Pathfinder Lost Omens World Guide

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Pathfinder Lost Omens World Guide

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This indispensable 136-page guidebook to the world of Pathfinder presents everything you need to know for a lifetime of adventure in the uncertain Age of Lost Omens. The god of humanity is dead and prophecy is broken, leaving adventuring heroes like you to carve their own destinies out of an uncertain future!

This gazetteer features 10 diverse regions packed with thrilling and deadly possibilities and is accompanied by a giant two-sided poster map depicting the heart of the Pathfinder setting.

ISBN: 978-1-64078-172-6

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5/5


A Fresh Coat of Paint on Old Ideas

3/5

It's hard to review a book like the Lost Omens World Guide. It's an update to the already extant Inner Sea World Guide published many years ago and made the choice to incorporate the events of 10 years of adventure paths into the metaplot.

Without spoiling the content for the book, many of these choices are going to ruffle some feathers of players from 1st edition (Nirmathas, I'm looking at you) but by and large retained 1E players aren't the core demographic of the book. The mechanical content is sufficient and well-written but feels necessary to replace the decade worth of options and versatility thrown out with the coming of 2nd edition. It feels like there's nothing here for a returning customer.

A solid 90% of this book is made from content originally written years ago and provides little new perspectives. That said, the new content offered is good -- especially the Mwangi Expanse which receives a much needed overhaul in the ways it depicts people of color and their civilizations -- but new content is so few and far between as tobe easy to miss. It's a shame, because the parts in the book where the authors try something new or delve into new ideas are its best features, but when the book is retreading old concepts and locations it seriously falters. I can't help but feel setting Second Edition in a new part of the world would have been a more creatively fruitful and longer-lasting endeavor.

The choices for maps in the book are both curious and frustrating. The poster map included with the book features two versions of an Inner Sea map. One of which was originally created as a fan product and available in a higher-resolution quality (literally 10x the resolution in the book) for free in a thread on Reddit. Since Paizo purchased the rights to these maps they're no longer available in their original form, taking something that was free and made to the community and turned it into something locked behind a fee and only available at a lower quality. I question the choice to do that in as much as it impacts not only the art but also Paizo's relationships with its fans and customers.

All in all, this feels like a 97-page softcover spread out over a larger hardcover. The layout and overall design are solid, but the content is challenging to excite a long-time customer. This was a chance to draw me in with the world and keep my buying products, and it didn't manage to accomplish that task.

For someone who is a returning customer or has been a supporter of Paizo content since the Dragon Magazine days, this book feels superfluous which -- unfortunately -- much of 2nd edition seems to feel. Newer players may find more use in this.

It's hard to get excited about the world of Lost Omens because it feels like there's very little new under the sun.


Overpriced, under delivered

2/5

You don't need this book.

The mechanics take up too much space, and are not very good. Wait for them to be free (a fair price) online.

The campaign stuff that is the meat of the book is surprisingly sparse and is just an avoidable update to the cheaper and longer products that came before. Buy the APs that will give you the context you need, this big picture stuff at a too big price isn't necessary.

The art is...fine. Much is good, some is bad, some is recycled.


I had trouble deciding between 4 or 5 stars...

4/5

...But decided finally on 4 star. Not because of the 26 dollars for pdf vs 1e's setting book being 10 dollars, but because I'm not sure how useful this book is for newbie GMs in comparison to the original 1e setting book. More on that later since I will first go through stuff I liked.

So let's start with art: I think this is one of prettiest and most evocative Pathfinder books art wise. My only complaints is that Amiri's spine seems twisted in one pic and I recognize Lion Blade art being recycled character art from War for the Crown.

What this book is great for is for veteran Pathfinder GMs to learn new information about places not detailed(Isle of Kortos is most obvious example of this) as much before and learning 2e's default setting state for APs(and how some APs always affect world). Like learning how Worldwound's closing and Whispering Tyrant's return affected the world is really useful. Its also nice how Mwangi Expanse region is actually written from perspective of people native there.

I don't personally like all changes(nor do I really mind them), for example, I kinda hope Lord-Mayor Grobaras isn't actually dead :D He is such fun jerk to love to hate and humiliate. Maybe there was Lord-Mayor between him and current one? Also I'm bit confused by default state of Kevoth-Kul and "mysterious death of Technic League's captain". Like, it seems default canon party ignored Palace of Fallen Stars and sneaked to Technic League compound and assassinated Ozmyn? That is... Really hard thing to do and not really intuitive. Also, Zernebeth isn't mentioned at all :D Also find it weird that Gorilla King got killed during Serpent's Skull, but they didn't use continue the campaign article where he comes nascent demon lord.(its seems none of them are treated as canon outside of Lord of Runes pathfinder tales book referring to Shattered Star's one :P)

I also find it bit annoying that Hell's Vengeance article on war's effect on politics seems to be ignored in the book.

But yeah, my favourite articles to read were Golden Road, Impossible Lands and Mwangi Expanse :D Maybe its because I haven't read all 1e setting books, but something about these three articles especially resonated with me.

Now onto the thing I mentioned before: I'm not sure this book is as good for newbie GMs because this is more of macroscale politics book than small scale gazetteer book as original one 1e setting book was. Meaning that while you can spot names of settlements on map, newbie gm might still want to buy old 1e setting books to know more about cities and villages and towns and such. So while book is awesome, I don't think its as helpful to newbies as the "main" setting book. Still this is normal scale for lots of different setting books in different systems, so I guess lots of newbies might actually not feel like that.

But yeah, regardless, I love the book and feel hungry for more books and info :3


A Fantastic Book!

5/5

The Lost Omens World Guide is a great introduction to the Lost Omens setting and is filled with beautiful art. I can't stop reading it and I couldn't recommend it more to anyone who plans to run Golarion or is a fan of it.


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Grand Lodge

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I'm not sure why, but the only download available is One File Per Chapter. Hopefully that gets fixed before subscribers get their access.


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<blinks> You have access to downloads already?

I think I got that in one or two other products, come to think of it. Maybe I should go back and check to see which ones.


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TOZ is a Society Super GM/VentureDude.

It's a perk of the job.


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:( I don't have it yet sadly :(

Sovereign Court

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Oliver Veyrac wrote:
:( I don't have it yet sadly :(

Same. For me, it's the downside to having so many subscriptions set to ship at the same time. The savings is nice, but the wait on pdfs (even just a couple days) hurts.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

I'm glad this is coming because I had to delay my Rulebook, AP and adventure line to get the 15% discount with 4 lines. SO then it's got to get to NZ, but at least I will have the PDFs soon!


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Will the downloads for this be available once the product ships? Or will we have to wait for the actual release date like the core rule book?

Grand Lodge

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You should get your download as soon as your order ships. The CRB was a special case due to the 2E launch.


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TriOmegaZero wrote:
You should get your download as soon as your order ships. The CRB was a special case due to the 2E launch.

That’s what I’d though, but couldn’t find that confirmation anywhere I looked. Which was obviously the wrong place to search


Are there any new ancestries and/or heritages in this book?


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Cruel Illusion wrote:
Are there any new ancestries and/or heritages in this book?

I think it's only new thematic Backgrounds for the regions, and a new Archetype for each region.

But in October you'll get the Character Guide, and that's going to be filled with new heritages and four new ancestries and nearly 100 new ancestry feats.


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Jorsalheim wrote:
Cruel Illusion wrote:
Are there any new ancestries and/or heritages in this book?

I think it's only new thematic Backgrounds for the regions, and a new Archetype for each region.

But in October you'll get the Character Guide, and that's going to be filled with new heritages and four new ancestries and nearly 100 new ancestry feats.

Just three new ancestries: Hobgoblin, Leshy, and Lizardfolk.


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David knott 242 wrote:
Jorsalheim wrote:
Cruel Illusion wrote:
Are there any new ancestries and/or heritages in this book?

I think it's only new thematic Backgrounds for the regions, and a new Archetype for each region.

But in October you'll get the Character Guide, and that's going to be filled with new heritages and four new ancestries and nearly 100 new ancestry feats.

Just three new ancestries: Hobgoblin, Leshy, and Lizardfolk.

My bad, I don't know where I had the four from. Multitasking can be a hard feat to master. :)

Dark Archive

Is there any word on what parts of this are legal for PFS2? Or a link to an additional resources page for second edition Society?


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I just got access to the PDF as a subscriber, but there is only the "one file per chapter" download. I hope we will get a single file version as well.


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Codeman wrote:
Is there any word on what parts of this are legal for PFS2? Or a link to an additional resources page for second edition Society?

I haven't heard of any update but ultimately you'll find that information on the PF2 society page under "Character Options" (click).

I imagine the page will get updated before or around the street date.

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redeux wrote:
Codeman wrote:
Is there any word on what parts of this are legal for PFS2? Or a link to an additional resources page for second edition Society?

I haven't heard of any update but ultimately you'll find that information on the PF2 society page under "Character Options" (click).

I imagine the page will get updated before or around the street date.

Thank you so much for the info and especially the link! You are my favorite kind of person!


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I have access to the PDF as a subscriber as well and only have the one file per chapter download..any word on getting this fixed?


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mach1.9pants wrote:
I'm glad this is coming because I had to delay my Rulebook, AP and adventure line to get the 15% discount with 4 lines. SO then it's got to get to NZ, but at least I will have the PDFs soon!

Just warning you, even with the 15% discount you are paying more thanks to the shipping costs than if you bought the book online and bought the pdf from the site. (although you do get pdfs earlier)

Not that I don't want to support Paizo, just that I have found that their products get to me a lot later and cost a huge amount to ship from this site (even compared to smaller indie rpg teams).


I expect "One File Per Chapter" will remain the default until next week.


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Any comment on the maps from those who have the PDF? Are they all redone? Anything strikingly new?


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What do you mean by "redone"?

Maps in the adventure:

Spoiler:

The inside front cover has a map of the tree city of Akrivel. There's a half page hex map for exploration of a 100-mile wide region of the Mwangi Jungle around Akrivel with an accompanying full page map of 6 encounter areas. Finally, there are full page maps for a mine entrance and the stronghold of the Scarlet Triad. All of these maps are new.

Grand Lodge

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The Gleeful Grognard wrote:
mach1.9pants wrote:
I'm glad this is coming because I had to delay my Rulebook, AP and adventure line to get the 15% discount with 4 lines. SO then it's got to get to NZ, but at least I will have the PDFs soon!

Just warning you, even with the 15% discount you are paying more thanks to the shipping costs than if you bought the book online and bought the pdf from the site. (although you do get pdfs earlier)

Not that I don't want to support Paizo, just that I have found that their products get to me a lot later and cost a huge amount to ship from this site (even compared to smaller indie rpg teams).

thanks, but yeah I know, trying to support Paizo. I'll be switching to ad hoc Amazon purchases once the flow of products means I won't be keeping up. Even the reduced PF2 rate of publication will be to much for me, eventually


Can anyone confirm that the blue and yellow symbol in the Broken Lands blog post is indeed Casandalee's holy symbol?


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Zaister wrote:

What do you mean by "redone"?

Maps in the adventure: ** spoiler omitted **

What adventure? This is the thread for the Lost Omens World Guide.

Silver Crusade

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David knott 242 wrote:
Zaister wrote:

What do you mean by "redone"?

Maps in the adventure: ** spoiler omitted **

What adventure? This is the thread for the Lost Omens World Guide.

I'm guessing Zaister is talking about Age of Ashes.

Grand Lodge

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Steve Geddes wrote:
Any comment on the maps from those who have the PDF? Are they all redone? Anything strikingly new?

I only see the same map with the new country borders and names. Not having the single file version, I haven't checked through everything yet.


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Cheers.


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Are there any maps that give more detail outside of the Inner Sea region? In particular -- Do we have anything better than the maps on page 418 of the Core Rulebook?

Grand Lodge

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I don't see any maps outside of the Inner Sea, unfortunately.

Scarab Sages

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Will the foldout poster map come in a second seperate PDF for subscribers?


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TriOmegaZero wrote:
I don't see any maps outside of the Inner Sea, unfortunately.
James Jacobs wrote:
We WILL finally have a detailed global map though, which I'm very excited and relieved about! :P

James mentioned there would be a global map of Golarion in there, and reconfirmed this at Gen Con, as I remember. Maybe the map just isn’t accessible in one file per chapter format for whatever reason?

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The original intent was to reproduce the global map featured in the Core Rulebook, but the book just had too much awesome stuff going in, so we couldn't fit it in.


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Luis Loza wrote:
The original intent was to reproduce the global map featured in the Core Rulebook, but the book just had too much awesome stuff going in, so we couldn't fit it in.

Oh, okay. Unfortunate, but understandable. Will there be a big version of Golarion’s global map floating around anytime soon then, that was originally planned for this book? I’d totally be willing to buy a poster map of that separately, and I’m sure I’m not alone.


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Rysky wrote:
David knott 242 wrote:
Zaister wrote:

What do you mean by "redone"?

Maps in the adventure: ** spoiler omitted **

What adventure? This is the thread for the Lost Omens World Guide.

I'm guessing Zaister is talking about Age of Ashes.

Oh, right, somehow I thought I was in the Cult of Cinders thread. Now this makes much more sense. Sorry for the confusion. :D


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It would be super cool if we got a book like this for all the continents and subcontinents.

Silver Crusade

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You mean like a "World Guide"? ... Oh, wait... *jk*

Dark Archive

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And someone already made before release a review about how they didn't like how assumed AP endings include options they didn't like :P

Like seriously, even if you dislike that aspect that much, there are middle options like 2 or 3. In general I prefer giving reviews based on quality of book and content rather than pure personal preference. The "Art is book and setting is good" doesn't really sound like its worth one star out of five.

If the parts you think offend 1e veterans affect the enjoyment of book that much, give it at least 2 stars if you think its still good for newbies. Otherwise you are essentially saying good parts of the book or archetypes aren't worth anything

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"anyone who truly cares about their setting"

It's not my setting anyway, I just play in it.


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Rysky wrote:

"anyone who truly cares about their setting"

It's not my setting anyway, I just play in it.

Ha! I'll raise you one with:

It's not my setting anyways, I just take the parts I like (for my group's setting).

Admittedly, it's not as concise as yours, but... <shrug>

Carry on! :D

--C.

Grand Lodge

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Single file version is available!

Silver Crusade

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Yay!

And before I got mine available hehe.... >_>


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We should accept that folks will have differing views on what this book represents. It is their opinion. Others will look at it differently, we cant all just mindlessly cheerlead everything the company puts out or call for Brigading a negative review. Going that route will end up giving us substandard products which helps no one - consumer or company. If the review is critical so be it. If your review is positive so be it.

I personally felt deceived when the world map did not come out. I know that was one of the major reasons I purchased the book and a lot of folks were pumped about that detailed world map. I don't even know when the correction was made in the product page, but Paizo new before hand and should have said something, which they only chimed in after folks noticed it in their pdf and posted on it.

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