Rise of the Runelords

Game Master Veniir

Juriya will decline since she's entirely dex-based, enlarging her makes her even less likely to hit.

And both of Juriya's are farely accurate, though the human form vitiligo should cover roughly the same area as her kitsune form piebaldism does.

Anyone wanna take Donimah's offer of an enlarge person spell up?

Zeldrith could use it, but as we saw at the festival, he doesn't technically qualify on the "person" front.

Once we're at level 3 though, Juriya could use a reduce person, for the record. It'd be detrimental while she doesn't have DEX to damage, though.

My attendance is going to be variable for a bit: my mom's sister, who's kind of been an important part of her life since she was eight, and thus an important part of our family by extension, passed away last night. :(

I'm so sorry Doni! Take your time and be with your family. You'll have your favorite transmuter here when you need her!

Hey folks. I know you guys are nervous, but we can only start fighting after you do surprise round.

I’m so sorry for your loss Donimah

Not to make myself a leader, but what I’m thinking is Persephone, Zeldrith, Donimah and Arrian enter and attack, and Juriya and I go to the other door and attack from behind

My attendance is going to be variable for a bit: my mom's sister, who's kind of been an important part of her life since she was eight, and thus an important part of our family by extension, passed away last night. :(

Deepest condolences and take all the time you need.

Hey folks. I know you guys are nervous, but we can only start fighting after you do surprise round.

I don't want to speak for anyone but I thought the surprise round was us buffing? Then it sounded like it was charge and attack.

Just general chat here, not dictating or judging. Enlarge Person is a situational spell and is often best used in combination with a reach weapon so the PC has 20' reach. It's Achilles' Heel/Balancing Factor are its casting time and the short range. It's designed for a 'come and get us' party rather than a 'CHARGE!' party.
I've never played/run/read this AP but metagaming from the AP's Player's Guide it will be very useful once (if?) the party faces 'giants' or at least size Large bipeds with natural 10' reach.

So, I'm considering that the party saw the goblins and can plan accordingly. If the buffing were to be the surprise round, then there would be initiative before acting next. So in this case you can pre-buff to deal with the situation.

This AP was done considering people were still learning and stuff. So I incremente the encounter a lil bit, but nothing serious. Consider this a lvl 1 handicap for the monsters.

This AP was done considering people were still learning and stuff. So I incremented the encounter a lil bit, but nothing serious. Consider this a lvl 1 handicap for the monsters.

Actually, from what I had heard, Rise of the Runelords is often considered one of the most lethal APs ever written. It was initially made for 3.5 in its later years, so most of the people playing it were quite experienced in the system, but the Paizo staff were still getting their feet under them as far as balance was concerned.

It shouldn't be as much of an issue in the first book, but every adventuring party I've read about who survived the Shadow Clock at the end of Book 2 had to have the final fight toned down from "ludicrously suicidal" to merely "very, very difficult."

I like runes wrote:

This AP was done considering people were still learning and stuff. So I incremented the encounter a lil bit, but nothing serious. Consider this a lvl 1 handicap for the monsters.

Actually, from what I had heard, Rise of the Runelords is often considered one of the most lethal APs ever written. It was initially made for 3.5 in its later years, so most of the people playing it were quite experienced in the system, but the Paizo staff were still getting their feet under them as far as balance was concerned.

It shouldn't be as much of an issue in the first book, but every adventuring party I've read about who survived the Shadow Clock at the end of Book 2 had to have the final fight toned down from "ludicrously suicidal" to merely "very, very difficult."

Yeah, lemme say something about my party of friends I’m running the game with:

Ano, Zel and Arrian enter and take up defensive positions to allow goblins to come to them which will allow Persephone the area of affect for Burning Sands.

EDIT

The spell is 20' radius so keep that in mind when placing Tokens. I will adjust positioning based on goblins positions since Persephone is not fast at Initiative...lol.

Ano, Zel and Arrian enter and take up defensive positions to allow goblins to come to them which will allow Persephone the area of affect for Burning Sands.

Ok now I get it! I'm good with that!

Ano, Zel and Arrian enter and take up defensive positions to allow goblins to come to them which will allow Persephone the area of affect for Burning Sands.

EDIT

The spell is 20' radius so keep that in mind when placing Tokens. I will adjust positioning based on goblins positions since Persephone is not fast at Initiative...lol.

If you could put a template on the map that would really help us out.

Ok let’s clarify what our plan is-Arrian, Persephone, Zeldrith and Donimah go in first and Ano and Juriya catch them by surprise from the other door, or the reverse?

If that's what you want to do or what you think your PCs would do, go for it.

I can get on the laptop tomorrow after work. By then it may be my turn.

Ok yeah, I was thinking Ano and Juriya circling for Juriya to take full use of sneak attack, though there might be a way to do that with all of us together.

Ok yeah, I was thinking Ano and Juriya circling for Juriya to take full use of sneak attack, though there might be a way to do that with all of us together.

Flanking triggers sneak dice and it keeps Ano and Juriya with the rest of the group. Between Ano, Zel, and Arrian one of the PCs should be able to provide Juriya the opportunity to flank a goblin.

Yeah, flanking is probably the best way to go. She'll feint her way there if she can't flank, but full attacking would also give her sneak attack on her bite as well.

I inserted a 20' radius although not the best one I found. I believe it gives you the idea...lol.

Did Juriya and Zeldrith take that goblin down? Trying to pick my target...

If they have the same amount of health as the other gobbos, we should have.

I'm just realizing: half of our party uses rapiers.

If they have the same amount of health as the other gobbos, we should have.

I'm just realizing: half of our party uses rapiers.

Arrian does because he ran out of gold. Once we get money and access I'd like to upgrade him to a falchion particularly when his Str hits 18 through level bumps or magic.

Just wanted to check - are we still able to tweak our builds? At the moment, Zeldrith has the scent ability, but it never comes up, so I was hoping to exchange it for another racial trait.

Just wanted to check - are we still able to tweak our builds? At the moment, Zeldrith has the scent ability, but it never comes up, so I was hoping to exchange it for another racial trait.

I believe the GM gave us until the end of 1st level to adjust but I'd wait for him to confirm that.

Sure, you're close to lvl 2, so finish your tweaks!

Thanks! In hindsight, scent and Survival aren't such a great ability for Zeldrith, especially when Ano has the same ability and Ano always manages to smell things that Zeldrith doesn't. A 1d6+Str bite attack on a primarily martial character, however...

It'll be at -5 because it's a natural attack combined with an artificial attack, but hey, a free extra attack is a free extra attack. As for the extra skill, I think it might be best in Knowledge (History), given the talks Zeldrith has had with Donimah, and two people with the single most likely Knowledge skill to be used in a campaign about ancient history shouldn't step on each others' toes too often.

Yeah, and we already have Ano on the scent side. Juriya as well in her fox form.

Yes, please succeed on your history checks.

Question, can we SEE Lonjiku's glassed body from where we are or will we need to move in further to see the gory Tableau. Just wanna decide if Donimah's gonna laugh in superiority at the team sending the goblins running or make a disgusted noise in horror at what they've done. ;)

Best to have our bases covered. Juriya's skill chicanery (Mindchemist adds INT twice to all Knowledges plus Inspiration) doesn't come online until level 7.

@GM: With Arrian being size Large is it possible for him to step over the table near the PCs and to also step over (and miss) the crushed glass?

Doni: You could see and identify him from the doorframe, so, yes.

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Doni: You could see and identify him from the doorframe, so, yes.

Wow we posted at almost the same time. :)

Well, calculate your carry capacity while enlarged and see if that one slows you down.

Well, calculate your carry capacity while enlarged and see if that one slows you down.

Subtracting out what he doesn't have on him or what he drops as a free action (in a sack) when going into combat he's at 75.5 lbs - right under the Light load of 76 lbs. When Enlarged his carrying capacity increases to 152 lbs. or he could move up to Medium at 306 lbs. which he would still move 30' (Travel Domain) and then carry one or two PCs over the tables, glass on the floor, etc.

All right, then! Pick your load!

DM, would Ano need to make Acrobatics checks to avoid the glass? and which goblin is the closest to her?

Would Juriya need to as well?

All right, then! Pick your load!

Persephone and Juriya are likely small enough, and within his 10' reach, to grab and go.

Ano would need no check.

Juriya needs to jump to reach them.

Persephone and Juriya are likely small enough, and within his 10' reach, to grab and go.

So, they need to say if they consent to this, otherwise you'll need some grapple checks.

Juriya'd consent to it, for the record: no need for checks.

So idk if I want Ano to go the route of one dip into oracle. I heard swashbuckler pairs well with rapier Dex sets but honestly I think it might be easier to go full bloodrager, if not a couple levels in fighter to get some bonus feats

When would the dip have been?

for oracle? 2nd level. but again might drop that for 2 dips into fighter for extra feats. specifically Weapon Focus and Nimble Striker (catfolk combat feat that removes the -2 AC penalty for initiating a charge)

Ah. I think the best plan for Juriya is to go into investigator instead of Alchemist at 4th level, that way she can actually disarm magical traps, as well as a significant perception and sense motive boost.

Granted, that means she's certainly not going to be a healer. She can competently use a wand at 4th level, but doesn't get infusion until 7th level. It's hilarious: Investigator is a hybrid class... of Alchemist and Rogue... the other two classes Juriya will have.

So idk if I want Ano to go the route of one dip into oracle. I heard swashbuckler pairs well with rapier Dex sets but honestly I think it might be easier to go full bloodrager, if not a couple levels in fighter to get some bonus feats

Going 2H weapon later?