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This is looking cool.
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- So the Magaambya Archtype isn't the one in the LOWG.
- 10 new heritages for each of the core races? Or a total of 10?
- Lizardfolk!!! Lizardfolk druid, I can't wait to play you... *~*
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If it were 10 new heritages for each core race, do you really think they would pass up the chance to say that they were introducing 60 new heritages?
I am still waiting for those 50 additional hybrid classes in volumes 2-6 of the Advanced Class Guide adventure path. I guess that adventure path will never be completed? I did notice that the first volume was a little short on plot for such a big book. ;)
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I wish for the future where spiders are considered as cute as kittens ;-; ...
Well, I consider spiders - ok, jumping spiders - to be cute!
Oh, & kittens, too...
:D
--C.
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Firebrands...color me intrigued.
Though...the "naked" Lizardfolk in the middle of a blizzard kind of perplexes me.
If it were 10 new heritages for each core race, do you really think they would pass up the chance to say that they were introducing 60 new heritages?
Well, I can't see a reason to include 10 heritages in a book an announce it as something appealing.
I mean, unless we are talking about heritages that work like half-elf and half-orc, heritages are minor bonuses, and ten of them could easily be covered in 2-4 pages.
So, I'm expecting something more appealing, something like 10 new heritages for each core race. *w*
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I am still waiting for those 50 additional hybrid classes in volumes 2-6 of the Advanced Class Guide adventure path. I guess that adventure path will never be completed? I did notice that the first volume was a little short on plot for such a big book. ;)
"Advanced Class Guide adventure path"? Nani desu ka?
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Though...the "naked" Lizardfolk in the middle of a blizzard kind of perplexes me.
I believe they prefer "clothes-impaired Iruxi"
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I am still waiting for those 50 additional hybrid classes in volumes 2-6 of the Advanced Class Guide adventure path. I guess that adventure path will never be completed? I did notice that the first volume was a little short on plot for such a big book. ;)"Advanced Class Guide adventure path"? Nani desu ka?
It was an error on the cover of the first printing of the Advanced Class Guide.
"Advanced Class Guide adventure path"? Nani desu ka?It was an error on the cover of the first printing of the Advanced Class Guide.
Oh! I'd forgotten about that! :-)
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Arachnophobe Warning: There is a spider on page 99.Thankies for the head's up :3
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The Achilles Heel! At last...
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Lizardfolk!?!
You have my attention.
I really expected a wait of at least a few months after release until we started getting additional content.
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I'm just hoping that the Lizardfolk don't get such a massive Intelligence penalty that it can't be overcome. I've wanted to play a Lizard-Wizard for a long time.
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Their Int penalty, if any, can't be worse than -2 -- and we already know that the Core Rulebook will have a way to overcome even that.
do you have the red crimson assassin prestige class in this book ? HI hope yes but in think is just a matter of time when this prestige class come.
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do you have the red crimson assassin prestige class in this book ? HI hope yes but in think is just a matter of time when this prestige class come.
There are no prestige classes in Pathfinder 2 anymore, but the red mantis assassin archetype will be in the Lost Omens World Guide.
ok sorry for the bad term and thanks for the quick answer.
I've collected some information about the Character Guide over here
Disappointing this wasn’t just combined with the Lost Omens World Guide. I’m guessing all setting hardcovers are going to be around 130 pages going forward :( a substantial price increase compared with the Pathfinder 1e hardcovers. But I guess that’s just reality in modern RPG industry.
Pretty cool to see the content of the book. It seems a much better approach for prestige classes compared with PF1e.
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I don’t understand how they’re choosing ancestries. The three listed ones just seem so random.
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I don’t understand how they’re choosing ancestries. The three listed ones just seem so random.
I am not excited about playing Hobgoblins (which are now small in Second Edition) or Leshy (which seem to be more in the line of "fun characters" for a special kind of storytelling, like Goblins and Skittermander have been in the past).
Lizardfolk have been staple player characters in lots of other fantasy rpgs and i don't know why it took so long to make them playable in Pathfinder, but they are a welcome addition.
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I don’t understand how they’re choosing ancestries. The three listed ones just seem so random.
Maybe, just maybe, Paizo has data and feedback which show that lizardfolk, hobgobs and leshies are super popular with the fanbase and doing them first is a sound idea.
That, or they're just throwing darts at a board with ancestries and pick the three that get the most hits.
I guess it's throwing darts, sounds like something a serious business would do.
I am not excited about playing Hobgoblins (which are now small in Second Edition)I do not believe they are.
They are medium creatures, as they had the Medium trait in the playtestiary. Or at least that was the case in the playtest.
We already have small goblinoids, the goblins, so I hope hobgoblins are still their medium cousins. That's also the case in Starfinder.
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I am not excited about playing Hobgoblins (which are now small in Second Edition)I do not believe they are.They are medium creatures, as they had the Medium trait in the playtestiary. Or at least that was the case in the playtest.
We already have small goblinoids, the goblins, so I hope hobgoblins are still their medium cousins. That's also the case in Starfinder.
Yep.
Their look got overhauled so that they look more like goblins, but with lanky limbs, and are still Medium.
I am not excited about playing Hobgoblins (which are now small in Second Edition) [...]
What gives you the idea that hobgoblins were now Small?
I like the wending
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I don’t understand how they’re choosing ancestries. The three listed ones just seem so random.Maybe, just maybe, Paizo has data and feedback which show that lizardfolk, hobgobs and leshies are super popular with the fanbase and doing them first is a sound idea.
That, or they're just throwing darts at a board with ancestries and pick the three that get the most hits.
I guess it's throwing darts, sounds like something a serious business would do.
Sure. But where the heck are all these Leshy players coming from that they manage to outnumber players of aasimar, tieflings, kitsune, tengu, ratfolk, etc, etc.
Is there some massive leshy online community someone can point me to? I’d love to learn more about these players.
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That, or they're just throwing darts at a board with ancestries and pick the three that get the most hits.I guess it's throwing darts, sounds like something a serious business would do.
Whoever has the current Time Crisis high score gets to decide. We use Super Street Fighter II for tie-breakers.
Fingers crossed for this weekend's tournament, if I win we get centaurs and haunted musical instruments as the next two PC ancestries.
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... and haunted musical instruments as the next two PC ancestries.
#definitelynottrue
...but surely it could be true, if we wished hard enough? Imagine a cello in plate mail!
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...but surely it could be true, if we wished hard enough? Imagine a cello in plate mail!... and haunted musical instruments as the next two PC ancestries.
#definitelynottrue
The image in my head was more of a lute loading and firing arrows with its own strings, but you've intrigued me with Cello Tank (Champion Cello?)
Slightly closer to the topic, I'm excited for leshys as a PC ancestry. Vendimio Picante returns!
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Sure. But where the heck are all these Leshy players coming from that they manage to outnumber players of aasimar, tieflings, kitsune, tengu, ratfolk, etc, etc.
One thing to consider is that this book is part of the series still focused on the Inner Sea region. Kitsune, tengu, and ratfolk are more strongly associated with Tian Xia. Hobgoblins were heavily featured in an AP that changed the course of the Inner Sea and now occupy their own nation in the center of it. Lizardfolk have been becoming more prominent parts of Inner Sea society as cultures that oppressed or ostracized them have lost some of their grip on international politics. I'm not sure where all the leshys came from (I assume it's actually either really horrific and part of some plot by Dark Tapestry cultists or a completely accidental effect of certain events in Tyrant's Grasp), but presumably the reason all three ancestries were chosen is that they're relevant to the current state of the Inner Sea in a significant way. Just because something popular didn't show up in this specific book doesn't mean that it won't show up somewhere in a more appropriate book.
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Sure. But where the heck are all these Leshy players coming from that they manage to outnumber players of aasimar, tieflings, kitsune, tengu, ratfolk, etc, etc.
One thing to consider is that this book is part of the series still focused on the Inner Sea region. Kitsune, tengu, and ratfolk are more strongly associated with Tian Xia. Hobgoblins were heavily featured in an AP that changed the course of the Inner Sea and now occupy their own nation in the center of it. Lizardfolk have been becoming more prominent parts of Inner Sea society as cultures that oppressed or ostracized them have lost some of their grip on international politics. I'm not sure where all the leshys came from (I assume it's actually either really horrific and part of some plot by Dark Tapestry cultists or a completely accidental effect of certain events in Tyrant's Grasp), but presumably the reason all three ancestries were chosen is that they're relevant to the current state of the Inner Sea in a significant way. Just because something popular didn't show up in this specific book doesn't mean that it won't show up somewhere in a more appropriate book.
I kind of expect we are going to see a RPG line book that contains a large number of Ancestries in the near future. I am guessing that is where a lot of the big ones are going to be.
I am still waiting for those 50 additional hybrid classes in volumes 2-6 of the Advanced Class Guide adventure path. I guess that adventure path will never be completed? I did notice that the first volume was a little short on plot for such a big book. ;)"Advanced Class Guide adventure path"? Nani desu ka?It was an error on the cover of the first printing of the Advanced Class Guide.
Wow. Never noticed that until now. Colour me stupid
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Would heritage cover things like Drow or Duergar? I'd love to see some options for them in this book. A little sad that we aren't seeing an Orc ancestry yet considering we have orc ancestry feats. Hobgoblins are one step closer to my personal favorite though, Bugbears!
Their Int penalty, if any, can't be worse than -2 -- and we already know that the Core Rulebook will have a way to overcome even that.
And lizardfolk are being described as "inquisitive" in the product description. That makes me doubt that they have an Int penalty.
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Their Int penalty, if any, can't be worse than -2 -- and we already know that the Core Rulebook will have a way to overcome even that.And lizardfolk are being described as "inquisitive" in the product description. That makes me doubt that they have an Int penalty.
Going off Beyond the Pool of Stars (really need to read the sequel) I'd say they have a Charisma penalty, they're not dumb or unaware.
Their Int penalty, if any, can't be worse than -2 -- and we already know that the Core Rulebook will have a way to overcome even that.And lizardfolk are being described as "inquisitive" in the product description. That makes me doubt that they have an Int penalty.
Hmm. That's pretty exciting!