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i dont know how to make my own fourm so i chose this one
my wife died..shes been gone since july2..i was her full time care givers for over 18 years..she had so many health problems those and her meds would fill six pages..she was a fighter and stronger then anyone ive ever met in my lifein her last days i already told james that she told me to tell that james guy i talk about thank you and i said why baby and she said because he made me so happy with his products..
you see my life did not like sc-fi or fantasy..books or movies. had no intrest in rpgs or comics ..but they made me happy and that made her happy..she was sick wheni got the emerald spire in the mail and i was so excited and she was excited because it made me happy...she always wanted to make me happy
i miss her so much..i think i may have to go to grief conselilng....what really hurt me last night..was coming on here like a always do...you see i havent played a rpg in over 20 years but i love reading campaign guides, and rule books and such...well my job was tied to her i worked for the state so suddenly im on unemplyment....i came on there site and there the advanced class guide, the iron gods ap, the people of the stars, the pathfinder tech guide..i relized none of those books would go on my self with the rest of my collection..but worst i would never be able to get them and show them to her and see that look she would get when im so happy...that looks gone forever
in the end i miss her more then i ever thought i could miss anythingthanks comunnity for letting me ramble..i one word of advice is if you love someone tell them...tell them all the time..as the she slipped away at tacoma general the cancer finally taking her..i felt like was slowly turning into a pile of dust....still trying to figure out how to put myself back together
thank all of you for letting me ramble
robert
I hear your message, and I will follow that advice. I hope you get the chance to enjoy playing a game soon. I'm sure she'd like that.
I can only imagine that there is something of use to a rogue in here.
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Aside from the new archetypes, is there anything to improve rogues?The new archetypes are very, very, good. Underground chemist gets sneak attack on splash weapons, and int to damage on splash weapons.
Yes, definitely. It's my favourite rogue archetype so far, but I was referring more to rogue talents and such. I keep yearning for a better way to pull off more than one ranged sneak attack in a round.
I can only imagine that there is something of use to a rogue in here.
I'd personally love it if a few of the Slayer talents are available to rogues. Particularly combat styles, though I am not picky.
I can only imagine that there is something of use to a rogue in here.I'd personally love it if a few of the Slayer talents are available to rogues. Particularly combat styles, though I am not picky.
Well, rogues can select ninja tricks. Why not slayer or investigator talents?
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Silly people, rogues are to be plundered by other classes, not plundering other classes :)
Well, rogues can select ninja tricks. Why not slayer or investigator talents?I can only imagine that there is something of use to a rogue in here.I'd personally love it if a few of the Slayer talents are available to rogues. Particularly combat styles, though I am not picky.
Exactly! I just don't have the book yet, so I don't know if they can.
Perhaps it helps those lamenting rapier-use to point out that one of the swashbuckling archetypes allows the Intelligence modifier to be used for damage with rapiers only.
Or that said rapier's panache pool is the combined value of the Charisma and Intelligence modifiers?
Of course, we always have Irrepressible for those of us who don't care for Wisdom scores.Take a gander at Steadfast Personality. Use that Charisma for fear effects and more now, too!
What feat really scares me? Reckless Rage. Because barbarians needed more damage. :)
That int swashbuckler sounds awesome. Thanks for the insight!
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i dont know how to make my own fourm so i chose this one
my wife died..shes been gone since july2..i was her full time care givers for over 18 years..she had so many health problems those and her meds would fill six pages..she was a fighter and stronger then anyone ive ever met in my lifein her last days i already told james that she told me to tell that james guy i talk about thank you and i said why baby and she said because he made me so happy with his products..
you see my life did not like sc-fi or fantasy..books or movies. had no intrest in rpgs or comics ..but they made me happy and that made her happy..she was sick wheni got the emerald spire in the mail and i was so excited and she was excited because it made me happy...she always wanted to make me happy
i miss her so much..i think i may have to go to grief conselilng....what really hurt me last night..was coming on here like a always do...you see i havent played a rpg in over 20 years but i love reading campaign guides, and rule books and such...well my job was tied to her i worked for the state so suddenly im on unemplyment....i came on there site and there the advanced class guide, the iron gods ap, the people of the stars, the pathfinder tech guide..i relized none of those books would go on my self with the rest of my collection..but worst i would never be able to get them and show them to her and see that look she would get when im so happy...that looks gone forever
in the end i miss her more then i ever thought i could miss anythingthanks comunnity for letting me ramble..i one word of advice is if you love someone tell them...tell them all the time..as the she slipped away at tacoma general the cancer finally taking her..i felt like was slowly turning into a pile of dust....still trying to figure out how to put myself back together
thank all of you for letting me ramble
robert
My condolences on your loss. I know what it's like to lose loved ones to cancer, and to say that trying to continue on afterwards is a struggle is an unbelievable understatement. I hope you have friends and family around you to help you through this, and that you can continue to find joy in things like RPG books and gaming. While it may sound trite, I'm sure that's what your wife would have wanted.
Can someone tell me if Warpriests get the ability/can get the ability to select Domains and maybe Inquisitions?
thanks necro :) i need book, damned time dont run :P
The point is, that a proper piercing weapons requires very little strength to actually stab someone with. At least, if you're not wearing armor anyway.
Even with a dull knife, take a 5 lbs. weight and put it on the pommel of the knife and you'll see it cut into someone. If you take a common steak knife, and a board, and you just drop the knife from about waist height, and you'll see it stick into the board fairly often. Now imagine if that was your neck, or chest, instead. Might not kill you, but it will pierce your skin.
The whole point of dexterity to damage is that you have to exploit weaknesses, like stabbing at the creases int he armor, or something like that. Where as someone with a high strength and a big sword can just smash their way through...
Rapiers definitely had blades, but smallswords didn't and that might be what your friend got as a gift. Fencing with a rapier has a lot of differences than modern sports fencing with a foil (such as using cuts) and in my experience doing both, a rapier requires a good amount of strength to properly use in a duel. To stab a piece of meat on a cutting board with a kitchen knife would obviously require minimal effort, but trying to get past an opponents blade requires more strength with a rapier to handle properly gwt a solid thrust than using pistol grip foils. I never liked the idea of a dex to damage feat for a piercing weapon (such as a rapier) because of how much physical strength it can take me to properly handle a rapier for any extended amount of time. It makes sense for slashing weapons, but I simply don't see the argument for a piercing weapon.
- Any Skald Archetype that get Bardic performances?
- Any Bard love? Feat that let improved bardic performance or let you use 2 performances at the same time? Have they fixed versatile performance? A feat so you can redistribute skills? Any magic or mundane toys? Instrument that can double as a weapon??
- More info on the Shaman spell list? Please :) BTW, I actually like it only got light armor.
- Is the investigator awesome and is there still a way for him to disable magic traps?
On the Swashbuckler and dex to damage topic: Am I right it can’t use the most iconic Swashbuckler weapon, the rapier, and add dex to damage with it? Is it also so that it can’t also use the second most iconic weapon, the Scimitar, because you can’t use weapon finesse with that weapon? Have I misunderstood something or is this the case?
Hunter loosing cantrips? Strange and bad, in my opinion.
So, after reading all the comments on here, as well as all of the previews, I am torn. There is definitely some interesting, awesome stuff in here. However, what would be interesting to me seems outweighed by stuff that I feel neutral about(such as the investigator, which I wouldn't really be interested in if it weren't for the Mastermind archetype) or not interested in at all(equipment, as I build most of my characters to function well with or without equipment.
However, there is one thing that I really need to know to decide properly:
Are there any bloodlines for sorcerers? If so, could someone just list them along with a brief description?
Sorcerers are always my favorite class, so that's a pretty major factor in deciding on this. I know about the two archetypes for it, but no idea about any bloodlines.
I'd really appreciate it, thanks.
Agree, are there any bloodlines for sorcerers?
What does it get and what does it keep?
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Whoever came up with the Daring Champion archetype for Cavaliers? I love them and I want to give them a hug.If that's the one where they give up the pet for some swashbucklery then it will be a group bear hug!
SM
Yes it! Go to hell Horsey!
I can finally be a knight that focuses on swordsmanship and badassary.
Whoever came up with the Daring Champion archetype for Cavaliers? I love them and I want to give them a hug.If that's the one where they give up the pet for some swashbucklery then it will be a group bear hug!
SM
Yes it! Go to hell Horsey!
I can finally be a knight that focuses on swordsmanship and badassary.
It is funny because I just wrote a cavalier and samurai archetype that replaces the mounts for my group. This will probably be cooler though.
Whoever came up with the Daring Champion archetype for Cavaliers? I love them and I want to give them a hug.If that's the one where they give up the pet for some swashbucklery then it will be a group bear hug!
SM
Yes it! Go to hell Horsey!
I can finally be a knight that focuses on swordsmanship and badassary.
But...sigh. Not going to waste my time anymore never going to convince people a base Cavalier is really not that reliant on their mount anyway.
Whoever came up with the Daring Champion archetype for Cavaliers? I love them and I want to give them a hug.If that's the one where they give up the pet for some swashbucklery then it will be a group bear hug!
SM
Yes it! Go to hell Horsey!
I can finally be a knight that focuses on swordsmanship and badassary.
That is very good news.
A group bear hug? Count me in!
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If that's the one where they give up the pet for some swashbucklery then it will be a group bear hug!
Time for the group bear hug!
For those of you who are just relying on the little bit being given in this thread, there is SO MUCH IN THIS BOOK. SO MUCH MORE THAN THE LITTLE BITS THAT HAVE BEEN REVEALED THUS FAR.
Pretty much imagine anything.
Do you want slayer talents and sneak attack on your inquisitor? Check.
Do you want warpriest blessings for your oracle, cleric or inquisitor? Check.
Do you want mutagens and discoveries for your fighter? Check.
Do you want hexes for your summoner? Check.
Do you want to use crossbows as touch attacks reloading them as quickly as "not an action"? Check.
Do you want your rogue to roll his Reflex save in place of rolling Fortitude saves? And get evasion for it? Check.
Literally... mind blown by all the bits all throughout this book. If you were on the fence, get off and buy this book. You'll get years more of Pathfinder from it if you were feeling like you had exhausted the possibilities available thus far.
Whoever came up with the Daring Champion archetype for Cavaliers? I love them and I want to give them a hug.If that's the one where they give up the pet for some swashbucklery then it will be a group bear hug!
SM
Yes it! Go to hell Horsey!
I can finally be a knight that focuses on swordsmanship and badassary.
But...sigh. Not going to waste my time anymore never going to convince people a base Cavalier is really not that reliant on their mount anyway.
I don't think the problem is so much that it's reliant on it (as far as I'm concerned anyway), it's more that it uses up a class feature that is never going to be of use to me, because mounted combat has not once come up in any of my games.
If that's the one where they give up the pet for some swashbucklery then it will be a group bear hug!Time for the group bear hug!
For those of you who are just relying on the little bit being given in this thread, there is SO MUCH IN THIS BOOK. SO MUCH MORE THAN THE LITTLE BITS THAT HAVE BEEN REVEALED THUS FAR.
Pretty much imagine anything.
Do you want slayer talents and sneak attack on your inquisitor? Check.
Do you want warpriest blessings for your oracle, cleric or inquisitor? Check.
Do you want mutagens and discoveries for your fighter? Check.
Do you want hexes for your summoner? Check.
Do you want to use crossbows as touch attacks reloading them as quickly as "not an action"? Check.
Do you want your rogue to roll his Reflex save in place of rolling Fortitude saves? And get evasion for it? Check.
Literally... mind blown by all the bits all throughout this book. If you were on the fence, get off and buy this book. You'll get years more of Pathfinder from it if you were feeling like you had exhausted the possibilities available thus far.
Sounds great! :D
Would you mind? ;P
A note to the folks in this thread,
There are a lot of questions flying around, demands for answers, and just general curiosity. There are a few issues in this book we are going to be addressing in the coming days (/weeks with Gencon being next week and all), so I just wanted to give everyone a heads up and ask for your patience.
Feel free to get excited, feel free to ask questions, thats all good. Just don't get upset if you don't get an answer right away. Most people don't even have the book yet and we are neck deep in con prep and getting a book out the door.
And please refrain from posting entire sections verbatim until everyone has access to the book.
Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Well, if you are not going to address the topic here about why slashing weapons get Dex-to-damage as soon as level 1 for human swashbucklers and level 2 for fighters, while piercing weapons (including the most iconic swashbuckler weapon, the rapier) get left out, then I hope that someone is going to bring forward those concerns at one of the GenCon seminars, so that you can address it there.
Not to mention that I hope that information then gets reported back to us on the messageboard, since much of your customer base does not even have the chance to attend GenCon, which for example is on another continent for me.
So... in order for people to get dex to damage with their rapier they have to dip the Swashbuckler class? Kind of defeats the purpose of a book that was designed to remove the need for people to have to dip a class to make a concept work...
Actually, they would need to dip into Swashbuckler for their dex-to-damage, anyway, since only with swashbuckler finesse + slashing grace it would be legal to use some of those one-handed slashing weapons as finessable weapons in the first place. ^^
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I don't think the problem is so much that it's reliant on it (as far as I'm concerned anyway), it's more that it uses up a class feature that is never going to be of use to me, because mounted combat has not once come up in any of my games.Whoever came up with the Daring Champion archetype for Cavaliers? I love them and I want to give them a hug.If that's the one where they give up the pet for some swashbucklery then it will be a group bear hug!
SM
Yes it! Go to hell Horsey!
I can finally be a knight that focuses on swordsmanship and badassary.
But...sigh. Not going to waste my time anymore never going to convince people a base Cavalier is really not that reliant on their mount anyway.
Same here. My previous statement was almost entirely in jest, I have no hatred of mounts and mounted combat, it's just not my cup of tea.
Well, if you are not going to address the topic here about why slashing weapons get Dex-to-damage as soon as level 1 for human swashbucklers and level 2 for fighters, then I hope that someone is going to bring forward those concerns at one of the GenCon seminars, so that you can address it there. Not to mention that I hope that information then gets reported back to us on the messageboard, since much of your customer base does not even have the chance to attend GenCon, which for example is on another continent for me.
Or, you know, wait until the GenCon dust settles and the Paizo guys have a wee bit more time to sit down and discuss the book on the message boards. :)
Rapiers definitely had blades, but smallswords didn't and that might be what your friend got as a gift. Fencing with a rapier has a lot of differences than modern sports fencing with a foil (such as using cuts) and in my experience doing both, a rapier requires a good amount of strength to properly use in a duel. To stab a piece of meat on a cutting board with a kitchen knife would obviously require minimal effort, but trying to get past an opponents blade requires more strength with a rapier to handle properly gwt a solid thrust than using pistol grip foils. I never liked the idea of a dex to damage feat for a piercing weapon (such as a rapier) because of how much physical strength it can take me to properly handle a rapier for any extended amount of time. It makes sense for slashing weapons, but I simply don't see the argument for a piercing weapon.
The point is, that a proper piercing weapons requires very little strength to actually stab someone with. At least, if you're not wearing armor anyway.
Even with a dull knife, take a 5 lbs. weight and put it on the pommel of the knife and you'll see it cut into someone. If you take a common steak knife, and a board, and you just drop the knife from about waist height, and you'll see it stick into the board fairly often. Now imagine if that was your neck, or chest, instead. Might not kill you, but it will pierce your skin.
The whole point of dexterity to damage is that you have to exploit weaknesses, like stabbing at the creases int he armor, or something like that. Where as someone with a high strength and a big sword can just smash their way through...
I don't want to argue with you about this as I don't know nearly enough about rapiers to be any sort of authority. Only thing I can say is that my friend has told me, repeatedly, that wielding a rapier relies far more on his agility and dexterity than his strength.
There is a difference, after all, between brute strength and endurance. Someone can have a lot of endurance without bulking muscles, look at people like runners or gymnasts. Not saying they aren't strong, but aren't rippling with muscles as one would be in Pathfinder.
As for his swords (he has 3 I think), all of the blades are 3 ft. in length or longer; so I doubt they're 'short blades'.
I do know that he told me that, in essence, there are three kinds of rapiers. One was a piercing rapier, that the modern foil is descended from; it was used entirely for thrusting attacks and only the tip had an edge so that it could slide in and out of the body quickly. One was more like a conventional longsword; it had an edge to it and didn't make thrusts because it was a heavier blade and you couldn't retract it quickly if you hit. The third was an attempt at a hybrid between the two, in which it would be easy to thrust with, and have a slashing edge; it didn't work well because the blade was too thick for thrusts, but it wasn't strong enough for slashes and they just never really worked well.
However, the rapier as depicted in Pathfinder is a thrusting weapon, which relies a lot on being quick, precise, and agile. That is, according to what my friend has told me, the videos I've watched, and what little I've read on it.
Well, if you are not going to address the topic here about why slashing weapons get Dex-to-damage as soon as level 1 for human swashbucklers and level 2 for fighters, then I hope that someone is going to bring forward those concerns at one of the GenCon seminars, so that you can address it there. Not to mention that I hope that information then gets reported back to us on the messageboard, since much of your customer base does not even have the chance to attend GenCon, which for example is on another continent for me.A note to the folks in this thread,
There are a lot of questions flying around, demands for answers, and just general curiosity. There are a few issues in this book we are going to be addressing in the coming days (/weeks with Gencon being next week and all), so I just wanted to give everyone a heads up and ask for your patience.
Feel free to get excited, feel free to ask questions, thats all good. Just don't get upset if you don't get an answer right away. Most people don't even have the book yet and we are neck deep in con prep and getting a book out the door.
And please refrain from posting entire sections verbatim until everyone has access to the book.
Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
You mean don't get dex - to - damage, don't you? To the big question is why not to rapier?
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On the Swashbuckler and dex to damage topic: Am I right it can’t use the most iconic Swashbuckler weapon, the rapier, and add dex to damage with it? Is it also so that it can’t also use the second most iconic weapon, the Scimitar, because you can’t use weapon finesse with that weapon? Have I misunderstood something or is this the case?
I don't have the book myself, but based off what I've read here, it seems that Slashing Grace allows you to deal Dex to Damage with one-handed slashing weapons.
Not slashing light weapons (like a Wakizashi), or slashing 2-handed weapons (like an Elven Curved Blade), or one-handed piercing weapons (like a Rapier), or light piercing weapons (like a shortsword); it only works on slashing one-handed weapons.
Second, Slashing Grace doesn't allow you to treat the weapon as finesseable. So if you use Slashing Grace with a longsword, you get to make your attack roll with your strength score, and your damage roll with your dexterity score.
However, if you are a Swashbuckler, you can wield a Scimitar and treat it as a one-handed piercing weapon(with Slashing Grace), which allows you to use your dexterity score for attack rolls once you get Swashbuckler's Finesse. Swashbucklers Finesse, being the ability that lets you use your dexterity score for attack rolls with all light or one-handed piercing weapons.
So... this means that a Swashbuckler treats a battleaxe as a one-handed piercing weapon if he has Slashing Grace, which lets him use his dexterity score for both his attack rolls and damage rolls with his battleaxe.
Let me reiterate. He uses his dexterity for attack and damage with his
Since a Rapier isn't a one-handed slahsing weapon, he can't get Dex to Damage with it. So the most iconic Swashbuckler weapon in all of film or literature history... cannot be used as effectively on the Swashbuckler class as an axe can.
This completely boggles my mind.
Well, if you are not going to address the topic here about why slashing weapons get Dex-to-damage as soon as level 1 for human swashbucklers and level 2 for fighters, then I hope that someone is going to bring forward those concerns at one of the GenCon seminars, so that you can address it there. Not to mention that I hope that information then gets reported back to us on the messageboard, since much of your customer base does not even have the chance to attend GenCon, which for example is on another continent for me.Or, you know, wait until the GenCon dust settles and the Paizo guys have a wee bit more time to sit down and discuss the book on the message boards. :)
At GenCon, they can't run way. :p
Seriously, I slept over it and am still just as upset as I was when I went to sleep. :-/ The bastard sword and dwarven waraxe get dex-to-damage, but the rapier does not? What?!?
Do you want slayer talents and sneak attack on your inquisitor? Check.
Oh, crap! I may have to completely reimagine/rework the Slayer/Inquisitor that I have then!
Is this the Sanctified Slayer archetype?
You mean don't get dex - to - damage, don't you? To the big question is why not to rapier?
Yes, sorry, I have been up for maybe 30 minutes and am still rubbing the sleep out of my eyes. I could be formulating better, but sleepy + being upset are not the best combination, I fear.
What I meant to say was, please someone ask Jason/the developers at GenCon why slashing weapons get dex-to-damage, while piercing weapons (which include the most iconic swashbuckler weapon, the rapier) are left out. Since even unwieldy weapons like the bastard sword and dwarven waraxe get this benefit, while some of the most dexterity based weapons do not get it, this is puzzling and upsetting and seems to sabotage the Swashbuckler right out of the gate.
Agree
It'd be like if the introduced a Wizard that can't use a staff, or wand.
On the Swashbuckler and dex to damage topic: Am I right it can’t use the most iconic Swashbuckler weapon, the rapier, and add dex to damage with it? Is it also so that it can’t also use the second most iconic weapon, the Scimitar, because you can’t use weapon finesse with that weapon? Have I misunderstood something or is this the case?
I don't have the book myself, but based off what I've read here, it seems that Slashing Grace allows you to deal Dex to Damage with one-handed slashing weapons.
Not slashing light weapons (like a Wakizashi), or slashing 2-handed weapons (like an Elven Curved Blade), or one-handed piercing weapons (like a Rapier), or light piercing weapons (like a shortsword); it only works on slashing one-handed weapons.
Second, Slashing Grace doesn't allow you to treat the weapon as finesseable. So if you use Slashing Grace with a longsword, you get to make your attack roll with your strength score, and your damage roll with your dexterity score.
However, if you are a Swashbuckler, you can wield a Scimitar and treat it as a one-handed piercing weapon(with Slashing Grace), which allows you to use your dexterity score for attack rolls once you get Swashbuckler's Finesse. Swashbucklers Finesse, being the ability that lets you use your dexterity score for attack rolls with all light or one-handed piercing weapons.
So... this means that a Swashbuckler treats a battleaxe as a one-handed piercing weapon if he has Slashing Grace, which lets him use his dexterity score for both his attack rolls and damage rolls with his battleaxe.
Let me reiterate. He uses his dexterity for attack and damage with his
Since a Rapier isn't a one-handed slahsing weapon, he can't get Dex to Damage with it. So the most iconic Swashbuckler weapon in all of film or literature history... cannot be used as effectively on the Swashbuckler class as an axe can.
This completely boggles my mind.
I’m upset. Very upset. I can see the need to stop abuse of the lance, but why not just add rapier as an exception. Just as the have with weapon finesse.
It'd be like if the introduced a Wizard that can't use a staff, or wand.
Or retracted the 50% damage benefit of two-handed weapons.
It'd be like if the introduced a Wizard that can't use a staff, or wand.Or retracted the 50% damage benefit of two-handed weapons.
Not the same. See, the Rapier is absolutely *the* iconic Swashbuckling weapon. The Swashbuckler, being an agile and dexterous combatant, and the rapier being an agile blade which the Lightsaber (an elegant weapon of a more civilized age) was based off of. So it would make sense that the Swashbuckler would be able to use his Dexterity to deal damage with the Rapier.
But no. So the Swashbuckler can't use a rapier, the iconic swashbuckling weapon, as effectively as he can use a battle axe, or a longsword.
It's more like a Wizard that can't use a staff as a Wizard with a staff is about as iconic as one can get.
I mean, there are some iconic images that just go together:
Wizards have staffs,
Swashbucklers have rapiers,
Knights have a lance or sword,
Vikings have an axe,
Samurai have Katana,
Ninja have shuriken,
Robin Hood has a bow etc.
These are images that belong together. So lets build a game where none of them can use their iconic gear.
Wizards don't use staves, swashbucklers can't use rapiers, knights don't get lances, or swords, or armor, or horses, vikings are sophisticated as f$~% and drink tea and never wield weapons, samurai live in caves and use clubs, ninja get drunk all the time and stumble around making lots of noise and have never heard of subtlety, and Robin Hood is named as such because he is actually a little girl named Robin that wears a hood.
Makes sense to me right?
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Ugh, I should just avoid this thread all together. Honestly, I'm not sure what annoys me more, the fact Rapiers don't get dex to damage, or that there is no Energy Sword in the book that is supposed to mix Science-Fiction with Sword and Sorcery Fantasy.
Likeness to the Lightsaber be damned, there should have been an energy blade in that book.
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It is nice to hear that Monks FINALLY got a nice thing. How many Pummeling feats are their?
So... this means that a Swashbuckler treats a battleaxe as a one-handed piercing weapon if he has Slashing Grace, which lets him use his dexterity score for both his attack rolls and damage rolls with his battleaxe.
Let me reiterate. He uses his dexterity for attack and damage with his
Since a Rapier isn't a one-handed slahsing weapon, he can't get Dex to Damage with it. So the most iconic Swashbuckler weapon in all of film or literature history... cannot be used as effectively on the Swashbuckler class as an axe can.
This completely boggles my mind.
He probably won't though, since he needs the 18-20 crit range. So scimitar it is. Or a katana if he's prepared to spend an extra feat. Shame.
But what about the equipment section? Any new/cool weapons there?
It's kind of funny... People wanted a Dex to Damage feat because they didn't want to all be shoehorned into using the Scimitar with Dervish Dance, or be forced to wait until level 6+ to be able to deal Dex to Damage with their Swashbuckler...
So they make us a feat that makes Scimitar the best option in an entirely different way...
Congratulations, you don't have to take Dervish Dance. But you still have to use a Scimitar.
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Is it such a big deal to pick up an agile enchantment?
Agile is from a Golarion specific book. Many GM's only allow stuff from the setting-agnostic hardcovers.
Even if that were not the case, giving dex-to-damage to bastard swords and dwarven waraxes but not rapiers still is a bizarre decision by the developers.