Save the Date for a New Pathfinder Class Playtest!

Monday, August 23, 2021

With the end of summer comes a new Pathfinder Playtest!

Immediately after Gen Con, we’ll be releasing a playtest with two new classes for you to build characters with, play at your tables, and share feedback on. The playtest will run from September 20th to October 26th.

A general looks over a scale model of the battlefield, determining the best place to deploy her troops.

We wanted to share the news a bit ahead of time so you can assemble your groups and plan some games. If you’re a member of our organized play community, you can earn credit for a Pathfinder Society character at the same time that you playtest one of the new classes, using the normal Pathfinder Society rules for class playtests

Are you interested in helping test and shape the newest Pathfinder classes, but you need help finding a group or game? The Paizo Events Discord server, where our Gen Con Online events will be taking place, will have a channel for you to look for other gamers to playtest with. You can also check out warhorn.net or our VTT partners (Roll20, Fantasy Grounds, or Astral) for games. If you need a pre-made adventure, try playing a Pathfinder Society scenario or one or more Pathfinder Bounties!

Tune in to our Gen Con 2021 streams for more information on the new classes (and the book they’ll be appearing in), and be the first to play them right after the convention! We hope to see you there!

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Hype!

Scarab Sages

Let the speculation begin. Based on the picture, maybe some kind of warlord or military leader? Looking forward to hearing more.

Wayfinders

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Inquistor.

Dark Archive

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JohannVonUlm wrote:
Let the speculation begin. Based on the picture, maybe some kind of warlord or military leader? Looking forward to hearing more.

They used that picture last playtest announcement. It likely means nothing.

Also, WOOT!

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Is it...the gamesmaster?

Scarab Sages

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Hopefully the Cavalier archetype becomes a class of its own.


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JohannVonUlm wrote:
Let the speculation begin. Based on the picture, maybe some kind of warlord or military leader? Looking forward to hearing more.

I believe they used the same image for the last playtest.


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Please be a Warlord/Tactician type of class. Or Inquisitor. Or Slayer. Or some occult class :) I am easy to satisfy it seems.


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Hoping for pretty much any mix of Inquisitor, Psychic, Kineticist, and Occultist. Fingers crossed!

(It feels like every character I try and make ends up wanting to be an Inquisitor or a Psychic; it’s a real problem!)


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Just remember that the art don't mean much, the same one was used last time with gunslinger and inventor.


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Do any of y'all know what the name of the book they'll be published in it at least have a guess at as well?


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Book of the Dead coming. Official Necromancer pet class?

One can dream.


Jason Tuttle wrote:
Do any of y'all know what the name of the book they'll be published in it at least have a guess at as well?

The book will be announced at Gen Con.

Yoshua wrote:

Book of the Dead coming. Official Necromancer pet class?

One can dream.

This will be for a new book. Book of the Dead is primarily a Bestiary with a couple Ancestries in it, by all accounts; I wouldn’t expect a ton of player options.


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It could be anything. The previous one was both a new class and a reinvented class from PF1.

I'm suspecting that we might see a class from the Occult Adventures book (the Kineticist would be my guess), as well as a wholly different class. The big question is what sort of niche are we missing that we can expect this new class to fill.


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Yoshua wrote:

Book of the Dead coming. Official Necromancer pet class?

One can dream.

I think it is a playtest for next year's august release. It might be too late to playtest stuff to be shipped in march.


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I can feel the excitement already, unless that's my laptop overheating.

Horizon Hunters

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We got secrets of magic, guns and gears, there is room for a secrets of combat and I would love to see a warlord and a ninja


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I KNEW IT!

Horizon Hunters

Samurai and ninja i guess (Let me dream)

*Just imagine ninjutsu focus spells system oh my..!

Dataphiles

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Occultist and Kineticist?


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So far, these playtests have fit a mold: two classes for a themed book. The book on magic gave us Magus and Summoner, while a book on tech gave us Gunslinger and Inventor. I have to assume this pattern will hold true, so let’s let that shape the theorycrafting!

-Occult book with Occultist and Psychic. Occult magic feels like the least-loved of the four traditions so far in terms of player options, and I think these are guaranteed to be pretty popular.
-Nature/primal book with Kineticist and Shifter. It seems like everyone wants Kineticist back, and the Shifter deserves a second shot at life. This book could also have wilderness exploration rules in it.
-Divine book with Inquisitor and either a retooled Medium or a new class. This is the pitch I’m least clear on, but I dearly want Inquisitor back.
-Martial book with Warlord/Marshal/Commander and probably something else new? There’s a lot of demand for a Warlord-style class, and martials always love having more options. This could be a place for mass combat rules as well.

I also do think there’s a slim chance it’s a genre book, rather than a setting element, because I can see a horror supplement with Inquisitor (for monster-hunting) and Occultist (for delving into terrible secrets) as the new classes.

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Darksol the Painbringer wrote:
It could be anything.

Even a boat(swain). You know how much we've wanted one of those. We'll take the mystery class!


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Calling it now, this time the picture is ACTUALLY relevant, and it's totally Warlord.


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There's currently no dedicated, prepared occult caster, so my money is on the Occultist.


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I think Inquisitor + Occultist could be a neat combo. I’d say make them bounded spell casters… plus, Divine and Occult could be expanded… fit them in a book on spirits, gods and mystery with additional rules such as being a demigod, having a ghost animal companion, conducting seances and the like. A nice pairing to the Book of the Dead. Throw in another Champion Tenet set and that’s a sell…

Based on what Jason said on the GCP interview, I think the Kineticist is too far away.

Would love a Warlord at some point. There could be a lot of potential for it in addition to what the Marshal already does


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keftiu wrote:

So far, these playtests have fit a mold: two classes for a themed book. The book on magic gave us Magus and Summoner, while a book on tech gave us Gunslinger and Inventor. I have to assume this pattern will hold true, so let’s let that shape the theorycrafting!

-Occult book with Occultist and Psychic. Occult magic feels like the least-loved of the four traditions so far in terms of player options, and I think these are guaranteed to be pretty popular.
-Nature/primal book with Kineticist and Shifter. It seems like everyone wants Kineticist back, and the Shifter deserves a second shot at life. This book could also have wilderness exploration rules in it.
-Divine book with Inquisitor and either a retooled Medium or a new class. This is the pitch I’m least clear on, but I dearly want Inquisitor back.
-Martial book with Warlord/Marshal/Commander and probably something else new? There’s a lot of demand for a Warlord-style class, and martials always love having more options. This could be a place for mass combat rules as well.

I also do think there’s a slim chance it’s a genre book, rather than a setting element, because I can see a horror supplement with Inquisitor (for monster-hunting) and Occultist (for delving into terrible secrets) as the new classes.

I think you're on the right track! Personally, crossing my fingers for some divine stuff, though with the Book of the Dead coming out in the intervening, it might not be.

My follow-up hope is the primal idea. Though I still hope a shifter, if it's coming, is not stuck being primal.

Dark Archive

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So are the playtest classes going to be fully revealed in just under 2 weeks and Sep 30th is the start of the official playtest or....?


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blog wrote:
Tune in to our Gen Con 2021 streams for more information on the new classes (and the book they’ll be appearing in), and be the first to play them in just under 2 weeks! We hope to see you there!

I think this blog when live three weeks early, or needs some editing. :-)

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I'll put my gold pieces on whatever Animated paper says! He got it right last time!


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coriolis wrote:
There's currently no dedicated, prepared occult caster, so my money is on the Occultist.

But, the Occultist was nowhere close to a full caster. I suppose they could make them a full caster like the Bard, but I feel that the new tiered casting from Magus and Summoner makes more sense. Then again, the Psychic definitely wouldn't be a prepared caster...

I really hope the book is psychic casting and other stuff from Occult Adventures. I can see a psychic casting archetype similar to the Arcanist style casting archetype introduced in SoM.


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I'd personally love to have the mesmerist but that's JUST ME. I'm going to be hype for whatever they announce.

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If the picture is relevant the one of classes is the Model Builder.


Memyselfishness wrote:
coriolis wrote:
There's currently no dedicated, prepared occult caster, so my money is on the Occultist.

But, the Occultist was nowhere close to a full caster. I suppose they could make them a full caster like the Bard, but I feel that the new tiered casting from Magus and Summoner makes more sense. Then again, the Psychic definitely wouldn't be a prepared caster...

I really hope the book is psychic casting and other stuff from Occult Adventures. I can see a psychic casting archetype similar to the Arcanist style casting archetype introduced in SoM.

I expect Inquisitor and Occultist to both be wave casters when we see them.


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Donald wrote:
If the picture is relevant the one of classes is the Model Builder.

The overpriced miniatures class CONFIRMED!


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Fingers crossed I finally get to play a Mesmerist type character in 2e. One of my favorite classes


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blog wrote:
Tune in to our Gen Con 2021 streams for more information on the new classes (and the book they’ll be appearing in), and be the first to play them in just under 2 weeks! We hope to see you there!
I think this blog when live three weeks early, or needs some editing. :-)

Yeah, it's maybe same date with adventure about Truename

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My pie-in-the-sky hope is the Occultist, renamed Antiquarian, as a martial with pick-a-tradition bound/wave casting in the form of the following subclasses:

Occult tradition - original Occultist
Arcane tradition - Silksworn
Primal tradition - Psychodermist
Divine tradition - Reliquarian

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I'm hoping for Kineticist and another occult class.

But I'm game for anything, including something brand new.

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keftiu wrote:

This book could also have wilderness exploration rules in it.

This could be a place for mass combat rules as well.

I was under the impression these were going to be in the Kingmaker rerelease.

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Finally it's the Confectioner's time to shine


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I think as the Lost Omens Gods and Magic has already come out the next announced book will be primal based, with more wilderness and snares to toy with. Going off this...

I would dearly love a FF Blue Mage style Shifter (with different origins so primal is separate to arcane and alchemical accident, etc). And in fact, maybe that is more what they had in mind with synthesist summoners? As they share nearly the same design space don't they?

I think the only other logical 2nd class would be the kineticist, but I'm picturing more feat lines and powers rather than any actual spells (or casting like the summoner/magus), maybe even elemental skill feats?

Horizon Hunters

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I really enjoyed the Inventor playtest, so if it's a brand new class on the way I'M IN!


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Runnetib wrote:
keftiu wrote:

This book could also have wilderness exploration rules in it.

This could be a place for mass combat rules as well.

I was under the impression these were going to be in the Kingmaker rerelease.

They’ve said that those systems are pretty tightly bound to Kingmaker’s specific setting and story, and so there’s plenty of room for a fuller, more-generic expansion.


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I reckon it's going to do to Ultimate Combat what Secrets of Magic did to Ultimate Magic. It's probably the one major absence from the current line up.


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Hoping for a book focused on Occultism. With Spirits having closer ties to occultism I'd like to see the Shaman class rebranded as a spirit binder with occult casting.


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I noticed Zova made a surprise appearance in one of the illustrations for the Mwangi Expanse book - is the Shifter getting another chance, perhaps?

Personally, I'd love some kind of "Primal Power" book with the Shifter & Kineticist, focusing on elemental and natural stuff.

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How about a book about Politics, Trade, and Thievery? Expand upon Rogues as Spys and Merchant types. I only think of that because there's not much on Aspis Consortium, but they're mentioned all the time. Even if it's not, that would still be fun for a future tome.


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Ashanderai wrote:
I KNEW IT!

oh yes me too i really want it a equivalent of martial maneuvre like tome of battle version pathfinder 2.0


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Woo hoo!

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I'm very excited to talk more about these classes, and the book they come in, next month~

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