2e's puppeteers came to mind here.
I feel my ooc's should have gone here instead of the gameplay.
I snooped on everyone's character sheet and it appears the answer is no, everyone does not have a bludgeoning weapon. At this point I'd recommend either Zel or Ano taking Arrian's club and using it. He won't resist either of them taking the club so feel free to do that as your move action since that would (I guess) fall under 'retrieving an item' on the action scale. DR/5 is tough at 1st level particularly if the PC doesn't have a higher Str and/or Power Attack. I don't know everyone's 'level of experience' with PF so hopefully this doesn't offend anyone.
1) Clubs are free. It won't help right now but, when strapped for coins, it's a great weapon to have. Plus the whole bludgeoning thing.
2) Even if your PC is low Str and doesn't have a B weapon you can still use the 'aid another' with a S/P weapon.
Arrian has the orison Disrupt Undead that he can use. Good news? It's a ranged touch attack that bypasses the skeleton's DR. The bad news? He isn't an archer with PBS and Precise Shot so firing into combat, through friendlies, will get him a whopping -8 penalty to his roll.
Actually, Juriya does have a bludgeoning weapon in her other two forms! Not sure if that would be a wise decision though, 1d4-2 means that she can only either do 1 nonlethal, 1, or 2 damage at a time. Question for the DM, does a bite count as something you can finesse?
Actually, Juriya does have a bludgeoning weapon in her other two forms! Not sure if that would be a wise decision though, 1d4-2 means that she can only either do 1 nonlethal, 1, or 2 damage at a time. Question for the DM, does a bite count as something you can finesse?
But we haven't established if Arrian knows Juriya has other forms. ;)
Hopefully I'm not stepping on toes. From the text of the Weapon Finesse feat: "Special: Natural weapons are considered light weapons."
So it appears yes Juriya can 'finesse' her bite attack.
BTW from what you wrote a couple of things.
1) Undead are immune to nonlethal damage (see GM's post from Arrian's Knowledge check).
2) Why would the bite attack be nonlethal? Is that a Kitsune feature? To my knowledge natural attacks default to lethal damage.
3) As I wrote earlier you might want to consider Juriya aiding Zel or Ano with either their AC or attack roll depending on what they think is best.
"In melee combat, you can help a friend attack or defend by distracting or interfering with an opponent. If you’re in position to make a melee attack on an opponent that is engaging a friend in melee combat, you can attempt to aid your friend as a standard action. You make an attack roll against AC 10. If you succeed, your friend gains either a +2 bonus on his next attack roll against that opponent or a +2 bonus to AC against that opponent’s next attack (your choice), as long as that attack comes before the beginning of your next turn. Multiple characters can aid the same friend, and similar bonuses stack."
Note it does not require the PC to deal damage to the target so, even though Juriya can't hurt them with her rapier, she'd still be able to Aid Another using it.
I remember my Tyrant's Grasp GM stating that negative/zero damage would become one nonlethal damage. And given the distributions of the rolls, it'd be entirely possible for it to go that way. And yeah, was going to do that anyways, hence why I cheekily mentioned it in Discussions instead of y'know. Switching into natural forms in front of everyone.
I remember my Tyrant's Grasp GM stating that negative/zero damage would become one nonlethal damage. And given the distributions of the rolls, it'd be entirely possible for it to go that way. And yeah, was going to do that anyways, hence why I cheekily mentioned it in Discussions instead of y'know. Switching into natural forms in front of everyone.
Re Damage/nondamage: Ah okay that's basically a 'GM rule.' If you want the whole burrito:
Attacks that deal no damage because of the target’s damage reduction do not disrupt spells.
Spells, spell-like abilities, and energy attacks (even nonmagical fire) ignore damage reduction."
So by the Core rules a 0 damage attack doesn't do anything - with exceptions for 'riders.'
So the player is resisting the urge to joke about canids and bones...
And if Juriya changes form do her clothes meld into it? Or is Arrian going to pass out? ;)
I'd imagine the footwear would meld due to different structure when she shifts into kitsune form, but everything else would remain on her. Kitsune are still humanoid and wear clothes. Now, her fox form would undoubtedly have the clothes meld, but I don't think Arrian would pass out at a tiny fox.
And yes, as a canid with a literal fox form in addition to her kitsune and human forms, she is definitely tempted to gnaw on the bones a bit after this is all said and done. She has the reasoning skills to just deny that temptation, but it is definitely there.
Fun fact about DR and Hardness. Hardness reduces energy damage! I'm running Iron Gods where we get Hardness on creatures and the party is eventually going to see why the adventure path is sometimes said to be painful, as well as why I recruited six of them.
No bludgeoning weapons, unfortunately - I'm just going to brute-force it with my longsword. Two-handed, I get 1d8+6 damage, +1 if I Arcane Strike, so I'm guaranteed to do damage if I hit. Will probably pick up a club later, though.
No bludgeoning weapons, unfortunately - I'm just going to brute-force it with my longsword. Two-handed, I get 1d8+6 damage, +1 if I Arcane Strike, so I'm guaranteed to do damage if I hit. Will probably pick up a club later, though.
Please take Arrian's club. Zel will then hit for 1d6+6 (2H) plus his Arcane Strike and he won't take 5 off for the DR.
Yeah Zel might be the best one for the club. Ano only has a strength modifier of +1; she’s very much meant to be a Dex based attacker. and right now her only gameplan is to just keep swinging and striking and hope for the best.
Edit: aaaand I scored a crit. wow.
Yeah. It'd be an active detriment on Juriya as well. 7 Str character intended to be a DEX based attacker.
2nd level she gets 4 bombs from her talent (fluffed as normal alchemist bombs obviously), as well as 3rd level being DEX to damage. 1st level Juriya, however, is kind of pitiful in combat. Wait until we get to roll diplomacy, though. Busted fox.
We're still waiting for Juri to act before we move on with the skellie last stander.
Had a rough night. Will post in a few hours.
No rush.
Cue Terry Crews yelling EXPLOSION! I can't update, but that crit finishes combat. I'll give more info later, but for now feel free to RP end if combat.
And of course the effect of stimulation drugs.
idk how I was able to get two crits off in a row, but I'll take it.
I'll wait for others to RP first
And of course the effect of stimulation drugs.
It's a shame they didn't come up with insight coffee sooner than the edition change. I have a character who'd spend all his spare money on it!
Apologies in advance for any delay in posting - I'll be traveling today and will likely be out of contact.
Have a good trip!
Apologies in advance for any delay in posting - I'll be traveling today and will likely be out of contact.
Hopefully we'll get Zel healed before you land. :)
I’m hoping the game keeps Ano’s bluff rolls as low as possible from now on.
DAH! I've got catching up to do!
gonna wait for Juriya’s response before making a post
Posted.
Sorry for the slowness, I'll update on Monday to get things moving.
That's fine, it gives me time to get caught up! Sleep deprivation is a hell of a drug.
Oh boy, the encounter with Bastard Kaijitsu. This oughta be good.
The party I had for my RotRL campaign had some...choice feelings about him when they got to this part lol
...and there goes Zeldrith. Apologies in advance - he's got a low tolerance for arrogance, and he's more than a bit tipsy himself. Negative Wisdom modifier, activate!
Again, if at any point my character becomes disruptive, say something, and I'll tone him down a bit.
Hey, Zel, I appreciate the outburst (was really cool), but an Intimidate roll on the side wouldn't hurt either :)
I'll let you ride Juri's Diplomacy.
Arrian, are you aiming for the Leadership feat, having Jargie as your cohort to gather information for you?
Arrian, are you aiming for the Leadership feat, having Jargie as your cohort to gather information for you?
I don't think so but I haven't planned that far ahead yet. Right now he's focusing on surviving. :)
Well that turned out better than my group. After Lonjiku grabbed Ameiko by the hair, my party had a 10 minute argument on whether it was morally right to burn his house down xD
Lol...
So, guys, my family and I are on a short vacation trip until Sunday. So please forgive me if I don't show up a lot until Monday.
Lol...
So, guys, my family and I are on a short vacation trip until Sunday. So please forgive me if I don't show up a lot until Monday.
Have a good trip. :)
Hope that wasn't too rough or anything of the sort. That was my inner writer coming out to describe the next few days.
Also, for Juriya and Arrian regarding Fosyo (only saying this cause they're both Ano's friend and would know a bit about her mom):
So, guys, my family and I are on a short vacation trip until Sunday. So please forgive me if I don't show up a lot until Monday.
Have a great trip DM!
I know I’m most likely fine but I wanted to say this to help myself:
What’s going on with Ano is basically me trying something new with a Pathfinder character and increase my love of RPing by giving her story arcs, and it is 100% optional for you to play along. and I am fully committed to join on any story arcs you want to write for your characters.
I fully understand, and much like Ano, I'm happy to play along with any character arcs anyone else may have. Zeldrith doesn't have too much at the moment, but I have a few things in mind for when the party visits Magnimar, and probably some things will grow out of our investigations into Thassilon.
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I know I’m most likely fine but I wanted to say this to help myself:
What’s going on with Ano is basically me trying something new with a Pathfinder character and increase my love of RPing by giving her story arcs, and it is 100% optional for you to play along. and I am fully committed to join on any story arcs you want to write for your characters.
I mean, when you started doin' this my immediate thought was basically "Oh, HELL yeah!" This is what I live for! ;)
Hey Arrian, I found footage of Jargie's pet, Norah! :P
How ad-horr-able! ;)
This is shaping up to be a campaign all-right
I know I’m most likely fine but I wanted to say this to help myself:
What’s going on with Ano is basically me trying something new with a Pathfinder character and increase my love of RPing by giving her story arcs, and it is 100% optional for you to play along. and I am fully committed to join on any story arcs you want to write for your characters.
That's fine. I'm just usually not creative enough for arcs. I put in small little hooks most of the time, but I think they've only ever actually hooked anyone once or twice. Nice writing, by the way!
I forget, does the recipient of a secret message via Bluff still need to make a Sense Motive check to get it or would it be clear to Donimah what Juriya is saying?
That's fine. I'm just usually not creative enough for arcs. I put in small little hooks most of the time, but I think they've only ever actually hooked anyone once or twice. Nice writing, by the way!
Thank you! I like to write stuff, should do that more often. Have some fic ideas for Ano's past that I need to get my procrastinating behind to work on.
I forget, does the recipient of a secret message via Bluff still need to make a Sense Motive check to get it or would it be clear to Donimah what Juriya is saying?
No. You don't. Only others do.
This is shaping up to be a campaign all-right
I don't know if our DM has been reading everything and can't respond due to the trip, but if not, I can just imagine them wondering what we've been up to then reading all of this like "What the hell happened while I was gone?!"
This is shaping up to be a campaign all-rightI don't know if our DM has been reading everything and can't respond due to the trip, but if not, I can just imagine them wondering what we've been up to then reading all of this like "What the hell happened while I was gone?!"
HAha. "Why are we setting up to blackmail Ano's mum" is certainly a thing.
Better to get this out of the way before we head into more plot that you have to explain to Fosyo.
Yeah true, this particular scenario is perfect before the meat of the plot comes along.
Also, Juriya, not sure if this was an error or not, but in one of the posts you typed "secondly, what in Daikitsu's name is the c", wanting to get some clarification on whether that was Juriya hearing about the Oath of the Clovermark, or if it's something else entirely different.
YEah, that was Juriya hearing about the oath. I forgot I had that in there!
@Donimah: That doesn't look good at all. Yikes!
@Juriya: I'm the same with creative writing and trying to get background, details, etc. ironed out can be difficult. I have ideas it's just getting them into writing I find acceptable is where I get into trouble.