So, I had a concept for a scimitar-wielding Monk follower of Sarenrae (going with a Dervish Dancer build). But the problem is, the scimitar is not a monk weapon, so I wouldn't be able to flurry with it. Is there any way to let me add a weapon to the list of flurry-able weapons? Feats, traits, archetypes, magic items, whatever, I'm just curious if there's options out there to expand my weapon options.
Not that I know of in Pathfinder, however there are 2 or 3 feat chains in the Ebberon Campaign Setting Book (3.5E) that allow other weapons (Longspear, Longsword & something else I think). The feat pre-requisites were 'Weapon Proficiency' & 'Weapon Focus', then taking the feat that allowed it to be a monk weapon. They had fancy kung-fu-move like names which I forget (ex: 'steel splits mountain'). A single dip level of fighter is probably the least painful way to accomplish it. My DM and I had discussed it and agreed it was an acceptable way to go about it with any weapon assuming you asked him first.
So all I have is 3.5E Ebberon/house-rule, likely not helpful, but a start in the right direction as long as it's not PFS. I have also not seen Ultimate Combat yet, so it may or may not have someting similar.
Take a level of cleric. There's a feat in UC that lets clerics use their deity favored weapons as a monk weapon.
So, I had a concept for a scimitar-wielding Monk follower of Sarenrae (going with a Dervish Dancer build). But the problem is, the scimitar is not a monk weapon, so I wouldn't be able to flurry with it. Is there any way to let me add a weapon to the list of flurry-able weapons? Feats, traits, archetypes, magic items, whatever, I'm just curious if there's options out there to expand my weapon options.
I believe there is a archetype in Ultimate Combat that will work, but as I no have book: I don't know for sure.
Re-flavoring the temple sword is probably fine as well, not *exactly* a scimitar, but it is a cruved 1-hander with decent crit (and the trip quality.)
Unfortunately, Dervish Dance (and the favored weapon of Sarenrae) require a scimitar. If there's no legitimate mechanical options, it might just come down to persuading the GM :P
Unfortunately, Dervish Dance (and the favored weapon of Sarenrae) require a scimitar. If there's no legitimate mechanical options, it might just come down to persuading the GM :P
One level of Cleric. Glory (Shield of Faith for a nice AC bonus), and Restoration (to remove some conditions).
Alternatively, just take Crusader Archetype from UC and pick up Weapon Focus.
Assuming Human:
1: Monk, Weapon Finesse
1H: whatever
2: Monk, dodge
3: Cleric, Crusader's Flurry
3 Bonus Feat: Weapon Focus
Now by level 5, you're on track to be using dervish dance. Kinda sucks that it takes that long...
If your GM lets you take feats that you can't use, but not gain any use of them until you can use them, then you should be able to get in earlier.
well you could always ask the GM for a custom monk weapon list. Am I the only one who finds it silly every monk anywhere in every would uses Asian named weapons?
Seriously, am I the only one alive remaining that doesn't get rock hard about dervish builds?
You're not alone. I am actually tired of seeing things like "if it's not this weapon then you might as well not play at all." I love using non-optimized weapons because they are fun.
To the original question, I am considering just letting a monk flurry with any monk weapon and any weapon he has weapon focus with.
I thought there was some new more 'soldier' oriented archetype for monks in UC, but I haven't had a chance to read through the book.
And a Dervish build would be particularly useful for a monk, as they are notorious for being MAD, and being able to just focus on Dexterity would be awesome. The fact that I can flurry with the same weapon means I gain the benefits of TWF while only needing one weapon and one hand. At least I'm attempting to build a character with a legitimate Sarenrae-oriented dervish background, and not just taking the feat for the sake of numbers :P
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Feats, traits, archetypes, magic items, whatever, I'm just curious if there's options out there to expand my weapon options.
Purple Duck Games's 80 Feats... has just the feat for you.
Not that I know of in Pathfinder, however there are 2 or 3 feat chains in the Ebberon Campaign Setting Book (3.5E) that allow other weapons (Longspear, Longsword & something else I think)..."Whirling Steel Strike" allowed a monk to treat a two-bladed sword as a monk weapon, and "Serpent Steel Strike" did the same for the longsword.
There ya go, haven't looked at the Ebberon CS in awhile, but it has/had some great feats assuming you're allowed 3.5E content. The 2-bladed sword was the one I forgot, I'm certain there was one for Longspear as well.
well you could always ask the GM for a custom monk weapon list. Am I the only one who finds it silly every monk anywhere in every would uses Asian named weapons?
This is a very good suggestion as well. Kama, nunchaku, sai, shuriken, and siangham are all exotic and essentially more difficult in a multitude of ways unless you're playing in an Oriental/Asian campaign. Giving up an exotic weapon for a non-exotic seems like a reasonable request/house-rule IMO, that way your proficieny list is still extremely limited.
Right now I'm working on a couple monk variants - one based on Thai martial arts and including the weapons of krabi krabong (the way of sword and staff), so that the Ayutthayan Monk is proficient with scimitar, quarterstaff, paired daab swords, buckler, club, ngao (polearm - "bladed staff"), mae sawk sun (paired forearm clubs), keris, spear, trident, longsword, and vajra.
The other variant is the Monk of the Holy Blade, or Enlightened Swordsman, which swaps out a few of the monk's unarmed combat abilities for similar sword-based ones.
Hopefully some of you will enjoy those when they appear in Paths of Power 2.
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well you could always ask the GM for a custom monk weapon list. Am I the only one who finds it silly every monk anywhere in every would uses Asian named weapons?
I too find it silly, I have custom lists by region for my campaigns. There is considerable cross-over, true, but there are also flavor additions. For example, drow monks from the darklands have access to hand crossbows, varisian monks have access to bladed scarves and star knives, and so on...
