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Friday, August 30, 2019

When we first started brainstorming the three new ancestries we intended to put into the Lost Omens Character Guide, leshies weren’t even on the list. We knew we didn’t want to overlap with the ancestries that are going to show up in the recently announced Advanced Player’s Guide, but that still left us with far too many contenders for the mere three ancestry slots we had available. Options included simple and popular choices such as the grippli, ambitious but potentially rules-contentious ideas such as centaurs, and even the relatively obscure mortics that appeared in Tyrant’s Grasp. As we debated, Mark Seifter came in with a message from himself and the rest of the Design Team: “What about leshies?”

Well, what about leshies?

Much like their introduction into Pathfinder 1E, leshies gained incredible traction in a short amount of time, and they managed to cinch the last, coveted spot as an early ancestry for Pathfinder 2E. We know leshies aren’t for everyone, but we recognized their presence was an opportunity to emphasize some of the truly unique aspects of the Age of Lost Omens as a setting. While many ancestries have unique and challenging viewpoints by the standards of humanity, leshies are separated from both flesh and mortality as we understand it.

A tall, graceful humanoid composed of tree branches and leaves cradles a huge seed pod in its hands.

Illustration by Ksenia Kozhevnikova

Leshies are a combination of the physical and the supernatural. The true heart of a leshy is a nature spirit, but these spirits don’t have bodies and can't easily affect the material world on their own. It’s only when a master of primal magic creates a suitable vessel for a spirit, and a spirit accepts that vessel as a body, that a leshy is born. Once a leshy is created, they could theoretically live forever—though the dangers of Golarion mean this rarely occurs—and leshy souls don’t go to the Boneyard upon death like those of mortals. Instead, destroying a leshy simply frees their primal spirit back into nature; that spirit could even be summoned into another leshy body at some point in the future. Reincarnated leshies tend to put most of their memories of their past lives aside, but that doesn’t mean they forget everything, and a newborn leshy might choose to pursue a particularly treasured friend or important cause from a previous existence.

Like hobgoblins, leshies are an Uncommon ancestry. In the case of leshies, this is because many leshies don’t travel beyond their homes, instead staying to protect and tend to the natural places they sprung from and treasure. I often envision leshies to be something akin to the kodama from the film Princess Mononoke, or other strange creatures from Miyazaki movies—regular townsfolk aren’t going to stab such a mystical forest spirit on sight, but it would still be very strange to see one come into a shop and ask to buy some rope! Big changes have come to Golarion of late, however, and that means more and more leshies are starting to venture out from their forests and caverns, shyly investigating the cities and towns of other peoples as they set forth to hold back a spreading darkness.

A humanoid with tree-branch limbs, a mantle of leaves and flowers across its shoulders, and a decoratively carved gourd in place of its head.

Illustration by Ksenia Kozhevnikova

Leshies get 8 Hit Points from their ancestry, are Small, and have a speed of 25 feet. A leshy speaks Common and Sylvan, plus any additional languages they might pick up. Leshies lack vulnerable organs and veins, giving them an ability boost to Constitution, and have the tranquility and experience of an immortal nature spirit, getting another ability boost in Wisdom. They also get one free ability boost to put in any score. Leshies don’t cling to old memories and can be a little empty-headed—in the case of gourd leshies, literally! —so they get an ability flaw to Intelligence. In addition, leshies don’t eat like most PCs do, instead gaining sustenance from the sun or from rotting matter (though leshies have discovered a way to create bottled nutrients for themselves if they find themselves needing such a precaution).

Leshies can also do fun and unusual things with their crafted plant bodies, such as the ability granted by the following ancestry feat:

SEEDPODFEAT 1
LESHY

Your body produces a nearly endless supply of hard seedpods. You gain a seedpod ranged unarmed attack that deals 1d4 bludgeoning damage; these Strikes have the manipulate trait. On a critical hit, a seedpod bursts, issuing forth a tangle of vegetation that imposes a –10‐foot circumstance penalty on the target’s Speed for 1 round. Seedpods do not add critical specialization effects.

The leshy ancestry entry also suggests some common Core Rulebook backgrounds appropriate for leshies. Nomad or scout might be unsurprising rules and roleplaying recommendations, but be sure to also check out specific backgrounds from the Lost Omens World Guide for other appropriate options such as the Wildwood Local background!

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Sweet we get Leshies, I wonder if there will be leshy ancestral feats for different kinds of plants to base of the leshy


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Huzzah!

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Good stuff! This book is definitely a must-have!!


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The note on leshies getting sustenance from rotting matter immediately got me thinking of shroom leshies. A bit more interesting to my personal tastes than the more traditional types. Is this supported by the lore as a thing that can happen? If so it'd make for a pretty cool heritage.

RE: the ancestry feat I'm glad we finally got official Paizo support for playing a Deku Scrub. It's about damn time

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Kinda want to play a Leshy druid, not gonna lie


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I can hardly wait to make a Leshy Monk whose ranged alternative is a flurry of seedpods.


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PossibleCabbage wrote:
I can hardly wait to make a Leshy Monk whose ranged alternative is a flurry of seedpods.

What do you mean alternative I am going to make a deku scrub monk work and nobody can stop me

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The seedpod attack is really cool. This is the kind of ancestry feats I'd like to see more of.


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I really can'T wait to play one/many!!

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Leshies!

Leshies gonna whoop some undead ass!

Also, MORTICS WERE ON THE TABLE!?!?!

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Arachnofiend wrote:
PossibleCabbage wrote:
I can hardly wait to make a Leshy Monk whose ranged alternative is a flurry of seedpods.
What do you mean alternative I am going to make a deku scrub monk work and nobody can stop me

The second one is giving me some Odolwa vibes.


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I love the art for leshi’s here. Very cool x3 but now last but not least, my boys are next ^^

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> Ranged Unarmed Attack

I fear the kind of shenanigans this will unlock. Like Knockback Strike.

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Rysky wrote:
Also, MORTICS WERE ON THE TABLE!?!?!

Yes, but given we hadn't had a chance to see how they were received, it was eventually decided to hold off on them until we had a better idea of fan reaction. Which is to say, if you liked the mortics, let Erik Mona know.

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Eleanor Ferron wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Also, MORTICS WERE ON THE TABLE!?!?!
Yes, but given we hadn't had a chance to see how they were received, it was eventually decided to hold off on them until we had a better idea of fan reaction. Which is to say, if you liked the mortics, let Erik Mona know.

I DOES LIKE THEM!

I had a blast playing a Gheden in 3.5 :3


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What is the range on the seedpods?


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At the rate those leshies are shedding leaves, if they aren't synthesizing new ones at an incredible rate, they will be effectively stripped naked within minutes.


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Leshy leaf druid, with a leshy familiar.

It's leshies all the way down!


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Frogliacci wrote:

Leshy leaf druid, with a leshy familiar.

It's leshies all the way down!

In that build thread I posited a leshy leaf order druid who takes order explorer to get wild shape and the wild shape duration extension feats, plant form, and verdant metamorphosis. You are a plant who has a choice of being three different kinds of plant: me, me but a tree, and BATTLE PLANT.


Arachnofiend wrote:
PossibleCabbage wrote:
I can hardly wait to make a Leshy Monk whose ranged alternative is a flurry of seedpods.
What do you mean alternative I am going to make a deku scrub monk work and nobody can stop me

Despite the Intelligence flaw, I was thinking Leshy Alchemist who spits bombs.


Very curious about how well I can steal from them for non-meat Ancestries like wyrwoods and androids.

Also; I’d love to see grippli and centaurs! My two main hope for 2e are still gnolls and androids, though.


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Eleanor Ferron wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Also, MORTICS WERE ON THE TABLE!?!?!
Yes, but given we hadn't had a chance to see how they were received, it was eventually decided to hold off on them until we had a better idea of fan reaction. Which is to say, if you liked the mortics, let Erik Mona know.

I have no idea what a mortic is.


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Ventnor wrote:
I have no idea what a mortic is.

Humanoid creature infused with necromantic energy who is not undead. You can become one by being exposed to too much negative energy (and not dying, most things will just die in this situation, but some will become mortics.)

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Eleanor Ferron wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Also, MORTICS WERE ON THE TABLE!?!?!
Yes, but given we hadn't had a chance to see how they were received, it was eventually decided to hold off on them until we had a better idea of fan reaction. Which is to say, if you liked the mortics, let Erik Mona know.

Hey, I put them on my Bestiary wishlist on bestiary wishlist thread :D

(yeah, I know I did that this week :P But come on, you should have used your super powers to see in to the future and take one person's unimportant opinion in account xD)


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Colette Brunel wrote:
What is the range on the seedpods?

Yeah, I'd like to know this too. I really hope we didn't spot an error before this book is even released (unless of course there's time to make corrections, in which case all the better we spotted it)


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They are adorable ^___^


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Leshies are awesome. Good choice.


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It seems that Paizo handled the sketchy yet inevitable INT penalty Ancesrty well. I can't wait to see them in (any) SRD format...


Colette Brunel wrote:
What is the range on the seedpods?

Very interested in this, indeed

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Not my cup of tea.


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I like the idea of a plant race and I do hope they have other fun feats like the seedpod

But not going to lie would of much rather had Centaurs


I'm so stoked for this! PLEASE tell me the flytrap leshy is playable.


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So does uncommon mean it won't be playable normally in pfs?


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Glad to have playable koroks. As someone with preference for striking and colorful visuals (even if only in my head) I love leshies, kobolds, seafolk, lizardfolk, etc. and always make sure there’s places they fit in my settings (unless I’m deliberately going for an old school feel).


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So is anyone willing to spill the beans on what sorts of heritages leshies have in the Character Guide?

I mean, I presume we will eventually get all the various Leshy types as heritages (Cactus, Gourd, Flytrap, Fungus, Leaf, Lotus, Lichen, Poppy, Snapdragon, Sunflower, Seaweed with new ones possible). But we're not likely to get them all in one book.


Where in Golarion do they live? Are they from Nex or just all over (or am I thinking of those other plant people)?


Bergevin wrote:
Where in Golarion do they live? Are they from Nex or just all over (or am I thinking of those other plant people)?

You're thinking of those other plant people (the ghorans) - these ones can arise wherever someone binds a nature spirit to a plant body, from the Verduran Forest to Nirmathas to Kyonin to the Mwangi Expanse... and more.


Bergevin wrote:
Where in Golarion do they live? Are they from Nex or just all over (or am I thinking of those other plant people)?

Leshies aren't uncommon because "they are generally found in only a few places" they are in fact, found anywhere there are a bunch of plants. There just aren't very many anywhere, and they tend not to get out much.

So I think this is uncommon as a "ask your GM before playing an ambulatory plant" thing rather than a "because I'm from near Oprak, I can play a hobgoblin" thing.


Gaulin wrote:
So does uncommon mean it won't be playable normally in pfs?

I am pretty sure it means you will need to get a boon to unlock them for you but since it will be in one of the first books probably reasonably available before too long.


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PossibleCabbage wrote:
Bergevin wrote:
Where in Golarion do they live? Are they from Nex or just all over (or am I thinking of those other plant people)?

Leshies aren't uncommon because "they are generally found in only a few places" they are in fact, found anywhere there are a bunch of plants. There just aren't very many anywhere, and they tend not to get out much.

So I think this is uncommon as a "ask your GM before playing an ambulatory plant" thing rather than a "because I'm from near Oprak, I can play a hobgoblin" thing.

Also leshy are nature spirits inhabiting typically a body made/grown for them most often by druids. So where you find a lot of druids you will find more leshy. If there are not many druids around they won't be very common.


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PossibleCabbage wrote:

So is anyone willing to spill the beans on what sorts of heritages leshies have in the Character Guide?

I mean, I presume we will eventually get all the various Leshy types as heritages (Cactus, Gourd, Flytrap, Fungus, Leaf, Lotus, Lichen, Poppy, Snapdragon, Sunflower, Seaweed with new ones possible). But we're not likely to get them all in one book.

In the know direction discord Luis let slip that there would be a leaf leshie that doesn't take fall damage a few weeks back. I'm pretty sure Gourd was talked about on a stream, too. Maybe the Arcane Mark leshie episode a while back?


Leshies! Yay! :D


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Winkie_Phace wrote:
PossibleCabbage wrote:

So is anyone willing to spill the beans on what sorts of heritages leshies have in the Character Guide?

I mean, I presume we will eventually get all the various Leshy types as heritages (Cactus, Gourd, Flytrap, Fungus, Leaf, Lotus, Lichen, Poppy, Snapdragon, Sunflower, Seaweed with new ones possible). But we're not likely to get them all in one book.

In the know direction discord Luis let slip that there would be a leaf leshie that doesn't take fall damage a few weeks back. I'm pretty sure Gourd was talked about on a stream, too. Maybe the Arcane Mark leshie episode a while back?

I think Mark mentioned something about a Gourd leshy being able to store an item in its head and quickdraw from there.


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Gaulin wrote:
So does uncommon mean it won't be playable normally in pfs?
I am pretty sure it means you will need to get a boon to unlock them for you but since it will be in one of the first books probably reasonably available before too long.

I hope not. One of the things I was hoping for going into pf2 is not having to worry about boons and such. I live in a smaller town and there's no way I'll ever actually play pfs but I like to limit myself and people I play with to pfs limitations, as I find it more balanced.

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The Ancestry stats are very useable. Let's have... a Venus Flytrap Leshy Barbarian with Frog Animal Instinct (for tongue and bite) and Herbalist Background, maybe a skill increase into Performance, for singing...

We have Audrey II from Little Shop Of Horrors.

The best bit is that this isn't wholly a joke build, it's a playable build.


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Bergevin wrote:
Where in Golarion do they live? Are they from Nex or just all over (or am I thinking of those other plant people)?

I suspect that the Verduran Forest is going to have a particularly high Leshy population, given the organized druidic presence there. But I guess there could be Leshies anywhere there are users of primal magic to grow them. We'll see.

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Gaulin wrote:
I hope not. One of the things I was hoping for going into pf2 is not having to worry about boons and such. I live in a smaller town and there's no way I'll ever actually play pfs but I like to limit myself and people I play with to pfs limitations, as I find it more balanced.

If you don't actually play PFS why would boons matter? If you set your games to only allow what PFS allows, then they wouldn't be able to play them, would they?

And boons seem to work differently now. You don't have to find a way to go to a convention just to get a special race. Playing and GMing PFS seems to be enough.


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I AM GROOT!


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I can definetely see the logic in including leshy's in the first book. Like Paizo's take on goblins, leshy's are a VERY pathfinder race, if not quite as iconic yet.

That just means that there will need to be a leshy iconic ASAP. The first wholly new PF2 class is going to have an iconic with a candle in its head.


Mystic Lemur wrote:

If you don't actually play PFS why would boons matter? If you set your games to only allow what PFS allows, then they wouldn't be able to play them, would they?

And boons seem to work differently now. You don't have to find a way to go to a convention just to get a special race. Playing and GMing PFS seems to be enough.

Well yeah, that's the whole point of what I'm saying. If I went by pfs rules, only allowing what they normally allow (for the sake of balance mostly) then no one would be able to play leshies. I was hoping they'd be a race that anyone could play without boons or the like, as that, to me, makes it seems like devs feel they aren't any stronger hang core races. And I might dabble in some society scenarios but I prefer ap's and Homebrew.

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