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Veniir, you're in since two were looking for 1e.

I think we're still missing Veniir? If I identified the people who thought this was 1e correctly. Mo posted his character in recruitment.

OK. Pretty sure I've settled on an ancestry, so I'll make my Alias and dot in later today. :)

Maybe ranger…

Since this is already a pretty bonkers concept, would you consider adopting the Automatic Bonus Progression variant? That would allow us players to not worry about the fundamental rune minigame and relieve some of the stress over who's spending how much of the money on what.

Will we get an alert that we're fighting the Final Boss encounter? Sweep wipe with dramatic music, maybe? ;)

Caine is a swashbuckler, Princess is a fire kineticist.

My original idea for this was a rather self-sufficient monk.
I also have an investigator idea and a fighter idea.
I'm also trying hard to see if I can come up with a cleric idea.

Oh, which mythic variant were you planning to use? Standard where it kicks in at 10th level or the one that kicks in at first or one of the others?

This is so insane I've got to try it.

See if my character can survive past the first chapter...

What about the Medium from OA. I don't have Ultimate Psionics. Is there an alternative to the Medium in that?

I agree with the conclusion: this is for a willing ally to accept damage/negative effect and not a loophole to make beneficial effects better.

I disagree with the assessment that use of the rule is up to the GM now that OP has stated PFS uses that rule, else a GM could arbitrarily decide to not use it in the context for which it was intended.

If not, Home Region: Golden Road grants access to the khopesh.

That’s funny, though not for you. The rationale is technically correct—digital randomization is not random—but one would need to be very adept at computer science to abuse that fact.

More likely could be that a specific version of dice roller is suspected of being controlled so rather than playing whack-a-mole versus digital apps, they banned all dice rollers. Suggest they generate a list of allowed dice rollers. Pathbuilder should have a decent reputation.

I wonder if this sets up in-world justification for a general Revered-level AcP boon to create a new PC exemplar rather than a purely AcP gatecheck.

While thematically appropriate, Wished Alive has no Access or Prerequisite option, so it can only be accessed in PFS via boon.

Pirate Rob is correct: this is a discussion best held with your local organizer. You could also consider asking the father (or the VO) how you could adjust your GM techniques to help the son respond faster.

I would also give up on any illusions that you can maintain a certain tone or gravitas in your games. Plenty of players find roleplay difficult, and plenty of adults throw out movie or TV quotes and references that deviate from the setting and/or tone of a given scenario.

You could do that. I would do what Tomppa suggests. I made a cloistered cleric and took paladin archetype (pre-remaster).

Ah, I see.

Elementalist update in ROE doesn't have that verbiage either, interestingly.

You need to Save before switching pages and before closing the browser. I have made that mistake plenty.

The A, B, C, D check boxes are on the second page before yiu enter the scenario code on the third page.

You don't need to log into an account to fill out character information. Click the "Sign Up" button to sign up for the PFS session. You will then be shown a pop up that encourages you to create an account with three options: "I have an account," "Create Account," and "No Thanks." Choosing "No Thanks" takes you immediately to the character details entry form.

To create Sign Up sheets, e.g., as the GM or event organizer, you need an account. Simply having an account requires no money. The paid version allows anonymous emailing of character sheets and a string to copy for rapid completion of reporting details.

Still keeping fingers crossed that someone might say the old metamagic thesis works and I'm just reading it too diabolically.

If there's an existing answer, it will be in the conversion document, which I have a hard time finding.

I don't think you have a way to get to exactly where you want to be with any rebuild boon.

Problem 1: you want to switch your arcane thesis, which is part of your wizard chassis, to the remaster version while keeping the pre-remaster spell schools/focus spell.

No solution.

Problem 2:

The AcP rebuild boon doesn't force you to change anything specific, so you could use it to change your feats without forcing an entire rebuild: removing mauler and rearranging staff acrobat feats.

I now realize hybrid legacy-remaster oracle is a nightmare to understand. I don’t want to have to figure out these ambiguous rule interactions on the fly when GMing.

As a GM, I would like a more standardized endpoint for oracles that removes the ambiguity of how a class works. That is a table argument waiting to happen.

Why on earth would Paizo allow free rebuilds for Player Core 1 characters, but not Player Core 2 characters? Absurd!

So that the nuance isn't lost to others in the several posts of concern: Player Core 2 characters, including oracles, can be rebuilt for free x 1... if they had 1 XP on them before November 2023.

There are two different concerns with the oracle conversion rules:

1) Newer players who may not even have been PFS players before the blog scrolled off the website's front page who created oracles after November 2023 must now pay AcP to rebuild if they want to not be an NPC acolyte class with penalties rather than rebuilding for free x 1. From my perspective, this is the bigger concern, as it disproportionately affects new players and those players may have accumulated more than 12 XP but not enough games for a rebuild boon. They can't play that character to earn AcP, or else they'll be stuck as a pre-Remaster oracle (see below).

2) Older characters who could rebuild but don't want to, however, the way the conversion rules are written, the Mystery must use the remaster version, which is where all the benefits for an oracle used to rest in the pre-remaster version. 3/day spontaneous divine casting, with no benefits from the Mystery, but a curse that now increases each time you cast a Focus spell, and can only decrease by 1 by refocusing, and has no upper limit--those Ancestor oracles are going to be irritated by their Clumsy 6 status--and any other pre-remaster feat or feature that interacted with the mystery benefits won't work, either. It's a legitimate concern.

It seems like some people are getting really spun up. Reminder here:

Alex Speidel wrote:

Linked below is a draft of the updated Remaster Guidelines, which will work in tandem with the Character Options page to bring these classes into alignment.

Emphasis on draft (bold text is on me). I'm sure the decision makers are reading these posts, even as they get ready for GenCon. I'm also sure that at GenCon, Alex and the gang will be hearing more opinions. "Draft" doesn't mean final. I'm sure they will take all our (hopefully respectful) concerns into consideration before going final --- which will be days after GenCon.

I share concerns about the Oracle, but I'm not going to get spun up about a draft.

That the document is a draft is technically true, but I believe you will find the emotional component of the concern comes from the response received following the concern for oracles built after November 2023 being pointed out.

We made it very clear when we first posted the Remaster Guidelines that characters would not be granted a second rebuild. Players who elected to build characters using classes slated for a remaster should have been aware that they would not be granted a rebuild.

Level 1 characters may still freely rebuild as usual. Higher-level characters will require a purchased rebuild.

That response does not sound very draft-ish.

And why do Oracle Mysteries/Curses get replaced by the new ones while other subclasses (like Bloodlines) don't. . .

The problem stems from the PFS rule that features with the same name are treated as an errata by PFS, so PFS players must use the Remaster version. I don't have access to the Player Core 2, but if Angelic Bloodline is still called Angelic, those Angelic sorcerers will need to change to the Remaster version of their bloodline.

The difference being that a pre-Remaster sorcerer using a Remaster bloodline still functions correctly. They just miss out on Blood Potency and any proficiency changes that I might not know about. However, a pre-Remaster oracle with a Remaster mystery 1) looses all benefits from their mystery, 2) can't generate the cursebound status because 3) they can't take the new feats.

An example from Player Core 1: Druid Order Animal kept its name, so Druids must use the new version. Wild Order was changed to Untamed Order, so you have to keep Wild Order if you don't rebuild, which doesn't break anything.

. . .we broke your whole character concept. . .

We, as players, need to be clear on what the problem is, and it is not that concepts were broken, e.g., my flavorful ancestors oracle can't be a gish now, but rather that the pre-Remaster class does not function--the mechanics are broken--except as a very feature poor class.

Furthermore, this makes pre-Remaster oracles so inferior as a class to be an active problem to tables and likely temptation for heated arguments (and bullying) among players once they find out someone brought their beloved pre-Remaster oracle to play (or just don't have enough AcP for a rebuild).

Giving out a rebuild to oracles alleviates that potential harm and has only the downside of creating an expectation for free rebuilds when a class is remastered, though I think they should if the remastering process broke the class.

You misunderstand me. They keep the Legacy, but they do not keep pre-erratas. For example the cantrips that all got errated in the remaster so they got a second damage dice and no spellcasting modifier for damage. Those spells don't exist anymore. Legacy Produce Flame is 2d4. Legacy Ray of Frost same thing. Its a small example but it goes to show if they do an errata the sites which show official rules won't save what is being overwritten.

I think you've chosen an unlucky example.

All from AoN:

You have a deep understanding of the crossbow. When you're wielding a crossbow and use Hunt Prey or use Interact to reload your crossbow, you gain a +2 circumstance bonus to the damage roll on your next Strike with that crossbow. If the crossbow is a simple crossbow, also increase the damage die size for that attack by one step. You must make the attack before the end of your next turn or these benefits are lost.

Your deep understanding of the crossbow allows you to reload efficiently while moving yourself out of the line of return fire. Either Create a Diversion or Take Cover, then Interact to reload. As normal, you must meet the requirements to Take Cover; you must be prone, benefiting from cover, or near a feature that allows you to Take Cover

You prefer to strong-arm or intimidate others rather than rely on finesse or fancy tricks. You might be an enforcer for organized crime, a highway bandit, or a noble who bullies others with threats of your family's power. Or, you might use your skills on the up and up, in a private security detail or as a guard in a city with the right temperament.

You use whatever tools you have at hand to get the job done. You can deal sneak attack damage with any simple weapon, in addition to the weapons listed in the sneak attack class feature. When you critically succeed at an attack roll using a simple weapon and the target has the flat-footed condition (unable to focus on defending itself), you also apply the critical specialization effect for the weapon you're wielding. You don't gain these benefits if the weapon has a damage die larger than d8 (after applying any abilities that alter its damage die size).

You prefer the direct approach: strong-arming or intimidation. You might be an enforcer for organized crime, a highway bandit, or a noble who bullies others with threats of your family's power.

You use whatever tools you have at hand to get the job done. You can deal sneak attack damage with any weapon, not just the weapons listed in the sneak attack class feature. This benefit doesn't apply to a simple weapon with a damage die greater than d8 or a martial or advanced weapon with a damage die greater than d6. (Apply any abilities that alter the damage die size first.) Critical hits you make with these weapons gain the weapon's critical specialization benefit if the target is off-guard to you.

You're trained in Intimidation and medium armor. You can choose Strength as your key ability score. When you gain light armor expertise, you also gain expert proficiency in medium armor, and when you gain light armor mastery, you also gain master proficiency in medium armor.

Its heartbreaking this being rolled out as an errata and not just an option. Wizard got a big rework with remaster but we can still be proper legacy wizards if we choose to be.

This change is going to effect Archives of Nethys and Foundry VTT which change to match the erratas. You won't be able to find the old Oracle outside of your physical APG. Thats not right, we shouldn't be erasing the old Oracle.

AoN, at least, keeps Legacy links to things. You can find it near the thing's title and can swap back and forth between Remaster/Legacy.

Given the extreme overhaul to Oracle, unseen back in November 2023, and that not rebuilding an Oracle results in a non-functioning pile of mechanics, would it be the worst thing in the world to take a moment to consider and confer within the OP team whether allowing all Oracles created before August 12 wouldn’t be a good thing?

Everyone above is correct, so just to say it another way:

"All" still means "All" in that "All characters have [the potential to take] the uncommon options. . ."

Fane's Fourberie is a Rogue and Swashbuckler class feat.

The character must still follow the mechanical rules regarding class feats by being a Rogue or Swashbuckler or by taking the Rogue or Swashbuckler Dedication multiclass archetype feat and the Basic Trickery, Advanced Trickery, Basic Flair, or Advanced Flair feats.

Being granted access no more overrules which classes can take a class feat than it overrules the level requirement of being at least level 2.

You retrain with Downtime, just like regular PF2.

You get 8 days of Downtime after a Scenario (2 days for Quest/Bounty).

It costs 7 days of Downtime to retrain a Feat.

So after you complete a Scenario, instead of rolling Earn Income for 8 days, spend 7 days to retrain and 1 day to Earn Income (or craft or something else).

Under the Tactic class ability, and in "Preparing and Changing Tactics" the text said "These are combat techniques and coordinated maneuvers

you can instruct your allies in, enabling them to respond
to your signals in combat." And "When you drill, you can
instruct a total number of allies equal to 2 plus your
Intelligence modifier, enabling these allies to respond
to your tactics in combat; these allies are referred to as
your squadmates"

Enabling them to respond looks like rules text that enables your squad-mates to take advantage of the granted reactions or free actions based on the specific tactic used. Is there something I am missing?

First, there's no problem with the granted Reactions. The rules for Reactions explicitly state they happen immediately (and there's no text stating if they lack a trigger they occur during your turn like Free Actions have).

What you're doing is reading the text in a way that supports how you (and I) believe the feature should work.

What you're missing is that the text you quoted makes no mention of timing to override the rules text of Free Actions. "Enabling these allies to respond to your tactics in combat" does not grant "immediate" response or response "outside your turn."

And I have experienced at least one GM who reads it such that the Free Actions must wait. Where there is one, there are more, and they are technically correct. So, again, why not throw a few extra words in there to remove ambiguity?

Blake's Tiger wrote:

I didn't remember to get this into the survey, but hopefully other people mention it: free actions without triggers wait until the character's turn to activate under baseline rules; if the Commander granted free actions are meant to trigger on the Commander's action, then they need reference to the Commander's action being the trigger. And if not, that needs to be more clear in the class/feature description.

Given it's not their own thing giving them the Free Action, but someone else actively giving them the ability to take the Free Action, that probably innately counts as the Trigger. Which to be fair has Precedent going all the way back to the original PF2e CRB, with Liberator Champions' Liberating Step. Unless you'd argue that doesn't let the ally Step when it goes off, and instead they have to wait for their turn, in which case... I think you're the minority opinion on that one.

I assumed the Commander's action served as a trigger for the granted free actions until a GM during the playtest pointed out the rule on free actions. Player Core pg. 15

However, they're writing an entire book with the new class in it. We shouldn't have to rely on assumption and referring to pre-remaster class features that don't work well without ignoring a printed rule when they can just slip into the Tactics rules text a line to the effect of, "Free actions granted by a tactic can be used even when it's not your turn."

I didn't remember to get this into the survey, but hopefully other people mention it: free actions without triggers wait until the character's turn to activate under baseline rules; if the Commander granted free actions are meant to trigger on the Commander's action, then they need reference to the Commander's action being the trigger. And if not, that needs to be more clear in the class/feature description.

Also more explicitly stated in the Table Variation Appendix.

Table Variantion Appendix

As a Pathfinder Society GM, you have the right and responsibility to make whatever judgments, within the rules, that you feel are necessary at your table to ensure everyone has a fair and fun experience. This does not mean you can contradict rules or restrictions outlined in this document, a published Pathfinder source, errata document, or official FAQ on paizo.com.

House ruling critical results--fail or success--beyond that described in the source text is a contradiction of the rule.

Whatever changes you make as GM must remain true to the fundamental mechanical structure and challenge of the encounter.

Furthermore, Paizo has officially published critical hit and critical fumble decks, and neither of those is legal in PFS. If the official product version of what you propose is not legal, house ruling it wouldn't be either.

Auditory does not imply speech but can include speech ("can speak or otherwise produce the required sounds"). It includes whistling, snapping, playing a drum, anything that makes noise. The is the Linguistic trait requires language.

I could have sworn the Command an Animal used to have the option for the visual trait as well.

There isn't an official ruling.

Having trained enough cats and dogs, I'd allow it. In a magical world, someone who can regularly change their shape and has a pet as smart as a companion can have worked out a system for that pet to follow their commands in all shapes, in my assessment.

Monk. Stumbling Stance.

I've seen old PFS1 scenarios locked behind two very difficult Perception checks.
I recall that I haven't had branches of a PFS2 scenario gated behind just one skill.
I vaguely recall some side content/assistance being gated behind Diplomacy (and only once specifically calling out "only" and it was just a precursor to a broader arrays of skill checks) very rarely.

Just to point out that it's not so clear cut/one rule fits all situations:

Torag - anathema to show mercy to the enemies of your people
Ragathiel - edict to destroy evil doers
Mother vulture - edict to kill without mercy if it benefits your community
Kalekot - edict kill the guilty to protect the innocent

And you can have Champions (and Paladins) of any of those.

The Decemvirate is a single character, mysterious and untouchable.

Each lodge has a Venture-Captain.

The three Masters are teachers. Don't they serve under the Grand Lodge's Venture-Captain?

The factions are factions and, in my opinion, are far too organized since PFS2 1-01. They should be more like common ideals or motivations causing like-minded Pathfinders to coalesce together from time to time. Some of them might have charismatic leaders or heads but with no organizational authority. But it is what it is, now.

Specific to the PFS2 part of the discussion: the GM must advise you that your intended action would result in infamy and give you, the player, a chance to reconsider. The players at the table do not determine what is or is not infamy.

I could go for a Bounty. Plenty of 1st level characters who could use an XP.

Counter to that assertion: how did Magic Fang, which grants item bonuses work?

Strict RAW, though, that is correct. My interpretation of RAI is that restriction applies to actual items granting item bonuses. E.g., to prevent placing handwraps of mighty blows on animal companions.

Alternative RAI, which I don't ascribe to, is the extra dice applies because that's not a "bonus" but the +1 item bonus does not. However, you could use this interpretation to use handwraps on animal companions to stack dice.

There is a Campaign Clarification that limits Adopted Ancestry.

The Adopted Ancestry feat (page 252) can only be used to select common ancestries or ancestries which all Pathfinder agents have access to (such as kobolds). The Organized Play team will look to create additional boons to allow characters to be adopted by additional ancestries.

Book text wouldn't override a campaign clarification. The boon adds options to the campaign clarification.

I'm fine playing an existing class. :)
Just waiting on tier before choosing which character.

If you want to play a rogue--and we want to play high--I'll play my cleric. I have a rogue (3rd) and cleric (4th) in that range. I probably have some blobs in range too. I've got lots of options for 1st-2nd, but I would expect the playtesters would want to play with as many feats and features as then can.

It would be more appropriate if you were going to do that to use 8 treasure bundles per scenario, which is what the organized play system has figure should be the average treasure bundles earned.

At the very bottom of this page linked below is the official table you're looking for:

Link to Table

Multiply the number in the 8 row by 3, and that's how much you have earned for that level.

With as much content that is sanctioned for Adventure Mode, and given that the credit is applied to a character not participating in the Adventure/AP, I'm not sure what the point of the policy is anymore.

Most PFS scenarios don't have boons anymore, and they're more style than power now, so boon hunting isn't that same advantage as it was in PFS 1e, but if the OP kept the policy in regards to PFS scenarios, I could understand that. Adventure and AP boons, not so much.

I believe that I understand and fully support artists on the issue of corporations hiring actual artists to provide art for their products.

However, as a private citizen who is looking for art to use in my personal hobby activities for which I make no money and, in fact have to shell out money in the case of GMing Organized Play, I don't believe that either artists or Paizo have any business judging me on my use of AI art for fun.

The people playing and GMing in PFS are just private citizens, not employees, playing their hobby in a format open for anyone to join.

And, to be clear, what I use is by no means prodigious: one of my own PCs here, an NPC there.

It seems OK to me. Crane Wing (or the other named monk stance attacks) is the "weapon" rather than the "attack," so it should be OK, but I can see where one might read it the other way.