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My Dwarf Synthesist Summoner was posited in jest. For you own benefit, kindly remove it from your list!

Runeformers: Rise of the Autocorrect. Get’s pretty frustrating when people call you the Roomlord of Sim, or Rulelord of Enjoy.

Dwarf Synthesist Summoner with a Large Eidolon…be the dwarf in the giant…

Dwarfslayer!!!

One has to imagine “they” will be mining every post on every messageboard also… I take small comfort from the fcat the smoe peepul seam unbale to corretc their psots.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

scranford wrote:

I won't get into edition wars. I'll just say that the professionals at Paizo spent a lot of time and money designing a new system for some reason. :-) I started with white box D&D in 1975, and have played 1st, 3rd, 3.5, PF 1 and many others and to me PF2e is by far the easiest to GM even with all its rules. To me it removes the ambiguity of past rules systems.

From my experience trying to make it behave like other d20 systems is the downfall of liking the game or not.

I don't think either system is "Better" but 2e is better for me. I drug my players screaming and crying into it, but after adjusting that's all they want to play.

Cripes, Scranford, I thought I was the old guy here. I started with the same white box in 1977. Anyway, I agree with you in every particular here.

So you guys drug people screaming and crying until they adjust? There’s a few military dictatorships that might be hiring…. ;)

The Ronyon wrote:

A mount can save you actions, so any of the Archetypes that get you a ridable pet could be decent.

I wonder if there is one that gets you a focus point AND a rideable pet with the dedication.
I'm partial to the Goat because of the climb speed.

The Psychic choice that could work well with the thralls is Infinite Eye and their Amped Guidance and later Glimpse Weakness.
Tangible Dream for Amped Shield feels especially useful to increase your own survival.

I have a hard time justifying not picking Undead Master for an Undead Riding Horse for most Necromancer builds. Extra opportunities for positioning and movement, on the most thematic and cool creature possible. What's not to love?

Ceilings? Cramped corridors? Oh. Ladders.

There is a problem where previously available options (regardless of how borked they already were, nor how seldom they were used, possibly but not only due to aforementioned borkiness) are now repackaged as slightly different or the same, but now available a certain other, differently achievable way, in a supplement that is specifically *not* the Core experience.

Folks are justifiably concerned that this is not good design policy, and would like not to see the like happen ever again.

At least that is what Barney the Dinosaur told me to say. Except “borkiness”. That was Gumby.

Meanwhile, over in Runesmith territory, such delineations seem to be fading by the moment…

…meanwhile, in Greyhorc…

I’m pretty disappointed with Dragon Transformation too. Being able to turn into a dragon just because you are upset is…a bit silly.

Tridus wrote:

which I would argue that includes skull substitutions when appropriate.

Ok, that's horrifying... ;)

Well a lot of that went the way of the dodo once scientists people realised things like skull checks were inhumane…

Terry Shakespeare’s Funk Witches playing Hillsfar, Zhentil Keep, Neverwinter and laneway shows in the Dales!!! And just added: ultra secret show in Menzoberranzan!!!

Now I want to strap multiple bucklers to each of my four arms…

Chocolate-flavoured-cinnamon-dusted-nougat-centrefolk... they would be…yummy. Not sure why I’m craving them. But I am.

And remember the most important point across Painlord and DH’s canon: “Also watch out for doors”. Most dangerous thing to ever happen to a PbP.

ObligatoryHuman wrote:

Yeah, after all this stuff I have little, if any reason to look at wotc/hasbro for any of my gaming needs. Paizo secured that position lol.

Baldur's Gate 3 (and to a lesser extent the D&D movie) are the only cracks in that plan for me.

Neither of those interested me in the least - the former looks ok, but the latter had me worried for my stance for all of negative minus zero no-seconds after I watched any scenes/trailers etc. Mind excoriating guff.

Grrr. No satisfaction for you. You are…lucky. That’s right! Lucky! Next time RH, next time!

@Robert Henry! How dare you posit that I asked a question!?! I did not! I was merely pointing out that Dwarves have apparently perfected Gnomes, possibly through some magickal techniffery. How dare you sah! I demand satisfaction!

Batenia: The Great halls of the Dwarves. Allied deeply with Urliek the Dwarves have perfected Gnomes gunpowder and guns. They are industrious and prosperous. Though the hordes of Povel keep them in check. Dwarves Follow the scriptures of the Triumvrate, but also reviere thier ancestors and the earth is self.

Yes! Finally, gnomes that are…useful…and well-liked and…not irritating…or…annoying…or that might have…non-stupid names….or…a general lack of…nonsensical features!

Lion tamer.

Is that a Summoner archetype? So you are a Lion, what do you tame? ;)

“Don’t”.

(Also, any of you dwarf rejects* that don’t make it into this game might want to level up some and try out for a 10th level all-dwarf Giantslayer currently Recruiting HERE…I make no guarantee about the relative level of beer, or pretzels however…)

* I mean dwarves…who are not successful in this Recruitment. Becoz to say dwarves are rejects…is…notnice. Out loud, anywayz. Just ask Mad Marvin Dundlerock. He was in the other Recruitment…

trawets71 wrote:

What I always like about the AD&D games was playing their multiclass characters. An elven F/M or F/M/T. I think the closest you get to that today is Gestalt characters. Would you allow A Child of Acavna and Amaznen fighter? It would simulate the F/M I think.

You might have to flavor it to Faerun first.

Arkanim Blademaster

One person’s “grumpy paranoia” is another person’s “usefully emoted caution” just as one person’s “cheery naivete” is another person’s “not applying to this Recruitment”. ;)

Lord Fyre wrote:

TOZ wrote:

Good. Wizards have been riding high for too long.

That way of thinking is BAD for the long term health of the game.

I mean a reasonable thing to do when designing a new version of a game like this is to look at which classes were perceived as the weakest in the previous edition, and do the most work on those classes to make them work well. Which is why the Fighter, the Rogue, and the Monk are really good in PF2.

But when you do this the classes that gets the least attention are the ones that were considered the most powerful in the previous edition.

Alternatively, the super-reasonable thing to do when designing a new version of a game is to look at which classes wear stupid hats or lean in on incredibly tired tropes or are even nominally related to massively derivative somewhat popular books involving sticks and then…remove them from the game. And that is why the Fighter, the Rogue and the Monk are really good.

Keep ‘em coming Coriat.

The Y-shaped staff is utter nonsense, and clearly fails at least one historical, one engineering/technical and possibly two physics tests. I blame hoopaks.

How about gnomish flickmace? I feel like real gnomes wouldn’t have had the flexibility to obtain the required technique

Souls At War wrote:

All this alignments talk reminds me that Law vs Chaos was often the more backgound'ish of the two axis, and often conflated with the other as well.

Michael Moorcock's influence regarding Law vs. Chaos cannot be overstated.

Mostly because it should never be stated and his entire canon of “here’s a story over and over again but different” consigned to the dustbin of history. Also Hawkwind the band.

[That’s bad!!!]

They meant the conspirator dragon, silly.

I mean you're not going to find one single god to replace Gorum for everyone, that's kind of the point of killing him. Some of his followers will flock to Sarenrae or Iomedae for righteous battle, others to Szuriel or Zjar Tovan. Others to Arazni.

Some will find Gorum’s death personally epiphanous and pivot to more peaceful gods like Desna or…find peace with Gozreh. Some will in anger turn to dark gods like Asmodeus or in despair turn to warfare of a more sedate but no less dangerous form and worship Abadar.

And some will lose their faith entirely.

Such is the way of gods. And their disciples.

Throw Stick at Bucket

Your friends say there is a problem but you won’t admit it. So, setting up a bucket you show them what’s what.

Ranged Strike 1 Action

Requirements: Bucket within range; see also Set up Bucket of Aimless Aim feat

Make a Strike against an available Aimless Bucket within range. The Aimless Bucket has an AC of 5 and can be flanked. If you hit, you can use an immediate Reaction to “So there!” all allies within sightlines up to the horizon.

Wow, that is a long character sheet. I think it’s the +2 to Diplomacy from your Mercenary Trait that is going to be what ultimately grants ultimate victory over “Teh Kitteh”.

But how many pressups can you guys do? Do you even lift?

Welp, as the old saying I just completely coined goes: “Rather be insane than a Wizard”. I mean, have you seen those pointy hats?

If we do fast leveling, I can continue the campaign with the Slavers series. That is, if the party holds together. :)

Well that should create some interesting roleplay situations for Critzible’s gnome:

Gnome Alchemist. Simple peddlar of potions, creams, slaves, ect

Sorry Critz, I know you do almost all your posting from your phone, but this was too good to resist…;)

Ah, Snigrot Dogroot. How I have missed you…

Okay, so now I'm imagining the silliness of a party that consists of an Envoy, a Commander, a Battlelord, and a Bard, all madly handing buffs out to one another.

Free archetypes (if available) into Marshal, Alchemist, Medic, and the other Marshal.

I suspect it would actually work out pretty well.

(Frowns, mutters to self angrily) Marshal, Marshal, Marshal!

James Jacobs wrote:

I suppose Curtain Call works best as a sequel to Abomination Vaults.

The oddest pairing is probably Quest for the Frozen Flame, which will be my pitch for finally getting around to doing that one (so you can turn it into an opera!)

Iunno, Agents of Edgewatch as a cutting edge satirical noir police procedural musical opera could sell at least two tickets. If it was a one-person show. And your parents grandparents came.

LINK to free NASA adventure.

If only more government agencies would publish RPG supplements. I'm still waiting for the stakeout from the FBI, regime change/heist from the CIA, we-be-leshy-druids from the EPA and whatever that weird one is from the Department of Homeland Security.

OceanshieldwolPF 2.5 wrote:

... we get a bazillion spells like “Thread Laces” and “Boop Snoots”.

Ooh, sorry, which book is Boop Snoots in? Is it on the Divine list? AoN doesn't seem to have it yet and like, my kitsune's dating a kobold and a ysoki and there's a bunch of pets around, it's a very target-rich environment.

Ach...Primal I think...makes sense...yairs...

Irori was too busy to watch where he was going, tripped, stubbed his toe and died of gangrene. Pretty ignoble.

"Large". Probably the best news yet.

Though prehistoric species may not be available as "awakened" the thoughts of such do...call. Megatherium Thaumaturge (mmmmm). Nothronychus Monk. (I'm clearly also a sloth/sloth adjacent stan.)

Also hope to be able to awaken a crab, horseshoe crab or lobster. For, you know, funsies.

I’m not exactly sure “distracting” Rovagug is the same as “going toe-to-toe”, which tends to imply combat. I guess they could have been doing the gothic twostep while facing each other? No disrespect to Calistria intended - her role was clearly integrally hers and instrumental in the plan…

Crazy Theory:

A new threat appears that is stronger than the Core 20. It starts killing gods, making them actually fear for their lives for possibly the first time ever.

That’s right. Ensign Johnny, the Godripper.

Feeling powerless, some deities start plotting to free Rovagug to unleash him against this new threat, Godzilla style. They are betting on the idea that they caged Rovagug once, so they could always cage him a second time after he has defeated the threat.

And so at the worst possible time the gods go to war with each other, with the gods who want to free Rovagug on one side and those not willing to risk freeing him on the other.

All the while Ensign Johnny just wants to make it back home in one… piece.

/after Kittyburger

Unicore wrote:

keftiu wrote:

Our hint for this week from Luis: the deity has a two-syllable name.

This is a hint about which god will be featured this week, right?

Yes, this week's prophecy, not the actual dead deity.

Which makes it the deity who is going to not-die.

Wow. So amazingly…amazing. Stop with the tension. I might…care.

(Every time I read this thread title I read it as “Problematic Clerics, Friendly Gods”. Makes enough sense to me.)

I wouldn't be surprised if "Who was the killer, anyway?" was massive spoilers for the associated AP.

Unless there *is no* killer. Could be a bad case of the godsflu. Or perhaps a suicide. Old age? Fade away into nothingness out of sheer boredom with the whole schtick of having to endlessly being deific? Look, even superheroes get the blues...