
shadowkras |
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A wild-shape focused class without 9-spellcasting levels? Sign me in.
This might solve a LOT of conceptual problems with the druid, to be honest.
Systems for generating weather and challenging characters with natural hazards and strange terrain from terrain both mundane and fey-touched.
I honestly hope the focus of the book is not only the fey, as it would be a waste to not include rules for elemental realms into this.

DungeonmasterCal |
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Someone help me out - this makes how many hardbacks that are being released this year? Four? Bestiary 6, Ultimate Wilderness, Ultimate Adventurer, and one the name of which escapes me. My relatives are going to freak out when they see my Christmas list.
EDIT: Is the fourth one the Book of the Damned or something like that?

Lucus Palosaari |

Someone help me out - this makes how many hardbacks that are being released this year? Four? Bestiary 6, Ultimate Wilderness, Ultimate Adventurer, and one the name of which escapes me. My relatives are going to freak out when they see my Christmas list.
EDIT: Is the fourth one the Book of the Damned or something like that?
Looks like:
Villain Codex just recently released.
Bestiary 6 coming April 26th of 2017.
Adventurer's Guide coming May 24th of 2017
and
Now this.
EDIT: There's also The Book of the Damned coming Sept 2017.
I hadn't included it as I thought it wasn't the "mainline" because its very-very tied to their "world" but with the Villain Codex and the Adventurer's Guide they're mixing their IP with their "world-neutral line" a lot. And it looks like this is officially just "main line" not a supplement in the Pathfinder Campaign Setting stuff.
So 5 Books in the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game line

captain yesterday |
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DungeonmasterCal wrote:Someone help me out - this makes how many hardbacks that are being released this year? Four? Bestiary 6, Ultimate Wilderness, Ultimate Adventurer, and one the name of which escapes me. My relatives are going to freak out when they see my Christmas list.
EDIT: Is the fourth one the Book of the Damned or something like that?
Looks like:
Villain Codex just recently released.
Bestiary 6 coming April 26th of 2017.
Adventurer's Guide coming May 24th of 2017
and
Now this.
So 4 Books in the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game line
You forgot Book Of The Damned. :-)

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Glad to see you guys are excited!
To expand very vaguely on this bit from the product description: "New archetypes for alchemists, bards, druids, hunters, inquisitors, investigators, kineticists, mesmerists, paladins, rangers, rogues, slayers, and more!" I'll mention that brawlers (who haven't had an archetype in quite a while) are one of the other classes among the "and more".

Luthorne |
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Wow, I was just thinking something like this would be cool...though admittedly I was hoping for expanded rules on things to do with parts of various monsters and thought a book like this would be nice to see something like that in. But the shifter sounds fascinating, I've always loved shapeshifter concepts, but the druid has way too much baggage for my tastes, so it'll be interesting to see what the shifter brings to the table. Definitely interested to see what all's inside this book!

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Wow, I was just thinking something like this would be cool...though admittedly I was hoping for expanded rules on things to do with parts of various monsters and thought a book like this would be nice to see something like that in.
I'd agree that a hardcover book would really be just about the only place that would have the pagecount for something like that, but you'll have to wait and see what's in the book ;)

Davic The Grey |

A martial shapeshifting class. I'm soooo ready for this. Will the Shifter have a play test?
Are you assuming Shifter will be martial focused based on something? I don't see anything to suggest they will be other than the overlap with druids and hunters. I'm hoping for a 1/1 BAB martial class but...

Lemartes |

Brew Bird wrote:A martial shapeshifting class. I'm soooo ready for this. Will the Shifter have a play test?Are you assuming Shifter will be martial focused based on something? I don't see anything to suggest they will be other than the overlap with druids and hunters. I'm hoping for a 1/1 BAB martial class but...
Yeah I don't see where it is a martial either. I mean it may be but it might not be.

Luthorne |
Luthorne wrote:Wow, I was just thinking something like this would be cool...though admittedly I was hoping for expanded rules on things to do with parts of various monsters and thought a book like this would be nice to see something like that in.I'd agree that a hardcover book would really be just about the only place that would have the pagecount for something like that, but you'll have to wait and see what's in the book ;)
Indeed, that was pretty much what I was thinking...you'd need a decent bit of space to cover it, so some sort of Ultimate or Adventures book focused on wilderness or something similar seemed like a possibility at least, though of course, it may or may not actually be here...was just surprising since I was thinking about that just a day or two ago and this popped up. Would be cool if it's covered, but, well, I find the best way to be happy about products is to not get too attached to something and just wait to see what cool things are inside instead of getting upset by what isn't!

David knott 242 |
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So what is meant by the "Expected to arrive and ship separately from Paizo's monthly shipment" note for this item on the subscription page?
What is strange is that the adventure path item for the same month has the same note.

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Mark Seifter wrote:Indeed, that was pretty much what I was thinking...you'd need a decent bit of space to cover it, so some sort of Ultimate or Adventures book focused on wilderness or something similar seemed like a possibility at least, though of course, it may or may not actually be here...was just surprising since I was thinking about that just a day or two ago and this popped up. Would be cool if it's covered, but, well, I find the best way to be happy about products is to not get too attached to something and just wait to see what cool things are inside instead of getting upset by what isn't!Luthorne wrote:Wow, I was just thinking something like this would be cool...though admittedly I was hoping for expanded rules on things to do with parts of various monsters and thought a book like this would be nice to see something like that in.I'd agree that a hardcover book would really be just about the only place that would have the pagecount for something like that, but you'll have to wait and see what's in the book ;)
I think that's an excellent mindset to have. I seem to remember someone who was completely convinced that Ultimate Intrigue was going to have a spell to change into an ooze in it, and then when it didn't, he was very upset. Better to be excited about what it does include; there's at least a few surprises that are very difficult to guess!

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Hmmmm....
I thought Paizo had said the Vigilante was going to be the last class for awhile. Color me... intrigued.
Shifter will hit a little over a year and a half after vigilante, and I believe that's the biggest gap we've had without a new class so far since the Core Rulebook, though I might be mistaken.

David knott 242 |

Hmmmm....
I thought Paizo had said the Vigilante was going to be the last class for awhile. Color me... intrigued.
I guess that means that it has been a while since Ultimate Intrigue came out....
In fact, this book would be coming out a year and 8 months after Ultimate Intrigue, according to the Archives of Nethys entry for Ultimate Intrigue.

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Also, I just realized the synergy today: check out the new Bestiary 6 blog for a new type of monster themed on different types of wilderness, perfect in combination with Ultimate Wilderness!

Soluzar |

Wilderness Survival Guide was the last 1st ed &D book published, in 1986.
That book was the first thing I thought of when I first read about this. I just hope the parallel you suggested doesn't come to pass...

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First of all, how dare you?
Second, what gives you the right?
Shapeshifter is literally my number one class that I've been clamouring for since the dawn of time. The only fantasy archetype I wasn't satisfied with (no offence Druid but you have entirely too much going on).
And then you just GIVE this to us! Fulfilling the hopes and dreams of generations?
I'm excited.
One day I'll talk my players into a Champions of Nature Party:
Barbarian
Druid
Ranger
Hunter
Kineticist
Shifter
Sure they won't be the strongest in matters arcane, but I think they'll be quite formidable indeed.

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Wishlist for this book:
An urban archetype for the shifter focused ondisguise and humanoid shapeshifting.
A kineticist archetype that allows the kineticist to change their elemental focus daily, or even faster in exchange for Burn.
A wilderness archetype for the Vigilante.

David knott 242 |

GM Hands of Fate wrote:Wilderness Survival Guide was the last 1st ed &D book published, in 1986.That book was the first thing I thought of when I first read about this. I just hope the parallel you suggested doesn't come to pass...
But at least the transition from 1st to 2nd edition D&D was a far less disruptive compatibility break than any later edition change. No monster conversions were required at that point. They did publish several monster books for 2nd edition, but strictly speaking they did not have to.

MMCJawa |
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I wonder if any part of this was "salvaged" from the announced and planned Encounter Codex, that was shelved etc. for reasons?
Doubtful...A codex and and a Ultimate line book don't really have a lot in common, and I imagine an encounter codex would cover far more encounters than nature themed ones

Grovestrider |
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I curious to see how Ultimate Wilderness's Shifter class compares to Sphere of Power's Shifter class.