Su) (as norn)
Whisper on the Wind (Su) (as Kirin)
Flash of Insight (Su) (as Cyclops)
Shield of Agony (Su) (as mordnaissant)
Jester's Deck (Su) (as Red Jester)
Quickling Casting (Ex) (as Quickling Template)
Unluck Aura (Su) (as Pugwampi)
No Luck (Su) (as Cat Sith)
Carapace (Su) (as Tarrasque)
Unsettling Appearance (Su) (as cerebric fungus)
Ethereal Ambush (Ex) (as phase spider)

....I have six-ish different feats aimed at quad-wielding rhokas. I hope that's not true, because without some heavy GM fiat (Devils don't use rhokas), I need to rethink things.

I guess it's a good thing we're Fallen instead of Devils, then. 8D

Rednal can just go to the Material plane and seduce a master smith into crafting you some for free.

*Would totally do it, too*

I'm all about getting people what they want. XD

...Now if only I could find a way to speed-cast symbol spells...

(Edit: ...Multispell lets me cast multiple spells as a full-round action, and doesn't say their normal casting times have to be short enough... but that's probably too cheesy and munchkin-y? XD)

@Rednal- the problem being that I'd have to loot the bodies of whitener we first kill (which wouldn't be too much of a problem, I have six claws), which, unless they just happen to use the weapon I specialize in, isn't going to help. I would enjoy the enslaving-a-smith, however. My undead army needs weapons!

Quickling Casting (Ex)

All spells and spell-like abilities a quickling creature has can be cast as a swift action if it has a casting time of 1 round or less. Those spells and spell-like abilities with longer casting times have their casting times reduced to 1 round and take an attack action to cast. This ability cannot be used with the Quicken Spell or Quicken Spell-Like Ability feats.

Use this in tandem with Multispell

o wo...

I like where this is going. Think I can get that with Fiendish points, or should I trade in my Fortune-Blessed template?

(@Bigrig: Actually, I don't think you'd even need to enslave one unless you really wanted to. XD Hell makes its own weapons, and presumably, it's not hard to get them as long as you can pay.)

@Bane- ....let's not do that?

@Rednal- it's much more fun to enslave them, and if I can get them to be undead, boom! Unlimited, "free" crafting. And I don't even have to feed them.

I have a Cohort, too. Base score of 19, and I miiiiight be planning on having a group that can craft things I can offer as gifts to tempt people with... XD Figured that would be better than throwing them into battle.

Oh, wow.

Didn't even think about Leadership.
I'll have to ask Herald about it, cause I want an undead cohort!

Just out of curiosity, did anybody inquire regarding:

I considered a Black Skull as innate item, but thats...costly.

@Rednal: I actually inquired about it in FP-costs as written above...if I get an answer, I'll let you know.

I did not inquire about that one. Actually, I avoided auras in general - most of them can hit allies, too, and I want to encourage getting CLOSER to Sariel instead of further away. XD

I will have auras. I sort of have this vision of Itherael being like a creepy side guy. Like here are all these badass Fallen, and one super weird guy 30 ft to the side.

Who needs an NPC cohort when you have Tamlakos as your bodyguard? Two heads are better than one, as they say.

Enjoying doodling him, though he's far too happy looking for a demon, hahaha.