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Imagine a world where the PF2 system for Foundry was never allowed to exist in its current state because the CUP didn't exist.

I probably would have bounced of the system if I never could have used PF2easy to quickly look up AP NPCs during my in-person sessions (Nethys still doesn't have all AP content btw).

Definitely wouldn't run a bunch of adventures on Foundry if I had to manually input all IP content myself for everything.

Very sad that Paizo is pulling up the ladder after fan projects have helped building the community and made the game accessible to get into and run.

As for the why of it, there are many reasons, but the primary one is that we do not want any new content using our IP to be associated with the OGL. We have seen what can happen when the fate of our games (and to a lesser extent settings) and therefore our livelihoods are inextricably linked to another company's IP. Now that we have a complete game (comprised of the four Remaster core books) for Pathfinder Second Edition, and a complete game coming next year for Starfinder Second Edition, which we fully own, it is not in the best interest of our brands to continue entangling our IP with the OGL.

If there are creators who want to keep doing so, they can use the OGL for their own releases the same as they always could, just not in a product or on a platform that uses our non-OGL IP.

Aren't the biggest pathfinder sites given special permission to mix though? Archives of Nethys, Demiplane and Foundry is allowed to do so with a special license and probably generate a ton more traffic than any of the small sites you are nuking that used the CUP.

Just wondering if the recently announced "Spore War" high level AP (also a 3 part adventure path I believe) would be a good continuation (like would the starting level of Spore War line up with the ending lvl of Wardens of the Wildwood).

Characters end book 2 of Wardens of Wildwood at level 11 which is the same level as Spore War.

So running both adventure paths would likely end up removing one of the books (either book 3 of wardens or book 1 of spore war) or making some kind of abridged version for the story.

Clarifications are often a judgement call based on the targeted audience; a lot of examples of where things can get tricky can be found in the CRB and its updates. At the most basic level, Attack of Opportunity has the line "This Strike doesn't count toward your multiple attack penalty, and your multiple attack penalty doesn't apply to this Strike."

That's redundant text. It's there so that a new player doesn't need to go reading the entire rulebook to know that that's true of all attacks you make outside of your turn. For a new player, that is almost always a useful reminder. But divorced from the context of the book and presentation, you'll see people start arguing whether it implies that it's normally not true of things that don't also include that redundant clarification.

A bit unrelated to the thread but I was curious about this, because there is a general rule about MAP outside your turn but there are also edgecases where you can use reactions on your own turn. As an example a fighter with Reactive Strike can use it against a spellcaster who cast Zephyr Slip vs the fighter, with this text it makes it seem like Reactive Strike will never, ever have MAP while something like Cleave or Opportune Backstab would if used in the same scenario.

I didn’t see anything on the PaizoCon schedule to talk about Player Core 2, so I’m guessing June as well. I’m just excited for this book…

On the schedule there is a posting on Saturday for Pathfinder Project Remaster.

No Stolen Fate in the discounts? Would go great with the Harrow Deck ;)

If anybody finds such a system, please also tell Metacritic and Steam, where malicious review bombing is way too common.

I think unfortunately that the issue of troll reviews are very amplified because there are so few reviews, if it was much easier to review stuff then a single troll would be a drop in the ocean I reckon. I've tried to review stuff in the past but you really lose the motivation writing a long review and then the site just deletes it and I lose all progress.

What? seriously? A AAA videogame, 6 years in development, employing an army of developers is $70 and this is $120?

A AAA game probably has a much larger audience than a foundry module for PF2e :)

3) My main confusion is that isn't this kinda like Sudden Bolt? (level 2 single target reflex save with 4d12 damage)

Sudden Bolt is a spell from an AP, AP options are notoriously kind of jank and out of tune with the balance of the game. Treating AP options as they don't exist outside of the AP they're in will make your game a much saner place lest you invite the various unbalanced options that exist in them.

You just shouldn't have a one-handed parry weapon that deals more than a d4 without it being advanced regardless of the other traits in the load-out since that's a direct vector for power creep that invalidates Core Rulebook options, something the design team tries really hard not to have happen.

Did you change your mind regarding this or is the Scizore a mistake?

Familiars are basically a ribbon feature as is... and I'm also not sure baseline cackle does much for them either. One action once per combat for a focus point is... idk, kind of lame? Useful in the strictest sense but a little niche and not very flavorful.

IMO any attempt to fix the witch or strengthen its identity should focus on hexes. Hex cantrips need to be more compelling and there should probably be room for more hex cantrips too.

Yeah, if all hexes were closer to the mosquito witch one it would feel a lot more fun imo. Right now hexes are in a spot where a lot of them just feel lackluster and not very impactful. Something like Nudge Fate not even working on crits just feels punitive.

It says these are part of the core rulebook subscription. Is there any chance that those of us who already own the core rulebooks up to this date can opt-out of that?

I am interested in core rules. I'm not interested in core rule reprints.

Pathfinder Second Edition Remaster books will be included in ongoing Pathfinder Rulebooks subscriptions. We are currently working on a method whereby existing subscribers will have the opportunity to “opt out” of these volumes if they wish and will provide additional details as we get closer to the release of the first two volumes.

Cori Marie wrote:

Here

Thank you! :)

(I find the new website difficult to navigate. The older version had a much easier to find/read page overview of all the APs and smoother transitions from one AP listing to another via the numerical sequence. This new website keeps dumping me back on a very colourful PF2 summary page - which doesn't include the latest ones in the pipeline.)

I think in this case it's not the fault of the website, it's not published on the website yet but the URL is up. I imagine the proper page for it will come up later today.

Unicore wrote:

Acid is a common damage type that wrecks armor. Armor that is immune to acid damage is pretty useful.

Yes and no. Great against oozes and the like, but corrosive does jack all against most armor thanks to hardness.

Take your typical metal armor for example. With hardness 9, you'll deal an average of 1.5 damage per critical. With a broken threshold of 18, you'll need an average of 12 critical hits just to get the armor past it's broken threshold.

Even the greater version will require so many critical hits, that the target will most certainly die before their armor wears out. Note that this is largely still true even if you believe the acid ignores the hardness.

Versus leather though it performs much better, 6.5/17 per crit on average vs 8hp.

I've seen a greater corrosive rune completely destroy the armor in one hit, removing the AC bonus entirely and also getting the bonus to saves as well removed.

What is preventing someone from using "Quick Spring" 3 times per turn, and thus just doubling their speed?

There is no use limit on Tumble Through to begin with. And this feat just allows you to stride at double speed.
"When you Tumble Through, you Stride up to twice your Speed."

Seems to be quite a few balance goofs in this book, PFS did ban a lot of options because of this over here

Thaumaturge does have some inherent antisynergy with dual wielding because every dual wield feat Ive seen combines the attacks for weaknesses.

Acknowledge Fan is missing incapacitation. I can hardly imagine that a 1 action ability with no frequency ability inflicts stunned 1 on success, stunned 2 on failure and paralyze on crit fail.

Even without a frequency limit I'd say it is an extremely strong ability as you can spam it on lower level enemies.

The attack does like 1d4+4, so a crit is between 10-16 damage, it can take out a squishy caster if you are unlucky (probably sitting on something like 15-16 hp) but sometimes the dice are hot for the enemy. The woes of low levels ^^

In my experience the GM in the majority of tables does more work than all the players combined who in a lot of cases only shows up to the table to play and then never thinks about it again until the next session shows up. In a lot of cases the GM also has a financial burden that is not on the players.

While this work is fun it is ultimately work and demanding someone to do this for strangers feels somewhat entitled to me.

I've never done any paid GMing and I'll stick to my friend groups, I can't grudge anyone wanting to be compensated for their time they dedicate to strangers.

Just GM for your friends if you don't like it ^^

Nelzy wrote:

Gortle wrote:

Here is the comment from Mark about it

Basically scale it at half the rate.

Feels like he have forgoten about that errata, since they have released several other Erratas since then

erratas for Secrets of Magic? I was under the impression they don't release erratas until they release a new printing for a book

They released a blog a few weeks ago saying that they changed the errata proccess. They're gonna do them twice a year now, once in spring and once in fall.

just hope for writer actually know what they are doing

writer of fist of ruby phoenix does seem like they know a lot about japan culture

never expect hyakkiyakou and seiya soiya end up in ap

James Case who wrote King of the Mountain is indeed listed in the writers' credit for the upcoming Tian Xia books.

Also to make it so Bolan seem much more like the PCs, to really drive the point that he is also a Gatewalker, I gave him deviant backlashes, these are just copied from the existing ones but I just wanted something:

Minor: Bolan takes 2 damage as his own staff grows spikes
Moderate: Bolan is clumsy 1 and enfeebled 1 for 1 minute as his clothing impedes him.
Major: All plant-based material grows thorns and spikes, everyone within 30 ft must make a basic reflex save for 2d6 damage, Bolan automatically takes this damage without a save.

I think if players want other base DA powers they are supposed to use their feats, with awakenings given for free at story moments.

I've been pacing the dream invasions about 1 each level so far, so a couple of nights rest between each dream.

Though that would be explicitly against the rules as you need to wield an item to activate it which you don't do with free-hand weapons if the hand is occupied.

In general simple/martial/advanced is a system that serves too many masters imo.

It wants to both invoke some sense of realism but also a game balance tiering system at the same time.

The issue though is that "is easy to use" doesn’t have a negative causation with "how effective it is".

It should probably be noted that, RAW, you can override a bad Devise roll with True Strike, assuming you have a way to cast it and still attack that turn (because they're both Fortune effects you choose which applies).

I've never really found that a compelling argument, Hero Points themselves say:

Spend 1 Hero Point to reroll a check. You must use the second result. This is a fortune effect (which means you can't use more than 1 Hero Point on a check).

If it was possible to add another fortune effect to a fortune effect to choose which one you wanted, it would be possible to use multiple hero points and choose which applies but the rules say that because it is a fortune effect you can't use more than 1 of them.

Do I understand correctly that both Lost Omens Tian Xia books will release in 2024, and we still know nothing about autumn Lost Omens drop?

I can only speculate but given that there are two books here they might drop early 2024 instead of late 2023 because of the additional development time due to the scope.

I'm gonna make a prediction we're getting playable tsukumogami.

Firstly there is some on the cover of the Character Guide, secondly Luis jokingly mentioned that they were going to announce a playable potion ancestry today which makes a lot of sense since they're living objects.

Some of the old classics like bespoke Simple minus for wizards or bespoke simple + a few for rogues and bards (or druids balancing around only nonmetal options which are weaker in terms of shields and restrict your high AC armor options), are a little odd. It might have been better to just have wizards and bards go simple, rogues go martial, and druids use metal, from a streamlining gameplay perspective. But sometimes people value the tradition. Designers tend to be the ones who are willing to reexamine tradition and propose radical new ideas, so I'd definitely propose it again!

Link

I hope Paizo are willing to reexamine tradition on this :)

I saw bombs being mentioned and all I can say is "yes, please". Paizo love using swarms in early level APs and rogues can do nothing to them except grab a coffee and wait for the others to deal with it. Precision Immunity is a whole other issue but being able to use bombs would actually make it so rogues can participate.

Interesting that the AP page didn't go up? Maybe later tonight or tomorrow perhaps

Activate (reaction) envision; Frequency once per hour; Trigger You roll a critical success on an attack roll with a witch spell, or your target rolls a critical failure on its saving throw against a witch spell or hex you cast; Effect The thing in the jar becomes more energetic-glowing, dancing, rapping on the glass, or some other action appropiate to its appearance. It encourages you until the start of your next turn, granting you and your familiar a +1 status bonus to AC and saving throws and a +2 status bonus against mental effects.

Treasure Vault updated this trait:

tethered (weapon trait) This weapon is attached to a length of rope or chain that allows you to retrieve it after it has left your hand. If you have a free hand (including if you’ve just thrown a two-handed tethered weapon and have a hand holding nothing but the weapon’s tether), you can use an Interact action to pull the weapon back into your grasp after you have thrown it as a ranged attack or after it has been disarmed (unless it is being held by another creature).

Well, it will depend on the build and the situation a bit. But just getting twin takedown is a great option for getting some damage in when your target is sufficiently debuffed.

If you want to be really annoying your turn could look something like spamming trips and grapples to completely lock down the target (works best if they don't have high saves in either).

My favourite animal companion is something like the horse that just moves you around at a great speed but something like a rhino could be of nice help since it can move you and have a nice support effect at the same time.

It is worth noting that ranger has some innate action loss with Hunt Prey so they aren't as flexible as monk in that department.

There the weapon trait training. But I wasn't able to find a single weapon with that trait. Is it something that was cut or some kind of upcoming weapon?

The combat lure on page 25 has that trait.

I ran the tamagyrs and my party took them down with no issue at all, even when the ones with Attack of Opportunity went for the backline.

I second that the shillelagh users + complex hazard was a much scarier encounter, the hazard hits very hard and I was lucky the shillelagh druids missed a lot of their attacks.

It's all very cool so far though and Bolan just ran away on the zipline

Trying to move on the topic from yet another discussion that is only bickering about reviews, I am absolutely in love with the organization of this AP.

The plot summaries, the plot beats, advice for Investigators, etc. Makes it even easier to run the game and I'd love for this to be a trend.

I guess this means if you Delay while sustaining a spell you would automatically lose it?

I love 10 level APs because playing for several years without anyone getting a major life change has proven to be hard. And I also love the high level stuff, I think the game really hits its strides after level 7 so I think a 5-15 would also satisfy me needs though I think the 11-20s are great.

YuriP wrote:

The psychic loose is way worse because it's looses way more spellslots (half of each level).

Both Psychic and Summoner lose 50% of all of their spell slots.

Not sure why one is worse than the other.

The summoner has a 75% chance of regaining 25% of all their spell slots (and top two spell levels at that) while the psychic only regains 16.7% percent of their top 3 spell slots and even less of their total amount.

Soractus Ex-Alkaeus wrote:

It actually works very well with Summoner once you get past level 2; you only ever 'lose' 2 slots total, (versus as many as 10 eventually for other casters), and you get back .75 slots per combat on average (75% chance every time you surge, etc. etc.)

You can only recover expanded spell slots with Wellspring Mage. So you lose all your spell slots to get one spell per fight. It's definitely not good.

Overall, Wellspring Mage is better on a Sorcerer. And even there it's far from incredible.

You can't count the expended spell slot as lost due to this archetype, presumably you got usage out of it instead of just wasting it.

I do agree that I really, really wish you got a temporary slot instead of recovering a spell slot temporarily. Makes it so much more clunky.

Yes, please give Poisoner a feat to get DC = Class DC. Not only do you get lower level poisons with worse effects than normal (fair for an archetype) but their DCs area also balanced for that lower level giving you a quadratic negative scaling and just makes them completely unusable imo.

Persistent damage will do an average of 1.7x damage if the target lives for 2 turns and 2.2x damage if the target lives for 3 turns.

Two turns I feel is not super unreasonable if the enemy is a bit tougher and three turns vs bosses is also pretty reasonable in my opinion.

I usually do a rule of thumb of 1x vs weak targets and 2x vs tougher targets.

Especially as you approach higher levels and HP strts to bloat a lot. A level 15 barbarian will do 25% of a level 13 enemy's hp in two strikes.

Onkonk wrote:

If you interpret Hideous Laughter as instantly taking out anyone in water, then this item is pretty much inline with Aqueous Orb.

Also of note, casters are probably best equipped to deal with suffocation as they can cast Air Bubble as a reaction.

A monk can do this solo at level 11+. Open with a haste wand or spell turn 1, haste strike + mask of uncanny breath (new item) reaction into suffocation wand round 2. As a 1/day death sentence, it's fairly effective. All you need is druid archetype casting. None of this requires a save at any point so it's pretty easy to pull off, and if you miss the hasted attack, you still have the entire rest of your turn as normal and can keep trying on subsequent rounds so there's little opportunity cost.

The mask is definitely an uncanny item =^)

Honestly without doing any cheese just seems kinda nuts to me? A -6 to AC to the next person who attacks the target? Crazy

If you interpret Hideous Laughter as instantly taking out anyone in water, then this item is pretty much inline with Aqueous Orb.

Also of note, casters are probably best equipped to deal with suffocation as they can cast Air Bubble as a reaction.

capacity already allow that

or just use air repeater

Right, I was being imprecise, I use a double-barrled weapon which is very important for Magus since it lets me shoot twice before reloading. The Air Repeater is probably better but the flavor of it is humiliating to use imo. Besides, nice having fatal when you use True Strike all the time.

CaffeinatedNinja wrote:

25speedforseaweedleshy wrote:

with spellstriker staf melee magus have another power boost

paizo finally loosen the grip on shifting staff

starlit span are still the best

I mean, I think it is still unclear if shifting it lets you use it as a staff?

Also, assume it does. If you aren't Twisted Tree, you are basically giving up any weapon rune but shifting to use your shifted staff. Staff spells aren't so useful that I am likely to give up multipe damage runes.

Kind of the problem with elemental damage runes, they play a huge part in weapon power and specific magic weapons tend to forget they exist, with a few exceptions.

Nothing prevents a staff from having a shifting rune inherently. For a long time I had a shifting rune on a staff that I shifted into a gauntlet. Eventually staves were errataed to be Speific Magic Weapons, which cannot hold property runes as standard.

Its nice that a shifting rune on a staff again. Just the utility of having a staff swap into a gaunlet to free up a hand is nice.

I am playing a gun magus and it is gonna be real nice to be able to reload without having to drop my staff to the ground.

non-metal armors: I'm surprised here weren't any any with max dex 0 or +1, meaning your druid needs a least a 14 dex. This means that the stats you need haven't changed over the old sets of armor with only traits being possible differences. They do add some style though.

Stone material mentions it can replace metal in chain and composite armor and bone says it can be used instead of wood and metal.

Onkonk wrote:

There is a Spellstriker Staff which is a spellcasting staff that comes with a shifting rune on it as well as an ability to do damage in a 5ft emanation when you miss a spellstrike.

Does it have certain spells on it?

Yeah, a few of the Magus classics, including True Strike.

There is a Spellstriker Staff which is a spellcasting staff that comes with a shifting rune on it as well as an ability to do damage in a 5ft emanation when you miss a spellstrike.