You're A Lizard, Harry

Friday, September 6, 2019

Those of you who have been following the Oblivion Oath campaign on Paizo’s Twitch channel are likely already familiar with Zel, the lizardfolk adventurer who has been caught up in strange and frankly creepy events beyond his control. Jason Bulmahn stressed that lizardfolk—or iruxi, as they call themselves—would not be a player ancestry in the Pathfinder 2E Core Rulebook, but us developers have known for a while that they’d be quickly following along on the Core Rulebook’s coattails. In fact, Zel has been using the final lizardfolk ancestry rules for a while, and with the upcoming release of the Lost Omens Character Guide, you’ll soon be able to do the same!

In the case of the Pathfinder developers and designers, this also gives us an opportunity to expand upon lizardfolk in ways we haven’t had the opportunity to do so until now. There have been hints of a more robust lizardfolk culture scattered across multiple Paizo products, but oftentimes, those hints never coalesced into anything tangible for the PCs to encounter during adventures. Most meetings with the iruxi follow the exact same template—an isolated tribe of lizardfolk living in simple, ramshackle huts in the middle of a jungle or swamp.

A pair of spear-wielding lizardfolk druids move cautiously through a sinister-looking forest, observed by pairs of glowing red eyes in every bush and tree.

Illustration by Mary Jane Parajon

When outlining the iruxi entry for the Lost Omens Character Guide, I asked for something that was truly primordial. Much like crocodiles or sharks, lizardfolk have been present on Golarion for spans of time that are unfathomable to the human mindset. Iruxi are old enough that some of their treasured ancestors are actually fossils. They had nations that were ancient before the elves even set foot on the planet, and they survived through the destruction of Earthfall not by fleeing or by magic, but by simple virtue of their nature as highly adapted predators. They may not have changed in millions—or even billions—of years, but that’s because they’re so well-evolved for their lifestyle that they haven’t needed to.

(Though if we follow the crocodile and shark metaphors too far, that might imply the existence of titanic lizardfolk that existed in prehistoric times. Eek!)

With the inexorable advance of faster-lived mammalian peoples across the globe, however, the iruxi are finding they cannot keep solely to themselves and their old ways anymore. Lizardfolk have so far preferred to be patient and think things through thoroughly before acting, but the tide is starting to turn, and more iruxi are turning their gaze to collaboration with other civilizations. Like hobgoblins and leshies, lizardfolk are an Uncommon ancestry. They are most welcome in lands such as the Mwangi Expanse, where the iruxi nation of Droon in southern Garund is a well-known fact, or in lawless wilds such as the River Kingdoms or the deserts of the Golden Road. While an iruxi might find acceptance elsewhere, many people react to lizardfolk in the same way that they might respond to finding a large alligator lying on their sofa and wearing their slippers. That is to say, for all you reptile fans out there who are about to claim to be delighted by such a thing, not well.

A crouching green lizardfolk with a huge, muscular tail uses a crude knife to open a clam.

Illustration by Mary Jane Parajon

Lizardfolk get 8 Hit Points from their ancestry, are Medium, and have a speed of 25 feet. A lizardfolk speaks Common and Iruxi, plus any additional languages they might pick up. As apex predators, they get an ability boost to Strength, and their incredible patience in the face of pressure and adversary gets them another ability boost in Wisdom. They also get one free ability boost to put in any score. Much like snakes, sharks, and crocodiles, lizardfolk don’t tend to focus much on knowledge outside of the practical, so they get an ability flaw to Intelligence. Neither lizardfolk nor their unfortunate prey consider this much of a weakness, however—lizardfolk are hard to fool, possess razor sharp claws that grant them an unarmed strike, and have the ability to hold their breath for a long time while they quietly lie in wait.

Many iruxi ancestry feats focus on enhancing their physical prowess, as they learn to adapt their formidable natural abilities to an adventuring lifestyle. Iruxi can gain a powerful tail whip attack, use their affinity for natural terrain to catch foes off balance, and further hone their skills with unarmed combat. They also have a few reptilian tricks up their sleeves, such as the ability granted by the following ancestry feat:

SHED TAIL (reaction)FEAT 5
LIZARDFOLK
Prerequisites: Tail Whip
Trigger: You become grabbed.
Requirements: You have a fully grown tail.

You can shed your tail to escape. You cease being grabbed, then Stride without triggering any reactions from the creature that grabbed you. It takes 1 week for your tail to fully grow back. Until it does, you can’t use your tail unarmed attack, and you take a –2 circumstance penalty on checks to Balance.

A stern-looking gray lizardfolk with a row of spines running down its back clutches an ornately carved pointed bone weapon in one hand.

Illustration by Mary Jane Parajon

Along with suggestions for some common Core Rulebook backgrounds appropriate for lizardfolk, the iruxi ancestry entry also notes lizardfolk culture’s love of astrology. As one of the first societies to master telling time by the stars, astrological divination followed soon after, and has become both a point of pride and a way of life to most iruxi. This love of astronomy has found lizardfolk a few friends in the form of displaced Lirgeni astrologers, and GMs might even consider allowing iruxi PCs to take Lirgeni human astrology feats present in earlier sections of the Lost Omens Character Guide!

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I'm pretty excited about these dudes being playable soon. Also, I'm impressed that you guys are going out of your way to give the "savage" ancestries a lot more depth. Kudos.


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That Shed Tail ancestry feat is amazing. Exactly the type of flavourful but still useful feats I want to see in the future of this edition.


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Iruxi sound great! Eagerly anticipating rolling up one as soon as I get my hands on the material.

Small quibble.. you mention geologic timescales here of millions and then billions of years. I'm with you on the millions *thumbs up*. But the billions? Macroscopic life on this planet has been around for a tad over a half billion years. Are we officially saying that geologically speaking Golarion is much older than the Earth? That is certainly possible and could have interesting ramifications moving forward *cough* Absalom station *cough*. Or is that just a moment of exaggeration that got out of hand?


Shed Tail is genius. Can't wait to play that trick :-)

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(Though if we follow the crocodile and shark metaphors too far, that might imply the existence of titanic lizardfolk that existed in prehistoric times. Eek!)

Isn't that what saurians are? :D

Also, they predicted the reptile fan replies well :'D

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The pun for this post's headline is terrible. But the news inside made up for it!


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Zi Mishkal wrote:
Small quibble.. you mention geologic timescales here of millions and then billions of years. I'm with you on the millions *thumbs up*. But the billions? Macroscopic life on this planet has been around for a tad over a half billion years. Are we officially saying that geologically speaking Golarion is much older than the Earth? That is certainly possible and could have interesting ramifications moving forward *cough* Absalom station *cough*. Or is that just a moment of exaggeration that got out of hand?

I think the timescale on Golarion is supposed to be much longer than the timescale on earth. They have had human civilization for much longer than we have, so why not? The cutoff for "everything before this period is kind of uncertain; we don't have good records or surviving ruins" on Golarion is ten thousand years ago, after all.


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many people react to lizardfolk in the same way that they might respond to finding a large alligator lying on their sofa and wearing their slippers.

I would be horrified. I mean, if it's not also wearing one of the silk dressing gowns I have in store for just such unexpected visitors, or swirling a large brandy from one of my crystal goblets, then what does that say about me as a host?

Nothing good, that's what.


Awesome! Between this and Leshi's I'm stoked.


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Love this, and love the confirmation of Lirgeni material in the book, too!


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As excited as I am for lizardfolk, I'm... concerned about a feat taking a *week* to effectively recharge, while hurting out other feats that rely on the same limb.

Sure, it meets flavour- but it's going to suck for the player who uses it if the game's timescale doesn't allow for that week of recovery. Especially if the group doesn't have a Regenerate spell around, which is likely at 5th level.


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I have to wonder what grapple an Iruxi is going to get in that is going to be so severely debilitating that he's willing to give up his fifth level feat and lose access to his first level feat for a week to get out of it.

Presumably if you're taking Tail Whip you plan on using the tail to whip things. Are you really gonna give that up for a week just to escape one grapple?


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I could only see taking this feat after exhausting all of the truly useful options for ancestry feats. Being grabbed is a fairly specific situation that probably won't come up all that often -- and on the rare occasions that it does happen, the grabber is likely to try again, especially if it is obvious that you cannot get out of the grab the same way you did the first time.


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I'd say it's pretty good since it allows you to escape the grab, then stride away from the grabber as a reaction. How many abilities allow you to move when it is not your turn?

This is a potentially life-saving feat.

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Arachnofiend wrote:
Presumably if you're taking Tail Whip you plan on using the tail to whip things. Are you really gonna give that up for a week just to escape one grapple?

Grapples by, say, a higher level enemy are really nasty. Losing an unarmed attack is bad, but all iruxi seemingly have another one. Suffering a minor penalty for a week is a lot better than being dead (or suffering the long term penalties that come with being raised from the dead).

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Zi Mishkal wrote:
Small quibble.. you mention geologic timescales here of millions and then billions of years. I'm with you on the millions *thumbs up*. But the billions? Macroscopic life on this planet has been around for a tad over a half billion years. Are we officially saying that geologically speaking Golarion is much older than the Earth? That is certainly possible and could have interesting ramifications moving forward *cough* Absalom station *cough*. Or is that just a moment of exaggeration that got out of hand?
I think the timescale on Golarion is supposed to be much longer than the timescale on earth. They have had human civilization for much longer than we have, so why not? The cutoff for "everything before this period is kind of uncertain; we don't have good records or surviving ruins" on Golarion is ten thousand years ago, after all.

9600 BCE is when Atlantis sank according to Plato. 11,600 years ago. Which was roughly the same time as the Younger Dryer comet impact which caused continent-spanning forest fires and immense amounts of glacial melt, increasing sea-levels by hundreds of feet in a relatively short time.

Gobekli Tepe in Turkey is about 11000 years old.

The time frames between Golarion and Earth aren't that different. They just have the advantage of longer lives races and so more history of their work pre-cataclysm.

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@Nathan Nasif sure, but there's also the unknown period of time for the serpentfolk empires, which presumably spanned centuries or millenia prior to the Azlanti Empire. It seems pretty clear that Golarion's timescale is longer than Earth's, unless intervention by immortals of various flavors just radically shortened the hunter-gatherer period to jump-start civilization.


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Sporelock wrote:
I'm pretty excited about these dudes being playable soon. Also, I'm impressed that you guys are going out of your way to give the "savage" ancestries a lot more depth. Kudos.

Yeah, it's really cool to see that even the "obscure" races have their cultural history detailed out. It lends a lot more verisimilitude to the setting.

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(Though if we follow the crocodile and shark metaphors too far, that might imply the existence of titanic lizardfolk that existed in prehistoric times. Eek!)

Do you want Godzillas? Because this is how you get Godzillas!


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Paul Watson wrote:
“blog” wrote:


(Though if we follow the crocodile and shark metaphors too far, that might imply the existence of titanic lizardfolk that existed in prehistoric times. Eek!)
Do you want Godzillas? Because this is how you get Godzillas!

Yes, I think intelligent Godzillas would be handy sometimes (see: Worldwound and s**+)

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(Though if we follow the crocodile and shark metaphors too far, that might imply the existence of titanic lizardfolk that existed in prehistoric times. Eek!)
Do you want Godzillas? Because this is how you get Godzillas!

Ohhhh~ no!

There goes Kintargo!

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Eleanor Ferron wrote:
Paul Watson wrote:
“blog” wrote:


(Though if we follow the crocodile and shark metaphors too far, that might imply the existence of titanic lizardfolk that existed in prehistoric times. Eek!)
Do you want Godzillas? Because this is how you get Godzillas!

Ohhhh~ no!

There goes Kintargo!

Shin Mogaru wrecks Cheliax AP when?


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Eleanor Ferron wrote:
Paul Watson wrote:
“blog” wrote:


(Though if we follow the crocodile and shark metaphors too far, that might imply the existence of titanic lizardfolk that existed in prehistoric times. Eek!)
Do you want Godzillas? Because this is how you get Godzillas!

Ohhhh~ no!

There goes Kintargo!

History shows again and again

How nature points out the folly of man

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Unfortunate they're uncommon and likely won't be PFS legal despite a faction leader being a lizardfolk. Regardless, very cool stuff!

Also, kitsune plz


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Cyrad wrote:
Unfortunate they're uncommon and likely won't be PFS legal despite a faction leader being a lizardfolk. Regardless, very cool stuff!

Presumably the uncommon ancestries in PFS2 will be handled like non-core races in PFS1- some will require boons, and some will be legal for a season in which they are especially appropriate (and thereafter if you have a chronicle sheet for one, or the appropriate boon.)

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Cyrad wrote:

Unfortunate they're uncommon and likely won't be PFS legal despite a faction leader being a lizardfolk. Regardless, very cool stuff!

Also, kitsune plz

Boons.

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Eleanor Ferron wrote:
Paul Watson wrote:
“blog” wrote:


(Though if we follow the crocodile and shark metaphors too far, that might imply the existence of titanic lizardfolk that existed in prehistoric times. Eek!)
Do you want Godzillas? Because this is how you get Godzillas!

Ohhhh~ no!

There goes Kintargo!

I've heard that the goblins have their own version of this legend.

They call him Gobzilla...


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“blog” wrote:


(Though if we follow the crocodile and shark metaphors too far, that might imply the existence of titanic lizardfolk that existed in prehistoric times. Eek!)
Do you want Godzillas? Because this is how you get Godzillas!

Yes i do, gimme.


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Pun alone was worth the read.


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Rysky wrote:
Cyrad wrote:

Unfortunate they're uncommon and likely won't be PFS legal despite a faction leader being a lizardfolk. Regardless, very cool stuff!

Also, kitsune plz

Boons.

Did PFS change the boon system to be something regular people can interact with or do you still have to win an auction at Gencon to play a weird ancestry


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Now I want a race of hairy lizards

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Arachnofiend wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Cyrad wrote:

Unfortunate they're uncommon and likely won't be PFS legal despite a faction leader being a lizardfolk. Regardless, very cool stuff!

Also, kitsune plz

Boons.
Did PFS change the boon system to be something regular people can interact with or do you still have to win an auction at Gencon to play a weird ancestry

... they've had earnable boons for awhile now.

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Byron Zibeck wrote:
Now I want a race of hairy lizards

Playable Deathclaws would be nice...


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Sarusan confirmed as millennia old hyper-advanced Iruxi civilization.

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Joe Jungers wrote:
Eleanor Ferron wrote:
Paul Watson wrote:
“blog” wrote:


(Though if we follow the crocodile and shark metaphors too far, that might imply the existence of titanic lizardfolk that existed in prehistoric times. Eek!)
Do you want Godzillas? Because this is how you get Godzillas!

Ohhhh~ no!

There goes Kintargo!

I've heard that the goblins have their own version of this legend.

They call him Gobzilla...

A couple verses from their oral history of this legend

Gnashy teef & slashy claws.
Him's got great beeg lizard jaws.
Go Go Gobzilla

Longshank towns he loves to burn.
Uh-oh - now its Sandpoint's turn.
Go Go Gobzilla.

Giant feets he stomps around.
Hope he not stomp on your town.
No No Gobzilla.

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No but seriously, isn't that the description of saurians? They are huge dinosaur humanois :P

(should have linked to the page first time around, I kinda forgot that lots of people haven't actually read bestiary 6 since everytime bestiary 6 monster pops up somewhere people think its completely new :'D)


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I'm curious to see if there are feathered lizardfolk, resembling the feathered dinosaurs (eg Ixalan cards).

That would be a super cool heritage!


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CorvusMask wrote:

No but seriously, isn't that the description of saurians? They are huge dinosaur humanois :P

(should have linked to the page first time around, I kinda forgot that lots of people haven't actually read bestiary 6 since everytime bestiary 6 monster pops up somewhere people think its completely new :'D)

That's..a T-Rex with human arms.

Oh my god.

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Frogliacci wrote:
CorvusMask wrote:

No but seriously, isn't that the description of saurians? They are huge dinosaur humanois :P

(should have linked to the page first time around, I kinda forgot that lots of people haven't actually read bestiary 6 since everytime bestiary 6 monster pops up somewhere people think its completely new :'D)

That's..a T-Rex with human arms.

Oh my god.

:D

Anyway, I have to say its confusing how blog uses astronomy & astrology interchangeably xD I remember previous blogs specifying that lizardfolk love both astronomy & astrology, but that paragraph makes it seem like they are referring to same thing


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I mean, if astrology really worked and looking at the stars can actually tell you things largely unrelated to "what the stars are like" then is there a big difference between astronomy and astrology?

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PossibleCabbage wrote:
I mean, if astrology really worked and looking at the stars can actually tell you things largely unrelated to "what the stars are like" then is there a big difference between astronomy and astrology?

Perhaps, but one of my players put it well: It would be kinda like saying "'They also burn witches at stakes.' and later 'This hatred towards medicine...' "

But yeah, we got chuckle out of that :D

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Joe Jungers wrote:
Joe Jungers wrote:
Eleanor Ferron wrote:
Paul Watson wrote:
“blog” wrote:


(Though if we follow the crocodile and shark metaphors too far, that might imply the existence of titanic lizardfolk that existed in prehistoric times. Eek!)
Do you want Godzillas? Because this is how you get Godzillas!

Ohhhh~ no!

There goes Kintargo!

I've heard that the goblins have their own version of this legend.

They call him Gobzilla...

A couple verses from their oral history of this legend

Gnashy teef & slashy claws.
Him's got great beeg lizard jaws.
Go Go Gobzilla

Longshank towns he loves to burn.
Uh-oh - now its Sandpoint's turn.
Go Go Gobzilla.

Giant feets he stomps around.
Hope he not stomp on your town.
No No Gobzilla.

No, no, no, any Gobzilla song has to start with the line “Up from the depths...”


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Frogliacci wrote:

I'm curious to see if there are feathered lizardfolk, resembling the feathered dinosaurs (eg Ixalan cards).

That would be a super cool heritage!

Agreed! The Thunderscape Campaign Setting's Rapacian (reptile/lizardfolk) race (to use the old 1e term) had an Alternate Racial Trait "Feathered".

Thunderscape Campaign Setting wrote:
Feathered A rare few rapacians bear brilliant plumage, marking them as the diplomats and speakers of their tribes. Rapacians with this trait gain +2 Charisma instead of +2 Dexterity, and gain a +2 racial bonus to Diplomacy skill checks. This trait replaces natural weapons.

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Years ago, I read Andre Norton's Quag Keep, which was set in a version of the World of Greyhawk and some of the characters included a wereboar beserker and a lizard man. Perhaps if anyone remembers that novel, we can see a party based on the characters in this novel.


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Frogliacci wrote:

I'm curious to see if there are feathered lizardfolk, resembling the feathered dinosaurs (eg Ixalan cards).

That would be a super cool heritage!

I really really hope they thought about this, I want to see more aquatic heritages where the lizardfolk become more fish-like, and feathered ones with limited flight. It would really help the variety of the standard lizardfolk concept, and a chameleon like stealth heritage.


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How is iruxi pronunced? Is that the singular or the plural or both? If one, what is the other?

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How is iruxi pronunced? Is that the singular or the plural or both? If one, what is the other?

Most people at the office seem to have gravitated toward " ir-rook-si," but depending on what sound you think the X represents, it could also be:

"Ir- rooshee"

"Ir - ruh- hee"

"Iru- zee"

"Iruch- ee"

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Eleanor Ferron wrote:
Applied_People wrote:
How is iruxi pronunced? Is that the singular or the plural or both? If one, what is the other?

Most people at the office seem to have gravitated toward " ir-rook-si," but depending on what sound you think the X represents, it could also be:

"Ir- rooshee"

"Ir - ruh- hee"

"Iru- zee"

"Iruch- ee"

Considering the distances between some communities, all versions could be in use. Pronunciation can differ between different dialects of a language, as can slang.

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Eleanor Ferron wrote:
Applied_People wrote:
How is iruxi pronunced? Is that the singular or the plural or both? If one, what is the other?

Most people at the office seem to have gravitated toward " ir-rook-si," but depending on what sound you think the X represents, it could also be:

"Ir- rooshee"

"Ir - ruh- hee"

"Iru- zee"

"Iruch- ee"

Ooo...

I like the first two.

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Beyond the Pool of Stars by Howard Andrew Jones is an excellent Pathfinder Tales novel featuring lizardfolk characters. It was the first novel in the Tales line I listened to on Audible and is still my favorite. I was very much looking forward to the Audible version of the follow up novel, Through the Gate in the Sea, but the audiobook never released.

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