Pathfinder Lost Omens World Guide

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This indispensable 136-page guidebook to the world of Pathfinder presents everything you need to know for a lifetime of adventure in the uncertain Age of Lost Omens. The god of humanity is dead and prophecy is broken, leaving adventuring heroes like you to carve their own destinies out of an uncertain future!

This gazetteer features 10 diverse regions packed with thrilling and deadly possibilities and is accompanied by a giant two-sided poster map depicting the heart of the Pathfinder setting.

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Just buy the inner sea world guide

2/5

I picked this up because some people were telling me there would be a full map of Garund available, and with the Lizardfolk/Iruxi in the nearby release of Lost Omens Character Guide I really hoped there would finally be some information on Droon. I got neither of those things. the rest of the book is pretty meh as well. The Inner Sea World Guide is cheaper and provides much more information.


Love it

5/5

Great stuff.


Snappy, if brief, setting outline

5/5

Lost Omen World Guide is something of an extended primer to the campaign setting. It describes the Pathfinder world, paints some broad strokes and hopefully gets you excited about it. It does that job very well, between excellent art and brief but concise writing, it sets the tone of the place and hooks you up. There's nowhere as much detail in this book as in 300+ pg campaign setting tomes, but this book's job isn't to be a comprehensive reference. It's more of a pitch, and a very good one at that.

For existing players, LOWG presents a quick update of the setting, incorporating 10 years of storytelling to push the Golarion world a bit forward, figuratively and literally. There's a new nation here, a smoldering ruin in place of a vibrant city there and there's a new person in charge over there. But these changes are minor to moderate, as the writers have purposefully avoided the "realm-shattering event changes everything" paradigm of some other fantasy RPG settings.

There's some rules content, but sparse. One very welcome element of it are numerous backgrounds. The PF2e core rulebook is rather sparse with those, so any expansion is more than welcome.

Did I mention that the art is gorgeous? Because it is. The book is easily worth its price as an art book alone.

Overall, a great purchase IF you don't expect it to be a super-detailed campaign setting almanach. Manage your expectations and you'll be as happy with this purchase as I am.


Not a Good Value Unless You're New to Pathfinder

1/5

Against my better judgment, I've been excitedly looking forward to the Lost Omens World Guide.

I should have known better.

Before delving into the issues here, let's focus on a few of the positives:

- The art is gorgeous and very high-quality (for the most part)
- The layout and appearance of the book is excellent, with helpful tabs and indexing
- The section on Absalom is especially well-written - flavorful, evocative, and inspiring
- For those who have been following the changes that have taken place to Golarion since the Inner Sea World Guide was released, it's nice to have everything condensed in one place

Ready? On to the myriad issues:

- There is a startlingly low amount of new information in this book for existing players of PF who are porting over to 2E. As a comparison, the section on Varisia in the ISWG from 1E was 4 pages. In LOWG? Try 1.5. If you've been following Pathfinder, you may not read a single thing in this book that you didn't already know.

- The Paizo team decided to break the world down into "zones", where ostensibly things are similar and you can explore certain adventure themes. So Varisia is now part of a zone called "The Saga Lands" for some reason. The book focuses on each of these zones while paying short thrift to countries or city-states within them. The one exception is Absalom. Other "zones" include: Broken Land, Eye of Dread, Golden Road, High Seas, Impossible Lands, Mwangi Expanse, Old Cheliax, and Shining Kingdoms.

- The book bills itself as a "World Guide" and is 135 pages long. Compare this to Pathfinder first edition's "Inner Sea World Guide", which focused on the Inner Sea, a portion of Golarion's "world" at 318 pages and you'll begin to see the lack of detail in this book. Bear in mind, D&D 5E's Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide is 159 pages. That's 24 more pages for a small area of the Forgotten Realms. Yikes. So, one wonders why Paizo chose such a small page count. Would Paizo fans have not purchased a 300 - 400 page World Guide? Of course they would have. They just purchased a 620 pound doorstop of a Core Rulebook. A cynic might say that Paizo was looking out for their bottom line and wanted to hold a lot in reserve to sell again to their fanbase.

- Why is Tanya Depass involved with this book? You would be forgiven for not knowing who that is. As far as I can tell, her only qualification is that she's a self-proclaimed "diversity consultant" to the gaming industry. What exactly does that mean, you ask? Tanya is a Queer Woman of Color (TM), checking three virtue-signalling diversity boxes for Paizo, and she wants to see more people like herself in gaming. You might be asking whether this is self-serving or perhaps racist and sexist, as Tanya herself would likely conclude if a straight white male was fighting to see more like himself in gaming. Well, no, of course it isn't! Why? Shhh...don't think too hard... (-1 star)

- No map for Absalom? Very unfortunate considering the neighborhood by neighborhood breakdown for the city. It would be nice for readers to know where in the City a 'hood is located. Visuals people, visuals.

- Apparently, all countries are exemplars of racial and gender equity. Yes, even city-states that just banned slavery. Yes, even devil-bound nations: "We may be evil, but we aren't /monsters/!" (-1 star)

- All of this detracts from the verisimilitude of the world, making Golarion feel less like a real, living, breathing place and more like a fantasy simulacrum of utopia for the current American ultra-left, where everyone who is not pure evil gets along, with no animus or bias towards anyone as a result of their race or sexuality. Unfortunately, real people have biases, and differences of opinion, and interpretations of goodness, and yes, some are even racist or sexist. But not in Golarion! Oh no. If you cross that line in Golarion, you're a moustache-twirling villain who also happens to eat babies and gut puppies and cast away rainbows from the sky and steal iced-cream from children.

- It's one thing to hold extreme political views, on either side. It's quite another to infest a fantasy role-playing game with said leanings. For me, fantasy should be just that, a chance to exit the everyday, and explore a world different from our own, not one that seems like its run by Jezebel, the #METOO movement, or MSNBC.

- Now, all of this would be well and good if there were some in-world rationale for all of this perfect gender and racial parity and equity (though curiously, Paizo is still fine with wealth and class disparity). But there's not. As a matter of fact, in Pathfinder's early days, the world contained much more racial animus and tension, more traditional gender differences, and all manner of bias. Yet, all of that has mysteriously vanished over the last few years as the real world political winds have shifted. This leaves Golarion feeling less like a fully realized fantasy world and more like a shadowy reflection of real world American left-wing politics, fickle and changing as real world politics change. Suddenly, in the last few years, Golarion's races, some of whom have millenia of racial hatred between them, are all either besties or on the verge of reconciliation, and from all indications, Golarion is well on its way to having every major city and nation ruled by a woman. Not because anything shifted in-world - there weren't Golarion-wide "Me Too" or "Goblin Lives Matter" movements for example -, but because the foul winds of real world political-correctness have blown. Pathfinder developers live in fear that if they portray races of Golarion evincing racial hatred or animus that someone in the real world will take that as a cue that Paizo thinks its ok for real-world racial hatred to exist. That's the warped mindset here.

- This strange mindset is also reflected in the fact that Paizo plans on having slavery completely expunged from the Inner Sea. Why? This is due to the creative director's fear that not doing so would potentially cause someone in the real world to believe that Paizo approves of slavery. So, as a public service, Paizo really, REALLY wants you to know that slavery is bad and they don't approve of it, OK???


5/5


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I'm hoping this is a good into for someone who has never played or read Golarion books. Tho that might not be popular on these boards, with some invested fans! :)

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It looks like this book has been moved from august 1st to august 28th!
Why is this the case?

Especially for people starting a new adventure/campaign in Golarion, this seems like an unfortunate thing.


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^Wonder if this has something to do with trying to pack the next 6 part AP into 5 months.


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I have no idea whether it has been moved or not, however for what it's worth, I wouldn't put a lot of store in the "PDF will be available" marker on the paizo webstore (it often does weird things and doesn't constitute a formal release announcement, in my view - just the computer's best guess).

I'd wait for the July/August Subscription Thread for certainty.


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They have already updated the Release Schedule page to make the Lost Omens World Guide a late August release.

Among other things, that means that the option to pick this book up at Gen Con needs to go away.

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Erik Mona wrote:

Folks, this product comes out August 1st just like everything else. Any reference to a July release is a mistake.

Does this quote from Erik Mona earlier in the thread still apply?


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Grumpus wrote:
Erik Mona wrote:

Folks, this product comes out August 1st just like everything else. Any reference to a July release is a mistake.

Does this quote from Erik Mona earlier in the thread still apply?

I don't think so. It applied to the original posting of this product back in March, when this page said that this product would be out in July. In the past couple of days, however, they made two independent changes (to this page and to the Release Schedule page) that would seem to supersede the August 1st release date.

Also note that this delay comes soon after the Druma book got pushed from June to August 1st, which makes a delay of the book that follows it all the more likely.

Of course, the part about this product not being released in July does remain accurate.


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Perram from Know Direction got confirmation:

Quote:

“I can confirmed that The Lost Omens World Guide will not be available until late August (around the 28th). It will not be available for Gen Con pickup. We are still in the process of updating our website details to reflect this change. Questions can be directed to our Customer Service Department which is open Mon–Fri, 10:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Pacific. They can be contacted at (425) 250-0800 and customer.service@paizo.com.”

- Aaron Shanks

That's really too bad.


Official (Mark Moreland) post about cause of delay.


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Steve Geddes wrote:
I'm sure this will be the very first 2E book I read.

No longer quite so sure. :(

Dark Archive

It is unfortunate that this isn't going to be available for launch, but 27 days later isn't too bad.

I think as long as there is enough information in both the "Fall of Plaguestone" module and "Hellknight Hill" adventure path volume to play them on their own, we'll be fine. :-)

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Marco Massoudi wrote:

It is unfortunate that this isn't going to be available for launch, but 27 days later isn't too bad.

I think as long as there is enough information in both the "Fall of Plaguestone" module and "Hellknight Hill" adventure path volume to play them on their own, we'll be fine. :-)

That's the case for all of our adventures, or at least we try to make it the case. If you want to know more about the context of the world the adventures are set in, then there's other books to buy—the World Guide is intended to be the baseline for folks, and the fact that it won't be out is VERY disappointing, but at least newcomers to the game will have some context for Golarion in the form of a short chapter in the core rulebook.


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It's disappointing, but 4 weeks will fly by in the blink of an eye, and then nobody will remember it ever happened.


4 weeks is still an early release compared to the likes of the inner sea world guide and the pact worlds book.

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Is there any reason this is $36.99 when the 2 Lost Omens books after this are only $34.99?

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Grumpus wrote:
Is there any reason this is $36.99 when the 2 Lost Omens books after this are only $34.99?

It includes a large foldout poster map.

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Jeff Alvarez wrote:
Grumpus wrote:
Is there any reason this is $36.99 when the 2 Lost Omens books after this are only $34.99?
It includes a large foldout poster map.

Good reason!


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Regarding the connection between Aroden and prophecy, I think it's just that since he died (if that is indeed what happened to him) prophecy hasn't worked. Also, from the pathfinder wiki:

pathfinder wiki wrote:
Aroden himself had prophesied thousands of years before that he would return on the cusp of mankind's greatest triumph and usher in the Age of Glory. His priests and followers calculated the supposed exact time of this event and prepared for it with lavish pomp. On the prophesied date, instead of his return, all contact to the god was lost and the world was devastated by terrible storms, the opening of vast planar rifts, and decades-spanning political upheavals. Since then, no major prophecy has come true, a condition for which historians have named the current era.

Also:

Inner Sea Gods wrote:
Aroden Th best known of the dead gods, Aroden was the god of innovation and history, a strong influence in the development of human culture, and the diety who raised the Isle of Kortos and the Starstone. The Starfall Doctrine prophecy predicted his manifestation on the material plane once again, but instead his worshippers were severed from his power and a series of catastrophic storms marked his mysterious and abrupt death.

Dark Archive

is 26 dollars really the price for all setting pdfs compared to rulebooks being 15 dollars? ._.; I mean, I'm kind of confused about how the physical's book's price is less, but pdf is way more expensive for smaller book


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CorvusMask wrote:
is 26 dollars really the price for all setting pdfs compared to rulebooks being 15 dollars? ._.; I mean, I'm kind of confused about how the physical's book's price is less, but pdf is way more expensive for smaller book

They’ve always tended to heavily subsidise their Rulebook PDFs. (In other words, this cost/page is more commensurate with what they’d charge on purely economic terms). They take a hit on selling electronic copies of the rules, since presumably doing so drives sales of other products (amongst other reasons).

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CorvusMask wrote:
is 26 dollars really the price for all setting pdfs compared to rulebooks being 15 dollars? ._.; I mean, I'm kind of confused about how the physical's book's price is less, but pdf is way more expensive for smaller book

It's only confusing when you're new to free market capitalism and don't know that price does not reflect only production costs, but also your desires to shape the market and to earn the target value knowing more or less what the demand will be.

Shocking fact: Paizo sells Beginner Boxes at a loss because they're the entry product.


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Hm, shouldn't by that logic this be the entry product for Golarion in 2E and they should sell it at a loss (like their $10.00 PDF's for hardcovers?). This should be the book which hooks new players to use Golarion as their main campaign setting, after all.

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magnuskn wrote:
Hm, shouldn't by that logic this be the entry product for Golarion in 2E and they should sell it at a loss (like their $10.00 PDF's for hardcovers?). This should be the book which hooks new players to use Golarion as their main campaign setting, after all.

You can't say that without knowing what's the sales of CRB compared to the setting book. And I can hazard a guess that CRB is multiple times a bigger seller, because everybody wants one, while the setting book is really of interest only for GMs (a subset of the market) who want to run Golarion (a subset of a subset).

The number of reviews of ISWG (34) compared to the number of reviews of CRB (130) is likely a good indication of how one compares to the other in terms of number sold.


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Gorbacz wrote:
magnuskn wrote:
Hm, shouldn't by that logic this be the entry product for Golarion in 2E and they should sell it at a loss (like their $10.00 PDF's for hardcovers?). This should be the book which hooks new players to use Golarion as their main campaign setting, after all.

You can't say that without knowing what's the sales of CRB compared to the setting book. And I can hazard a guess that CRB is multiple times a bigger seller, because everybody wants one, while the setting book is really of interest only for GMs (a subset of the market) who want to run Golarion (a subset of a subset).

The number of reviews of ISWG (34) compared to the number of reviews of CRB (130) is likely a good indication of how one compares to the other in terms of number sold.

Sure, that makes some sense. I'd say that probably quite a few players would like to have the setting book as well, but overall you're right.

Silver Crusade

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I'm gaming on regular basis with 20+ people across 4 groups and only two of us have the setting book.

Everybody else just uses Pathfinderwiki if they need any info about the setting.

What I would love was an updated Inner Sea Primer, tho. That was a neat booklet, hope it sold well enough to warrant an update.

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Gorbacz wrote:

I'm gaming on regular basis with 20+ people across 4 groups and only two of us have the setting book.

Everybody else just uses Pathfinderwiki if they need any info about the setting.

What I would love was an updated Inner Sea Primer, tho. That was a neat booklet, hope it sold well enough to warrant an update.

Isn't the companion line gone?

Silver Crusade

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Paladinosaur wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:

I'm gaming on regular basis with 20+ people across 4 groups and only two of us have the setting book.

Everybody else just uses Pathfinderwiki if they need any info about the setting.

What I would love was an updated Inner Sea Primer, tho. That was a neat booklet, hope it sold well enough to warrant an update.

Isn't the companion line gone?

Paizo will still be producing books other than the Core Rulebooks and Adventure Paths in 2e.

Silver Crusade

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The companion and campaign setting lines have been folded together into the new Campaign Setting line. They could do an Inner Sea primer type book, but it would be heavily expanded to fit the new format (honestly I think the Lost Omens World Guide will fit that niche pretty well)


As someone who starts out with Pathfinder 2, will this be the only setting book I'll need for now?

Or should I get the old "Inner Sea World Guide" as well?

Thank you for the answers!

The Exchange

It should be enough to have the LOWG.

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Cori Marie wrote:
The companion and campaign setting lines have been folded together into the new Campaign Setting line. They could do an Inner Sea primer type book, but it would be heavily expanded to fit the new format (honestly I think the Lost Omens World Guide will fit that niche pretty well)

Hey Cori Marie, you're not quite correct here.

What's actually going to happen is the Campaign Setting line will morph into the Lost Omens line and the Player Companion line will just cease. We discussed merging both lines into the one but two things stopped us. The first was the high percentage of overlapping subscribers to both lines. The second was that the Player Companion subscribers, who are used to paying $14.99 per book, might not be interested in the higher priced books and forcing them into that subscription wouldn't be fair.


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And yet... the kinds of things that were in the Player Companions will at least sometimes appear in the Lost Omens books, no?


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Ed Reppert wrote:
And yet... the kinds of things that were in the Player Companions will at least sometimes appear in the Lost Omens books, no?

That's the intention, from what I've seen. Certainly this book is stuffed full of player options - archetypes, backgrounds, new items, etc.

Silver Crusade

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Yeah I think that’s what CM was talking about, not the subscriptions themselves.

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That is indeed what I was talking about, sorry for the confusion. I meant the content is merging, rather than the subs themselves


Just to be sure, this is being released after the Core stuff?

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Yes.


Ok. I was a little worried. I got my Core Book and Bestiary yesterday and wanted to make sure, since this book was not in the box.

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*nods*

It is going out with next month's subscription window.


Thank you!


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I'm curious, what's in the book?

Is it just lore and potential plot hooks or is there something else in there too.


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captain yesterday wrote:

I'm curious, what's in the book?

Is it just lore and potential plot hooks or is there something else in there too.

This book? It's the Campaign Setting/Inner Sea World Guide for 2e.

It also contains 10 regional archetypes.


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Joana wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

I'm curious, what's in the book?

Is it just lore and potential plot hooks or is there something else in there too.

This book? It's the Campaign Setting/Inner Sea World Guide for 2e.

It also contains 10 regional archetypes.

Awesome, thank you!

I knew it was an update on the World Guide, it's great to know about the archetypes though!

Either way, it's in my sidecart waiting for the next round of subs.

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Order spawning begins on tuesday, shipping on thursday.
Can't wait to see that map of Golarion! :-)


Marco Massoudi wrote:

Order spawning begins on tuesday, shipping on thursday.

Can't wait to see that map of Golarion! :-)

Thank god this means I may finally get my darn core book and bestiary. I had not realized that due to the delay with the world guide it would cause them to not ship the other two until this one came out until it was too late to change anything.


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That sounds like a glitch, kaid. At least, I got my CRB and bestiary in the late July shipment. OTOH, I was subbed to both the rpg line and the campaign setting line before 2E.


I was not subbed I preordered all three books right when they first became available. It looks like due to that they held the other two books until this one becomes available. In the customer service thread a few other people responded to me that they had basically the same issue.

Scarab Sages

I still haven't received my order yet, I ordered the deluxe Core and this one, I guess I should have ordered them separately


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kaid wrote:
I was not subbed I preordered all three books right when they first became available. It looks like due to that they held the other two books until this one becomes available. In the customer service thread a few other people responded to me that they had basically the same issue.

I did the same. They moved my Lost Omens World Guide to a "sidecart" after I noticed the delay, which allowed my other material to be delivered prior to release.


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FWIW, it’s probably not too late for both of you to amend your preorder to a subscription if you get onto Customer Service (phone is best, then messageboard post and slowest is email).

There’s pretty much no downside and you’ll get a free PDF of the books. If you don’t want to continue, you can always cancel (via the same channels of communication).

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