We don't state one way or the other in the LOCG. I've been running under the assumption that half-elves with Ekujae parents could have a wide range of skin tones that reflect their parentage and have been developing our products as such. I can see how the statement from Heroes from the Fringe could be taken as definitive, absolute fact (and we probably could have thrown in the word "typically" in there to prevent this problem in the first place), but we definitely do not want to shut down lighter skinned Ekujae or half-elf Ekujae.
We also don't want to dictate the "correct" skin tone for any people of color within our setting, so make sure to keep this in mind with all characters. If it's a skin tone you can find in the real world, you can find it on Golarion, and then some with the likes of our more extraordinary or fantastical ancestries.
Cool, thankies a bunchies! :D
That's awesome to know that all races have a variety of skin colors! :D
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Bring back the kitsune!
Yesssssssss
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One month to go...
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There've been a few on the blog so far!
Information on ethnicities
Hobgoblins
Leshies
Iruxi/lizardfolk
Firebrands preview
Firebrands fiction
Hellknight fiction
Knights of Lastwall fiction
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There've been a few on the blog so far!
Information on ethnicities
Hobgoblins
Leshies
Iruxi/lizardfolkFirebrands preview
Firebrands fiction
Hellknight fiction
Knights of Lastwall fiction
Thank you.
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Are those... pistols I see in several of these previews? Mayhaps Long John be making his arrival in the Second Edition soon?
Anyone get their authorization email for this yet?
If I preorder the hardcover, will I get the PDF, like in the subscriptions? Or do you only get PDF and hardcover through subscriptions?
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If I preorder the hardcover, will I get the PDF, like in the subscriptions? Or do you only get PDF and hardcover through subscriptions?
Only through subscriptions.
I got the authorization last night.
Authorization ≠ product.
I got my pre-shipping notice. Getting close.
Just got mine a lil bit ago.
Yeah, the October subscription thread says shipping should start today (Oct. 2nd), but with us all getting the Auth just some hours ago, I think it likely that the start of shipping will get delayed.
I am liking the previews so far. Will the Magabaayan Arcanist be in this book">
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There are two archetypes for the Magaambya in this book: Magaambyan Attendant and Halcyon Speaker.
Shipping has started, I just got access to the PDF a few minutes ago.
Cool. Any interesting Ancestry feats?
Is there a way into Hellknight Signifer without taking Hellknight Armiger dedication?
There are two archetypes for the Magaambya in this book: Magaambyan Attendant and Halcyon Speaker.
Shipping has started, I just got access to the PDF a few minutes ago.
Thanks for the information!
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Got my shipping notice; looking forward to this, if only because I want to see all of the ancestry feats we didn't see Zell use on Oblivion Oath!
Bring back the kitsune!Yesssssssss*pokes with a stick*
Write the kitsune!
Gosh, I want to talk about kitsune but I don't want to derail this product thread. Let's make a new thread and geek about kitsune!
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Got my shipping notice; looking forward to this, if only because I want to see all of the ancestry feats we didn't see Zell use on Oblivion Oath!
Gosh, I want to talk about kitsune but I don't want to derail this product thread. Let's make a new thread and geek about kitsune!Bring back the kitsune!Yesssssssss*pokes with a stick*
Write the kitsune!
Make a thread and begin the discussion. :)
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Make a thread and begin the discussion. :)Got my shipping notice; looking forward to this, if only because I want to see all of the ancestry feats we didn't see Zell use on Oblivion Oath!
Gosh, I want to talk about kitsune but I don't want to derail this product thread. Let's make a new thread and geek about kitsune!Bring back the kitsune!Yesssssssss*pokes with a stick*
Write the kitsune!
https://paizo.com/threads/rzs42slk?Kitsune-in-Second-Edition#1
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To anyone who has the pdf, what kind of playable Leshys are in this book? Are Vine Leshys in?
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Four leshy heritages: fungus, gourd, leaf, vine.
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There's a Lastwall section that is full of fun stuff. I'm extremely interested in learning more about "The Crimson Oath"
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The interesting thing in this new guide is that they make honorable mentions of all the more well known ancestries such as Aasimars, Tengu, and Teiflings at the very end of the new ancestries. Does anyone know if this is going to be an ongoing series, where we get a book 2 like how bestiaries are "Bestiary" then "Bestiary 2" or if they're going to incorporate this in a different format? And if you do have those answers can you please point me to where you got them so I can stay in the look instead of constantly asking questions on these forums?
I believe that the next book with lots of ancestries will be the Advanced Player's Guide which will include Aasimars, Catfolk, Changelings, Dhampirs, Duskwalkers, Kobolds, Orcs, Ratfolk, Tengu, and Tieflings. The playtest is supposed to begin this month. I think that this was all announced at a convention.
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So I am a bit confused and disappointed by some of the content in this book. It takes TONS of page space to mention all kinds of heritages for Half-Elves and Half-Orcs but than doesn't actually offer them as heritage options that have any game mechanic differences. Hollowborn(Half-Drow) is mentioned but it isn't something you can choose and has no ancestry feats, compared to 1E such a character can get Darkvision and Light Blindness instead of low-light.
Also two pages are in my opinion wasted on listing a bunch of other common ancestries such as Tiefling and Tengu that exist around the inner sea but doesn't give them as options. This seems confusing and misleading to me this is supposed to be a character guide offering players options for character building and it offers them things they can't have. Who thought this was a good idea?
I love fluff and art but not if it comes at the cost of something else. With the amount of space wasted in this book mentioning things that than can't be used there could easily be many more pages of archetype and ancestry feats. I mean I constantly hear Paizo designers complaining that they have so much stuff they have to cut from books because there isn't room and than you do stuff like this. Not to mention the 1-2 full color advertisements at the back of each book. Why? The bulk of your business is direct to consumer do marketing someplace else.
Maybe I am alone on this but I have sowed these books to my gaming group who love 2E and the actual gaming content but they all think these Lost Omens books are too expensive for what they contain especially compared to some of their 1E equivalent books. The Lost omens World guide which don't get me wrong is an awesome book is crap compared to the Inner Sea World guide The lost omens world guide is almost twice the cost per page and should be closer to $22 than the $35 that all the books in this line seem to be. If the price per content difference is because these are hardcover now I would rather have softcover books at a lesser cost.
I really really like 2E and am subbed but if this line continues to offer more waste I may just drop back to only the AP sub and just wait for the expanded content to hit AoN.
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There is an important difference between in-world ethnicities (a lore and world distinction) and in-game heritages (a mechanical distinction). Members of a given ethnicity are not locked into only one mechanical option, though they may tend towards one or more in particular, to give you the maximum possible options for your character. I would expect many a Hollowborn might take Elf Atavism (Cavern Elf heritage) to get darkvision, but not all of them have to do so, if you prefer a different feat.
There is an important difference between in-world ethnicities (a lore and world distinction) and in-game heritages (a mechanical distinction). Members of a given ethnicity are not locked into only one mechanical option, though they may tend towards one or more in particular, to give you the maximum possible options for your character. I would expect many a Hollowborn might take Elf Atavism (Cavern Elf heritage) to get darkvision, but not all of them have to do so, if you prefer a different feat.
I get that and appreciate you clarifying part of my post even though it is filled with aggressive criticism. However there should imo be at least more ancestry feats for the half breeds like this to make them more unique instead of just apeing from their parents.
Half-breeds?
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Well, I for one am glad Robin Williams made it into the book as a Paraheen Dwarf.
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There is an important difference between in-world ethnicities (a lore and world distinction) and in-game heritages (a mechanical distinction). Members of a given ethnicity are not locked into only one mechanical option, though they may tend towards one or more in particular, to give you the maximum possible options for your character. I would expect many a Hollowborn might take Elf Atavism (Cavern Elf heritage) to get darkvision, but not all of them have to do so, if you prefer a different feat.
I have to say that I really appreciate this. Having some options to individualize characters without worrying about mechanical effects is really nice.
I m likinG What I am seeing for the various races.
Half-breeds?
Half-;Elves, Orcs and all manner of Planetouched such as Tiefling, Aasimar, Sylph, Oread ect.
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It's just a horrible way to say it.
Half-breeds?Half-;Elves, Orcs and all manner of Planetouched such as Tiefling, Aasimar, Sylph, Oread ect.
For the people who have this book, what stands out for you ?Which of the three new races in your opinion has the most possibilitys ?The same question for the organizations? Just curious on what people think.
