Paizo And Foundry Virtual Tabletop Content Partnership

Fumarole wrote:

Well that's unfortunate. I use a TV on my table with minis, so low resolution maps are unusable for me. I know I am not alone in this setup. Looks like I'll be creating my own maps (or look to the community at large) if I run Abomination Vaults.

Same for me ( our group is using a projector, so we need very well done map for it ).

There's already an AV map remake module from Narchy ( but IIRC, it's just the map. You'll have to deal with walls, tokens, etc... ).

The map module with my previous maps available already has walls and lighting. :)

Those maps are also 100px.

I'm here to say CONGRATULATIONS!! This is amazing :D

I notice that the preview video shows a number of community modules being used during the Foundry example sessions. Will the Beginner's Box module list which community modules are recommended/required for the content so that a GM can install them?

We aren't planning to ship with module dependencies at all, but there's a couple modules (dice so nice, fxmaster) we used to showcase some things in the video that a GM could do with minimal effort, such as the seagulls on the Otari backdrop.

Well that's unfortunate. I use a TV on my table with minis, so low resolution maps are unusable for me. I know I am not alone in this setup. Looks like I'll be creating my own maps (or look to the community at large) if I run Abomination Vaults.

I'm going to slightly walk back my previous post, as well as anything "TJSM" said about pixel sizes of the maps. The discussion of pixel grid on the later maps made us take a moment to reflect and review.

I'll say stay tuned for the release notification once we're closer to AV releasing, when we have a product page up. I'll try to remember to mention the pixels-per-gridsquare we use on the remakes there.

HumbleGamer wrote:

Fumarole wrote:

Well that's unfortunate. I use a TV on my table with minis, so low resolution maps are unusable for me. I know I am not alone in this setup. Looks like I'll be creating my own maps (or look to the community at large) if I run Abomination Vaults.

Same for me ( our group is using a projector, so we need very well done map for it ).

There's already an AV map remake module from Narchy ( but IIRC, it's just the map. You'll have to deal with walls, tokens, etc... ).

The map module with my previous maps available already has walls and lighting. :)

Those maps are also 100px.

Good job there, and thanks for the info!

Is there any info on whether Kingmaker Anniversary Edition (at least the 2e components) will be supported in foundry?

I’m a backer for the project and plan to run it after it launches. Id love to use Foundry as a tool to do so.

Is there any info on whether Kingmaker Anniversary Edition (at least the 2e components) will be supported in foundry?

I’m a backer for the project and plan to run it after it launches. Id love to use Foundry as a tool to do so.

At present, we've only announced the Beginner Box, Abomination Vaults, and Outlaws of Alkenstar. We're not quite ready to talk about what's next.

thaX wrote:

SO, what is foundry and how does it help at the table of the game as we gather in the Home/Game Store?

It's the go-to virtual tabletop for a lot of people playing Pathfinder 2E, including myself. It doesn't lend much to in-home gatherings/game stores, except for those that play on top of flat screen display tables.

So, like Roll 20. Got it.

Paizo where are you going with my wallet?

Ezekieru wrote:

thaX wrote:

SO, what is foundry and how does it help at the table of the game as we gather in the Home/Game Store?

It's the go-to virtual tabletop for a lot of people playing Pathfinder 2E, including myself. It doesn't lend much to in-home gatherings/game stores, except for those that play on top of flat screen display tables.

So, like Roll 20. Got it.

Yes, except it is actually good.

Roll 20 may be more immediate, but once you learn foundry you won't consider go back to r20 anymore.

I like Roll20 for the pick up and play aspect, which works great for organized play where people drop in and out. Foundry and Fantasy Grounds seem better suited to long term groups, which has been more my speed lately.

You guys are missing out on something awesome I haven't seen anyone mention.

Redone maps with Forgotten Adventures assets.

I have been a Patreon of theirs since the beginning and I can say any map done with their assets will be a real treat.

Just wanted to make sure they got mentioned as if you build maps or use dungeondraft they are an excellent choice to use!

This is great news, I'm glad Paizo realized they had a big group of people on Foundry that wanted official content and made the happen.

I absolutely luv PDFtoFoundry for pathfinder 2e. Now that PAIZO will collaborate to make official pathfinder 2e Foundry modules, I can already predict that my bank account is gonna hurt bigtime lol.

I have not really looked at Foundry that much (I use Fantasy Grounds Unity).
But we're thinking of trying something else for running an older AP using PF2 rules. How easy is it to add the maps and what not to Foundry?
Our plans are to run Second Darkness in PF2 and do a podcast of it.

I have not really looked at Foundry that much (I use Fantasy Grounds Unity).

But we're thinking of trying something else for running an older AP using PF2 rules. How easy is it to add the maps and what not to Foundry?
Our plans are to run Second Darkness in PF2 and do a podcast of it.

From my experience so far from the maps you get, it's somewhat tedious to align the grid as the grid wasn't made for VTTs, which means it can be something like 73.424px or something similarly annoying. It is not insurmountable but it requires a bit of work to set up.

Well that's unfortunate. I use a TV on my table with minis, so low resolution maps are unusable for me. I know I am not alone in this setup. Looks like I'll be creating my own maps (or look to the community at large) if I run Abomination Vaults.

100ppi is pretty crisp... but you can always just drop the image files into something like gigapixel, at that resolution they will be very easy to upscale.

I have not really looked at Foundry that much (I use Fantasy Grounds Unity).

But we're thinking of trying something else for running an older AP using PF2 rules. How easy is it to add the maps and what not to Foundry?
Our plans are to run Second Darkness in PF2 and do a podcast of it.

Harder than FGU if you are proficient, but if you dig for the right modules not hard.

Regarding FGU, there is a "universal module" extension (free on forge) that lets you activate pf1e modules in pf2e. I have used it to port pf1e adventures to pf2e in the past as all I had to do was update encounters with pf2e creatures, packages with pf2e loot and DCs with pf2e DCs. Everything else like maps and journals would stay in place.

Foundry has a learning curve, and isn't quite as automated as FG's system yet even with cool modules like pf2e workbench. But it is getting there slowly and some of the automation it has added recently is cool.

I switched because of frustrations with smitework's attitude towards performance issues.
It was worth losing a bit of extra time and to spend less worrying about players being taken out of the experience because the spellcaster would drop to 4-5fps whenever they would open their action tab at level 15.

I typically open/import any maps in GIMP, resize to 100 px per inch, and then save as webp. Takes me two minutes and "just works" in Foundry.

I have not really looked at Foundry that much (I use Fantasy Grounds Unity).

But we're thinking of trying something else for running an older AP using PF2 rules. How easy is it to add the maps and what not to Foundry?
Our plans are to run Second Darkness in PF2 and do a podcast of it.

100ppi is pretty crisp... but you can always just drop the image files into something like gigapixel, at that resolution they will be very easy to upscale.

I was going to recommend something very much like this, while I don't personally use gigapixel for my upscaling needs it looks like it does just about everything that the tool I leverage does and maybe even a bit more.

Upscaling services, software, and AI has come a long way in the last decade and there are plenty of OKAY free options and dozens of really VERY good paid services that can do this for you quickly.

Ched Greyfell wrote:

I have not really looked at Foundry that much (I use Fantasy Grounds Unity).

But we're thinking of trying something else for running an older AP using PF2 rules. How easy is it to add the maps and what not to Foundry?
Our plans are to run Second Darkness in PF2 and do a podcast of it.

From my experience so far from the maps you get, it's somewhat tedious to align the grid as the grid wasn't made for VTTs, which means it can be something like 73.424px or something similarly annoying. It is not insurmountable but it requires a bit of work to set up.

I use the module "Grid Scale Menu", it makes setting up/aligning the grid a breeze for maps in Foundry.

@Ched -- For maps in Foundry. My usual method.
XPDF/pdfimages.exe -j xxx.pdf c:\images\i
Then clean up that directory. Move maps to another folder and use another tool to merge the 2 layers together for the other images
Load the map to GIMP. Then measure ten squares to get an average of a square in pixels. Then, import original map (no modifications), so that it's the smaller original size file.
Create scene choose the file. Save. Edit the scene, go to subsection with scale and change scale to copy/paste from calculator. I use 100/avg or if a really large map, I'll ise 50/avg. If I use 50, I also change a value from 100 to 50. Save again. Re-edit and then click on the little icon in the scaling subsection to move the grid lines with arrow keys until they line up. Due to image compression from PDFs, I may not be able to get a perfect lineup, but it's generally close enough. I hate the 3d perspective maps from the non-AP adventures as those aren't made for VTTs in mind.

Also, side note, I try to avoid pre upscaling an image due to file size increasing and that adds time for web browsers to download the image.

I cannot understand why anyone is celebrating this news. My PDF Importer on Foundry was working great. This is why Foundry was the best way to play PF2. Now I'll have to buy everything again. There's going to be limitations placed on content that we'll be able to use, because you'll have to wait on Paizo conversions and buy everything again.
This is terrible news. I'm debating stopping the Beginner Box adventure I was running. What's the point of trying to get new players on board with this system now? Future adventures, bestiaries, and APs won't be available.
Are they coming after Archives of Nethys next so we have to buy everything on Nexus? Taking down Pathbuilder?
PF2 was better than D&D for VTT because we didn't have to go through sites like DND Beyond (which I think is terrible).
And I know you will say "you can still use PDF Importer for what you've already got." Yeah, for now. Once it's not compatible with the next forced update of Foundry, all that content is gone.

Amazing news. Foundry VTT is soooo great !

Next step: partnership with World Anvil :3

Oh, little question here. I've bought the physical beginner box. Is there any discount to purchase the foundry one ?

Does this signify the end of support for Fantasy Grounds?
And what about Pathfinder Nexus? Will that continue too?
I've been using FG for years and find it superior in many aspects (LOS and dynamic lighting), as well as the $$ invested in both Paizo and Fantasy Grounds. Now Paizo wants me to hand over my 2nd back-up wallet (Nexus is pay to use too....)
For those new, the Foundry VTT model is 'the same' for if you own, you get digital discount which is great especially if you are Paizo subscriber.

I cannot understand why anyone is celebrating this news. My PDF Importer on Foundry was working great. This is why Foundry was the best way to play PF2. Now I'll have to buy everything again. There's going to be limitations placed on content that we'll be able to use, because you'll have to wait on Paizo conversions and buy everything again.

This is terrible news. I'm debating stopping the Beginner Box adventure I was running. What's the point of trying to get new players on board with this system now? Future adventures, bestiaries, and APs won't be available.
Are they coming after Archives of Nethys next so we have to buy everything on Nexus? Taking down Pathbuilder?
PF2 was better than D&D for VTT because we didn't have to go through sites like DND Beyond (which I think is terrible).
And I know you will say "you can still use PDF Importer for what you've already got." Yeah, for now. Once it's not compatible with the next forced update of Foundry, all that content is gone.

I would advise reading the responses in this thread and the FAQ on Foundry’s website before complaining about things that have already been addressed. The PDF Importer was maintained by one person who had already decided to stop supporting it. Due to the precautions he took to make sure it was compliant with both Paizo and Foundry’s rules, he can’t open source it, so it can’t be maintained by someone else (and it really shouldn’t fall on one person to manually create full adventures for everyone else’s benefit anyways). Short of you or someone else deciding to make a new importer from scratch and manually supporting every new adventure, this partnership is the only way we will have pre-built Foundry content without doing it ourselves (which again, anyone is still free to do). Purchasing a module through this partnership gives you a free PDF, and you get a discount on it if you already have the PDF, so you don’t need to buy anything twice.

As for rules content such as Bestiaries, all of that is still included in the PF2 system on Foundry and is still maintained by the community. This is not going away.

All this partnership does is let you pay a little extra to not have to prep the adventure yourself. We aren’t losing the ability to do anything, the one guy that did all of it for us just doesn’t want to do it anymore.

I'm happy that Paizo is expanding its partnerships with VTT's outside of the much maligned (at least by me and my group) Roll20. I am concerned though that with a little more than a month to go, we have no pricing details.

I cannot understand why anyone is celebrating this news. My PDF Importer on Foundry was working great. This is why Foundry was the best way to play PF2. Now I'll have to buy everything again. There's going to be limitations placed on content that we'll be able to use, because you'll have to wait on Paizo conversions and buy everything again.

This is terrible news. I'm debating stopping the Beginner Box adventure I was running. What's the point of trying to get new players on board with this system now? Future adventures, bestiaries, and APs won't be available.
Are they coming after Archives of Nethys next so we have to buy everything on Nexus? Taking down Pathbuilder?
PF2 was better than D&D for VTT because we didn't have to go through sites like DND Beyond (which I think is terrible).
And I know you will say "you can still use PDF Importer for what you've already got." Yeah, for now. Once it's not compatible with the next forced update of Foundry, all that content is gone.

You're acting like Paizo sent a cease and desist to Fryguy, he just decided that it was way too much work to maintain it. You're not entitled to someone else's work.

All information is still in the core system, you only have to set up the maps yourself and add images to the tokens.

Harles wrote:

I cannot understand why anyone is celebrating this news. My PDF Importer on Foundry was working great. This is why Foundry was the best way to play PF2. Now I'll have to buy everything again. There's going to be limitations placed on content that we'll be able to use, because you'll have to wait on Paizo conversions and buy everything again.

This is terrible news. I'm debating stopping the Beginner Box adventure I was running. What's the point of trying to get new players on board with this system now? Future adventures, bestiaries, and APs won't be available.
Are they coming after Archives of Nethys next so we have to buy everything on Nexus? Taking down Pathbuilder?
PF2 was better than D&D for VTT because we didn't have to go through sites like DND Beyond (which I think is terrible).
And I know you will say "you can still use PDF Importer for what you've already got." Yeah, for now. Once it's not compatible with the next forced update of Foundry, all that content is gone.

I would advise reading the responses in this thread and the FAQ on Foundry’s website before complaining about things that have already been addressed. The PDF Importer was maintained by one person who had already decided to stop supporting it. Due to the precautions he took to make sure it was compliant with both Paizo and Foundry’s rules, he can’t open source it, so it can’t be maintained by someone else (and it really shouldn’t fall on one person to manually create full adventures for everyone else’s benefit anyways). Short of you or someone else deciding to make a new importer from scratch and manually supporting every new adventure, this partnership is the only way we will have pre-built Foundry content without doing it ourselves (which again, anyone is still free to do). Purchasing a module through this partnership gives you a free PDF, and you get a discount on it if you already have the PDF, so you don’t need to buy anything twice.

As for rules content such as Bestiaries, all of that is...

Yeah, I guess I should be thanking FryGuy for the work to put the content on there in the first place.

Are PFS/SFS, more bounty, etc adventures on the backlog, or primarily longer adventures?

Harles wrote:

I cannot understand why anyone is celebrating this news. My PDF Importer on Foundry was working great. This is why Foundry was the best way to play PF2. Now I'll have to buy everything again. There's going to be limitations placed on content that we'll be able to use, because you'll have to wait on Paizo conversions and buy everything again.

This is terrible news. I'm debating stopping the Beginner Box adventure I was running. What's the point of trying to get new players on board with this system now? Future adventures, bestiaries, and APs won't be available.
Are they coming after Archives of Nethys next so we have to buy everything on Nexus? Taking down Pathbuilder?
PF2 was better than D&D for VTT because we didn't have to go through sites like DND Beyond (which I think is terrible).
And I know you will say "you can still use PDF Importer for what you've already got." Yeah, for now. Once it's not compatible with the next forced update of Foundry, all that content is gone.

I would advise reading the responses in this thread and the FAQ on Foundry’s website before complaining about things that have already been addressed. The PDF Importer was maintained by one person who had already decided to stop supporting it. Due to the precautions he took to make sure it was compliant with both Paizo and Foundry’s rules, he can’t open source it, so it can’t be maintained by someone else (and it really shouldn’t fall on one person to manually create full adventures for everyone else’s benefit anyways). Short of you or someone else deciding to make a new importer from scratch and manually supporting every new adventure, this partnership is the only way we will have pre-built Foundry content without doing it ourselves (which again, anyone is still free to do). Purchasing a module through this partnership gives you a free PDF, and you get a discount on it if you already have the PDF, so you don’t need to buy anything twice.

As for rules content such as Bestiaries, all of that is...

To add on to this I believe Fry Guy has stated that the PDF to Foundry will always be upadated to work with the newest versions of Foundry and the PF2e system, he just won't be adding any new content. So if you already own one of the adventures that are covered by the importer you won't need to buy it again.

To qualify for the Abomination Vaults discount, do I need to buy the hardcover, or will all the softcovers suffice>

To qualify for the Abomination Vaults discount, do I need to buy the hardcover, or will all the softcovers suffice>

I'm definitely not an official source, but in my research today, I think I read that the content is coming from the new hardcover compilation, so that's the version you should get to have the Foundry discount.

Are PFS/SFS, more bounty, etc adventures on the backlog, or primarily longer adventures?

I think most (if not all) of these are on PDF to Foundry. So feel free to use that until they are officially released.

To qualify for the Abomination Vaults discount, do I need to buy the hardcover, or will all the softcovers suffice>

You need to own the PDF for the AP, physical book ownership does nothing to prove you already own the PDF nor eliminate the PDF purchase cost component that is baked into the Foundry product. In other words, if you can prove you own the PDF on the Paizo store you will only be paying for the data that Foundry made and shouldn't have to pay for the PDF as part of that purchase again.

Adam Jung wrote:

To qualify for the Abomination Vaults discount, do I need to buy the hardcover, or will all the softcovers suffice>

You need to own the PDF for the AP, physical book ownership does nothing to prove you already own the PDF nor eliminate the PDF purchase cost component that is baked into the Foundry product. In other words, if you can prove you own the PDF on the Paizo store you will only be paying for the data that Foundry made and shouldn't have to pay for the PDF as part of that purchase again.

Yeah, sorry, thought that was assumed.

Yeah, sorry, thought that was assumed.

Yep, just trying to cover all bases, no need to apologize! I know many people (have been one myself at times when money wasn't so tight) who prefer buying and owning the physical books and eschew PDFs altogether in support of a local game store.

Last day to sign up for Beginner's Box Day as a player! I'm sure we don't have too many new players here but nonetheless.

Well that's unfortunate. I use a TV on my table with minis, so low resolution maps are unusable for me. I know I am not alone in this setup. Looks like I'll be creating my own maps (or look to the community at large) if I run Abomination Vaults.

What dpi would be "usable"? Like, the minimum. Not being facetious, just curious.

I aim for 300 dpi, basically a resolution that is suitable for print.

Fumarole wrote:

Well that's unfortunate. I use a TV on my table with minis, so low resolution maps are unusable for me. I know I am not alone in this setup. Looks like I'll be creating my own maps (or look to the community at large) if I run Abomination Vaults.

What dpi would be "usable"? Like, the minimum. Not being facetious, just curious.

The general rule of thumb is 300 for print and 72 for digital screens.

Happy to hear about this partnership. Foundry is really cool.

This all looks good especially since foundry as opposed to roll20 is buy once and own instead of a subscription. I hate the subscription model that software has gone too recently. I also like foundries policy that multiple users can share a GM account as long as only one user is online at a time. I am gonna link an account to mine because I am subbed to all the 2E lines and my friend and I are gonna split the cost of the software and any modules they want me to run for them.

Is there intent to hook Nexus and Foundry (well, and Roll20 and other VTTs) kind of like DnDBeyond and Roll20 with Beyond20?

To qualify for the Abomination Vaults discount, do I need to buy the hardcover, or will all the softcovers suffice>

It was confirmed that you need the hardcover pdf and that the three softcover pdfs won't count for the discount.

Ok, it's the 16th. Where can I buy it? I wants it! I wants it my precious! Where is it? Where? WHERE????

Ok, it's the 16th. Where can I buy it? I wants it! I wants it my precious! Where is it? Where? WHERE????

Yeah, patience is a highly overrated virtue in my experience. Especially for those of us further east, waiting for the Americans to wake up!!!!

mistamichal wrote:

Ok, it's the 16th. Where can I buy it? I wants it! I wants it my precious! Where is it? Where? WHERE????

Yeah, patience is a highly overrated virtue in my experience. Especially for those of us further east, waiting for the Americans to wake up!!!!

I'm here in these states and I was waiting last night when the first comment asked, took a 5 hour sleep and I'm STILL not seeing where I can buy it

For someone who loves Pathfinder but has little extra time and basic computer skills this is great. The easier it is to pick up and play on a VTT the better. I wasn't sure about jumping into 2nd edition until now.