Pathfinder Lost Omens Character Guide

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Pathfinder Lost Omens Character Guide

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An adventurer's life can be difficult, but long journeys and heavy burdens are easier when you have company. This guide to the world of Pathfinder presents the people and organizations that can help—or hinder—heroes like you!

The Lost Omens Character Guide features new heritages and feats for existing ancestries, as well as three brand–new ancestries for unusual heroes forging a place for themselves in an uncertain age. Join five of Golarion's most influential organizations, fight alongside the rank–and–file members provided in these pages, or clash against them in pursuit of your own passions and goals!

This must-have 136-page guidebook for characters of all types introduces three new ancestries to the Second Edition of the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game—the regimented and warlike hobgoblin, the plant-like leshy, and the inquisitive lizardfolk—provides 10 new heritages for the game's core ancestries, offers nearly 100 new ancestry feats, and presents 10 new archetypes to allow characters of any class to participate in the world's most notable organizations, from the adventurous Pathfinder Society to the rabble-rousing Firebrands to the magical masters of the Magaambya!

ISBN: 978-1-64078-193-1

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Disappointed

2/5

Had a long review on why I was disappointed however it would not save so Just the short version. Save your money and skip this one unless its on a deep sale. Not enough useful information and the 3 new races are a joke. Not my cup a tea that for sure.


Another great Pathfinder 2E product!

5/5

This is probably my favorite of the 2E products released thus far (excluding the core rulebook of course).

Not a thick book by any means, but Paizo managed to fill ever last corner with an insane amount of valuable information that was as fun to read as it will be to implement in our 2e game. I feel like there was no wasted space in this book. New ancestries, new heritages, new archtypes, new feats, and plenty of lore to go along with it. Extremely high quality product from Paizo. Pathfinder 2e has become my TRPG of choice, and many of my gaming groups are converting over to Paizo's masterpiece from 5e, some of which are old Pathfinder purists, and others that are entirely new to Golarion. This is an exciting time to be a table top gamer!


Great book for world building and player options.

5/5

This is in the running for one of my favorite books from Paizo overall.

The new Ancestries are thematic and help flesh out the options available to players who want to play 2E in homebrew settings or on Golarion proper. The new heritages feel like they belong and are exciting to see. The Ancestry feats look fun, and this book made me excited about the concept of playing a Goblin character were I wasn't really considering it before.

Then, you get the Organizations. While we already know most of them in at least name, the options made available by way of equipment, feats, spells, and archetypes are full of flavor and power. I'll also admit that the part that stood out the most to me was the full text of the Crimson Oath and the names for some of the Pathfinder Agent feats? I laughed out loud from at least one of them.

I highly recommend this product, and I'm excited to make use of it in both my home games and eventually in Organized Play!


Lots of cool stuff

5/5

Ancestories and Archtypes abound, along with a sprinkling of magic items, and a healthy dose of lore / setting information. Loving 2E so far.


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This is looking cool.


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- So the Magaambya Archtype isn't the one in the LOWG.

- 10 new heritages for each of the core races? Or a total of 10?

- Lizardfolk!!! Lizardfolk druid, I can't wait to play you... *~*


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If it were 10 new heritages for each core race, do you really think they would pass up the chance to say that they were introducing 60 new heritages?

I am still waiting for those 50 additional hybrid classes in volumes 2-6 of the Advanced Class Guide adventure path. I guess that adventure path will never be completed? I did notice that the first volume was a little short on plot for such a big book. ;)

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Arachnophobe Warning: There is a spider on page 99.

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Eleanor Ferron wrote:
Arachnophobe Warning: There is a spider on page 99.

Thankies for the head's up :3

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I wish for the future where spiders are considered as cute as kittens ;-;

(that or all animal phobias get equal treatment)

(ah well, at least phobia of snakes isn't as common as aracnophobia, I'd be sad if cute sneks got badly treated as often as well)


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CorvusMask wrote:
I wish for the future where spiders are considered as cute as kittens ;-; ...

Well, I consider spiders - ok, jumping spiders - to be cute!

Oh, & kittens, too...

:D

--C.


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Firebrands...color me intrigued.

Though...the "naked" Lizardfolk in the middle of a blizzard kind of perplexes me.


David knott 242 wrote:
If it were 10 new heritages for each core race, do you really think they would pass up the chance to say that they were introducing 60 new heritages?

Well, I can't see a reason to include 10 heritages in a book an announce it as something appealing.

I mean, unless we are talking about heritages that work like half-elf and half-orc, heritages are minor bonuses, and ten of them could easily be covered in 2-4 pages.

So, I'm expecting something more appealing, something like 10 new heritages for each core race. *w*


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David knott 242 wrote:
I am still waiting for those 50 additional hybrid classes in volumes 2-6 of the Advanced Class Guide adventure path. I guess that adventure path will never be completed? I did notice that the first volume was a little short on plot for such a big book. ;)

"Advanced Class Guide adventure path"? Nani desu ka?


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VerBeeker wrote:
Though...the "naked" Lizardfolk in the middle of a blizzard kind of perplexes me.

I believe they prefer "clothes-impaired Iruxi"


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Ed Reppert wrote:
David knott 242 wrote:
I am still waiting for those 50 additional hybrid classes in volumes 2-6 of the Advanced Class Guide adventure path. I guess that adventure path will never be completed? I did notice that the first volume was a little short on plot for such a big book. ;)
"Advanced Class Guide adventure path"? Nani desu ka?

It was an error on the cover of the first printing of the Advanced Class Guide.


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David knott 242 wrote:
Ed Reppert wrote:


"Advanced Class Guide adventure path"? Nani desu ka?

It was an error on the cover of the first printing of the Advanced Class Guide.

Oh! I'd forgotten about that! :-)

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Eleanor Ferron wrote:
Arachnophobe Warning: There is a spider on page 99.

A damn adorable spider at that! <3


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Rysky wrote:
Eleanor Ferron wrote:
Arachnophobe Warning: There is a spider on page 99.
Thankies for the head's up :3

O.O

<.<

>.>

*whispers* The Achilles Heel! At last...

*sneaks off to plot*


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Lizardfolk!?!

You have my attention.


I really expected a wait of at least a few months after release until we started getting additional content.


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I'm just hoping that the Lizardfolk don't get such a massive Intelligence penalty that it can't be overcome. I've wanted to play a Lizard-Wizard for a long time.


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Their Int penalty, if any, can't be worse than -2 -- and we already know that the Core Rulebook will have a way to overcome even that.


do you have the red crimson assassin prestige class in this book ? HI hope yes but in think is just a matter of time when this prestige class come.

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demiurge108 wrote:
do you have the red crimson assassin prestige class in this book ? HI hope yes but in think is just a matter of time when this prestige class come.

There are no prestige classes in Pathfinder 2 anymore, but the red mantis assassin archetype will be in the Lost Omens World Guide.


ok sorry for the bad term and thanks for the quick answer.


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I've collected some information about the Character Guide over here


Disappointing this wasn’t just combined with the Lost Omens World Guide. I’m guessing all setting hardcovers are going to be around 130 pages going forward :( a substantial price increase compared with the Pathfinder 1e hardcovers. But I guess that’s just reality in modern RPG industry.

Pretty cool to see the content of the book. It seems a much better approach for prestige classes compared with PF1e.


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I don’t understand how they’re choosing ancestries. The three listed ones just seem so random.

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John Lynch 106 wrote:
I don’t understand how they’re choosing ancestries. The three listed ones just seem so random.

I am not excited about playing Hobgoblins (which are now small in Second Edition) or Leshy (which seem to be more in the line of "fun characters" for a special kind of storytelling, like Goblins and Skittermander have been in the past).

Lizardfolk have been staple player characters in lots of other fantasy rpgs and i don't know why it took so long to make them playable in Pathfinder, but they are a welcome addition.

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John Lynch 106 wrote:
I don’t understand how they’re choosing ancestries. The three listed ones just seem so random.

Maybe, just maybe, Paizo has data and feedback which show that lizardfolk, hobgobs and leshies are super popular with the fanbase and doing them first is a sound idea.

That, or they're just throwing darts at a board with ancestries and pick the three that get the most hits.

I guess it's throwing darts, sounds like something a serious business would do.

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Marco Massoudi wrote:
I am not excited about playing Hobgoblins (which are now small in Second Edition)

I do not believe they are.


Rysky wrote:
Marco Massoudi wrote:
I am not excited about playing Hobgoblins (which are now small in Second Edition)
I do not believe they are.

They are medium creatures, as they had the Medium trait in the playtestiary. Or at least that was the case in the playtest.

We already have small goblinoids, the goblins, so I hope hobgoblins are still their medium cousins. That's also the case in Starfinder.

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The Gold Sovereign wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Marco Massoudi wrote:
I am not excited about playing Hobgoblins (which are now small in Second Edition)
I do not believe they are.

They are medium creatures, as they had the Medium trait in the playtestiary. Or at least that was the case in the playtest.

We already have small goblinoids, the goblins, so I hope hobgoblins are still their medium cousins. That's also the case in Starfinder.

Yep.

Their look got overhauled so that they look more like goblins, but with lanky limbs, and are still Medium.


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Marco Massoudi wrote:
I am not excited about playing Hobgoblins (which are now small in Second Edition) [...]

What gives you the idea that hobgoblins were now Small?


I like the wending


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Gorbacz wrote:
John Lynch 106 wrote:
I don’t understand how they’re choosing ancestries. The three listed ones just seem so random.

Maybe, just maybe, Paizo has data and feedback which show that lizardfolk, hobgobs and leshies are super popular with the fanbase and doing them first is a sound idea.

That, or they're just throwing darts at a board with ancestries and pick the three that get the most hits.

I guess it's throwing darts, sounds like something a serious business would do.

Sure. But where the heck are all these Leshy players coming from that they manage to outnumber players of aasimar, tieflings, kitsune, tengu, ratfolk, etc, etc.

Is there some massive leshy online community someone can point me to? I’d love to learn more about these players.

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Gorbacz wrote:


That, or they're just throwing darts at a board with ancestries and pick the three that get the most hits.

I guess it's throwing darts, sounds like something a serious business would do.

Whoever has the current Time Crisis high score gets to decide. We use Super Street Fighter II for tie-breakers.

Fingers crossed for this weekend's tournament, if I win we get centaurs and haunted musical instruments as the next two PC ancestries.

#definitelynottrue

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Michael Sayre wrote:

... and haunted musical instruments as the next two PC ancestries.

#definitelynottrue

...but surely it could be true, if we wished hard enough? Imagine a cello in plate mail!

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Andrew Mullen wrote:
Michael Sayre wrote:

... and haunted musical instruments as the next two PC ancestries.

#definitelynottrue

...but surely it could be true, if we wished hard enough? Imagine a cello in plate mail!

The image in my head was more of a lute loading and firing arrows with its own strings, but you've intrigued me with Cello Tank (Champion Cello?)

Slightly closer to the topic, I'm excited for leshys as a PC ancestry. Vendimio Picante returns!

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John Lynch 106 wrote:

Sure. But where the heck are all these Leshy players coming from that they manage to outnumber players of aasimar, tieflings, kitsune, tengu, ratfolk, etc, etc.

One thing to consider is that this book is part of the series still focused on the Inner Sea region. Kitsune, tengu, and ratfolk are more strongly associated with Tian Xia. Hobgoblins were heavily featured in an AP that changed the course of the Inner Sea and now occupy their own nation in the center of it. Lizardfolk have been becoming more prominent parts of Inner Sea society as cultures that oppressed or ostracized them have lost some of their grip on international politics. I'm not sure where all the leshys came from (I assume it's actually either really horrific and part of some plot by Dark Tapestry cultists or a completely accidental effect of certain events in Tyrant's Grasp), but presumably the reason all three ancestries were chosen is that they're relevant to the current state of the Inner Sea in a significant way. Just because something popular didn't show up in this specific book doesn't mean that it won't show up somewhere in a more appropriate book.


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Ssalarn wrote:
John Lynch 106 wrote:

Sure. But where the heck are all these Leshy players coming from that they manage to outnumber players of aasimar, tieflings, kitsune, tengu, ratfolk, etc, etc.

One thing to consider is that this book is part of the series still focused on the Inner Sea region. Kitsune, tengu, and ratfolk are more strongly associated with Tian Xia. Hobgoblins were heavily featured in an AP that changed the course of the Inner Sea and now occupy their own nation in the center of it. Lizardfolk have been becoming more prominent parts of Inner Sea society as cultures that oppressed or ostracized them have lost some of their grip on international politics. I'm not sure where all the leshys came from (I assume it's actually either really horrific and part of some plot by Dark Tapestry cultists or a completely accidental effect of certain events in Tyrant's Grasp), but presumably the reason all three ancestries were chosen is that they're relevant to the current state of the Inner Sea in a significant way. Just because something popular didn't show up in this specific book doesn't mean that it won't show up somewhere in a more appropriate book.

I kind of expect we are going to see a RPG line book that contains a large number of Ancestries in the near future. I am guessing that is where a lot of the big ones are going to be.


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David knott 242 wrote:
Ed Reppert wrote:
David knott 242 wrote:
I am still waiting for those 50 additional hybrid classes in volumes 2-6 of the Advanced Class Guide adventure path. I guess that adventure path will never be completed? I did notice that the first volume was a little short on plot for such a big book. ;)
"Advanced Class Guide adventure path"? Nani desu ka?

It was an error on the cover of the first printing of the Advanced Class Guide.

Wow. Never noticed that until now. Colour me stupid


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Would heritage cover things like Drow or Duergar? I'd love to see some options for them in this book. A little sad that we aren't seeing an Orc ancestry yet considering we have orc ancestry feats. Hobgoblins are one step closer to my personal favorite though, Bugbears!

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Has there been any word, I know it might be early, when the tengu and kitsune might be released?


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David knott 242 wrote:
Their Int penalty, if any, can't be worse than -2 -- and we already know that the Core Rulebook will have a way to overcome even that.

And lizardfolk are being described as "inquisitive" in the product description. That makes me doubt that they have an Int penalty.

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David knott 242 wrote:
David knott 242 wrote:
Their Int penalty, if any, can't be worse than -2 -- and we already know that the Core Rulebook will have a way to overcome even that.

And lizardfolk are being described as "inquisitive" in the product description. That makes me doubt that they have an Int penalty.

Going off Beyond the Pool of Stars (really need to read the sequel) I'd say they have a Charisma penalty, they're not dumb or unaware.


David knott 242 wrote:
David knott 242 wrote:
Their Int penalty, if any, can't be worse than -2 -- and we already know that the Core Rulebook will have a way to overcome even that.

And lizardfolk are being described as "inquisitive" in the product description. That makes me doubt that they have an Int penalty.

Hmm. That's pretty exciting!

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