Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Advanced Class Guide (OGL)

Steadfast personality is a nice feat. It's not as good as divine protection though.

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Book is on it's way out of Washington...should get it next week!

The more I read, the more this becomes my favorate book from Paizo ever.

The number of options in the book is staggering. I especially love the options that let you create a character with abilities from other classes. There are a number of characters concepts that I was unable to build effectively a year or two ago that I am now able to build because of this book.

Steadfast personality is a nice feat. It's not as good as divine protection though.

Steadfast Personality is also a relatively balanced feat :-)

Is there anything in here to help out folks using improvised weapons? Archetypes or feats or anything?

Is there anyone in here that gets access to Wild Shape? I think I recall seeing a Hunter Archetype upthread (Feral Hunter). Would anyone mind spoiling when they get access to the ability?

Chris Ballard wrote:

Steadfast personality is a nice feat. It's not as good as divine protection though.

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I believe it's a way to use Cha for saves against fear, and maybe some other emotion stuff. It was mentioned earlier in passing.

Never got word on whether feral hunter qualifies for feats with wild shape prerequisites. And on a similar note, how are the new teamwork feats? Anything nice for Solo Tactics inquisitors?

andreww wrote:

Chris Ballard wrote:

Steadfast personality is a nice feat. It's not as good as divine protection though.

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I believe it's a way to use Cha for saves against fear, and maybe some other emotion stuff. It was mentioned earlier in passing.

From the posts I've seen, Divine Protection is flat CHA to saves but with some divine-ish-ness prereqs.

No idea about Steadfast Personality, though.

QuidEst wrote:

andreww wrote:

Chris Ballard wrote:

Steadfast personality is a nice feat. It's not as good as divine protection though.

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I believe it's a way to use Cha for saves against fear, and maybe some other emotion stuff. It was mentioned earlier in passing.

From the posts I've seen, Divine Protection is flat CHA to saves but with some divine-ish-ness prereqs.

No idea about Steadfast Personality, though.

The Charisma to saves pre-reqs were posted earlier. 5 ranks in knowledge religion, level 2 divine spells and the domain/mystery class feature. So basically auto met by any cleric or oracle or by anyone else taking a single level dip of either and using the SLA's count as spells FAQ.

Oh, earlier, I said that the Lore Warden had a total of +3 over the Bounty Hunter. That was incorrect. With a single feat, the Lore Warden gets a total of -3 over the Bounty Hunter.

QuidEst wrote:

andreww wrote:

Chris Ballard wrote:

Steadfast personality is a nice feat. It's not as good as divine protection though.

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I believe it's a way to use Cha for saves against fear, and maybe some other emotion stuff. It was mentioned earlier in passing.

From the posts I've seen, Divine Protection is flat CHA to saves but with some divine-ish-ness prereqs.

No idea about Steadfast Personality, though.

Yes, I was referring to steadfast. I believe it's to use Cha instead of Wis. Useful for all those Bloodragers!

Steadfast Personality does not allow you to dump Wis.

Steadfast Personality does not allow you to dump Wis.

It makes it slightly less of a bad idea.

There's even a feat to get lay on hands.

Can we get some more details on that, please?

Imagine you're a paladin.

Now Imagine you got lay on hands.

Now imagine you put a level into paladin only every other level.

Now imagine that you decide to go on a murderous rampage, and lose your powers, and thus lay on hands.

Now turn that into a feat.

I'm kind of confused what other details you'd want...

Is there anything in here to help out folks using improvised weapons? Archetypes or feats or anything?

Yes.

Imagine you're a paladin.

Now Imagine you got lay on hands.

Now imagine you put a level into paladin only every other level.

Now imagine that you decide to go on a murderous rampage, and lose your powers, and thus lay on hands.

Now turn that into a feat.

I'm kind of confused what other details you'd want...

wait, are fallen paladins viable now?

So, get LoH as a Paladin with half your HD?

I'm kind of confused what other details you'd want...

Prerequisites would be nice to know :) Also, the feat's name :P

twilsemail wrote:

Is there anything in here to help out folks using improvised weapons? Archetypes or feats or anything?

Yes.

Wildcat monk archetype gets watered down monk unarmed damage for improvised weapons.

There's also a 1st level spell that turns an improvised weapon into a masterwork simple or martial weapon for 1 hour/level.

Can we get some more details on that, please?

There's a feat, Believer's Hands, part of the "Believer" chain of feats that give you access to cleric domains for your deity. It's the second feat in the chain, requiring Wisdom 13 and lawful good alignment. It could easily be taken by a 1st level human cleric, oracle, warpriest, etc.

It gives you one lay on hands a day, just like a paladin's, at half your character level. It also states you can use feats like Extra Lay On Hands to get more.

So, perhaps folks can make an "oradin" by making a straight oracle now, grabbing feats to get lay on hands, extra lay on hands and divine grace. :)

Justin Sane wrote:

Can we get some more details on that, please?

There's a feat, Believer's Hands, part of the "Believer" chain of feats that give you access to cleric domains for your deity. It's the second feat in the chain, requiring Wisdom 13 and lawful good alignment. It could easily be taken by a 1st level human cleric, oracle, warpriest, etc.

It gives you one lay on hands a day, just like a paladin's, at half your character level. It also states you can use feats like Extra Lay On Hands to get more.

So, perhaps folks can make an "oradin" by making a straight oracle now, grabbing feats to get lay on hands, extra lay on hands and divine grace. :)

Do they give full domain access? Wondering how viable it is to gain the domain class feature on a non cleric to qualify for the divine protection feat as, say, a sorcerer. You can do it with a 1 level dip but if you can avoid that it may well be worth it.

Justin Sane wrote:

Can we get some more details on that, please?

There's a feat, Believer's Hands, part of the "Believer" chain of feats that give you access to cleric domains for your deity. It's the second feat in the chain, requiring Wisdom 13 and lawful good alignment. It could easily be taken by a 1st level human cleric, oracle, warpriest, etc.

It gives you one lay on hands a day, just like a paladin's, at half your character level. It also states you can use feats like Extra Lay On Hands to get more.

So, perhaps folks can make an "oradin" by making a straight oracle now, grabbing feats to get lay on hands, extra lay on hands and divine grace. :)

There is officially never a reason to take wholeness of body on a monk now. Believer entry feat>Domain Strike>Believers hands.

Justin Sane wrote:

Can we get some more details on that, please?

There's a feat, Believer's Hands, part of the "Believer" chain of feats that give you access to cleric domains for your deity. It's the second feat in the chain, requiring Wisdom 13 and lawful good alignment. It could easily be taken by a 1st level human cleric, oracle, warpriest, etc.

It gives you one lay on hands a day, just like a paladin's, at half your character level. It also states you can use feats like Extra Lay On Hands to get more.

So, perhaps folks can make an "oradin" by making a straight oracle now, grabbing feats to get lay on hands, extra lay on hands and divine grace. :)

...Are there any good options like this that /aren't/ specifically awesome for divine casters?

...Are there any good options like this that /aren't/ specifically awesome for divine casters?

You want martials to have nice things?

Never got word on whether feral hunter qualifies for feats with wild shape prerequisites.

I would say yes, but note that only animal forms are available (not elemental or plant forms).

Arachnofiend wrote:

...Are there any good options like this that /aren't/ specifically awesome for divine casters?

You want martials to have nice things?

You mean like DEX to damage ?

I'm curious what does the Mutation Warrior have to give up from Fighter?

And are there any new discoveries that look good for that archetype?

Justin Sane wrote:

Arachnofiend wrote:

...Are there any good options like this that /aren't/ specifically awesome for divine casters?

You want martials to have nice things?

You mean like DEX to damage ?

I also have to say that Pummling Style for monks is amazing, even if they get it a bit late.

You mean like DEX to damage ?

...with a category of weapons that can't get Dex to attack without dipping into swashbuckler...

On Amazon, it says the hardcover comes out September 2nd...wut?

Amazon has a different distribution channel. If you want to ensure you get it at the earliest point, order direct from Paizo.

It's been 50 pos 3 posts since Dex to Damage was mentioned.

...until Cheapy took it down to 0.

;)

I'm a signpost. Signposts don't count.

What's the favored class bonuses for bloodrager?

It's been 50 pos 3 posts since Dex to Damage was mentioned.

Cheapy, please - we've been asked to discuss that feat elsewhere. :p

I'm curious what does the Mutation Warrior have to give up from Fighter?

And are there any new discoveries that look good for that archetype?

Gives up armor training. Can only choose from a small subset of discoveries, and none of them are new ones.

Exocrat, do you know what the FCB for bloodrager are by chance? =)

Justin Sane wrote:

Arachnofiend wrote:

...Are there any good options like this that /aren't/ specifically awesome for divine casters?

You want martials to have nice things?

You mean like DEX to damage ?

The dex-to-damage feat was one of the primary ways I advertised this book to my friends. As such I'm pretty pissy about how it was handled. There's another thread for this, though.

ArenCordial wrote:

I'm curious what does the Mutation Warrior have to give up from Fighter?

And are there any new discoveries that look good for that archetype?

Gives up armor training. Can only choose from a small subset of discoveries, and none of them are new ones.

Nothing with flight?

What does the steelsoul bloodrager trade away and what do they get?

Hrothdane. The Steelblooded rager gets heavy armor.

Not sure what they trade out.

I want to know what the FCB are for bloodrager though! ;)

Can anyone spoil some more specifics of Pummeling Style? Prerequisites, the third feat in the chain, that kind of thing.

Is there anyone in here that gets access to Wild Shape? I think I recall seeing a Hunter Archetype upthread (Feral Hunter). Would anyone mind spoiling when they get access to the ability?

Feral Hunter = 4th level (Animals only)

Totemic Skald = 5th level (Totem animal only)

Exocrat wrote:

ArenCordial wrote:

I'm curious what does the Mutation Warrior have to give up from Fighter?

And are there any new discoveries that look good for that archetype?

Gives up armor training. Can only choose from a small subset of discoveries, and none of them are new ones.

Nothing with flight?

I think someone said one of the discoveries was Wings.

Can anyone spoil some more specifics of Pummeling Style? Prerequisites, the third feat in the chain, that kind of thing.

Pummeling Style (Combat, Style)

Prerequisites: Improved Unarmed Strike, BAB +6, (brawler’s flurry, or flurry of blows).

Idea: You collect all your power into a single vicious and
debilitating punch/kick.

//******

Third one in the chain is called Pummeling Mastery.

Does anyone know what the favored class* bonuses are for bloodrager????

Does anyone know what the favored class* bonuses are for bloodrager????

Bonus to Raging Rounds, Saves, Land speed, AC, etc

Which race gets a bonus to saves?

Which race gets a bonus to saves?

Half-elves: Bloodrager: Increase the bonus gained from blood sanctuary by 1/4.