Varisian Summoner Eidolon idea. Is this over the top?

[DrkMagusX]

I see my Varisian Alchemist/Summoner with this kind of Eidolon:
Biped Wolf like with Dark blue fur with purple tips and green glowing eyes. Dresses with a Bandana much like the ones pirates uses and loose fitting clothes of Varisian style.

My Alchemist was traveling along and met a Summoner and became friends and learn the art. Figured he could use the aid in combat and in carrying some stuff like alchemy equipment and such. I thought about giving him the int increase to bring it up to a 9.

I m not sure how smart he would be with a 7 int. I wanted him to be able to hold a average conversation with people.

Would like any input on thoughts about this before I finalize it on paper.

[CRobledo]

7 int is perfectly acceptable to hold conversation with. I have met plenty of Fighters and Barbarians with 7 Int and they can talk. Not about poetry or art though, but conversation.

Looks like you are not planning to take more than 1 level of summoner? If so, keep in mind the eidolon will have single digit hp and will not survive a single blow much longer. You probably dont want him in combat even to aid.

[DrkMagusX]

I will give that some thought. Perhaps there are feats to aid in this that will keep the Eidolon from falling behind. I have seen feats that would bring animal companions up for multiclassing druids and Rangers. I wasn't thinking about it from a mechanics prospective.

[Funky Badger]

You won't be able to prepare any alchemist infusions with 7 (or 9) int.

[El Baron de los Banditos]

Funky Badger wrote:

You won't be able to prepare any alchemist infusions with 7 (or 9) int.

I think he means the Eidolon's Int, not his.

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Before you look, Boon Companion (the feat to bolster Animal Companions or Familiars) applies to Animal Companions and Familiars specifically. This doesn't include Eidolons.

You may want to think of him as a burgeoning alchemist by taking ranks of Craft(Alchemy), but never actually going into the class. Multiclassing Alchemist and Summoner can't have any really good mechanical purpose; at least one that I can think of off the top of my head.

[CRobledo]

DrkMagusX wrote:

I will give that some thought. Perhaps there are feats to aid in this that will keep the Eidolon from falling behind. I have seen feats that would bring animal companions up for multiclassing druids and Rangers. I wasn't thinking about it from a mechanics prospective.

Sadly, Eidolons are not Animal Companions, so Boon Companion does not apply to them.

Summoner is one of the classes that suffers the most from multiclassing.

[AndIMustMask]

CRobledo wrote:

DrkMagusX wrote:

I will give that some thought. Perhaps there are feats to aid in this that will keep the Eidolon from falling behind. I have seen feats that would bring animal companions up for multiclassing druids and Rangers. I wasn't thinking about it from a mechanics prospective.

Sadly, Eidolons are not Animal Companions, so Boon Companion does not apply to them.

Summoner is one of the classes that suffers the most from multiclassing.

that it does. it's kind of a shame too, i was kicking around a cavalier/summoner (use your eidolon as a mount for your cavalier charging shenanigans) fun build, but since it's both not an animal (its a 'creature') and its not on the animal companion list, so even the beast rider AT's more robust mount choices cant take it.

although, even if it DID work, it'd be a nightmare to stat.

[DrkMagusX]

Given there is no way to make a effective multiclass Summoner I thought of doing a back up summoner he is the plan tell me if its too much

Small humanoid character that can either reduce size and hide in the backpack the eidolon is carrying or just role play as a child being carried on the shoulders much like people do at concerts or in the pool. I m thinking halfling as they have stuff geared towards looking as a human child. As of right now I have no real reason for this other than roleplay fun lol

[lemeres]

Well, you could always play the eidolon as a skill monkey. Put its points into scent and a skilled evolution in survival so that it can track and perception so it can spot with its darkvision. It could still end up useful.

Even if it is more fragile than the wimpiest familiar, you can still benefit from an intelligent, custom built creature. Plus, you could still benefit from the summoning SLA and some of the spells.

Heck, since you are planning a dip, you might as well go with Master summoner since you would not suffer from having your effective class level delayed. You can also summon while your eidolon is out with that archetype. Even if the monsters summoned are weak, you could use them..."creatively." Now you do not need a rogue to check for traps ever again..hehe.

[Heaggles]

Lemeres: thats a good idea about the master summoner, yea just have your eidolon run out of combat at the first of combat.

[DrkMagusX]

This was Originally posted under society side. Master Summoner is not a legal option for society. Like you said I could make him a porter/Skill monkey and bring him out when needed. I could still use the Summon Monsters for 1 min per level altho the list seems limited