Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Adventurer's Guide (PFRPG)

Hopefully they will upload it along with a blog post, and maybe give us a preview.

So eager to have this I subscribed today! Is it May yet?!

Finally updated.

The three most iconic prestige-classes of Pathfinder are a good choice for the cover, as they are easily recognizable even for people who don't know much about Golarion.

Finally updated.

The three most iconic prestige-classes of Pathfinder are a good choice for the cover, as they are easily recognizable even for people who don't know much about Golarion.

OK I must be missing something because to the best of my knowledge Grey Maidens have never had a published Prestige class. If I'm wrong please tell me where it is I'm only a couple of weeks away from the maidens being introduced to my CotCT game.

Nope, they not a Prestie Class nor Archetype.

Till now.

Nope, they not a Prestie Class nor Archetype.

Till now.

"And there was much rejoicing...yay." Seriously, that will be very cool.

Finally updated.

The three most iconic prestige-classes of Pathfinder are a good choice for the cover, as they are easily recognizable even for people who don't know much about Golarion.

I didn't know who they were till I was told. At first I was like "so instead of the iconics we have bug-dude, a blackguardy dude that isn't the blackguard iconic and the person from the back of the CRB".

So have they revealed yet all the organizations yet?

Marco Massoudi wrote:

Finally updated.

The three most iconic prestige-classes of Pathfinder are a good choice for the cover, as they are easily recognizable even for people who don't know much about Golarion.

I didn't know who they were till I was told. At first I was like "so instead of the iconics we have bug-dude, a blackguardy dude that isn't the blackguard iconic and the person from the back of the CRB".

Which would have been the case if we'd made up brand new organizations, of course.

But by using organizations from Golarion, some of the audience will know immediately who they are and will be all the more excited and intrigued. Which is better than no one knowing anything.

Which would have been the case if we'd made up brand new organizations, of course.

But by using organizations from Golarion, some of the audience will know immediately who they are and will be all the more excited and intrigued. Which is better than no one knowing anything.

Yes, I just found the idea of people who know nothing of golarion finding them recognisable an odd one.

James Jacobs wrote:

Which would have been the case if we'd made up brand new organizations, of course.

But by using organizations from Golarion, some of the audience will know immediately who they are and will be all the more excited and intrigued. Which is better than no one knowing anything.

Yes, I just found the idea of people who know nothing of golarion finding them recognisable an odd one.

Whether or not you recognize them as specific Golarion content, there's a VERY good chance anyone who buys the Core Rulebook will recognize at least the Gray Maiden... since she's on the back cover of the Core Rulebook.

CBDunkerson wrote:

Kalindlara wrote:

Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:

When will the cover be updated?

If you just want to see the cover art, I posted a link to it here. ^_^

A Hellknight, a Grey Maiden, and a Red Mantis assassin walk into a bar...

The bartender says, "can you kill a man for me?"

"Is he a criminal?" the Hellknight asks sternly.

"Is he the ruler of a nation?" the Red Mantis asks menacingly.

"Is he someone who can finally help me have more than a highly limited purpose and one-dimensional backstory?" the Grey Maiden asks plaintively.

The bartender pauses before replying, "It's James Jacobs."

Taking no chances, the Grey Maiden kills her companions before they can respond, then stabs the bartender through the heart and rushes out to guard Mr. Jacobs 24/7, weeping grateful tears of joy.

And Pharasma has her new knightly order.

I think that's probably the nicest Mantis assassin picture I have seen thus far....

Looks like Wayne Reynolds correct ?

3 of its most important NPC members,

Do the NPC members of each organization get stat blocks, or are these just descrpitions of who they are and what they do in the organization? Or perhaps does it depend on the organization?

James Jacobs wrote:

3 of its most important NPC members,

Do the NPC members of each organization get stat blocks, or are these just descrpitions of who they are and what they do in the organization? Or perhaps does it depend on the organization?

They get super short stat blocks; Alignment, sex, race, class, level. Many of them have had stats appear in other products, but again... the focus of the book is on what these groups can do to support and guide adventurers, not on what and who they are themselves.

Sounds like a good and interesting book to me that can greatly help both players and Gms to enhance campaigns.

Question i have to ask though, will there be an organization from Tian Xia? And other places than the Inner Sea? Looking at the Keleshite Empire and Garund there as well?

Great looking book! How long before it would be PFS sanctioned?

So looking forward to this and using bits and pieces in my Curse of the Crimson Throne game.

Looking forward to this. My group is playing Serpent Skull now and factions play such a big part in that series. Totally disappointed however that the 9th Battalion didn't make the cut !

I wish it would hurry up and come out already.....I'm really eager to see what they came up with for the Cypher Mages, RMA, and Grey Maidens....

Organizations of the Adventurer's Guide blog post is up!

Rivethun. Dwarves finally have gotten their own "Golarion" spin. Yay! :)

I'm looking forward to this. I'm getting a feeling of anticipation similar to that of the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting years ago. This feels like I'm getting the part that was missing from the Inner Sea World Guide. Organisations made flesh and not just mentioned in passing. Now you can play a member of one of those pivotal organisations. Nice.

Really, really, really hoping modules or APs will support these new PrCs (i.e. not just destined for NPC stats, but also meant for players in those modules or APs - the cover of the book is begging for its own AP, nay, it's own novel... I would so read the adventures of this evil trio...)

A bit sad that the Sleepless Detectives and the Mendevian Crusaders aren't featured in the list, but other than that it's a pretty solid list.

A bit sad that the Sleepless Detectives and the Mendevian Crusaders aren't featured in the list, but other than that it's a pretty solid list.

I would hope these two would make the cut for a 2nd book, if that happened...hopefully it will. Already excited for this one.

If you're as interested as I am in seeing a follow-up, remember to not just purchase, but review! ^_^

Interesting that Silver Ravens made the list.

*skims* Wow. That is a LOT of character content.

How long before this would be PFS legal?

How long before this would be PFS legal?

It's in the core rulebook line. John Compton helped with the second development pass. My hope is that it's PFS legal pretty quickly as a result... hopefully on par with however long it takes any hardcover rulebook to become "PFS legal."

But don't take that as a promise, since I'm pretty much 99% ignorant of how things become "PFS legal" in the first place!

If we are very lucky it can go legal on release.
If we are lucky, it will go legal about 2 weeks after release (they say they try to do their PFS posts about mid month)
If we aren't lucky, it could be a month and a half or more.

I'm eager to get this but haven't even received a 'Pending' notice yet...which is unusual.

EDIT: Now I know why--shipping doesn't begin until NEXT Monday...razin'frazzin'skrazza'raggit! I has a sad now. :(

I heard an interview on the Know Direction podcast the other day that said that Paizo was going to be experimenting with putting Golarion specific content into the RPG line of books. Then I come to check out what new books are coming.

I gotta say, I do not agree with this new direction. Keep the campaign specific stuff in the Campaign Setting line, and keep the RPG line setting neutral. This should NOT be in the RPG line.

I will not be buying this book, not because I don't like the idea of it, but because I don't want to contribute to Paizo thinking that all of us consumers are supportive of the blurring of the lines between the RPG and Campaign Setting stuff.

I know this has been hashed out back and forth between plenty of people in this thread, and I understand both sides. I don't agree at all with the people defending this crossover. I'm not expecting them to agree with me at all either. I'm not posting this to renew this discussion. I'm posting to add my voice as an additional number to those that have spoken up about their disagreement with the crossover.

I don't expect everyone to agree with our decision to directly support Golarion in the rulebook line, and it wasn't a decision we arrived at lightly in-house to go forward with... but it's the decision we made (and one that I personally am very glad we made) and it's very likely going to be the case going forward.

All I can ask is that folks who don't agree with this decision to check out a copy of the book in your local game store—the TYPE of content we're putting in these books is the same. It's only the proper nouns that have changed. The rule content remains 100% open content, in any event.

But it's not up for a vote. This is what we're doing going forward with the rulebooks for the foreseeable future.

I just want to see what Council of Thieves Pr-Class looks like honestly...

This is what we're doing going forward with the rulebooks for the foreseeable future.

Then I wish you, and the rest of Paizo, luck in your future endeavors. This is where we part ways.

I just want to see what Council of Thieves Pr-Class looks like honestly...

I'm excited to see the final result. ^_^

James Jacobs wrote:

This is what we're doing going forward with the rulebooks for the foreseeable future.

Then I wish you, and the rest of Paizo, luck in your future endeavors. This is where we part ways.

Okay, seriously, this is something I've been wondering for years, but why are customers on Internet so melodramatic? .-.

I mean, seriously, that not first time I've seen "Good bye company, I shall take my leave and never return until new release of something awesome I want"

Like, to me it feels like customers are trying to intimidate company to sell stuff they specifically want ._.

ChrisRevocateur wrote:

James Jacobs wrote:

This is what we're doing going forward with the rulebooks for the foreseeable future.

Then I wish you, and the rest of Paizo, luck in your future endeavors. This is where we part ways.

Okay, seriously, this is something I've been wondering for years, but why are customers on Internet so melodramatic? .-.

I mean, seriously, that not first time I've seen "Good bye company, I shall take my leave and never return until new release of something awesome I want"

Like, to me it feels like customers are trying to intimidate company to sell stuff they specifically want ._.

That is kind of the tactic yes. That is exactly what their doing. Otherwise why say it and not just do it?

CorvusMask wrote:

ChrisRevocateur wrote:

James Jacobs wrote:

This is what we're doing going forward with the rulebooks for the foreseeable future.

Then I wish you, and the rest of Paizo, luck in your future endeavors. This is where we part ways.

Okay, seriously, this is something I've been wondering for years, but why are customers on Internet so melodramatic? .-.

I mean, seriously, that not first time I've seen "Good bye company, I shall take my leave and never return until new release of something awesome I want"

Like, to me it feels like customers are trying to intimidate company to sell stuff they specifically want ._.

That is kind of the tactic yes. That is exactly what their doing. Otherwise why say it and not just do it?

But don't they realize how petty that sounds?

There is no good answer that will make you feel better about it. either they know and don't care or they are too dumb to know neither is terribly satisfying.

Folks; don't worry too much about it. Let's try to stay focused on the Adventurer's Guide itself and not get hung up on whether or not someone else thinks it's a good idea or not, or whether someone will or won't buy the book.

That Council of Thieves bit is a little too late for me (over halfway through book 6 of that module right now), but it'll be neat nonetheless. Looks like a good 18 organizations to get new information on. Can't wait for this book!

A less dramatic way of putting it is "Vote with your wallet." You don't like the way a company is conducting their business or what they're selling? Don't buy their stuff. Sure, if you come to Paizo's forum and tell people "Hey, don't buy their stuff" the devs are going to naturally get defensive about it; it's their livelihood. But that's how business goes.

A less dramatic way of putting it is "Vote with your wallet." You don't like the way a company is conducting their business or what they're selling? Don't buy their stuff. Sure, if you come to Paizo's forum and tell people "Hey, don't buy their stuff" the devs are going to naturally get defensive about it; it's their livelihood. But that's how business goes.

I'd say that rather than devs getting defensive about it, only thing it results is that people who are actually looking forward to stuff start arguing about it with you :'D But yeah, following Jacobs' advice to stay on subject and not worry

A less dramatic way of putting it is "Vote with your wallet." You don't like the way a company is conducting their business or what they're selling? Don't buy their stuff. Sure, if you come to Paizo's forum and tell people "Hey, don't buy their stuff" the devs are going to naturally get defensive about it; it's their livelihood. But that's how business goes.

I love the book's idea and I'll buy it, but there's nothing wrong with people explaining why they are not going to buy it. Paizo needs to know why people *do* buy certain books (whether it's "I like the title font!" or "kitsune iz da bomb!") and why people *don't* buy certain books (whether it's "the paper smells funky" or "I never buy books written by authors with vowels in their names").

I agree the poster above didn't word his post well, but there's nothing wrong with the sentiment (it's basically the opposite of the common advice we're told that if we want to see something, we need to not just buy it but also review it).

This book is the first hardcover since Inner Sea Gods that has me really excited.

I'm hoping the Mammoth Rider prestige class gets the tiny fix it's been needing in the description of the colossus hunter ability :D.

Also looking forward to more Magaambya stuff, I went through Moonscar with a level 6 wood wizard/10 magaambyan arcanist, and my Serpent Skull character is a witch who grew up at the Magaambya Academy. Sadly we're in the final chapter of the final book, so I won't get to use any of the stuff for her, but still, awesome to have more options.

I was hoping for the Palatine Eye, but this looks awesome nonetheless

While it might be late for some, I still want to see Council of Thieves mostly because I always felt they deserved their own Pr-class. Which I'm now glad they're getting.

That Council of Thieves bit is a little too late for me (over halfway through book 6 of that module right now), but it'll be neat nonetheless. Looks like a good 18 organizations to get new information on. Can't wait for this book!

I could maybe pick up the Silver Raven thing in my Hell's Rebels campaign, we're on book 4 I think. If it meshes with my character build that is.