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Female Human (Shoanti) [Transmuter 4, AC12, T12, FF10 | HP 30/30, F+3 R+3 W+4 | CMB +4, CMD 14 | Init +3, Perc. +4 | Telekinetic Fist 7/7, Acid Ray 4/4 | Hero Points 0]

Yeth hounds! How thcary!


Female Kitsune Trickster 3 / Empiricist 1 | hp 15/26 | Init +5; Perc +5 (+6) | AC16 (T13 FF13) | CMD 21 CMB +6 | Fort +1 Ref +9 Will +1 (+2 v. Disease and Poison) | Evasion, Bombs (3, +4/day), Inspiration (5/5)| Bluff +14 | [HUMAN]

I found an exact image of a fox that looks exactly how I imagine Juri's fox form and did a double take today. Sometimes I wished in London so the foxes didn't carry a risk of rabies.


Female Human (Shoanti) [Transmuter 4, AC12, T12, FF10 | HP 30/30, F+3 R+3 W+4 | CMB +4, CMD 14 | Init +3, Perc. +4 | Telekinetic Fist 7/7, Acid Ray 4/4 | Hero Points 0]

Yeah, rabies is a terrible disease and I hate that it destroys the lives of such cute animals.


Rabies is an awful disease. But it has a vaccine! In fact, I work at the company that produces them!


Female Kitsune Trickster 3 / Empiricist 1 | hp 15/26 | Init +5; Perc +5 (+6) | AC16 (T13 FF13) | CMD 21 CMB +6 | Fort +1 Ref +9 Will +1 (+2 v. Disease and Poison) | Evasion, Bombs (3, +4/day), Inspiration (5/5)| Bluff +14 | [HUMAN]

Woah, nice!

Hopefully we never face anything immune to both fire and precision, lmao. A single Magma ooze is enough to make her utterly helpless.


Female Catfolk Bloodrager (Urban Bloodrager) 2/Fighter 2 | HP 36/40 | AC 17 | touch 13 | ff 14 | Fort +8 | Ref +3 | Will +0 (+1 vs fear) | Init +5 | Perception +11 | Bloodrage 7/14 | Hero Points: 0 | Current Conditions: N/A

Sorry for not posting today. Had a health scare and spent half the day at the ER. I’m fine but I got worried real bad and it drained my energy.


Ooc, take care Ano.


Male NG Male Half-Orc Inquisitor 4 | HP 35 / 35 | AC 16 / 12 T / 14 FF | CMD 18 | Fort + 8 (+ 2 vs. disease and poison), Ref + 4, Will + 8 | Init + 4 | Perception + 9 (Darkvision 60') | Speed 40 ft. | Hero Points = 0 | Conditions = None| Effects = | Judgement: 1/2 | Spells: 1st Level (2/4), 2nd Level (2/2) |
Ano Clovermark wrote:
Sorry for not posting today. Had a health scare and spent half the day at the ER. I’m fine but I got worried real bad and it drained my energy.

Make sure you feel better that's the most important thing.


Female Human (Shoanti) [Transmuter 4, AC12, T12, FF10 | HP 30/30, F+3 R+3 W+4 | CMB +4, CMD 14 | Init +3, Perc. +4 | Telekinetic Fist 7/7, Acid Ray 4/4 | Hero Points 0]

Indeed! Get well soon!


Female Catfolk Bloodrager (Urban Bloodrager) 2/Fighter 2 | HP 36/40 | AC 17 | touch 13 | ff 14 | Fort +8 | Ref +3 | Will +0 (+1 vs fear) | Init +5 | Perception +11 | Bloodrage 7/14 | Hero Points: 0 | Current Conditions: N/A

I’m already a lot better. physically at least. trying to keep my mental health in check with whatever can be considered mental duct tape.


Female Kitsune Trickster 3 / Empiricist 1 | hp 15/26 | Init +5; Perc +5 (+6) | AC16 (T13 FF13) | CMD 21 CMB +6 | Fort +1 Ref +9 Will +1 (+2 v. Disease and Poison) | Evasion, Bombs (3, +4/day), Inspiration (5/5)| Bluff +14 | [HUMAN]

Honestly same on the mental health at the moment.


Female Catfolk Bloodrager (Urban Bloodrager) 2/Fighter 2 | HP 36/40 | AC 17 | touch 13 | ff 14 | Fort +8 | Ref +3 | Will +0 (+1 vs fear) | Init +5 | Perception +11 | Bloodrage 7/14 | Hero Points: 0 | Current Conditions: N/A

Here we go…


@Ano: I know this interaction is very RP heavy for you, but this is the BBEG for the 1st book. Please treat her as such. I don't want to see Ano fall from trying to hug things. You got lucky on the dice rolls, but dude... That sword hurts.


Female Kitsune Trickster 3 / Empiricist 1 | hp 15/26 | Init +5; Perc +5 (+6) | AC16 (T13 FF13) | CMD 21 CMB +6 | Fort +1 Ref +9 Will +1 (+2 v. Disease and Poison) | Evasion, Bombs (3, +4/day), Inspiration (5/5)| Bluff +14 | [HUMAN]

OKAY! We are officially in one-hit-kill territory for Juriya going by that STR damage. Glass cannon of a skill fox.


It's a level 1 spell, darling... It also says it can't drop the str below 1. So you're safe. I guess. Although you would be very overburdened.


Female Kitsune Trickster 3 / Empiricist 1 | hp 15/26 | Init +5; Perc +5 (+6) | AC16 (T13 FF13) | CMD 21 CMB +6 | Fort +1 Ref +9 Will +1 (+2 v. Disease and Poison) | Evasion, Bombs (3, +4/day), Inspiration (5/5)| Bluff +14 | [HUMAN]

Oh yeah. 7 STR damage is still horrifying nonetheless for a char with 7 STR ;p. Didn't remember the "can't drop STR below one"


Female Kitsune Trickster 3 / Empiricist 1 | hp 15/26 | Init +5; Perc +5 (+6) | AC16 (T13 FF13) | CMD 21 CMB +6 | Fort +1 Ref +9 Will +1 (+2 v. Disease and Poison) | Evasion, Bombs (3, +4/day), Inspiration (5/5)| Bluff +14 | [HUMAN]

Wait. If this is the BBEG of the book, do we level up after? EXTRACTS AND INSPIRATION! Juri will be less likely to die!


Female Human (Shoanti) [Transmuter 4, AC12, T12, FF10 | HP 30/30, F+3 R+3 W+4 | CMB +4, CMD 14 | Init +3, Perc. +4 | Telekinetic Fist 7/7, Acid Ray 4/4 | Hero Points 0]

Once again the dice undercut Donmiah's attempts to be badass. <_<


Female Kitsune Trickster 3 / Empiricist 1 | hp 15/26 | Init +5; Perc +5 (+6) | AC16 (T13 FF13) | CMD 21 CMB +6 | Fort +1 Ref +9 Will +1 (+2 v. Disease and Poison) | Evasion, Bombs (3, +4/day), Inspiration (5/5)| Bluff +14 | [HUMAN]

And yes, Juriya took a 5ft step back before she launches a bomb. Sorry, not taking 2 splash damage todat ;P


Donimah Southlander wrote:
Once again the dice undercut Donmiah's attempts to be badass. <_<

It did look pretty cool if you don't look at the result.


Female Catfolk Bloodrager (Urban Bloodrager) 2/Fighter 2 | HP 36/40 | AC 17 | touch 13 | ff 14 | Fort +8 | Ref +3 | Will +0 (+1 vs fear) | Init +5 | Perception +11 | Bloodrage 7/14 | Hero Points: 0 | Current Conditions: N/A
I like runes wrote:
@Ano: I know this interaction is very RP heavy for you, but this is the BBEG for the 1st book. Please treat her as such. I don't want to see Ano fall from trying to hug things. You got lucky on the dice rolls, but dude... That sword hurts.

Apologies, this is exactly the interaction Ano would make in character. She certainly doesn’t want to kill Nualia.


Female Kitsune Trickster 3 / Empiricist 1 | hp 15/26 | Init +5; Perc +5 (+6) | AC16 (T13 FF13) | CMD 21 CMB +6 | Fort +1 Ref +9 Will +1 (+2 v. Disease and Poison) | Evasion, Bombs (3, +4/day), Inspiration (5/5)| Bluff +14 | [HUMAN]

If this were 2e or SF I'd say Nonlethal her to unconscious. But. They're separate here.


Male NG Male Half-Orc Inquisitor 4 | HP 35 / 35 | AC 16 / 12 T / 14 FF | CMD 18 | Fort + 8 (+ 2 vs. disease and poison), Ref + 4, Will + 8 | Init + 4 | Perception + 9 (Darkvision 60') | Speed 40 ft. | Hero Points = 0 | Conditions = None| Effects = | Judgement: 1/2 | Spells: 1st Level (2/4), 2nd Level (2/2) |
Juriya Arima wrote:
If this were 2e or SF I'd say Nonlethal her to unconscious. But. They're separate here.

PCs can still use nonlethal to knock NPCs out but you have to be careful not to go overboard. I've only seen that get close on a crit when the NPC was close to 0 HP.


Female Kitsune Trickster 3 / Empiricist 1 | hp 15/26 | Init +5; Perc +5 (+6) | AC16 (T13 FF13) | CMD 21 CMB +6 | Fort +1 Ref +9 Will +1 (+2 v. Disease and Poison) | Evasion, Bombs (3, +4/day), Inspiration (5/5)| Bluff +14 | [HUMAN]

I meant. I thought NL was tracked separately here. So if all of us are using lethal and Ano's using NL, Ano's won't do anything.


Male NG Male Half-Orc Inquisitor 4 | HP 35 / 35 | AC 16 / 12 T / 14 FF | CMD 18 | Fort + 8 (+ 2 vs. disease and poison), Ref + 4, Will + 8 | Init + 4 | Perception + 9 (Darkvision 60') | Speed 40 ft. | Hero Points = 0 | Conditions = None| Effects = | Judgement: 1/2 | Spells: 1st Level (2/4), 2nd Level (2/2) |

They are tracked separately but I wouldn't say it "won't do anything." Here's the relevant rules section:

Nonlethal Damage Rules

"Dealing Nonlethal Damage: Certain attacks deal nonlethal damage. Other effects, such as heat or being exhausted, also deal nonlethal damage. When you take nonlethal damage, keep a running total of how much you’ve accumulated. Do not deduct the nonlethal damage number from your current hit points. It is not “real” damage. Instead, when your nonlethal damage equals your current hit points, you’re staggered (see below), and when it exceeds your current hit points, you fall unconscious."

Note the bold section. So if Nulia has 30 HP and Zel and Arrian do 20 lethal damage she would have 10 HP remaining. So Ano would only need to then accumulate 11 HP of nonlethal damage to render Nualia unconscious.

As for Hero Points:

Hero Point rules

Arrian is attempting to use this option:

"Extra Action: You can spend a hero point on your turn to gain an additional standard or move action this turn."

And taking the additional standard action as an attack.
Seeing Zel get so drained was a 'wake up call' that this fight is dangerous and needs to end as soon as possible.


Female Kitsune Trickster 3 / Empiricist 1 | hp 15/26 | Init +5; Perc +5 (+6) | AC16 (T13 FF13) | CMD 21 CMB +6 | Fort +1 Ref +9 Will +1 (+2 v. Disease and Poison) | Evasion, Bombs (3, +4/day), Inspiration (5/5)| Bluff +14 | [HUMAN]

Oh! Oh I never knew that rule for 1e!

... Asmittedly not that useful for Juriya, feint is only the next melee attack [/i]. At later levels she'll probably prefer flanking for Full Attacks.


Male NG Male Half-Orc Inquisitor 4 | HP 35 / 35 | AC 16 / 12 T / 14 FF | CMD 18 | Fort + 8 (+ 2 vs. disease and poison), Ref + 4, Will + 8 | Init + 4 | Perception + 9 (Darkvision 60') | Speed 40 ft. | Hero Points = 0 | Conditions = None| Effects = | Judgement: 1/2 | Spells: 1st Level (2/4), 2nd Level (2/2) |

No problem. :) 1E has TONS of rules to remember or look up.


Female Catfolk Bloodrager (Urban Bloodrager) 2/Fighter 2 | HP 36/40 | AC 17 | touch 13 | ff 14 | Fort +8 | Ref +3 | Will +0 (+1 vs fear) | Init +5 | Perception +11 | Bloodrage 7/14 | Hero Points: 0 | Current Conditions: N/A

Again I’m sorry if I’m not playing the game as intented. Ano’s entire goal is to bring Nualia back, she absolutely doesn’t want to kill her friend. If she gets damaged however…


Male NG Male Half-Orc Inquisitor 4 | HP 35 / 35 | AC 16 / 12 T / 14 FF | CMD 18 | Fort + 8 (+ 2 vs. disease and poison), Ref + 4, Will + 8 | Init + 4 | Perception + 9 (Darkvision 60') | Speed 40 ft. | Hero Points = 0 | Conditions = None| Effects = | Judgement: 1/2 | Spells: 1st Level (2/4), 2nd Level (2/2) |
Ano Clovermark wrote:
Again I’m sorry if I’m not playing the game as intented. Ano’s entire goal is to bring Nualia back, she absolutely doesn’t want to kill her friend. If she gets damaged however…

You have nothing for which to apologize. You're striking the balance between roleplaying and rollplaying.

I considered having Arrian cast Divine Favor the previous round but that could be considered an offensive action so he waited to see how Nualia would react to Ano. The consequence of *not* casting Divine Favor meant that Arrian wasn't going to use nonlethal as the loss of accuracy (the -4 penalty on a 3/4 BAB class) was too high a price. Unfortunately inquisitors are not proficient with a sap. :(


Female Kitsune Trickster 3 / Empiricist 1 | hp 15/26 | Init +5; Perc +5 (+6) | AC16 (T13 FF13) | CMD 21 CMB +6 | Fort +1 Ref +9 Will +1 (+2 v. Disease and Poison) | Evasion, Bombs (3, +4/day), Inspiration (5/5)| Bluff +14 | [HUMAN]

Yeah. Juri is too busy trying to slaughter a yeth hound with Donimah, but she'll likely react based on the combat she's seeing and go for a kill.

Were she there ORIGINALLY, she'd also try to talk Nualia down beforehand. Probably best our squishies are dealing with the hound though. That damage looks horrifying.


M NG Tiefling (Pitborn) Magus (Eldritch Scion) 4 HP: 26/28 | AC: 17/11/16 | CMD: 18 | F: +4; R: +3; W: +3 | Resist: cold 5, fire 5, electricity 5 | Init: +1 | Perception: -1; Darkvision 60 ft | Eldritch Pool: 3/4 | 1-Lvl: 1/4 | Hero Points: 1

GM, a quick note - attended nonmagical items (which would include the sword Arrian is wielding) do get a save to negate Shatter - they use their wielder's Will save.

I understand if you want to let the ruling stand, but I thought I might as well let you know for future reference.


Male NG Male Half-Orc Inquisitor 4 | HP 35 / 35 | AC 16 / 12 T / 14 FF | CMD 18 | Fort + 8 (+ 2 vs. disease and poison), Ref + 4, Will + 8 | Init + 4 | Perception + 9 (Darkvision 60') | Speed 40 ft. | Hero Points = 0 | Conditions = None| Effects = | Judgement: 1/2 | Spells: 1st Level (2/4), 2nd Level (2/2) |
Zeldrith Angothane wrote:

GM, a quick note - attended nonmagical items (which would include the sword Arrian is wielding) do get a save to negate Shatter - they use their wielder's Will save.

I understand if you want to let the ruling stand, but I thought I might as well let you know for future reference.

The entry for the Shatter spell isn't very clear. This is the general rules entry for 'Smashing an Object':

Smashing an Object

Here's the section in question:

"Saving Throws: Nonmagical, unattended items never make saving throws. They are considered to have failed their saving throws, so they are always fully affected by spells and other attacks that allow saving throws to resist or negate. An item attended by a character (being grasped, touched, or worn) makes saving throws as the character (that is, using the character’s saving throw bonus)."

Since the Shatter spell does list a Will save for objects the falchion may or may not get a save.


Female Kitsune Trickster 3 / Empiricist 1 | hp 15/26 | Init +5; Perc +5 (+6) | AC16 (T13 FF13) | CMD 21 CMB +6 | Fort +1 Ref +9 Will +1 (+2 v. Disease and Poison) | Evasion, Bombs (3, +4/day), Inspiration (5/5)| Bluff +14 | [HUMAN]

The sword you're holding has to count as attended.


Male NG Male Half-Orc Inquisitor 4 | HP 35 / 35 | AC 16 / 12 T / 14 FF | CMD 18 | Fort + 8 (+ 2 vs. disease and poison), Ref + 4, Will + 8 | Init + 4 | Perception + 9 (Darkvision 60') | Speed 40 ft. | Hero Points = 0 | Conditions = None| Effects = | Judgement: 1/2 | Spells: 1st Level (2/4), 2nd Level (2/2) |
Juriya Arima wrote:
The sword you're holding has to count as attended.

I know. The problem with the Shatter spell as that it's description is not well-written. The text doesn't explicitly state an attended object receives a save but the rules for damaging/breaking an object states it does. So which is correct?

That's up to the GM to decide.


I actually agree that it's too strong to have it break without any chance to do otherwise, even if Pathfinder doesn't allow much counterplay except for a d20.

I'll rule that Arrian can roll his Will save.

That is, Arrian can reroll his damage if his weapon is still there.


Female Catfolk Bloodrager (Urban Bloodrager) 2/Fighter 2 | HP 36/40 | AC 17 | touch 13 | ff 14 | Fort +8 | Ref +3 | Will +0 (+1 vs fear) | Init +5 | Perception +11 | Bloodrage 7/14 | Hero Points: 0 | Current Conditions: N/A

Well, even if the crit failed, that turned out better than expected


Aren't you missing 8 from your confirm roll?


Female Catfolk Bloodrager (Urban Bloodrager) 2/Fighter 2 | HP 36/40 | AC 17 | touch 13 | ff 14 | Fort +8 | Ref +3 | Will +0 (+1 vs fear) | Init +5 | Perception +11 | Bloodrage 7/14 | Hero Points: 0 | Current Conditions: N/A

Oh. I am. I don’t know how I missed that.


Female Human (Shoanti) [Transmuter 4, AC12, T12, FF10 | HP 30/30, F+3 R+3 W+4 | CMB +4, CMD 14 | Init +3, Perc. +4 | Telekinetic Fist 7/7, Acid Ray 4/4 | Hero Points 0]

Juriya's like the sister Donimah never had! XD


Female Kitsune Trickster 3 / Empiricist 1 | hp 15/26 | Init +5; Perc +5 (+6) | AC16 (T13 FF13) | CMD 21 CMB +6 | Fort +1 Ref +9 Will +1 (+2 v. Disease and Poison) | Evasion, Bombs (3, +4/day), Inspiration (5/5)| Bluff +14 | [HUMAN]

Hehe, that's good to hear. They both are the squishies and highest-INT party members.

Fun fact, the other build I was considering to ude Kitsune trickster's absurd M.A.D.-ness to my advantage was a magic user instead of an alchemist (Arcanist with a focus on both Exploits and Spells). So they could have been even more alike.


@Arrian: It's sad about the item, but in terms of the combat, the mage spent their round just to prevent 4 damage on Nualia. It's not really all that significant if you think about it.


M NG Tiefling (Pitborn) Magus (Eldritch Scion) 4 HP: 26/28 | AC: 17/11/16 | CMD: 18 | F: +4; R: +3; W: +3 | Resist: cold 5, fire 5, electricity 5 | Init: +1 | Perception: -1; Darkvision 60 ft | Eldritch Pool: 3/4 | 1-Lvl: 1/4 | Hero Points: 1

Apologies for the delay. Magi have a lot of options to sift through, but I think this is a particularly good pick, given that Nualia is covered in metal. Shocking Grasp - the armored foe's bane!


Female Kitsune Trickster 3 / Empiricist 1 | hp 15/26 | Init +5; Perc +5 (+6) | AC16 (T13 FF13) | CMD 21 CMB +6 | Fort +1 Ref +9 Will +1 (+2 v. Disease and Poison) | Evasion, Bombs (3, +4/day), Inspiration (5/5)| Bluff +14 | [HUMAN]

So who currently has the wand? I think it's Arrian since he can bypass UMD? I know at 4th Juri will nab it since she has the CLW extract.


Male NG Male Half-Orc Inquisitor 4 | HP 35 / 35 | AC 16 / 12 T / 14 FF | CMD 18 | Fort + 8 (+ 2 vs. disease and poison), Ref + 4, Will + 8 | Init + 4 | Perception + 9 (Darkvision 60') | Speed 40 ft. | Hero Points = 0 | Conditions = None| Effects = | Judgement: 1/2 | Spells: 1st Level (2/4), 2nd Level (2/2) |
Juriya Arima wrote:
So who currently has the wand? I think it's Arrian since he can bypass UMD? I know at 4th Juri will nab it since she has the CLW extract.

I believe it was since CLW is on the inquisitor spell list.


Female Kitsune Trickster 3 / Empiricist 1 | hp 15/26 | Init +5; Perc +5 (+6) | AC16 (T13 FF13) | CMD 21 CMB +6 | Fort +1 Ref +9 Will +1 (+2 v. Disease and Poison) | Evasion, Bombs (3, +4/day), Inspiration (5/5)| Bluff +14 | [HUMAN]

Yeah, hence Juri's IC comment that says she can handle it next level since it's on the Investigator list (and she won't get the ability to heal others until lvl 9 with my plan. She does get a lot of CLWs for herself though)


Female Catfolk Bloodrager (Urban Bloodrager) 2/Fighter 2 | HP 36/40 | AC 17 | touch 13 | ff 14 | Fort +8 | Ref +3 | Will +0 (+1 vs fear) | Init +5 | Perception +11 | Bloodrage 7/14 | Hero Points: 0 | Current Conditions: N/A

Does Ano need to make another Reflex save before going after Nualia?


If you read the spell grease, you need an acrobatics DC 10 to move at half speed. However you'll have to roll the save against Donimah's spell.


Female Kitsune Trickster 3 / Empiricist 1 | hp 15/26 | Init +5; Perc +5 (+6) | AC16 (T13 FF13) | CMD 21 CMB +6 | Fort +1 Ref +9 Will +1 (+2 v. Disease and Poison) | Evasion, Bombs (3, +4/day), Inspiration (5/5)| Bluff +14 | [HUMAN]

Would Charm Person make it so, say, the man, stops attacking us if it succeeds?


Female Human (Shoanti) [Transmuter 4, AC12, T12, FF10 | HP 30/30, F+3 R+3 W+4 | CMB +4, CMD 14 | Init +3, Perc. +4 | Telekinetic Fist 7/7, Acid Ray 4/4 | Hero Points 0]

I hope so...especially since I know from the previous game of RotRL I was in that he's a Riddleporter like Donimah! :P


Female Kitsune Trickster 3 / Empiricist 1 | hp 15/26 | Init +5; Perc +5 (+6) | AC16 (T13 FF13) | CMD 21 CMB +6 | Fort +1 Ref +9 Will +1 (+2 v. Disease and Poison) | Evasion, Bombs (3, +4/day), Inspiration (5/5)| Bluff +14 | [HUMAN]

Yeah, failing that she'll just be throwing bombs into the crowd.

Perhaps we could crowd around the exit so we don't have to deal with ore than 2 of them at the same time? With Donimah outside of it? Assuming Nualia and the mage escape.

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