I will point out that the PCs don’t offer peace to the Legion, they do for Azaersi once they find out everything, and that’s at the very end after they've done a good job carving through the psychopathic and warmongering gobs. Which means there’s a lot less of those, whereas the non-psychopathic and warmongering goblinoids wouldn't have been in the Legion in the first place and are now the main population of Oprak since they finally have a home.
It will be interesting to see the society they build and the culture they develop with their new nation. I always liked the hobgoblins as antagonists that were at least equals with the other nations and cultures. I doubt we'll have time to see generational advancements at least in canon but I usually time jump my campaigns by 100 years to give me some breathing room between what the publisher's doing and what I'm doing in my own campaign so an established nation of hobgoblins with their own customs and mores could be a thing.
I'm looking forward to the hobgoblins development from a culture engaged in unending war for survival to a culture that has to maintain a hard won nation. Rome or, especially, Sparta would be the easy answer but there are other societies built on warrior codes that carved out huge chunks of history for themselves. I don't see the hobgoblins fracturing into dozens of squabbling tribes but maintaining a highly militaristic society where every hobgoblin counts and every hobgoblin knows their place. Perhaps every hobgoblin trains as a warrior but there are those who make the military their profession. Volunteers make for a better professional military than conscripts. The first order of business would be to rebuild their strength and fortify their new home. Then they can start developing their own cultural identity which will hopeful include cobblers who can craft combat boots and other footwear.
Michael Sayre wrote:
And no matter how many times I stab it with my steely knife the Rough Beast just won't be killed.
Mark Moreland wrote:
Players in Agents of Edgewatch are assumed to be members of Absalom's city watch from its various districts placed on an elite squad to protect a World's Fair style event.
Absalom Vice? Complete with pastels, smuggling and supercarriages?
CSI:Absalom? Complete with shades, convoluted "plots" and highly suspect investigation procedures?
I promise that if I'm on the Vice squad I won't be corrupt and shake down criminals....
I'm really excited about the upcoming adventures in and around Absalom and hope we get more set in less developed areas.
I've really enjoyed all the content we've gotten for the Avistani part of Golarion and would like to see more of it developed but focusing more on the Saga Lands and the Broken Lands.
The area I'd really, really like to see more of is the Impossible Lands. I'd like to see an AP set in the Mana Wastes and Alkenstar but touching on Geb and Nex. An AP that lets us explore Jalmeray and Vudra would be next on my Golarion wish list.
Yes! I'm so hyped for 2E that I almost forgot all the Starfinder stuffs.
The deck of many words sounds really interesting and of course moar ships!
Wow. I didn't think the Swashbuckler or the Investigator would make the cut as classes. They seem like they'd be perfect archetypes but then again, as full classes, we should get multiclass archetypes for them so we can mix and match with other classes.
Oracle and Witch are solid choices that I am looking forward to! I hope witch is the prepared caster whose patron determines which tradition they get access to but I can understand if they are the prepared occult caster. I'd just like the inquisitor get that job! Either way I hope the patron get more of a role in the class.
My guesses would be:
I just hope we don't have to wait for 5 years to get the psychic. The psychic made me depreciate psionics in my games.
I also hope to see the gunslinger early on. That is another iconic class from Paizo.
I'm really happy with the ancestries. That about covers the ones that I always gravitated to so if the next big book has dhampirs, fetchlings, kitsune, nagaji, strix and vishkanyas I'll be mega stoked! I'd also like to see ifrits, oreads, suls, sylphs and undines sooner than later but I understand that it will take time to get there.
The new archetypes look interesting. We'll be getting things that are generic enough to apply to all classes so I could do a liberator champion pirate for Skulls and Shackles. :D
I'm really hoping that we get updated 1E classes in the first couple of years so we can move on to new horizons and I'm really looking forward to what we get for new archetypes and ancestries. The future is looking good!
I'm looking forward to this even thought there's enough in the CRB alone to keep me happy for awhile.
I read through the CRB last night. I was reading through the classes and ancestries with an eye towards remaking characters of yore. I'm really, really impressed with what I saw. I could see various ways to accomplish some of those characters that were easier than they ever were in any edition of D&D or Pathfinder 1E. I especially love the new archetype system! I think they were right to only include the basic archetypes for multi-classing. Those alone had me thinking up new ways to make old characters but more importantly I was also dreaming up NEW characters! For the first time in 30+ years of gaming I actually want to play a paladin! I'm going to work on making some characters over the weekend since I didn't have time to do it today.
The actual nuts and bolts of the system itself remind me over a well tuned machine. Everything just fits together and makes sense. I found it really easy to parse how the game works and I can't wait to play it.
I'll be selling off my Pathfinder 1E hardbacks to make room for more Pathfinder 2E and Starfinder. I'll keep the PDFs because there are a few characters that I doubt I'll be able to play outside of 1E which is fine. It will take a few months for 2E to spool up.
All things considered I think the CRB is a solid foundation to build another 10 years of gaming on. I'm looking forward to not only playing but writing and GMing again.
And I want to play a paladin champion! I never thought that would ever be a thing!
I'm so glad I have a short day today so I can spend the evening curled up in bed with a nice cuppa tea and devour this thing whole. I've been glancing over bit and pieces while on break at work. I'll probably wait until tomorrow to make characters but at first glance Paizo have not exceeded my expectations so much as blown them out of the water.
I'm loving everything I've seen so far. This is the game I've wanted to play for decades. I'm going to see if anything changes after I make a couple of characters tonight. There's a few characters that I've never been able to get exactly right in any edition of D&D but was able to get really close to with Pathfinder. For the first time in a long time I'm really looking forward to making characters and rolling some dice. Moreover, I'm actually excited to start writing and GMing for this system since it looks like a lot of the drudgery has been removed.
This is awesome! I will absolutely back this!
Kingmaker is the perfect AP to port to Pathfinder Second Edition since everything you need is built into the chassis of the core rules. I'll get this and the "Age of Ashes" to start off Second Edition.
I'll have Rise of the Runelords Anniversary Edition and Curse of the Crimson Throne Hardcover to say farewell to First Edition while I wait for Second Edition to spin up. Exciting times for gamers!
Simple procedures going wrong are not rare, they are shockingly common.
A google search will show you pages and pages of instances "master" medics making costly mistakes because even with the entirely of modern medic at our disposal people still screw up.
I'll give you a personal example. My aunt almost died because her primary care physician missed TWO tumors over two years of multiple, sometimes weekly, office visits that included batteries of tests and x-rays. It wasn't until she ended up in the emergency room on the edge of collapse that the tumors were detected and at that point they were 22lbs between the two of them. Her new doctor removed them and she's doing much better now.
Thank you for all of you hard work! I can't imagine the kind of stress nor the levels anxiety involved over the last few weeks. The sites seems to be back on an even keel. I hope we are regaled with the highlights of the great battles fought; of losses endured and victories won. I understand if that's not possible but I have visions of a team of ysoki, androids and SROs battling goblin saboteurs across the no-man's land of the Server Room. There may be a hostile A.I. involved.
Is there anything we can do on our part to help out? So far the only thing I've noticed that is still an issue is that the post count is still pushed up against the end of the title. I'm not sure if that's a feature or a bug.
Thank you again for all the blood, sweat and tears you've put into the last few weeks.
I've been reading the PDF since last week. I finally got the book on Saturday and started really digging into it. I haven't tried making a character just yet but I am really impressed by the system as a whole. I'm going to make a few characters this weekend to see how all the parts fit together. I'm not expecting to be able to accomplish everything that I want with a playtest document. I also understand that the playtest is for working out the kinks in the base system and wasn't meant to be a full-fledged game with print ready layout.
This is really nothing new though. It went mostly the same when the original playtest for 1E came out 10 years ago. There was a lot of "rabble! rabble! rabble!" early on then as well. The best you can do is flag the worst of them and ignore the rest.
My order was waiting for me when I got home from grocery shopping today!
I've been skimming through the PDF and I can't wait to tear into the book itself!
The transparency and due diligence that you've shown in handling a situation completely out of your and Paizo's control is one of the many reasons I am happy to support you. I'll use my $15 credit to cover the shipping when I top off my collection of 1E books this fall. I usually get stuff like that from Amazon since I can grab used hardbound books at a steep discount. Instead, I will be order them through Paizo since this is 100% Amazon's fault.
Thank you for all of your hard work, Vic!
I've already sacrificed a few postal workers to my cats for not getting it here early and now I'm going to have to wait even longer???!!!
I will survive with just the PDF. The world will not end. The sun will still rise in the east and set in the west.
Thank you for being up front and letting us know as soon as possible. You did you level best by acknowledging that you needed outside help in the first place and going to the one company who should have been able to handle this without breaking a sweat. I appreciate you keeping us updated and I look forward to devouring the book once it gets here.
I'll use my credit to grab some of the 1E PDFs that I've been holding off on so there's that!
I'm not sure what to do about those poor postal workers though...
Mats Öhrman wrote:
I could totally see the Bard doing "jazz hands" to enrage the entire table. Maybe save that for the Bloodrager?
Short answer: Kineticist and Alchemist. Rituals would also be cool.
I'm already using your Magus for the "magic warrior" spot. It checks off all of the right boxes for the job and covers a design space that the Solarian doesn't. I like the Solarian as a "totallynotajedi" ascetic warrior; however, the Solarian is not a warrior who uses magic like a Magus does.
The only other design space that isn't covered by core Starfinder classes is a magic skill monkey. The Alchemist could take that space as could the Monk or the Kineticist. Maybe roll the Monk and Kineticist into the same class?
I really liked the Starfarer's Companion and I'll buy the next one you put out as well. In fact, I'm really looking forward to it.
Mark Seifter wrote:
The line is a lie. Genius and madness bleed into and shade each other.
I'm loving the new bard. The bard has always been my favorite class to play since AD&D 2E and I am very happy with this version. I just wish my playtest book would hurry up and get here already!
Try pressing the little red button on the bottom.
As someone heavily invested in PFS, I am rather saddened by the move to 2E. So far I have only liked maybe 20% of what I have seen them post for 2E, and unless there is some MAJOR design changes during the playtest, I currently have zero interest in ever converting over to 2E.
So far I've liked everything I've seen in the blogs and plan on going all in unless they make a bunch of major design changes. I don't think they're going to do that though. I think they are going to fine tune the system they have and make minor changes where necessary so that they have a solid foundation on which to build the next 10 years of Pathfinder.
I plan on buying the last few books of the current edition and then starting fresh with Pathfinder 2E. I love how they've grown Pathfinder over the last 10 years but Pathfinder was a patch for a game system that was showing it's age when Pathfinder was born 10 years ago. I'm not surprised that they waited until the 10 year anniversary to make a solid break and move forward with Paizo's vision of what a game system could be. It's not too hard to see where Pathfinder 1E's limitations, inherited from 3.X, are becoming noticeably difficult to design around. It is simply time to start from scratch and build a new system that takes into account not only 20 years of 3.X and Pathfinder but 20 years of game design in general.
I still have dozens of characters that I'd like to run in Pathfinder right now. I still have years to do so. I have at least 2 years of Pathfinder campaigns to run before I'll need new material. I'm going to use that time to learn the new system by participating in Pathfinder Society. I really like the idea of starting at ground floor and working my way up. I wasn't able to do that with Pathfinder 1E.
I was going to port most of the Pathfinder classes over to Starfinder since that ruleset resolves most of the issues that I had with Pathfinder. I was going to make it my go to rule system for everything. I've changed my mind now that Pathfinder 2E is coming. I've decided to let Starfinder be Starfinder. There's no need to saddle it with Pathfinder's baggage when I can use it to explore new concepts within Starfinder's own paradigm.
I'm going to buy Book of the Damned, Ultimate Wilderness and Planar Adventures to round out my hardback collection. Those hardbacks will always have a place on my limited shelf space. I'll finish grabbing a few PDFs and physical copies of the things I like the most while I wait for Second Edition to start.
I'm looking forward to Pathfinder Second Edition and I'll have Pathfinder First Edition for many more years.
Unless Paizo send ninjas to destroy the physical and digital copies of all the stuff I've bought over the last ten years. If that is a thing that happens then...
Logan Bonner wrote:
I was really hoping that there would only be "Light" and "Heavy" armours anyway so that's not a bad idea! It just simplifies things without really taking anything away.
A "Attack: Touch" that is codified to have the +x from whatever built into it and can be specified in the description for the attack. So Chill Touch would specify that it was a Attack: Touch +x or something like that.
We'd only have to worry about two kinds of armour and only one armour class.
Jason Bulmahn wrote:
I can't wait to play one! I'd rather it was the Tengu but I can think of a bunch of character concepts that I can run with Goblins. The first will be the "Tunnel Rat."
Steven "Troll" O'Neal wrote:
It states they're blinded in "bright light." Normal light levels would likely be uncomfortable, but not blinding. I'd rule that the cheapo sunglasses would negate the dazzled condition.
My take on it is that the ambient lighting in a station or ship wouldn't be enough to trigger the dazzled condition but walking outside while planetside would absolutely require either the environmental protections of armour OR a pair of goggles similar to welder's goggles. A pair of wrap around shades specifically designed for the purpose would work as well.
Backers have been getting a steady stream of updates on IZ's progress. I really like the direction they are going with their design decisions.