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Prediction: Numeria LO Book. Four new classes. Obvs with the staffing issues it will be tricky. But I have faith.


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richienvh wrote:
Gonna make more than one prediction and say we’ll see the Inquisitor this time around coupled with a divine, but reworked Shaman (think it’ll be divine because of the spirit + life as opposed to matter +life in SoM) Next year’ll be Kineticist + Shifter and in 2024 we’ll see APG2 or Mythic to mark the edition’s five year anniversary (:
Unicore wrote:
I am going to guess that there will only be one class being playtested and it will be a primal/divine/touch of occultism removed from the spooky, hybrid book that focuses on animism and non-diety spiritualism. So we will get a shaman class, and a champion class archetype that removes the god and alignment focus and replaces it with causes to defend.

Both of these would make me incredibly happy. Fingers crossed! I had assumed any divine book would be Inquisitor + Medium, but swapping out the latter for a reworked Shaman would be fun.

I could even see Medium being rolled into Shaman the way Spiritualist fed the 2e Summoner - ghosts and spirits aren’t all that different.

A divine Shaman would help non-deistic faiths still feel legitimate.


What time should I tune in to twitch tomorrow on the east coast?


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WWHsmackdown wrote:
What time should I tune in to twitch tomorrow on the east coast?

3PM.


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Was gonna try and be helpful and post all the time zones in relation to everything starting. But, there are so many and I don't want to mistakenly give wrong information. ^^'

Last predictions:
PF: Sticking to my hope for something introducting a Warlord style Class. Which, could be fitting, as I feel it reflects what I imagine a "Pirate Captain" class might be. In which case, gonna say overall martial expansion?
LO: High Seas.
AP: No idea really.

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I will be attempting take notes, mostly for my own entertainment. But I know TMS has that covered typically. And we thank you for it friend. :)


Ly'ualdre wrote:

Was gonna try and be helpful and post all the time zones in relation to everything starting. But, there are so many and I don't want to mistakenly give wrong information. ^^'

Last predictions:
PF: Sticking to my hope for something introducting a Warlord style Class. Which, could be fitting, as I feel it reflects what I imagine a "Pirate Captain" class might be. In which case, gonna say overall martial expansion?
LO: High Seas.
AP: No idea really.

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I will be attempting take notes, mostly for my own entertainment. But I know TMS has that covered typically. And we thank you for it friend. :)

TMS's reddit account seems to be gone when I checked for one of their posts a couple of days ago. So we might have to do more ourselves this time around.


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Really? Unfortunate. I recall seeing it maybe a week ago. I hope everything is okay.

Well, just in case, I'll post what I can for those who miss it; as I am sure others will as well.

I shall do my best for TMS!! >:D


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Karmagator wrote:
Ly'ualdre wrote:

Was gonna try and be helpful and post all the time zones in relation to everything starting. But, there are so many and I don't want to mistakenly give wrong information. ^^'

Last predictions:
PF: Sticking to my hope for something introducting a Warlord style Class. Which, could be fitting, as I feel it reflects what I imagine a "Pirate Captain" class might be. In which case, gonna say overall martial expansion?
LO: High Seas.
AP: No idea really.

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I will be attempting take notes, mostly for my own entertainment. But I know TMS has that covered typically. And we thank you for it friend. :)

TMS's reddit account seems to be gone when I checked for one of their posts a couple of days ago. So we might have to do more ourselves this time around.

Just checked, /u/The-Magic-Sword posted a comment 5 hours ago. :V


Ezekieru wrote:
Karmagator wrote:
Ly'ualdre wrote:

Was gonna try and be helpful and post all the time zones in relation to everything starting. But, there are so many and I don't want to mistakenly give wrong information. ^^'

Last predictions:
PF: Sticking to my hope for something introducting a Warlord style Class. Which, could be fitting, as I feel it reflects what I imagine a "Pirate Captain" class might be. In which case, gonna say overall martial expansion?
LO: High Seas.
AP: No idea really.

----

I will be attempting take notes, mostly for my own entertainment. But I know TMS has that covered typically. And we thank you for it friend. :)

TMS's reddit account seems to be gone when I checked for one of their posts a couple of days ago. So we might have to do more ourselves this time around.
Just checked, /u/The-Magic-Sword posted a comment 5 hours ago. :V

I must have messed up somewhere or maybe they had two accounts? In any case, I was wrong, sorry ^^


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Karmagator giving everyone heart attacks. smh

More seriously: Something I'm at least as excited to learn as what the content of the playtest is going to look like is who is taking lead on the class(es) and what apparent lessons they've learned from prior classes and class playtests.


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Just FYI for y'all, the Paizo Events Discord seems to lack any AMAs this year. Which makes sense, since most of the employees are at the physical convention this time around. Just giving a head's up, since that means we won't be getting much additional information via the Discord AMAs like we got the last couple of years.

Kinda sad in that way, since I've been enjoying posting the answers up and seeing everyone's reactions.


I'm not actually following this event, but what concrete do we have to launch? I mean APs, Hardcover books, Playtest...?


LordeAlvenaharr wrote:
I'm not actually following this event, but what concrete do we have to launch? I mean APs, Hardcover books, Playtest...?

If I remember correctly, we usually get one big rule book (like Dark Archive or G&G), at least one AP (I think it is even two) and one major Lost Omens entry.


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LordeAlvenaharr wrote:
I'm not actually following this event, but what concrete do we have to launch? I mean APs, Hardcover books, Playtest...?

We'll know what the next rulebook is after Treasure Vault, and at least what the next 3 part AP will be after Gatewalkers. Very likely we'll know that the 6 part AP after that reveal will be, but only the logo. Maybe a reveal of a Standalone adventure, too? And definitely the announcement of the playtest class(es).

Plus, plenty of spoilers from the books we already know about, like the equipment in Treasure Vault or the new ancestries or options found in Lost Omens: Impossible Lands. Maybe a showcase of stuff in Lost Omens: Travel Guide, too.

EDIT: OH! And definitely coverage of the Kingmaker 2E compilation. That's gonna be huge this year, given the long delays.


Thanks!

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I say LO High seas because of the Firebrands and a Primal book to go with it, the classes might then be Shaman and Shifter.

And an AP on the seas would be nice. The last ones were pretty long ago.


Okay - last few minutes. Time for crazy ideas:

- Book of the Infernal, plus LO: the Hells. The AP starts in Cheliax, and overall spends about half its time there, but passes back and forth with some frequency.

Who else has one?


Crossing my fingers for the longshot of Inquisitor + Arcadia, but I more fully expect Shaman + Broken Lands!


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RAGE OF ELEMENTS, BB

Edit: Coming with Kineticist and the playtest drops on Monday.


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I am so excited to see Teenage Yoon.


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Our playtest is for Rage of Elements' single class, the Kineticist.

I'm super bummed to not see Shaman or Shifter alongside it, if I'm being honest, but I know this will make a lot of people happy. The addition of the traditional Asian wood and metal elements does make me wonder about the Tian Xia 2023 theory…


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keftiu wrote:

Our playtest is for Rage of Elements' single class, the Kineticist.

I'm super bummed to not see Shaman or Shifter alongside it, if I'm being honest, but I know this will make a lot of people happy.

There is still hope! This is a book on elements. But maybe not necessarily one on nature. :D

I'm very excited, even if it wasn't my want atm. More than anything, the new information on the planes and elements, especially the Plane of Wood and Plane of Metal. Can't wait. I hope it dives into Void and the Vudran Spirit element, and all the others that have been mentioned in the past.


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If you're doing a "ELEMENTS" book the Kineticist really is a better match to the rest of the themes than the Shaman or Shifter though.

A Shifter or a Shaman might have nothing to do with fire or water.

I do like the idea of putting classes in smaller books. Rage of the Elements is roughly the same structure as Book of the Dead right?


Hot damn. I had honestly not expected it this soon.

I am very, very excited about this.

I hope they've gotten some value from our various ongoing debates on the topic.

I'm absolutely looking forward to it, but I'm also bracing for an outpouring of significant quantities of salt from someone. (Maybe me.)


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I am so, so happy. I do feel slightly bad about only one class coming, so sorry to all those who hoped for different, but yeah. I've been waiting for this for so long. And a book solely focused on the elements?? If we also get class options like elemental barbarian and other fun stuff that would be amazing


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Stolen Fate seems interesting; I’m glad to have another 11-20, even if my eyes did roll a little to see the old fortune teller stereotype still alive and well.

The Enmity Cycle is /very/ exciting, as Thuvia has gone hugely under-explored so far. I’d love for it to be the first sign of some more Golden Road love to follow.


Sanityfaerie wrote:

Hot damn. I had honestly not expected it this soon.

I am very, very excited about this.

I hope they've gotten some value from our various ongoing debates on the topic.

I'm absolutely looking forward to it, but I'm also bracing for an outpouring of significant quantities of salt from someone. (Maybe me.)

Lots of salt will be coming. I might even avoid the boards for the playtest (or at least the early part). Not that I am on that much at the moment.

There will be some people who won't think the class is strong enough. Guaranteed

It is a good idea to just do a sole class playtest for this one though. It needs the focus and attention to get it "right".

I am fascinated by the idea of a Wood and Metal kineticist. Seems really interesting. Relatively straightforward "defense" options assuming that stays. But we won't know anything about those until next year


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My fiancé was just talking last week about how she wants a chance to play a harrower, and Gatewalkers into Stolen Fate is looking like a great place for that right now!


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I most saddened by the lack of Ratajin info. I NEEEEEEEED to know what they are!! D:

Also, don't think we didn't catch that Gravelands slip-up Erik!!!! Lol


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I'm pretty excited by an AP that features the Harrow heavily. It gives me hope for a Harrow book in mid (if LO) to late (if rulebook, which I doubt) 2023.

And I can't wait to see how the kineticist got updated. Even if it's not what I would have wanted, it'll be interesting to see how it shook out among the various ways they could have taken it.


I might get to use my old Harrow Deck with the new AP!

Could maybe even allow my current group to carry on when they finish their current AP at level 15. Perhaps the "Stolen Fate" can also strip back a few levels. Or scaling might be possible (but slow leveling it would cause might be unpopular...)


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Woohoo!!! Kineticist! I'm officially satisfied with pf2s class options. Now I'll just shill for the classes keftiu wants.


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Perpdepog wrote:
I think the theory that the psychic was sort of a prototype kineticist, and that Paizo is letting psychic run around a bit and gage community reaction, holds water. That's the main reason I'm thinking we aren't getting a kineticist in the upcoming playtest.

Welp, I've never been happier to be wrong. :P


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I will say, I’m increasingly swayed by the Tian Xia in 2023 theory. Treasure Vault’s framing device being an Underworld Dragon’s hoard plus Rage of Elements adding the Chinese wood and metal (plus the Iconic Kineticist being Tian) feels like they’re both building to something.


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Lanathar wrote:

Lots of salt will be coming. I might even avoid the boards for the playtest (or at least the early part). Not that I am on that much at the moment.

There will be some people who won't think the class is strong enough. Guaranteed

It is a good idea to just do a sole class playtest for this one though. It needs the focus and attention to get it "right".

I am fascinated by the idea of a Wood and Metal kineticist. Seems really interesting. Relatively straightforward "defense" options assuming that stays. But we won't know anything about those until next year

Oh, I expect that the playtest version will be on the weak side, at least a little. It's been the pattern, after all. I think people will get over that - make it clear to Paizo how underpowered it is (or not) and move on.

The salt that I'm expecting are from the burn/no-burn and the damage-focused/high-utility disagreements. Hard to square those circles.
It's especially ugly given how greedy some of us are for build choices (such that answers like "we can give you full-featured burn as a series of class feats" is still going to be disappointing to some because they want those class feats for all the other customization goodies.)

Ah, well.

On the bright side, for me personally? Thaumaturge implements have restored my faith to a degree. At this point I have some confidence that even if the Kineticist isn't the "primary caster freed from the shackles of daily resources" that I dream of it being, we'll get something that is that thing if I just wait patiently enough.

We'll see, I suppose.


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I'm almost as interested in seeing how the Planes of Wood and Metal are going to work as I am the kineticist playtest. The cosmology of Pathfinder has been pretty well-defined for a long time; it feels odd that two elemental planes were just forgotten about or overlooked. I'm looking forward to hearing how they fit, how big they are, etc.

Wayfinders

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Perpdepog wrote:
I'm almost as interested in seeing how the Planes of Wood and Metal are going to work as I am the kineticist playtest. The cosmology of Pathfinder has been pretty well-defined for a long time; it feels odd that two elemental planes were just forgotten about or overlooked. I'm looking forward to hearing how they fit, how big they are, etc.

To me that's like a much more exciting selling point of the book than the kineticist class itself (though I'm glad we're finally getting it, even if I have no stake in the 1e classic).

Are we getting new planar dragons? Metal and wood genies? New geniekin versatile heritages? Cool new places on Golarion where those planes have a strong influence? We saw concept art of new elementals for these planes, but surely that can't be the only thing there.


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Perpdepog wrote:
I'm almost as interested in seeing how the Planes of Wood and Metal are going to work as I am the kineticist playtest. The cosmology of Pathfinder has been pretty well-defined for a long time; it feels odd that two elemental planes were just forgotten about or overlooked. I'm looking forward to hearing how they fit, how big they are, etc.

I imagine this may come down to a matter of the metaphysical and cosmological differences in philosophy amongst cultures. They either aren't recognized by the wider world as being Planes proper or are hidden/difficult to access by most conventional means the others are. Could also be maybe demiplanes that aren't quite as prevalent. Just some ideas.

I'm interested to learn more about Metal in this case; particularly in how it comes to exist. Like, Wood develops from the elements interacting with the energy of the First World.

Multiverse stuff is what I find more interesting in a setting.


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WWHsmackdown wrote:
Woohoo!!! Kineticist! I'm officially satisfied with pf2s class options. Now I'll just shill for the classes keftiu wants.

With the Kineticist crowd now appeased (in theory, anyway - I expect a bloodbath in the playtest), Team Inquisitor does feel like the top of the heap for the potential classes that remain. Happy to have you onboard!


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I'm alive, did the write up live if anyone needs it it's right here I'll be doing more for some of the other panels!


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Ly'ualdre wrote:
Perpdepog wrote:
I'm almost as interested in seeing how the Planes of Wood and Metal are going to work as I am the kineticist playtest. The cosmology of Pathfinder has been pretty well-defined for a long time; it feels odd that two elemental planes were just forgotten about or overlooked. I'm looking forward to hearing how they fit, how big they are, etc.

I imagine this may come down to a matter of the metaphysical and cosmological differences in philosophy amongst cultures. They either aren't recognized by the wider world as being Planes proper or are hidden/difficult to access by most conventional means the others are. Could also be maybe demiplanes that aren't quite as prevalent. Just some ideas.

I'm interested to learn more about Metal in this case; particularly in how it comes to exist. Like, Wood develops from the elements interacting with the energy of the First World.

Multiverse stuff is what I find more interesting in a setting.

I was considering those ideas too. My bet is on demiplanes of some kind, or perhaps an intersection of a few planes that has its own metaphysical geography, like the Planes of Fire and Earth having a new space between that becomes the Plane of Metal. I'd also thought about differences in outlook allowing someone to access the different planes, but I also figure we would have heard about that being the case already given we've been to Tian Xia a few times.

Liberty's Edge

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Sad for no Inquisitor. Hopeful for a great take on Kineticist that opens many character concepts. Like Thaumaturge does.

Radiant Oath

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Already I'm speculating where we're headed next, and given Rage of Elements deep dives into wood and metal, I agree we're probably bound for Tian Xia! Can't wait to see how Empress Amatatsu Ameiko's doing!


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I’m curious how the “entire AP dropping at once” experiment goes. One of the flaws of the traditional format is that volumes often feel disconnected, because they aren’t written in unison - putting them all between the same covers might fix that.

I’d gladly try it on the PF2 side.


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Perpdepog wrote:
Ly'ualdre wrote:
Perpdepog wrote:
I'm almost as interested in seeing how the Planes of Wood and Metal are going to work as I am the kineticist playtest. The cosmology of Pathfinder has been pretty well-defined for a long time; it feels odd that two elemental planes were just forgotten about or overlooked. I'm looking forward to hearing how they fit, how big they are, etc.

I imagine this may come down to a matter of the metaphysical and cosmological differences in philosophy amongst cultures. They either aren't recognized by the wider world as being Planes proper or are hidden/difficult to access by most conventional means the others are. Could also be maybe demiplanes that aren't quite as prevalent. Just some ideas.

I'm interested to learn more about Metal in this case; particularly in how it comes to exist. Like, Wood develops from the elements interacting with the energy of the First World.

Multiverse stuff is what I find more interesting in a setting.

I was considering those ideas too. My bet is on demiplanes of some kind, or perhaps an intersection of a few planes that has its own metaphysical geography, like the Planes of Fire and Earth having a new space between that becomes the Plane of Metal. I'd also thought about differences in outlook allowing someone to access the different planes, but I also figure we would have heard about that being the case already given we've been to Tian Xia a few times.

Tian-Xia truely has been barely touched if you really think about it. So not too surprising it wasn't really properly established. Which is why I am hoping that it gets a Lost Omens book sooner rather than later. :D

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Also, thank you TMS. I have some notes I planned on post layer. But I'm sure they aren't anywhere near your greatness. ^^


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Ly'ualdre wrote:
Perpdepog wrote:
Ly'ualdre wrote:
Perpdepog wrote:
I'm almost as interested in seeing how the Planes of Wood and Metal are going to work as I am the kineticist playtest. The cosmology of Pathfinder has been pretty well-defined for a long time; it feels odd that two elemental planes were just forgotten about or overlooked. I'm looking forward to hearing how they fit, how big they are, etc.

I imagine this may come down to a matter of the metaphysical and cosmological differences in philosophy amongst cultures. They either aren't recognized by the wider world as being Planes proper or are hidden/difficult to access by most conventional means the others are. Could also be maybe demiplanes that aren't quite as prevalent. Just some ideas.

I'm interested to learn more about Metal in this case; particularly in how it comes to exist. Like, Wood develops from the elements interacting with the energy of the First World.

Multiverse stuff is what I find more interesting in a setting.

I was considering those ideas too. My bet is on demiplanes of some kind, or perhaps an intersection of a few planes that has its own metaphysical geography, like the Planes of Fire and Earth having a new space between that becomes the Plane of Metal. I'd also thought about differences in outlook allowing someone to access the different planes, but I also figure we would have heard about that being the case already given we've been to Tian Xia a few times.

Tian-Xia truely has been barely touched if you really think about it. So not too surprising it wasn't really properly established. Which is why I am hoping that it gets a Lost Omens book sooner rather than later. :D

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Also, thank you TMS. I have some notes I planned on post layer. But I'm sure they aren't anywhere near your greatness. ^^

d'aawwwww, my inflated ego appreciates your praise


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I medium sized kobold fire kineticist is my dream character. Don't know about the medium kobold, but the rest is starting to take shape and I couldn't be more excited.


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WWHsmackdown wrote:
I medium sized kobold fire kineticist is my dream character. Don't know about the medium kobold, but the rest is starting to take shape and I couldn't be more excited.

I'm still holding out hope for Wyvarans in the Impossible Lands book. I'm skeptical they'll be there, but it would be a dream.


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Huh. So, random non-kineticist takeaways from TMS's write-up: (Thanks TMS!)

- We have another version of plant-people! Inherently tasty, but don't want to be eaten. Huh.

- Looks like Gatewalkers is going to wind up with another set of alternate chargen rules. Might just be another version of the limited free archetype.

- It is good to see Yoon. That hairstyle looks very punk, which feels appropriate.


keftiu wrote:
WWHsmackdown wrote:
I medium sized kobold fire kineticist is my dream character. Don't know about the medium kobold, but the rest is starting to take shape and I couldn't be more excited.
I'm still holding out hope for Wyvarans in the Impossible Lands book. I'm skeptical they'll be there, but it would be a dream.

According to the stuff Magic Sword noted, Wyvarans aren't in the Impossible Lands book. New ancestries are Vanara, Ghoran, Nagaji, Vishkanya, and rhino-folk whose name I don't recall off the top of my head.

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