Paizo PDF Pricing Changes

Monday, October 17, 2022

For many years, Paizo has largely set PDF pricing as a percent of the full print MSRP. While this process worked well early on, the rise of digital goods and expressions has matured, and the exceptions made for certain categories to be priced higher or lower has somewhat scrambled the logic used to build those systems.

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Effective October 26 for new releases and November 1 for all other PDFs (including jpegs for some maps and card products), Paizo will be changing prices in the following categories. You’ll probably find exceptions for some products as well, but this guide covers most cases.


Product Category Current New
Pathfinder rulebooks $14.99 $19.99
Adventure Paths $17.99 $19.99
Standalone Adventures $15.99–$17.99 $19.99
Bounties $2.99 $4.99
Quests $2.99 $4.99
Lost Omens sourcebooks $24.49+ $29.99
Lost Omens Absalom $38.49 $29.99
Lost Omens Regional $34.99 $29.99
Flip-Mats (all) $8.99–$10.49 $9.99
Map Folios (all) $13.99+ $9.99
Flip-Tiles $13.99–$24.99 $9.99
Flip-Maps $10.49+ $9.99
Pawns $13.99–$17.99 $9.99
Player Companions $7.99–$10.49 $9.99
Cards $15.99 $9.99
Bestiary Battle Cards $41.99 $19.99
Spell Cards $17.49–$38.49 $14.99
Starfinder Battle Cards $41.99 $19.99
Starfinder Spell Cards $20.99–$24.99 $14.99
Starfinder rulebooks $9.99 $19.99

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Digital sales are an important component of Paizo’s revenue, and your PDF purchases allow Paizo to continue producing all the great Pathfinder and Starfinder releases. These price changes will also affect the pricing discounts you see through Paizo Connect (My Partner Authorizations in your account settings) for those purchases. Not all Paizo licensees use Paizo Connect to offer discounts, and those that do use it offer various levels of discounts, so adjustments may result depending on the type of service they provide.

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Silver Crusade

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eddv has a good point, before some of the price hikes, it was moderately viable to support a local store with purchases, while also buying the same product from Paizo because one wanted/needed the pdf.

With the new cost rising to the level of or eclipsing the cost of the physical books (after all many retailers do various levels of discounts) it can feel a bit weird to pay the same or less for a physical book that must have included the cost of printing, shipping etc.

Ideally, some sort of option that enabled retailers to sell the book with a pdf code, or to generate one as they sell it to you, would help.

In my limited experience (FLGS are somewhat less common in my area) org play players that play at the store will find other ways to spend money, card sleeves, snacks/drinks and dice are popular options, but for players that want to have access to their books on the go, .pdfs are unfortunately very hard to beat, and thus the hardcovers don't seem to sell well.

Unfortunately, while Paizo.com sells "Print/PDF Bundle" that option suffers from the same issue as subscriptions, as far as customers outside the US are concerned. Shipping cost and tax make it prohibitively expensive, and while that is not a problem Paizo can solve, a way to discount the pdf significantly if you already own the printed version might make that product more appealing to stock.

Though to be honest, this has been discussed to death, if the higher cost is helping to make sure that wages are not eaten up by inflation, I am all for it.
The price increase to bounties makes them rather hard to suggest compared to Paizo's other adventure products.

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Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook Subscriber

Yeah, at this point I see print and PDF as separate products. You wouldn't expect to get a code for a free product with any product in any other store. Only the fact that it's the same content in a different format makes anyone think of it differently.

When I buy the PDF, I'm paying for the work that went into making and hosting the content in a different format. And that work deserves payment.


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The fact that the Starfinder rulebooks were ever 10 bucks is insane, frankly. Obviously it sucks that things are getting more expensive, but also these are essentially toys that we get 70% of for free. Not really th worst thing.


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Thank you for this clear and transparent information post. I especially like the advance notice before it goes into effect; I now can make the choice to pick up any last 'maybe' selections at the current prices. No buyer is ever truly *happy* with rate increases, but these are - as far as I've experienced with the products impacted - reasonable and fair.


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TriOmegaZero wrote:
Yeah, at this point I see print and PDF as separate products. You wouldn't expect to get a code for a free product with any product in any other store. Only the fact that it's the same content in a different format makes anyone think of it differently.

Except TONS of publishers do give free PDF with physical products, including those purchased in FLGS and not directly. Have you really never encountered Bits and Mortar?

As for other products: Innumerable Blurays come with free redemption codes for streaming. Buying CDs often come come with digital downloads. I've done novel preorders that included epubs as well.

It's not at all uncommon or unusual. Tons of media comes free digital with a physical purchase, and [at least among publishers active in the US], Paizo is in the minority, alongside, WotC, for not doing it.


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emky wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:
Yeah, at this point I see print and PDF as separate products. You wouldn't expect to get a code for a free product with any product in any other store. Only the fact that it's the same content in a different format makes anyone think of it differently.

Except TONS of publishers do give free PDF with physical products, including those purchased in FLGS and not directly. Have you really never encountered Bits and Mortar?

As for other products: Innumerable Blurays come with free redemption codes for streaming. Buying CDs often come come with digital downloads. I've done novel preorders that included epubs as well.

It's not at all uncommon or unusual. Tons of media comes free digital with a physical purchase, and [at least among publishers active in the US], Paizo is in the minority, alongside, WotC, for not doing it.

None of those businesses run on a subscription model where the free PDF is the incentive to subscribe.

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Totally Not Gorbacz wrote:
emky wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:
Yeah, at this point I see print and PDF as separate products. You wouldn't expect to get a code for a free product with any product in any other store. Only the fact that it's the same content in a different format makes anyone think of it differently.

Except TONS of publishers do give free PDF with physical products, including those purchased in FLGS and not directly. Have you really never encountered Bits and Mortar?

As for other products: Innumerable Blurays come with free redemption codes for streaming. Buying CDs often come come with digital downloads. I've done novel preorders that included epubs as well.

It's not at all uncommon or unusual. Tons of media comes free digital with a physical purchase, and [at least among publishers active in the US], Paizo is in the minority, alongside, WotC, for not doing it.

None of those businesses run on a subscription model where the free PDF is the incentive to subscribe.

Nor do they have their full rule catalogue online for free.

Grand Lodge

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Yeah, what they said. And no, never encountered Bits and Mortar. Sounds like they need more marketing.

Silver Crusade

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I almosts forgot, as I saw other people mentioning it... classy move to announce these price adjustments ahead of time so people can make plans.


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Rysky wrote:
How dare Paizo pay their employees instead of keeping them locked up in cage in the warehouse with merely a typewriter and coffee for company.

My problem is not with people being paid a fair or even a good wage as I personally think that's the way it should be. Mine is quite the opposite as I hate the idea of printing the books in China, even if there would be a bump in prices printing with a more friendly country. That though is another argument for a different time.

Keep up the good work Paizo, I truly hope a wage increase is in all your employees near future.


I think this is good. Your products are well worth it, Paizo. Happy customer here!


saw someone mentioning a fair point about shipping and thus making printed material less interesting. I have to agree that this and the fact that more and more everything is going digital (I love reading my pdf's on my ereader and save space in my game room now) it is only a natural result that pdf's are getting equal to print versions. And as long as they give a nice discount on foundry material they put out if you have the PDF I find it all a good deal for my end.

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Glad to see you are raising the prices of the PDFs, they are undervalued IMO and I hope that it helps make sure that people are paid fair wages in times of increased inflation.


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The PDF prices are very fair. No complaints here, really!

For years now I've been pretty frustrated how Paizo appears to be the only non-Wizards publisher that doesn't bundle digital along with physical, but lately I've finally come to peace with the idea that their business model and production schedule make them a bit unique in terms of its viability. It's unfortunate for consumers but Paizo not making ends meet is much more unfortunate.

It does suck for everyone purchasing Kingmaker though. Since it's not part of any subscription, those of us who were too late for the crowdfund are just kind of holding our breath till next week and hoping it goes for a not painful price. I'm pretty much blowing all my fun money for the rest of the year on this and Impossible Lands, so the PDF might well be out of reach. :(


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Luckily I never buy PDF. It does appear strange that PDFs will now be as expensive as actual physical copies if you look for a somewhat discounted seller. However in any case Paizo direct sales were non competitive outside of the US so impact is minimal.

It does make me wonder why they can’t deliver the same service and quality level as eg Free League (Vaesen is truly a work of beauty) - which being in Sweden should be at least as expensive. However if the money goes to improving wages and their international distribution system - the price change would be of value.

For Kingmaker I find it painful that they will ship to US non-backers while we still await the deliveries in Europe…. but their disregards of anyone not in the US has become part of their business model….


Aaron Shanks wrote:
Vardoc Bloodstone wrote:
Aaron Shanks wrote:
We'll be updating all prices, including Pathfinder First Edition. Most product line categories are the same. Rulebooks are Rulebooks, Adventure Paths are Adventure Paths, Adventures (standalone) are Adventures/Modules, Cards are Cards, etc.

I’d like some clarity on the Player Companion and Supplements lines. Many of these are little more than 32 page booklets.

Honestly, from a marketing perspective, I think it would make sense for these aged and dated products to be discounted.

Sure the Player Companions are listed above at $9.99, which is a streamlined average of the $7.99–$10.49 price. The Campaign Setting supplements are unchanged at $15.99.

I've just looked at several 1st edition Campaign Setting supplements. They are currently listed at $13.99 for the PDF ($9.99 for the print). Are they going up to $15.99, or remaining unchanged at $13.99?

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Aaron Shanks wrote:
We still have free product to onboard new players in the form of Free RPG Day Adventures. I have a few other ideas I am working on. We give Society scenarios free to participating retailers. If any Society members find they don't have sufficient access to onboarding materials then I would like to hear that.

Just wanted to toss in another two c-bills.

Even though I've no interest in PF2, I do appreciate the free content on roll20 for PF2, so I can experiment and learn the website tools with live content.

Add me to the 'wish for higher res maps' but since all my stuff is PF1, I'll keep buggering along.

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Swiftbrook wrote:
Aaron Shanks wrote:
Vardoc Bloodstone wrote:
Aaron Shanks wrote:
We'll be updating all prices, including Pathfinder First Edition. Most product line categories are the same. Rulebooks are Rulebooks, Adventure Paths are Adventure Paths, Adventures (standalone) are Adventures/Modules, Cards are Cards, etc.

I’d like some clarity on the Player Companion and Supplements lines. Many of these are little more than 32 page booklets.

Honestly, from a marketing perspective, I think it would make sense for these aged and dated products to be discounted.

Sure the Player Companions are listed above at $9.99, which is a streamlined average of the $7.99–$10.49 price. The Campaign Setting supplements are unchanged at $15.99.
I've just looked at several 1st edition Campaign Setting supplements. They are currently listed at $13.99 for the PDF ($9.99 for the print). Are they going up to $15.99, or remaining unchanged at $13.99?

I've been told the first edition Campaign Setting prices won't be changing.


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not happy to see this, and it will likely impact my future Paizo purchasing. For me, the issue is ownership. If I buy a physical book, I own it, I can read it, loan it to a friend, give it away as a gift, or sell it to someone when I am done with it. As a digital file, I own nothing, I purchase the ability t9 use data on my personal devices. I still feel like ownership has a value.


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medtec28 wrote:
not happy to see this, and it will likely impact my future Paizo purchasing. For me, the issue is ownership. If I buy a physical book, I own it, I can read it, loan it to a friend, give it away as a gift, or sell it to someone when I am done with it. As a digital file, I own nothing, I purchase the ability t9 use data on my personal devices. I still feel like ownership has a value.

Confused... Why wouldn't you still be able to buy the physical books? Maybe I am reading your post wrong or you might have read the blog a little off? They aren't transitioning to PDF only, just adjusting prices for the PDF's.


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medtec28 wrote:
For me, the issue is ownership. If I buy a physical book, I own it, I can read it, loan it to a friend, give it away as a gift, or sell it to someone when I am done with it. As a digital file, I own nothing, I purchase the ability t9 use data on my personal devices. I still feel like ownership has a value.

I think you are a bit confused about Paizo's digital products. Unlike some sellers, you can actually download and store Paizo PDFs permanently. This is not a 'rent access to a cloud file' scheme. There is no remote deletion of their books from your devices like Amazon.

If Paizo decides to remove a product from their product line, it is not erased from all your devices. If Paizo goes out of business, you don't lose all the digital products you've previously purchased. They're still sitting on your hard drive. Heck, you could probably burn a CD and store them the old-fashioned way.


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Yoshua wrote:
medtec28 wrote:
not happy to see this, and it will likely impact my future Paizo purchasing. For me, the issue is ownership. If I buy a physical book, I own it, I can read it, loan it to a friend, give it away as a gift, or sell it to someone when I am done with it. As a digital file, I own nothing, I purchase the ability t9 use data on my personal devices. I still feel like ownership has a value.
Confused... Why wouldn't you still be able to buy the physical books? Maybe I am reading your post wrong or you might have read the blog a little off? They aren't transitioning to PDF only, just adjusting prices for the PDF's.

no, but they are increasing the price of the digital product, a product which already lacks most of the perks of “ownership”. The difference in cost, in my mind, offsets the lack of “ownership”

I was only intend8ng to highlight one of the often overlooked differences in physical and digital media…


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medtec28 wrote:
Yoshua wrote:
medtec28 wrote:
not happy to see this, and it will likely impact my future Paizo purchasing. For me, the issue is ownership. If I buy a physical book, I own it, I can read it, loan it to a friend, give it away as a gift, or sell it to someone when I am done with it. As a digital file, I own nothing, I purchase the ability t9 use data on my personal devices. I still feel like ownership has a value.
Confused... Why wouldn't you still be able to buy the physical books? Maybe I am reading your post wrong or you might have read the blog a little off? They aren't transitioning to PDF only, just adjusting prices for the PDF's.

no, but they are increasing the price of the digital product, a product which already lacks most of the perks of “ownership”. The difference in cost, in my mind, offsets the lack of “ownership”

I was only intend8ng to highlight one of the often overlooked differences in physical and digital media…

ah, makes sense. They are also decreasing costs for a few products that I want digital, like the battle cards.

They haven't increased digital costs in.... well I don't think I've seen it since I've been paying attention.

The only serious increase I see is in the Starfinder Rule Books, which admittedly won't affect me personally, but 10 bucks for a rule book is sorta insane.

Core books being cheap is one thing, it gets people into a product. But even 20 bucks is cheap to me for a core book compared to the ongoing costs of delivering new content.

I agree about the ownership and value. Which is why I subscribe to the Adventure Path. I check the quality of the book when I get it and then store it away as sets. I only use the PDF's I get with the subscription to keep the original physical products as mint as possible.

The digital products though? Even with watermarks and licensing they hold no physical value in the real world either way. Digital to me is just an optional bonus, one that I tend to take at every turn for daily use.


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You can still share a PDF with people. Just don't be posting it publicly and it's totally fine for your friends to read your book.


Grankless wrote:
You can still share a PDF with people. Just don't be posting it publicly and it's totally fine for your friends to read your book.

Fairly certain that this is, in fact, discouraged. As I indicated above, most digital media only gives you the right to use it, not ownership of it. here is a post from 9 years ago supporting my position.

https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2q18r?Digital-sharing-questions

Silver Crusade

Discouraged yes, since Paizo as a company want more people to buy their books, understandable.

Again though, discouraged, they’re not gonna send a hit squad after ya.

(Starting out my group pooled money and I got all the subs so we could use all the books).


While I am not happy with the price hike I understand why it was done.

They need to do what they need to do as a company.


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medtec28 wrote:
Grankless wrote:
You can still share a PDF with people. Just don't be posting it publicly and it's totally fine for your friends to read your book.

Fairly certain that this is, in fact, discouraged. As I indicated above, most digital media only gives you the right to use it, not ownership of it. here is a post from 9 years ago supporting my position.

https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2q18r?Digital-sharing-questions

It's a file on your computer, dog. They can't get rid of it. Do you think Paizo would send a hit squad after you if you let a friend look at your book? No. They would of course encourage you to all buy multiple copies, but if they required a group of five to all buy their own individual copies of the CRB and not let anyone share ever, they'd probably have a hard time of it (especially because, again, these rules are also available for free). Don't be so paranoid about sharing with your friends.


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When it comes to sharing it comes down to how you share it. Passing someone your tablet so they can read it? Great.

Sending someone the PDF? Paizo does not want you to do this. Can you physically do this? Yes. But you can also physically walk into a store and steal a book. You shouldn't, but you can.

If you send someone your pdf and it gets out in the wild then you have no one to blame but yourself if Paizo finds your copy in the wild and then closes your account on Paizo.com. Sure you have your pdf's, but you lose access to your account. No thanks, not with the risk.

If you are sharing with your friends, hope you really trust them not to click the links. If you know you know.


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Starfinder Superscriber

With the SRD resources being ubiquitous I don't see any reason to share PDF's with my players. If they need to read some flavor text I can pull it off my bookshelf or copy and paste/screenshot the passage.

I have in the past posted PDF's to my group Discord on links that self-destruct in 3 days when the SRD was slow in updating.


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these days the youngsters (yes I am counting myself in the older section) find whatever they want in a pirated way if they really want. For my group I let them build their PC's in pathbuilder where they find almost everything they need and then the 1 guy who wants to know more flavour and background around what he choose I do lend him a book and if I would have it in pdf I would lend him the PDF also (he does have the core and advanced of himself, so I don't have to lend him out a lot).
But like I said we are older and have no problems with buying the things we really like/want.
When I was young and without a lot of cash I did had a 3.5 dnd printed copies of a book of 3. So like most of the younger people without the means I was guilty at that time, but I think any company should be aware that they can't stop that.
So if those people buy the books and get a pdf and share those pdf's in the group I think that is only normal and even considered nice thinking of how they just as good get everything illegal.

To close off I think every company which rely on prints these days have hard times. For example I have 2 friends who make Belgian graphic novels and even with that you can find illegal versions of their work only a week after it has hit the stores. So no easy times all around I guess.


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Leon Aquilla wrote:
Twilight2k wrote:


Shadowrun is usually $20. There are a ton of places that charge less for pdfs than Paizo.

Have you ever read a Shadowrun sourcebook written after about 2001? They don't playtest or edit. At all.

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I agree with everyone regarding not getting a PDF when you buy the book. I understand they want to use it as an incentive for their subscriptions, but I would be willing to pay an additional $5–10 for the PDF when I purchase the book.
If you want to write a check to Paizo gratis for 200$ out of some sense of guilt, feel free. There is no incentive for me to buy hardbacks brand new without the free PDF.

All of SR4[a] and some of SR5. The playtesting in SR4 was not bad. The layout and editing definitely got worse with SR5 (but I didn't play enough to really be clear on playtesting but some things did seem out-of-whack (both over and under powered)). If you had said, SR5 and after, I would have agreed.


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Fumarole wrote:
Twilight2k wrote:
Leon Aquilla wrote:

I believe it's been explained that the places where the PDF is provided gratis are boutique outfits. They certainly don't have near the level of output that Paizo does.

All the places I can think of off the top of my head (Modiphius, Free League) all maybe produce 1-2 books in a product line in a year.

That being said, you do get the PDF gratis, if you pre-order from them.

Really? Boutique outlets? Some of the largest European publishers give free pdfs with all physical book purchases (from their web store - I don't think any do it everywhere). 1-2 books in a product line per year is irrelevant when they operate close to a dozen product lines.
And who hosts the infrastructure for these PDFs? Near as I can tell, mostly a third party like DriveThruRPG. This isn't true for Paizo. There is overhead associated with providing and supporting this infrastructure, which Paizo charges for and companies like DriveThruRPG are happy to absorb in order to drive users to their site (it is their business model, after all).

It varies. Quite a few companies used to host things themselves but determined it was easier (and presumably cheaper) to use DriveThru. Paizo could just as easily use DriveThru (or another service) for their PDFs.


Starfinder Superscriber

Look, buy it or don't, but I'm not interested in engaging with you since you seem to only reply here to pedantically correct minutiae unrelated to the larger point.


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Leon Aquilla wrote:
With the SRD resources being ubiquitous I don't see any reason to share PDF's with my players.

That's because you added "with my players" to this particular part of the discussion. Try removing it and see what happens.

Here's a hypothetical. I am the person in my circle of RPG enthusiasts who has the most disposable income. I subscribe to adventure content. I sometimes sit at the table as a player, and sometimes as a DM.

Does it make legal sense that when I'm a player my DM has to buy a redundant copy of the PDFs to prep at home (copy & pasting / changing text, printing hand-outs, reading material on a tablet) while I can legally loan them my physical books? Yes. Does it make logical sense? No.

So there's a reason.

That said, I don't see that there's any need or benefit or means to change the file-sharing rules without completely nerfing any ability to discourage rampant piracy. Right now it's the threat of loss of access to future and stored content that keeps fence-sitters from dumping their collection in public. If you say "you're allowed to share with your group" and content is found in public, you can just say "one of my group must've had their computer stolen".

Meh. As-is is fine.


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Well, you can buy PDFs as "digital gifts", which means that your DM would have the PDF instead of you. I have done that a couple of times.

But since there is no way to transfer a PDF to someone else as you can with a physical product (as there is no method for deleting your copy as you provide a copy to someone else), there is no secure way for your to buy a PDF for yourself, read it, and then fully transfer it to someone else.


Could get the pricing updated for those items that won't be available until after the price hike on November 1st?
Seems rather shady to currently be displaying the PDF for Starfinder Interstellar Species at $9.99 (available Nov 16), when YOU KNOW that it will be $19.99 at that time.

Silver Crusade

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Well you can't preorder a PDF so no worry there.

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ImortalGuardian wrote:

Could get the pricing updated for those items that won't be available until after the price hike on November 1st?

Seems rather shady to currently be displaying the PDF for Starfinder Interstellar Species at $9.99 (available Nov 16), when YOU KNOW that it will be $19.99 at that time.

No shade intended. I understand our web store team of 2 are at capacity preparing the site for the PDF updates on Nov 1. Such a temporary update on all the products would prevent us from the update.

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Hello!

New prices all go into effect at 12:00 AM PST tonight! I've set any products that are about to increase in price to display their current prices as discounts, so they're easier to spot at a glance, and I'll be lurking for a while to make sure everything transitions smoothly if anyone has any questions!

Thanks! :)


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Mika Hawkins wrote:

Hello!

New prices all go into effect at 12:00 AM PST tonight! I've set any products that are about to increase in price to display their current prices as discounts, so they're easier to spot at a glance, and I'll be lurking for a while to make sure everything transitions smoothly if anyone has any questions!

Thanks! :)

I have a question. Did you need to train to be amazing, or do you put it down to natural talent?


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blog wrote:
Standalone Adventures $15.99–$17.99 now $19.99

Just saw a product with this price change. Now this is a real head scratcher.

Pathfinder Module: Academy of Secrets
Print Price $13.99 (not a sale price)
Old PDF price was $9.99
New PDF price $19.99

I found a similar situation with Tomb of the Iron Medusa.

The new PDF price is 43% more than the print price.


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It's effectively a sale on printed items. Presumably to clear old stock.

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