What about Mighty, Demon-possessed(Balor)Human 10 Eldritch Godling // Wildblooded Sage 5/ Magus 5?
I'm just throwing out concepts, I would like the fluff of the dual personality and possessed kid going on, but I'm open to help on the mechanics of the thing.
Just a warning.
We have about three dual personalities going on right now.(one triple)
The newest person before you wanted the same and was advised against so for said reason.
WTF ok will keep thinking of something else. Although I would point out that while it appears Billy has a dual personality, he actually is two beings Kain is a seperate spiritual entity. Either way I shall continue to think.
What about Mighty, Demon-possessed(Balor)Human 10 Eldritch Godling // Wildblooded Sage 5/ Magus 5?
I'm just throwing out concepts, I would like the fluff of the dual personality and possessed kid going on, but I'm open to help on the mechanics of the thing.
Second bit of advice--
Avoid the crunch (your stats aspect) first.
Sort out the story you want.
Cause, so far, no offense, seems like you want certain stats, and are wrapping the class behind it. :)
Plus what Magic said. :)
Sounds like you're fixated on the possessed aspect. :) Is it due to the duality of personalities you want?
Also, advice: If you want to be a guy possessed by a demon, I'll bet that Damiani will sniff you out pretty quickly, because he's a redeemed demon.
While that may be true, I guess, I was going for a conduit of arcane power!!!
But I suppose you are right. If I'm thinking of a character I would like to play, I still like the idea of starting young. As for a story, I guess I would either have to read the 60,000+ posts or at least have someone recap the recent developments. I mean, its a school right? So classes and training and missions X-men style?
Ok then, Billy's personality and history. Tell me if you already have this.(Seriously) Something along the lines of the kid version of Afro samurai, a boy driven to become the best swordsman to ever live, motivated by the need to avenge his family's deaths and the deaths of everyone in his village at ,(oh idea)the hands of a clan of super powerful Ninjas(with the demon-possed template:D!) Called the Blacksoul Clan.
He will be foward, and proud, tough and challenging. Billy dislikes when people treat him as a little kid or consider him helpless.
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The mighty template, as well as advanced, is not something I'd like in the game. At least not on characters, be they PC or NPC.
Also, in case this comes up, no Mythic rules or Advanced Class Guide stuff. We don't need the first and the second is probably going to have to wait until it's either online for Lyn to read or someone gets her a pdf/hardback for her(we're letting her decide if we can have those toys. ;) ).
Also, advice: If you want to be a guy possessed by a demon, I'll bet that Damiani will sniff you out pretty quickly, because he's a redeemed demon.
*covers self with skirt while shrieking in shock, trying to hide*
"Gasp! How did you figure that out!?"
While that may be true, I guess, I was going for a conduit of arcane power!!!
But I suppose you are right. If I'm thinking of a character I would like to play, I still like the idea of starting young. As for a story, I guess I would either have to read the 60,000+ posts or at least have someone recap the recent developments. I mean, its a school right? So classes and training and missions X-men style?
Ok then, Billy's personality and history. Tell me if you already have this.(Seriously) Something along the lines of the kid version of Afro samurai, a boy driven to become the best swordsman to ever live, motivated by the need to avenge his family's deaths and the deaths of everyone in his village at ,(oh idea)the hands of a clan of super powerful Ninjas(with the demon-possed template:D!) Called the Blacksoul Clan.
He will be foward, and proud, tough and challenging. Billy dislikes when people treat him as a little kid or consider him helpless.
Well, there /are/ Ninja peeps in the game, so you'd have some backstory to build atop of there.
As for the end goal of being the best at swordman, that's pretty straightforward and has potential to lead to MANY routes... as for the slaughtered family, friends and dog, well ... yeah, you'd find some comrades there too.
The missions and such, do occur-- but, the pace is /very/ casual, in my experience. Then again, I'm VERY impatient at times and eager for progress at breakneck speeds. That's my flaw. :)
So, again -- you still want to be possessed? :) Is it the 'evil' aspect you like, Bane88, or is it the 'freedom' that would come from a naturally Chaotic Evil guy who honestly doesn't give two cents about his actions when it comes down to it?
Merely curious at the drive for demon possession. :)
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Mostly ninja'd by Damiani. 43 seconds.
While that may be true, I guess, I was going for a conduit of arcane power!!!
But I suppose you are right. If I'm thinking of a character I would like to play, I still like the idea of starting young. As for a story, I guess I would either have to read the 60,000+ posts or at least have someone recap the recent developments. I mean, its a school right? So classes and training and missions X-men style?
Not very many 'missions' lately. Or ever, unless we count that plague...
Ok then, Billy's personality and history. Tell me if you already have this.(Seriously) Something along the lines of the kid version of Afro samurai, a boy driven to become the best swordsman to ever live, motivated by the need to avenge his family's deaths and the deaths of everyone in his village at ,(oh idea)the hands of a clan of super powerful Ninjas(with the demon-possed template:D!) Called the Blacksoul Clan.
Not in one package like that, but... Yeah. :p
We've got swordsman wanting to avenge their families, a barbarian wanting to avenge his village, a clan of powerful ninjas(two, actually) and we've had people possessed by stuff more evil than demons(Like Madness Seeds...).He will be foward, and proud, tough and challenging. Billy dislikes when people treat him as a little kid or consider him helpless.
This could be fun. Especially if he either looks younger or is actually in the elementary school.
With the new story idea, Billy wouldn't necessarily need to be possessed, though the thought of using the evil ninja clan's own secret weapon against them is appealing. I would say it's neither of those soley, maybe a bit of both, I don't just love playing evil bastards(well...sometimes) I just kind of like the idea of 'power within' something that would make a ten year old a threat to powerful adult characters, and I'm totally open to it being something other than a surprise total disregard for the lives of others.
It would even be cool to be possessed by a spirit of Justice(dragon age style) or an angel or something that is opposed to the darkness that Billy was exposed to. Once again though, I could just forgo the possession and let Billy struggle against overwhelming odds himself to avenge his peeps.
This is my character. Fluff will be up soon!
-Tsiron
Looks good so far.
We have two clans of feuding ninjas, one aasimars and one tielfings, if that helps.
Hi, Bane88. :)
Okay, let me start with the dual personalities thing...yeah, we've got a lot of that going on. Probably not the best idea.
The demon possession thing would be a problem in the elementary class (since he's 10) because the teacher would...well...she'd scare the demon. She's not evil (often....anymore) but she's got a bit of a reputation in the Abyss thanks to her childhood (long story) and isn't likely to be too keen on a demon possessing one of her students. She gets a bit territorial about stuff like that. It's one of those things that would not last long. Wouldn't last long in the high school either. There are certain members of the staff who get a bit tetchy about that sort of thing due to traumatic past experiences.
TL;DR: Redeemed demon = okay. Possessed by demon = well, that problem was solved quickly.
Now, on to the ninja idea. This has merit, but I would suggest that you think smaller. Here's what happens if there's this who evil clan of shinobi murdering whole villages. Your guy tells his classmate who happens to belong to the Amateru clan (they're aasimar shinobi). She mentions it to her family and also probably to Kitty-senpai who mentions it to her family the Akuma clan (tiefling shinobi). The Amateru and Akuma finally find something they agree on and go to war with the rogue shinobi clan. Much of the action happens off-screen and doesn't involve your character because it turned into a political problem that the other clans could not ignore.
Alternately, make the problem smaller. Billy's family was murdered by the heir to the chief of his village. Billy knows that this person is possessed by a demon, but he can't prove it and nobody believes him on either count. They all believe the story the other guy told that the family was killed by raiders and that Billy is just addled by grief. So he has run away and is looking to become stronger and find some way of delivering justice to the person who murdered his family. Now the quest is smaller and more personal. You have a reason for people to want to help Billy and less chance of anyone else swooping in and stealing his thunder so to speak.
And I would be cool with Billy being willingly possessed by a celestial being a la Justice from Dragon Age. Since it can be proven to be a consensual symbiotic relationship it doesn't get treated with the same hostility that an unwilling demonic possession would.
So, out of curiosity, what is the status on champions? It just said champion powers, etc., not really what was their deal and how they came to be.
Is every student a champion?
Can Ioln qualify being the Champion of Redemption?
Etc., etc.
no, very few students are champions, there are a list of them at the bottom
(this character will become one later "today")
they are people who are chosen to act on behalf of the setting specific greater beings that were before the Gods known as Patrons, and they used the gods as such but then the gods got too cocky and struck out for independence (and were initially rather successful... but were then killed)
they each represent a concept, and are fundamentally neutral, but we may precieve them otherwise
Hope and Light are two of them and acting as antagonists at the moment (not sure if Time still is, he's been kinda moody lately)
Dave is about to become the champion of the Patron, Pride
champions recognize each other on sight
if you exhibit a trait that corresponds to a Patron that does not have a champion you might be selected
So, out of curiosity, what is the status on champions? It just said champion powers, etc., not really what was their deal and how they came to be.
Is every student a champion?
Can Ioln qualify being the Champion of Redemption?
Etc., etc.
That is a very limited thing. There are only a set number of them, only certain concepts qualify, and we can revisit this after you've been playing for a while as I don't hand out a limited powerful resource like that to a brand new player. These are a unique feature of the setting and it's probably better to worry about learning the basics of the setting before getting to the advanced stuff. :)
would redemption even be a patron worthy concept?
No. I've already shot it down multiple times. Doesn't meet all the prerequisites. Too concerned with Good/Evil while the Patrons technically predate Good/Evil.
Besides, it would kinda be covered by mercy...
Witch, interestingly enough, Is an almost uniquely good concept.
Besides, it would kinda be covered by mercy...
Witch, interestingly enough, Is an almost uniquely good concept.
Not when it leads to people getting away with doing bad things and therefore the continued spread of evil in the world. Taken to extremes Mercy causes harm. The Patron is amoral and only concerned with is own continuation and growth of power. It doesn't actually care about the consequences.
Besides, it would kinda be covered by mercy...
Witch, interestingly enough, Is an almost uniquely good concept.
Totally Mercy's fault those sub-Gods got loose and rebelled. She gave 'em help, out of pity. Bad Patron, bad!
Not when it leads to people getting away with doing bad things and therefore the continued spread of evil in the world. Taken to extremes Mercy causes harm. The Patron is amoral and only concerned with is own continuation and growth of power. It doesn't actually care about the consequences.Besides, it would kinda be covered by mercy...
Witch, interestingly enough, Is an almost uniquely good concept.
See, sentient beings?
You should crush Mercy's existence and any of it's extended allies-- or pets.
Oh, and sexy times, all the time! Celebration as a reward! Enjoy Life!
Weeee!
Ok nice, making progress, thanks to everone for the help!
The smaller scale is doable, didn't know that the other ninja clans would be all up in arms over a slaughtered village (they're good ninjas? or don't like the wanton destruction of stuff without purpose?)
Do PCs gain XP on a fairly regular basis in this game? Because I would thematically like to start Billy off at a lower level 5-7 and have him really push to gain power.
How would you feel about the Half-Celestial template thematically representing the symbiotic spirit? (Feel like I should go with Vengance)
Ok nice, making progress, thanks to everone for the help!
The smaller scale is doable, didn't know that the other ninja clans would be all up in arms over a slaughtered village (they're good ninjas? or don't like the wanton destruction of stuff without purpose?)
Do PCs gain XP on a fairly regular basis in this game? Because I would thematically like to start Billy off at a lower level 5-7 and have him really push to gain power.
How would you feel about the Half-Celestial template thematically representing the symbiotic spirit? (Feel like I should go with Vengance)
You'll be managing your own growth (xp gain/development) for the most part, we aren't really ... administration junkies of such, here.
Hence my point earlier about ignore stats for now. :)
Incidentally-- Vengeance is never 'nice', so if you're leaning on a Celestial (good variant) bond, Justice might be more appropriate for a 'theme'-- plus, you could end up finding like minded souls while educating others out of their 'drive to get revenge'.
Good story potentials there.
I got it. More of the you gain a level at a certain event or story development, but that decision is left in the hands of me as a player.
I got it. More of the you gain a level at a certain event or story development, but that decision is left in the hands of me as a player.
Story > Stats
Rules Light
Collaborative Storytelling
Just a few 'phrases' that I have circulating (for better or worse) in my head thinking of this game setting.
YMMV.
in certain extreme situations, the law is inadequate. In order to shame its inadequacy, it is necessary to act outside the law. To pursue... natural justice. This is not vengeance. Revenge is not a valid motive, it's an emotional response. No, not vengeance. Punishment.
Ok nice, making progress, thanks to everone for the help!
The smaller scale is doable, didn't know that the other ninja clans would be all up in arms over a slaughtered village (they're good ninjas? or don't like the wanton destruction of stuff without purpose?)
Do PCs gain XP on a fairly regular basis in this game? Because I would thematically like to start Billy off at a lower level 5-7 and have him really push to gain power.
How would you feel about the Half-Celestial template thematically representing the symbiotic spirit? (Feel like I should go with Vengance)
They don't like their reputation being sullied because some rogue clan is wantonly murdering whole villages. It's an honor thing.
And as Dami said, you manage your own level raises. Whenever you think it's appropriate up to the level cap. We don't track XP. It's a rules light game. This lets things be more story and setting driven without worrying so much about having to fight crap.
in certain extreme situations, the law is inadequate. In order to shame its inadequacy, it is necessary to act outside the law. To pursue... natural justice. This is not vengeance. Revenge is not a valid motive, it's an emotional response. No, not vengeance. Punishment.
Yes, exactly. :)
Perhaps a level 6 magus/hexblade or duskblade with he half celestial and fiendish templates? You could even take the blade bound archetype and RP your blade as demon possessed
Cough cough.
Hmmm... I really like my concept: blessed by the dark powers, being swayed for a while before redemption, and as a gift, the celestials gifted him with a blade. However, I can't really think of a good backstory.
Totally Mercy's fault those sub-Gods got loose and rebelled. She gave 'em help, out of pity. Bad Patron, bad!Besides, it would kinda be covered by mercy...
Witch, interestingly enough, Is an almost uniquely good concept.
Snicker "'Got loose'"...
Perhaps a level 6 magus/hexblade or duskblade with he half celestial and fiendish templates? You could even take the blade bound archetype and RP your blade as demon possessed
This is cool, could even play it Cable style, like the celestial presence keeps it bound in the blade.
EDIT: what is Hexblade or Duskblade?
3.5 classes. The hexblade is also a magus archetype, I believe.
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Hmmm... I really like my concept: blessed by the dark powers, being swayed for a while before redemption, and as a gift, the celestials gifted him with a blade. However, I can't really think of a good backstory.
perhaps one of the incoming firebirds, maybe one of the ones bound to a noble house (I think all the nobles are taken, but it doesn't make much a difference, as with the destruction of their home nobility doesn't make much a difference)
Hmmm... I really like my concept: blessed by the dark powers, being swayed for a while before redemption, and as a gift, the celestials gifted him with a blade. However, I can't really think of a good backstory.perhaps one of the incoming firebirds, maybe one of the ones bound to a noble house (I think all the nobles are taken, but it doesn't make much a difference, as with the destruction of their home nobility doesn't make much a difference)
Doesn't fit with his character thus far. He picked a different race I think. Not too late to change if he wants, just would take some adjustments.
I think I'm Going to go with Sword Saint 7// Magus 7
Sword saint?
The samurai archtype?
Yup, Iajitsu Strike with the Black Blade, that's what's up!
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*throws most recent idea out window*
Actually had the whole build, too.
Kensai for sure!
WHERE WAIT=TOO_LONG;
SNOOZE=LOSE