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James Jacobs wrote:

I suppose Curtain Call works best as a sequel to Abomination Vaults.

The oddest pairing is probably Quest for the Frozen Flame, which will be my pitch for finally getting around to doing that one (so you can turn it into an opera!)

Iunno, Agents of Edgewatch as a cutting edge satirical noir police procedural musical opera could sell at least two tickets. If it was a one-person show. And your parents grandparents came.

LINK to free NASA adventure.

If only more government agencies would publish RPG supplements. I'm still waiting for the stakeout from the FBI, regime change/heist from the CIA, we-be-leshy-druids from the EPA and whatever that weird one is from the Department of Homeland Security.

OceanshieldwolPF 2.5 wrote:

... we get a bazillion spells like “Thread Laces” and “Boop Snoots”.

Ooh, sorry, which book is Boop Snoots in? Is it on the Divine list? AoN doesn't seem to have it yet and like, my kitsune's dating a kobold and a ysoki and there's a bunch of pets around, it's a very target-rich environment.

Ach...Primal I think...makes sense...yairs...

Irori was too busy to watch where he was going, tripped, stubbed his toe and died of gangrene. Pretty ignoble.

"Large". Probably the best news yet.

Though prehistoric species may not be available as "awakened" the thoughts of such do...call. Megatherium Thaumaturge (mmmmm). Nothronychus Monk. (I'm clearly also a sloth/sloth adjacent stan.)

Also hope to be able to awaken a crab, horseshoe crab or lobster. For, you know, funsies.

I’m not exactly sure “distracting” Rovagug is the same as “going toe-to-toe”, which tends to imply combat. I guess they could have been doing the gothic twostep while facing each other? No disrespect to Calistria intended - her role was clearly integrally hers and instrumental in the plan…

Crazy Theory:

A new threat appears that is stronger than the Core 20. It starts killing gods, making them actually fear for their lives for possibly the first time ever.

That’s right. Ensign Johnny, the Godripper.

Feeling powerless, some deities start plotting to free Rovagug to unleash him against this new threat, Godzilla style. They are betting on the idea that they caged Rovagug once, so they could always cage him a second time after he has defeated the threat.

And so at the worst possible time the gods go to war with each other, with the gods who want to free Rovagug on one side and those not willing to risk freeing him on the other.

All the while Ensign Johnny just wants to make it back home in one… piece.

/after Kittyburger

Unicore wrote:

keftiu wrote:

Our hint for this week from Luis: the deity has a two-syllable name.

This is a hint about which god will be featured this week, right?

Yes, this week's prophecy, not the actual dead deity.

Which makes it the deity who is going to not-die.

Wow. So amazingly…amazing. Stop with the tension. I might…care.

(Every time I read this thread title I read it as “Problematic Clerics, Friendly Gods”. Makes enough sense to me.)

I wouldn't be surprised if "Who was the killer, anyway?" was massive spoilers for the associated AP.

Unless there *is no* killer. Could be a bad case of the godsflu. Or perhaps a suicide. Old age? Fade away into nothingness out of sheer boredom with the whole schtick of having to endlessly being deific? Look, even superheroes get the blues...

"Debate bro". My new favorite perjorative. Followed by "Hoss". Going to stat up a new homebrewed debate-bro class and make a character called Hoss. brb.

If Desna falls, I will declare a holy war. No dallying, I will go straight-up Mendev on anyone at all.

Spoken like a true believer…

Pronate11 wrote:

Bluemagetim wrote:

Nolinquisitor wrote:

It's Abadar.

Is someone going to axe Abadar to get all the goodies in the first vault?

I mean, from a meta perspective, Abadar has a great mix of "his death with greatly impact the setting without destroying it" (cities and commerce will likely exist, but will be weakened, which is the start of a ton of great AP ideas) and "Surprising" (almost no one is claiming Abadar). Plus, I feel like he is popular enough for his death to matter, but not so popular that it would invalidate a ton of clerics and champions. I also really want to see what kind of capitalism powers his god goo can give exemplars.

The big problem of axing Abadar in my mind is that Abadar permits for the "rule" of capitalism. Removing Abadar over that means that someone else has to get it, and unless it becomes a good god that is actually all about charity and f%%#ing over evil (which isn't really a fun storyline) it just becomes a story of unabashed capitalism paralleling the real world.

Abadar keeps stories about laws, contracts, and money interesting in the fantasy setting.

Because we definitely need more...any of... those...

Is a schasm where two people are on such opposites sides of an argument that a giant pit forms between them, and they have to decide how, whether, where, when and why to jump AND which subsystem is appropriate to use to determine the outcome?

Happy lovely devils and demons will jig with unrepentant glee as they tiptoe thru reconstructed tulips helping lil old people of indeterminate gender cross at the lights... It's not their fault they're nice, it's what their ruleset would do!

Well, to be fair, having played in too many games with them - who haven’t gnomes annoyed?

I'm just wondering about how much damage a teddy bear does. Like, if the eyes are buttons, and the buttons are adamantine, that thing could really, and I mean...really! hurt.

Plus, I have successfully wielded up to...well at least two teddy bears successfully in more...heated pillow fights. Until the deeply contested (and some would say fraudulent) "no teddy bears with button-eyes" ruling of 2017...

I feel bad. I feel like I’m missing out on something for free I won’t use, but I don’t know what it is.

Ah. I thought “hybrid” meant something else then. Though to be fair, the rules quoted don”t mention “hybrid” at all.

(Sorry, I am still stuck on why the GM is controlling the character in hybrid form…)

“A tragick”. Anagram.

Just noticed Taargick is an anagram for a tragick.

You could always ask the Pathbuilder mob how they navigated said intricacies…

@DQ - I think you meant Investigator, not Inquisitor from the ACG…

Not every day you get a chance at high-level adventure like this. Alas, no Magus; it’s one of my favorites. But there are other ways to play a gish. I’ll be looking at possibly something like a Sorcerer->Dragon Disciple, or Alchemist (Vivisectionist)->Master Chymist, or maybe the divine side with a Warpriest. I’m away from home atm, but I’ll mull those options and look at the setting guide later today.

[Emphasis mine] Warpriest is not on the “available classes” list from THIS post upthread.

I did. I think. I’m having trouble remembering. What were we talking about?

Michael Sayre wrote:

… As an interesting data point, PF2 goblins are more popular among players than dwarves, halflings, or basically any other ancestry that's not humans and elves. The PF2 audience is larger than the PF1 audience, and the majority of people playing PF2 now have never played PF1 at all. So whatever the special spice that makes goblins magic is, has arguably only grown more rich and well-rounded during the current cycle.

….

Orcs and goblins are just like humans; some of them are awesome, some of them are monstrous. Some of them are rapacious murderers, some of them are unmitigated heroes. Some of them are very mitigated heroes. Which band an individual falls in is largely a matter of societal pressures and personal choice, in a cocktail no one truly understands.

And dwarves, halflings and other races that aren’t humans, elves and goblins (and orcs) are…not awesome, or monstrous, but…by and large….more and more….forgotten. Yay! The time of the orc is at hand!

Not that I remember. Would have been exceptionally…forgettable.

… As an interesting data point, PF2 goblins are more popular among players than dwarves, halflings, or basically any other ancestry that's not humans and elves. The PF2 audience is larger than the PF1 audience, and the majority of people playing PF2 now have never played PF1 at all. So whatever the special spice that makes goblins magic is, has arguably only grown more rich and well-rounded during the current cycle.

….

Orcs and goblins are just like humans; some of them are awesome, some of them are monstrous. Some of them are rapacious murderers, some of them are unmitigated heroes. Some of them are very mitigated heroes. Which band an individual falls in is largely a matter of societal pressures and personal choice, in a cocktail no one truly understands.

And dwarves, halflings and other races that aren’t humans, elves and goblins (and orcs) are…not awesome, or monstrous, but…by and large….more and more….forgotten. Yay! The time of the orc is at hand!

Sorry, it's mostly because I'm in an argumentative mood. I still love pf2e, and now that the computer game adaptation Dawnsbury Days is coming out and enabling me to fix all the math to my liking via modding, I feel empowered to speak out.

Enlinken’d. I’m not sure why there isn’t more news about this…hopefully the devs of that game can update it to PF2R…

I created a new thread under rules discussion named Remaster Dying with Wounded

Link to Remaster Dying with Wounded

Now off with you all, you’re killing me. Really slaying. You’re…dead to me. Don’t look at me like that, all…wounded.

SqueezeMeNow and GuardYourPrivates are the same poster. With rather good taste. In Drow. Or the lack of life thereof.

Or WotC and the ORC.

Thank you magnuskn for keeping the hits coming. Sadly, there is no way in all the hells I’ll even watch one of these, so can you ask TheMagicSword to compile all of these into a bullet point document. Preferably by tonight. Thanks!

I’m amazed how two people mentioned Barbarians+ without linking it, like everyone knows what it is or that it is a 3rd party product.

I’m just here waiting for the spoilers….

Cheesewizard.

LandSwordBear wrote:

I’m just happy Nelzy posted the word “dumbster” upthread. I can die happy now. In a dumbster fire. It’s the Remastered burning hands?

I believe that would be closer to fireball.

But only if you let it loose in an enclosed space.

I’m just happy Nelzy posted the word “dumbster” upthread. I can die happy now. In a dumbster fire. It’s the Remastered burning hands?

Now I want a feat called “Heckler’s Veto”. Only for use in Society play.

Mike Drop.

Dang, I'll have one of whatever Sheila's drinking.

Not if it means I have to sit in front of a stained glass window of….myself battling heroically. Or maybe that’s how she got to where she is. Drinking.

Take this with a huge grain of salt as I almost never play Sorcerers and don’t think I have ever played a Wizard. Wizards are outdated and should be consigned to the derivative bins whence Gandaldore and Saurmort derived. The distinction between Sorcerers and Wizards should rather be combined into a spellcasting class that casts a bunch of different ways utilising a bunch of different sources. With the ability to heal.

The exemplar isn't the enlightened Buddha. Their divinity isn't clearly and easily manifested. I think everyone here is over-estimating the divinity aspect demigods characters (Even though class description seems to specifically mentioning the demigod aspect).

The exemplar is a "hero". They are not so much made powerful by their items but their items serve as a manifesting form for their superhuman potential. If they didn't need these, they would be gods.

Well it is one way to look at things. But only one way. And it’s a neat thesis. But again, only one. Sadly, there are about a million kajillion bazillion ways of quantifying just how godlike…gods are and twice as many that describe the provenance of their powers - the one presented in the playtest document is one of them. And they are all about as logical as the next. My favorite is the one about backwards tea leaves, dried bananas and wrought iron fish legs. But not in that order.

"Oh no, the gunslinger doesn't have a cell phone!!!" is one of my favorite lines of in-game dialogue, no lie.

Who doesn’t give the primitive timetraveller here to fight space fascists a phone, or at least an ear-piece/comm unit? Sounds like inefficient use of available resources. Rookie error.

The real problem is what to call them? Batmanimist? Animattle? I keep thinking of a character called Anna “Ani” Baptiste.

Aha! 12 and a half hours until the un-veil-ing of the Nipple Lord, which moast definitely was not a class, prestige class or archetype in PF1. I *cannot* wait. Squeeee!

First pic is a dwarf. Nip Nippleson. Demigod-at-law.

Not seeing the bait, however... OP had a suggestion to be included in the game. Unfortunate timing notwithstanding, there's nothing controversial about that phrasing.

It’s the capitalised “Inclusion” that Darksol is alluding to. To, you know, make Pathfinder more…inclusive.

The king Has has a bro. Nah. I think the king is Ha. It’s Ha’s…bro.

So if you hit a pumpkin with a baseball bat the pumpkin pretty much asplodes. It’s like..an internet…like…thang. Do keep up.