Pathfinder Lost Omens: World Guide

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This indispensable 136-page guidebook to the world of Pathfinder presents everything you need to know for a lifetime of adventure in the uncertain Age of Lost Omens. The god of humanity is dead and prophecy is broken, leaving adventuring heroes like you to carve their own destinies out of an uncertain future!

This gazetteer features 10 diverse regions packed with thrilling and deadly possibilities and is accompanied by a giant two-sided poster map depicting the heart of the Pathfinder setting.

Written by: Tanya DePass, James Jacobs, Lyz Liddell, Ron Lundeen, Liane Merciel, Erik Mona, Mark Seifter, and James L. Sutter

ISBN: 978-1-64078-172-6

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Overpriced, under delivered

2/5

You don't need this book.

The mechanics take up too much space, and are not very good. Wait for them to be free (a fair price) online.

The campaign stuff that is the meat of the book is surprisingly sparse and is just an avoidable update to the cheaper and longer products that came before. Buy the APs that will give you the context you need, this big picture stuff at a too big price isn't necessary.

The art is...fine. Much is good, some is bad, some is recycled.


I had trouble deciding between 4 or 5 stars...

4/5

...But decided finally on 4 star. Not because of the 26 dollars for pdf vs 1e's setting book being 10 dollars, but because I'm not sure how useful this book is for newbie GMs in comparison to the original 1e setting book. More on that later since I will first go through stuff I liked.

So let's start with art: I think this is one of prettiest and most evocative Pathfinder books art wise. My only complaints is that Amiri's spine seems twisted in one pic and I recognize Lion Blade art being recycled character art from War for the Crown.

What this book is great for is for veteran Pathfinder GMs to learn new information about places not detailed(Isle of Kortos is most obvious example of this) as much before and learning 2e's default setting state for APs(and how some APs always affect world). Like learning how Worldwound's closing and Whispering Tyrant's return affected the world is really useful. Its also nice how Mwangi Expanse region is actually written from perspective of people native there.

I don't personally like all changes(nor do I really mind them), for example, I kinda hope Lord-Mayor Grobaras isn't actually dead :D He is such fun jerk to love to hate and humiliate. Maybe there was Lord-Mayor between him and current one? Also I'm bit confused by default state of Kevoth-Kul and "mysterious death of Technic League's captain". Like, it seems default canon party ignored Palace of Fallen Stars and sneaked to Technic League compound and assassinated Ozmyn? That is... Really hard thing to do and not really intuitive. Also, Zernebeth isn't mentioned at all :D Also find it weird that Gorilla King got killed during Serpent's Skull, but they didn't use continue the campaign article where he comes nascent demon lord.(its seems none of them are treated as canon outside of Lord of Runes pathfinder tales book referring to Shattered Star's one :P)

I also find it bit annoying that Hell's Vengeance article on war's effect on politics seems to be ignored in the book.

But yeah, my favourite articles to read were Golden Road, Impossible Lands and Mwangi Expanse :D Maybe its because I haven't read all 1e setting books, but something about these three articles especially resonated with me.

Now onto the thing I mentioned before: I'm not sure this book is as good for newbie GMs because this is more of macroscale politics book than small scale gazetteer book as original one 1e setting book was. Meaning that while you can spot names of settlements on map, newbie gm might still want to buy old 1e setting books to know more about cities and villages and towns and such. So while book is awesome, I don't think its as helpful to newbies as the "main" setting book. Still this is normal scale for lots of different setting books in different systems, so I guess lots of newbies might actually not feel like that.

But yeah, regardless, I love the book and feel hungry for more books and info :3


A Fantastic Book!

5/5

The Lost Omens World Guide is a great introduction to the Lost Omens setting and is filled with beautiful art. I can't stop reading it and I couldn't recommend it more to anyone who plans to run Golarion or is a fan of it.


A Solid Introduction and Update to Golarion Lore

5/5

This book is a concise and evocative sketch of the Inner Sea region of Golarion. It's especially helpful for those new to Golarion, but it also provides a nice update on changes to the world in light of prior APs for those familiar with the setting. This is mostly a flavor book, but it has various bits of crunch mixed in -- a couple new items, a bunch of setting-specific backgrounds, and ten archetypes. Overall, a solid book.

4.5/5 stars.


Great setting book, with beautiful art.

5/5

Overall I am very satisfied with the book, it contains some fun archetypes that I really hope some of my players will want to use.
Golarion have advanced 10 years, and all the APs from PF1 have now been incorporated into the setting. It was impossible to make this compatible with all tables out there, but I enjoy most of the endings which have been chosen.

Overall a great product, which I really recommend!


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Gwaihir Scout wrote:
It took Aroden a few centuries to stop directly interfering. Even after that, the last thing we need is an enormously more powerful Whispering Way.

Indeed. Furthermore and unless I am mistaken, the gods don't interfere because of a pact they collectively made, something to which a newly minted god would not be a party by default.

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The gods don't interfere because they know that doing so starts up a divine arms race, and because their direct intervention tends to remove the purpose of free will. There isn't really a "written down divine pact" that they have to follow. It's largely a self-imposed ban on direct interaction; page 70 of Planar Adventures covers the topic in more detail.

Another way to look at it... if the gods intervened to both cause and solve every problem in the setting... there'd be nothing for player characters to do.

A setting where the gods meddle with mortals all the time can make for a fun story—Clash of the Titans (and going back to its inspiration, Greek Mythology and the like) comes to mind. But it's not that fun to play a game where the GM gets to decide everything that happens by just having the gods show up to make those things happen.

And so we try to limit the "Gods meddling with the story" to things in the distant past when we can, which places their direct influence out of the way of invalidating player agency in the game itself.

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So Tar Baphon becoming a god is feared even by Paizo ;-P

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So we know that the four northwestern realms of the Land of the Linnorm Kings, Irissen, the Realm of the Mammoth Lords & Varisia (with an added "New Thassilon" now encompassing most of the Ironbound Archipelago in the Steaming Sea) are now called the "SAGA LANDS" and are one of ten regions in the book.

What could the other regions be?

-The "RUINED LANDS":
The Worldwound, Mendev, Belkzen, Ustalav & Lastwall.

-The "RIVER LANDS":
Numeria, Brevoy, Razmiran & the River Kingdom.

-The "OCEAN LANDS":
Ruins of Azlant, Hermea, Mediogalti Island & The Shackles.

-The "DESERT LANDS":
Rahadoum, Thuvia, Osirion & Qadira.

And so on.

Will there be a yearly hardcover detailing one of these regions?

Dark Archive

I think its less terrain thing and more geopolitical thing. Like inner sea region could be one. Lake encarthan another, that sort of stuff.

Liberty's Edge

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My roommate suggested that "the Empires of Humanity" made a lot of sense to cover Taldor, Cheliax, and the various splinter nations that have spun off from those two.

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Marco Massoudi wrote:

Will there be a yearly hardcover detailing one of these regions?

While we are certainly more likely to do a book on an entire region than a single nation within one, we don't have plans for any yearly books at this time, mostly because our schedule doesn't go past 2020, so it's unclear what's going to become a recurring thing and what's just on the schedule. A lot of that will likely depend on how well the format and existing books are received which we won't know until later this year.

On a side note, currently all books in this product line are going to be hardcovers, so unless that changes, a hardcover release won't be anything out of the ordinary after August.

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Mark Moreland wrote:
Marco Massoudi wrote:

Will there be a yearly hardcover detailing one of these regions?

While we are certainly more likely to do a book on an entire region than a single nation within one, we don't have plans for any yearly books at this time, mostly because our schedule doesn't go past 2020, so it's unclear what's going to become a recurring thing and what's just on the schedule. A lot of that will likely depend on how well the format and existing books are received which we won't know until later this year.

On a side note, currently all books in this product line are going to be hardcovers, so unless that changes, a hardcover release won't be anything out of the ordinary after August.

Thanks, Mark.

I was under the impression, that you plan to publish about 3 hardcovers a year, like Starfinder does.
One Bestiary, one regional book and one rulebook with new class options.

In addition to the Adventure Paths of course (#150 in january 2020) & the flip-mats and accessories.

Will there still be a map folio for the "Age of Ashes" AP? Because there are none for Starfinder.
I know that i want a map of Isger! ;-)
I imagine that pawn sets are still forthcoming, as they are for Starfinder?


Marco Massoudi wrote:


Thanks, Mark.

I was under the impression, that you plan to publish about 3 hardcovers a year, like Starfinder does.
One Bestiary, one regional book and one rulebook with new class options.

PF2, unlike Starfinder, has two hardcover lines. I'd be surprised not to see a lot more releases than that. 2-3 a year in the Pathfinder Rulebook line, and at least that many in the Pathfinder World Guide line.


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Erik Mona said (on the twitch, I think) that it wasn't set in stone but that this line was likely to be around quarterly.


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James Jacobs wrote:
We WILL finally have a detailed global map though, which I'm very excited and relieved about! :P

Will you guys be releasing a separately purchasable copy of the double-sided map for those of us who want to display both sides on our walls? I expect the answer is yes, but wasn't sure, as possible lack of sales of the previous PF1E world map might preclude a new PF2E one.

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We don't announce unannounced products on the boards here—keep an eye on our front page, our twitch/youtube videos, and convention appearances for product announcements.

Alternately, let us know on the boards what sorts of products you're interested in—that not only lets us see what folks are eager for, but if an idea gains a lot of traction with a lot of other folks asking for it or excited for it, that's good to know too.

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James Jacobs wrote:
Shivok wrote:
Of all the new books this is the one I am most excited about. I am curious to see what AP's have made it to canon ...

I can answer that now: All of them. :P

Not that all of them will have resolutions wide-ranging or notable enough to be mentioned in this book though... some APs are pretty low key from a historical point if the PCs win (which is going to be the assumption for all of them, I suspect... I'm not too fond of hard-coding into the campaign something that says YOUR PLAYER CHARCTERS ARE FAILURES by assuming one of the Adventure Paths is a canonically regarded a failure...).

But the book's still being worked on so I can't give full details yet.

“Reign of Winter Spoilers”:
Good! I’m looking forward to my bard being the canon Regent Lord of Irrisen while he helps prepare Anastasia for her new role as Irrisen’s first benevolent Witch Queen. ;P

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Never subscribed before, but I'm thinking about it for 2e. Which one would I use to start with this book?


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The Fifth Wanderer wrote:
Never subscribed before, but I'm thinking about it for 2e. Which one would I use to start with this book?

After "Druma: Profit and Prophecy" ships in June, the options for starting the Campaign Setting subscription should be that book and the Lost Omens World Guide. I am not sure when they will be renaming that subscription, but it shouldn't affect what you get when you subscribe.


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The Fifth Wanderer wrote:
Never subscribed before, but I'm thinking about it for 2e. Which one would I use to start with this book?

This one (it’s the best!)

Dark Archive

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Lost Omens?

I like it! Long live Lost Omens!


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Please include the varisian bladed scarf (weapon) and the Bladed Scarf Dancer and have it be viable. (I loved all the options for the weapon including the Ashavic dancer) It is one of my favorites and I would love to travel around Varisia whipping a flaming bladed scarf in Pathfinder 2!

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(Tried to ask this during the PF Friday stream today, but mobile keyboard made it seem like I was having a stroke instead.)

The Inner Sea World Guide was the first place where guns were introduced in PF1, which was followed shortly after by Ultimate Combat where the rules were reprinted and expanded upon.

Since Alkenstar is still a thing (one assumes), is there any chance we might see some kind of first-approximation gun rules in the Lost Omens World Guide for PF2?

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Shisumo wrote:

(Tried to ask this during the PF Friday stream today, but mobile keyboard made it seem like I was having a stroke instead.)

The Inner Sea World Guide was the first place where guns were introduced in PF1, which was followed shortly after by Ultimate Combat where the rules were reprinted and expanded upon.

Since Alkenstar is still a thing (one assumes), is there any chance we might see some kind of first-approximation gun rules in the Lost Omens World Guide for PF2?

We'll get to guns eventually for 2nd edition, but that's not something that'll be given rules for in the Lost Omens book. They're still certainly a part of Golarion though.


Does it come with a section dedicated to the core deities? At least half a page for each?

I don't know if it's time to make this question, but, are we sticking with the same number of core deities in the setting? I mean, 20 core deities.

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The Gold Sovereign wrote:

Does it come with a section dedicated to the core deities? At least half a page for each?

I don't know if it's time to make this question, but, are we sticking with the same number of core deities in the setting? I mean, 20 core deities.

We're sticking to the same core 20 deities. This book won't have more info about them, but the Core Rulebook will have a little, and it would certainly make sense to do more info about the deities in the near future, wouldn't it?

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James Jacobs wrote:
The Gold Sovereign wrote:

Does it come with a section dedicated to the core deities? At least half a page for each?

I don't know if it's time to make this question, but, are we sticking with the same number of core deities in the setting? I mean, 20 core deities.

We're sticking to the same core 20 deities. This book won't have more info about them, but the Core Rulebook will have a little, and it would certainly make sense to do more info about the deities in the near future, wouldn't it?
The Raven Black wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
The second book is particularly rules-heavy, but it has some rules I think people are going to adore, and that's really all I can say, I can't give you any hints.

Beyond those you mean ?

My bet : Deities book with rules for Non-Good Champions.

1) Non-Good Champions is something many people have been clamoring for since the beginning of the playtest.

2) It is something Mark himself wishes to see come true.

3) I just realized that it would fit nicely with the fact that Mark used the specific word "adore" and used italics to set it subtly apart from the others.

Also, anathema for all would be perfect content for such a book of deities :-D

Especially since James goes from talking about the 20 core deities, who will already have their anathemas in the CRB, to "doing more info about the deities" (ie, maybe more than the 20 core).

Mark was talking about the second World Guide book BTW.


James Jacobs wrote:
The Gold Sovereign wrote:

Does it come with a section dedicated to the core deities? At least half a page for each?

I don't know if it's time to make this question, but, are we sticking with the same number of core deities in the setting? I mean, 20 core deities.

We're sticking to the same core 20 deities. This book won't have more info about them, but the Core Rulebook will have a little, and it would certainly make sense to do more info about the deities in the near future, wouldn't it?

I would certainly appreciate it! Especially if we go beyond the Core 20.

Maybe a treatment akin to that given to the deities in the Book of the Damned, two pages for each one, covering all the prominent deities in the inner sea, from the core gods to those mentioned in inner sea faith, Nacticula, Casandalee, and as many as possible.


will there be a new kingmaker path for 2.0 with the pc game ?


Marco Massoudi wrote:

What i don't like about this product is that it's only 126 pages (the Inner Sea World Guide has 320 pages, Starfinder Pact Worlds has 216).

A standard Pathfinder AP has 96 pages.
Even if i assume that the "Races", "Religion", "Life", "Factions", "Adventuring" & "Monsters" chapters have been moved into the CRB & Bestiary (as Golarion is now the standard setting), the previous "The Inner Sea" chapter had 180 pages.
If i only count the old 41 regions, 4 pages each, i come up to 164 pages.

Now that we have 10 regions we only need one map for four regions, which clears up some more space.

But if i take into account that we get backgrounds & archetypes, i can't shake the feeling that something will be left on the cutting room floor.

I was rereading the whole discussion and by now I suppose it got clear that we shouldn't be counting "pages per nation" but "pages per region". So even if we get five spreads per region we are still left with 36 pages.

This format was used to successfully cover 14 planets in the Starfinder Pact Worlds, so I'm sure we should expect something close to that.

Grand Lodge

Wait wait wait...this doesnt have the whole Inner Sea Region? No Land of the Linnorm Kings?

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Sakrileg wrote:
Wait wait wait...this doesnt have the whole Inner Sea Region? No Land of the Linnorm Kings?

Land of the Linnorm kings is part of "Saga Lands" region. Region can be multiple nations.


I just noticed on the artwork that each of those space between the pillars are actually portals of some sort! You can see vines from the plant one reaching through!

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Aunders wrote:
I just noticed on the artwork that each of those space between the pillars are actually portals of some sort! You can see vines from the plant one reaching through!

Nice catch.

Doctor Strange did it already though


Aunders wrote:
I just noticed on the artwork that each of those space between the pillars are actually portals of some sort! You can see vines from the plant one reaching through!

The most intriguing part of this cover to me was indeed the portals, as the art ties better with the plot of the first AP (Age of Ashes) in which portals seems to be really important.

I'm not so sure if it's the final cover art... Is it? Was it confirmed to be the final one?

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That is indeed the final cover art.


I want to know who the guy with the longbow on his back is and why Seelah isn't afraid of him.

Also nice graveknight.

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Thomas Seitz wrote:

I want to know who the guy with the longbow on his back is and why Seelah isn't afraid of him.

Also nice graveknight.

That's Valeros and there's little reason for her to be afraid of him.


Adam Daigle wrote:
That is indeed the final cover art.

An awesome cover!

And just realized Seelah and Fumbus are not among the iconic in Age of Ashes.


It doesn't look like Valeros to me, talking bag that eats people...But okay.

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I'm with the talking bag, it definitely looks like Val to me

Dark Archive

It very clearly is Valeros ._. Even if it wasn't, not sure why Seelah would be scared because he is clearly with them against the graveknight


I mean, it's clear it's intended to be Valeros...

IMHO it looks like he is crouching down to tie his shoe. Combat priorities.


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Hey, you don't want your shoes coming untied in the middle of a battle!

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Fumbus is blocking it a bit, but the story is that they were about to go through one of the portals, and Valeros was stowing or retrieving something out of his backpack when the graveknight busted through one of the portals and surprised the trio. Fumbus is seriously trying to drag Seelah back (good luck).

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Or he rolled a 1 on Perception and noticed he had feet.

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Eleanor Ferron wrote:
Or he rolled a 1 on Perception and noticed he had feet.

Happens to the best of us. And also to Valeros.

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Kalindlara wrote:
Eleanor Ferron wrote:
Or he rolled a 1 on Perception and noticed he had feet.
Happens to the best of us. And also to Valeros.

I hope 2e fighters get a fire resistance class feat

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James Jacobs wrote:
I suspect... I'm not too fond of hard-coding into the campaign something that says YOUR PLAYER CHARCTERS ARE FAILURES by assuming one of the Adventure Paths is a canonically regarded a failure...).

That's unfortunate! I was hoping one of the terrible endings of one of the APs was going to happen. But I'm always a proponent of the darkest of timelines.


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caubocalypse wrote:
That's unfortunate! I was hoping one of the terrible endings of one of the APs was going to happen. But I'm always a proponent of the darkest of timelines.

Which one?

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Zaister wrote:
caubocalypse wrote:
That's unfortunate! I was hoping one of the terrible endings of one of the APs was going to happen. But I'm always a proponent of the darkest of timelines.
Which one?

Hell's Vengeance


Bardic Dave wrote:
Xenocrat wrote:
Big Lemon wrote:
Paizo wrote:
The god of prophecy is dead...
???!!?!?
Generalissimo Aroden is still dead.

Right, but unless something has changed in 2E, Pharasma is the god of prophecy, not Aroden.

Possible explanations for this quote:
1) Whoever wrote the blurb made an error.
2) Pharasma is DEAD!!! (highly unlikely)
3) Deity portfolios have been retconned and Aroden is now the (deceased) god of prophecy.

Aroden has ALWAYS been the deceased God of Prophecy. The entire world narrative for the world of Golarian is that when Aroden died that kicked off the Age of Lost Omens. The reason it is called the age of Lost Omens is with THE God of Prophecy dead, Prophecy is no longer valid.

Sure Pharasma is A god of Prophecy but she isn't THE God of Prophecy. It is kind of how there are lots of gods of death but Pharasma is THE God of Death.


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Rysky wrote:
Zaister wrote:
caubocalypse wrote:
That's unfortunate! I was hoping one of the terrible endings of one of the APs was going to happen. But I'm always a proponent of the darkest of timelines.
Which one?
Hell's Vengeance

Well, Hell's Vengeance is the one AP, where the canonical ending IS the terrible ending.


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One more thing: Kingmaker is probably excluded from the list of APs that are canonically supposed to have happened in the new Lost Omens baseline, right?

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