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Behold!
INTRODUCTION 4
CHAPTER 1: WILDERNESS HEROES 6
Gathlains 9
Ghorans 15
Vine Leshys 20
Shifter 26
CHAPTER 2: ARCHETYPES AND CLASS OPTIONS 32
Alchemist 34
Barbarian 36
Bard 40
Brawler 42
Cavalier 44
Druid 46
Fighter 50
Hunter 52
Investigator 56
Kineticist 58
Monk 64
Occultist 66
Oracle 68
Paladin 70
Ranger 72
Rogue 76
Shifter 78
Skald 84
Slayer 86
Witch 88
Other Archetypes and Class Options 91
CHAPTER 3: FEATS 98
Types of Feats 100
Feat Descriptions 100
Feat Table 101
CHAPTER 4: MASTERING THE WILD 122
Discovery and Exploration 124
The First World 128
Foraging and Salvaging 134
The Green Faith 136
Harvesting Poisons 142
Hazards and Disasters 146
Herbalism 152
Spells of the Wild 156
Trophies and Treasures 162
Weather 165
Wilderness Traps 172
CHAPTER 5: COMPANIONS AND FAMILIARS 174
Magic Item Slots 176
Animal Companions 178
Plant Companions 182
Vermin Companions 184
Animal Companion Archetypes 186
Familiars 190
Familiar Archetypes 210
Companion Tricks 214
Companion Feats 217
CHAPTER 6: SPELLS 220
Spell Lists 222
Spells 227
Nature Rituals 238
CHAPTER 7: GEAR AND MAGIC ITEMS 240
Adventuring Gear 242
Alchemical Tools 245
Magic Items 246
Magic Plants 247
Wondrous Items 250
INDEX 252
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FOUR PAGES OF BARBARIAN ARCHETYPES?!?!
Sqqqqqqqqqquuuuuuuuuuueeeeeeeeee!!!!
Archetypes and/or rage powers, based on the section title.
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My biggest Shifter question- what are the forms you can take?
Is the Shifter better at shapeshifting than the druid (i.e. can it turn into more creature types, are the forms they take more powerful than a druids etc...)?
What do witches get?
Are there any new sorcerer bloodlines, oracle mysteries/curses, witch hexes, alchemy discoveries, rogue talents, and/or rage powers?
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My long shot hope for this book is a reprint of the avian base form for eidolons compatible with Unchained Summoner and PFS legal. Been dying to make a phoenix-themed Summoner and I was so disappointed when the avian and centaur forms weren't allowed. They were released right before PFU and didn't work with the new eidolon subtypes. T-T
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...would you like some sheep for your wood?
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"Other Archetypes and Class Options"?
Those are a grab bag of classes that have something but not two pages worth.
What did the Cavalier and Paladin get this time around?
Ordered my hardcopy!
I'm guessing Don is waiting for Skeld or Luthorne to fill us in...
*wonders about the spells though....and those nature rituals*
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Is the Shifter better at shapeshifting than the druid (i.e. can it turn into more creature types, are the forms they take more powerful than a druids etc...)?
No. It gets to choose a limited number of aspects with minor and major forms. At 1st level, it gets to take on aspects for a number of minutes per day. At 4th level it gets wildshape but only for its chosen aspects. As it gains levels, more aspects are granted.
No. It gets to choose a limited number of aspects with minor and major forms. At 1st level, it gets to take on aspects for a number of minutes per day. At 4th level it gets wildshape but only for its chosen aspects. As it gains levels, more aspects are granted.Is the Shifter better at shapeshifting than the druid (i.e. can it turn into more creature types, are the forms they take more powerful than a druids etc...)?
Sigh.... another class outclassed in its own game... Are there at least good archetypes?
What did the Cavalier and Paladin get this time around?Three archetypes apiece, to begin with. Looks like the Order of the Green is a reprint.
It is, but it is also one of my favourite Archetypes, so I don't mind. What are the other ones like for each class?
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It is, but it is also one of my favourite Archetypes, so I don't mind. What are the other ones like for each class?
My apologies, Order of the Green is the order, Green Knight is the archetype that goes with it. The other archetype is the Saurian Champion. That one gets bonuses to fight in melee with creatures larger than himself.
The paladin gets the Forest Preserver, Hunting Paladin, and Wilderness Warden. The Forest Preserver gets auras that protect plants and animals from spells and fire, also granting allies fire resistance. The Hunting Paladin's Smite Evil has a Quarry effect, including automatically determining if the target is evil after a minute of tracking. The Wilderness Warden gets abilities that protect her against the common wilderness hazards.
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No. It gets to choose a limited number of aspects with minor and major forms. At 1st level, it gets to take on aspects for a number of minutes per day. At 4th level it gets wildshape but only for its chosen aspects. As it gains levels, more aspects are granted.Is the Shifter better at shapeshifting than the druid (i.e. can it turn into more creature types, are the forms they take more powerful than a druids etc...)?
:( I...I really wanted a class focused on Wildshape. :(
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This has actually moved the book out of my "I'll probably buy it column." If your "It's all about shapeshifting" class isn't better than the druids, especially considering a druid *also* gets 9/level casting, I think you have a serious problem, especially given how many good shapeshifting 3rd party classes there are.
I should clarify that the wildshape is as beast shape II, but the shifter gets abilities from it's form rather than the list in that spell. I'm not sure if gaining abilities earlier is enough compensation, as I'm not versed enough to do the comparision.
May I inquire about the witch archetypes? Are there new hexes?
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Indeed, four of them, involving blighting or bolstering a target with the conditions of the wild or urban environments, such as City Sight or Summer's Heat.
There are more patrons, and the archetypes are Flood Walker, Herb Witch, and Season Witch (who has an excellent piece of art).
I better leave some work for the others. >_>
Thanks! Do they use the specific patron system that they developed in Blood of the Coven at all?
What Archetypes does the Alchemist get, could you give a brief description of them?
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:( I...I really wanted a class focused on Wildshape. :(Is the Shifter better at shapeshifting than the druid (i.e. can it turn into more creature types, are the forms they take more powerful than a druids etc...)?No. It gets to choose a limited number of aspects with minor and major forms. At 1st level, it gets to take on aspects for a number of minutes per day. At 4th level it gets wildshape but only for its chosen aspects. As it gains levels, more aspects are granted.
Stuff like this is why I choose to think new classes won't live up to any hype. If there had been a public playtest maybe it could have made the class fun and not just "druid but worse"
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Stuff like this is why I choose to think new classes won't live up to any hype. If there had been a public playtest maybe it could have made the class fun and not just "druid but worse":( I...I really wanted a class focused on Wildshape. :(Is the Shifter better at shapeshifting than the druid (i.e. can it turn into more creature types, are the forms they take more powerful than a druids etc...)?No. It gets to choose a limited number of aspects with minor and major forms. At 1st level, it gets to take on aspects for a number of minutes per day. At 4th level it gets wildshape but only for its chosen aspects. As it gains levels, more aspects are granted.
I mean have you played the class? DO you know if it is fun or not, or are you just guessing off of a few words?
I'm assuming the shifter gets other abilities as well?
I am still looking forward to it.
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Stuff like this is why I choose to think new classes won't live up to any hype. If there had been a public playtest maybe it could have made the class fun and not just "druid but worse":( I...I really wanted a class focused on Wildshape. :(Is the Shifter better at shapeshifting than the druid (i.e. can it turn into more creature types, are the forms they take more powerful than a druids etc...)?No. It gets to choose a limited number of aspects with minor and major forms. At 1st level, it gets to take on aspects for a number of minutes per day. At 4th level it gets wildshape but only for its chosen aspects. As it gains levels, more aspects are granted.I mean have you played the class? DO you know if it is fun or not, or are you just guessing off of a few words?
I'm assuming the shifter gets other abilities as well?
I am still looking forward to it.
I mean, does it really matter, though? If this was supposed to be the "shapechanging" class, and another class shapechanges better than it, and has 9-level casting, an animal companion, and more class abilities besides, does it really matter if the shapechanging class has a couple extra abilities? It's sort of like if the Summoner was strictly inferior to a wizard who invested maybe a feat or two into the SMX spells. It doesn't matter if the Summoner gets extra abilities relating to outsiders- it's fundamentally failed its core goal of trying to capture a unique feel of summoning creatures (to continue the allegory), or, in this case, transforming into other forms.
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I'll wait for it be released to the public before I read it. :p ;)
Good man
The shifter is really more a Druid/monk hybrid class.
That is the impression I was starting to get out of it. :( I mean thats cool in theory. My book will be here soon I hope!
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I'm curious to what 'better at shapeshifting than the Druid' means to people.
I thought Paizo made it abundantly clear that the Shifter was not 'Wildshape but awesomer' class.
As someone pointed out, that particular bread has been buttered elsewhere quite well.
That is what I thought too. I never had the feeling that the Shifter was supposed to be a better Wildshaper than the Druid. I'm rather amazed how quickly the class is being written off based on one person's assessment by people who don't have the book yet.
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I mean, does it really matter, though? If this was supposed to be the "shapechanging" class, and another class shapechanges better than it, and has 9-level casting, an animal companion, and more class abilities besides, does it really matter if the shapechanging class has a couple extra abilities? It's sort of like if the Summoner was strictly inferior to a wizard who invested maybe a feat or two into the SMX spells. It doesn't matter if the Summoner gets extra abilities relating to outsiders- it's fundamentally failed its core goal of trying to capture a unique feel of summoning creatures (to continue the allegory), or, in this case, transforming into other forms.Stuff like this is why I choose to think new classes won't live up to any hype. If there had been a public playtest maybe it could have made the class fun and not just "druid but worse":( I...I really wanted a class focused on Wildshape. :(Is the Shifter better at shapeshifting than the druid (i.e. can it turn into more creature types, are the forms they take more powerful than a druids etc...)?No. It gets to choose a limited number of aspects with minor and major forms. At 1st level, it gets to take on aspects for a number of minutes per day. At 4th level it gets wildshape but only for its chosen aspects. As it gains levels, more aspects are granted.I mean have you played the class? DO you know if it is fun or not, or are you just guessing off of a few words?
I'm assuming the shifter gets other abilities as well?
I am still looking forward to it.
My argument still stands you have on person saying that its shifting is weaker than the druids, you(to my knowledge) have yet to see the full class, and it's full shifting capabilities just a brief description of some of the abilities by one person, and their own personal opinion on how they compare to druids. A description mind you that has to be brief and as non descriptive as possible so as to not break the good faith on the paizo boards in terms of revealing this kind of information.
My argument isn't on whether the Shifter has been successful or not in it achieving its goal, but rather that to extrapolate a whole class, it's flavor, and its worthiness from one opinion on the internet and a brief description is doing nobody a favor and just leading you to disappointment.
Still waiting on spells here... ;)
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And you.
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I think its hard to balance making something a better shifter than the druid without making them a better fighter than the fighter.
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I could see giving it a lot of utility. they could make great scouts. spys etc with the ability to change their shape. I kind of want a combination of mystique and Vixen.
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I think its hard to balance making something a better shifter than the druid without making them a better fighter than the fighter.
I don't think that should be much of a concern. While the Shifter and Fighter are both melee combatants, Fighter's "thing" is using weapons. Either lots of different kinds or being really good at a specialized few. Shifters, presumably, only use natural weapons. Even if Shifter does more DPR than a Fighter (which isn't the only thing that matters, of course), people will still play/favor Fighter because they want to use cool weapons/dislike nature-themed classes/prefer being a humanoid/etc. Besides, looking strictly at tiers, Fighter is pretty bottom of the barrel so I would hope the Shifter ranks higher than that. No offense, Fighters.