July 2020 New Releases and Subscription Shipping


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Liberty's Edge

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Trying to decide if knowing I won't have to wait past tomorrow morning is worth $15 to me.


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Pending... Pending... Pending...

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Shisumo wrote:
Trying to decide if knowing I won't have to wait past tomorrow morning is worth $15 to me.

Same. Feelsbad tho since would basically lose out on main reason I subscribe in order to get it on street date instead of waiting for an order to ship that has been in pending for so long


Grace needs to extend both ways. I appreciate the work that CS and the Warehouse are doing but there should be something, in this case, to get pdf's a bit earlier to subscribers.

Grace builds upon and perfects nature :)


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Credit card has been charged! Now waiting for status to go to "shipped"!!! Come On Paizo, you can do it!!!

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mathD20 wrote:
Credit card has been charged! Now waiting for status to go to "shipped"!!! Come On Paizo, you can do it!!!

Gratz. No such luck here yet


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Rocket_Fodder wrote:
Semi-related but I haven't been able to use the link in the order to track my order. The http://www.ups-mi.net/ website times out.

Just got my shipping email and had the same problem. Try changing the url from http to https and see if that works.


Pathfinder LO Special Edition, Maps, Pathfinder Accessories, PF Special Edition Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Starfinder Superscriber

Got my shipping notification on Monday. I was pleasantly surprised to find that the shipping charges actually levied were cut by nearly half what the order said would be charged when it was pending.

Probably be next week before I actually get the shipment, but that's okay.

Back to reading pdfs. :-)

Liberty's Edge

Verlaunte wrote:
Knowing my luck I'd prob get my pdf on friday

That would still be better than Monday...


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

Knowing my luck I'd prob get my pdf on friday


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

imma just buy the pdf when it comes out then cancel my subscription


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Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:

Grace needs to extend both ways. I appreciate the work that CS and the Warehouse are doing but there should be something, in this case, to get pdf's a bit earlier to subscribers.

Grace builds upon and perfects nature :)

I agree with this. The benefits of subscribing for me are finely balanced given how much I end up paying in shipping to get books sent to the UK. My hard copies are now taking 6 weeks minimum to arrive so the benefits of subscribing are massively diminished if I could just buy the hard copy books separately from UK online retailers and the PDFs from Paizo and get everything earlier than if I had subscribed. Not added up whether the cost works out yet but pretty sure the figures are close.

We should get access to PDFs on street date or we are essentially providing Paizo with a guaranteed income stream for no actual benefit to ourselves.


Pathfinder LO Special Edition, Maps, Pathfinder Accessories, PF Special Edition Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Starfinder Superscriber

Hm. I wonder what percent, historically, of subscribers' orders have been shipped after the street date. Ten? One? One tenth? I suspect it's closer to the last than the first. At some point as the percentage gets larger I would think that keeping the customers happy overrides concern about people gaming the system to get free pdfs and then cancelling their orders. Still, that's up to Paizo, both as to where the line is, and as to whether there's a line at all.


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Medriev wrote:
Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:

Grace needs to extend both ways. I appreciate the work that CS and the Warehouse are doing but there should be something, in this case, to get pdf's a bit earlier to subscribers.

Grace builds upon and perfects nature :)

I agree with this. The benefits of subscribing for me are finely balanced given how much I end up paying in shipping to get books sent to the UK. My hard copies are now taking 6 weeks minimum to arrive so the benefits of subscribing are massively diminished if I could just buy the hard copy books separately from UK online retailers and the PDFs from Paizo and get everything earlier than if I had subscribed. Not added up whether the cost works out yet but pretty sure the figures are close.

We should get access to PDFs on street date or we are essentially providing Paizo with a guaranteed income stream for no actual benefit to ourselves.

A guaranteed income stream allows businesses to plan better, father in advance, which is in and of itself, a benefit to those of us who are big enough fans of Paizo's work to want to subscribe. Having said that, international shipping being what it is, I cannot imagine that I'd subscribe were our positions reversed.


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Ed Reppert wrote:
Hm. I wonder what percent, historically, of subscribers' orders have been shipped after the street date. Ten? One? One tenth? I suspect it's closer to the last than the first. At some point as the percentage gets larger I would think that keeping the customers happy overrides concern about people gaming the system to get free pdfs and then cancelling their orders. Still, that's up to Paizo, both as to where the line is, and as to whether there's a line at all.

people actually do that?


By this point in the process, the minority who remains will get very vocal, as we can see. I've posted multiple times in here myself every day, and I'm definitely not the only one. Especially as there are a lot of new subscribers here with PF2, and things have typically been smoother for us all so far.

Getting beat to the punch by Nethys posting everything tomorrow doesn't feel great, but it does mean that once I've gotten my PDFs, devoured them, and then had to go back into the office that I still have plenty of opportunity to research everything instead of working!


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Verlaunte wrote:
people actually do that?

I don't know that they do. I would hope not. But I have seen it cited as possibly one of the reason Paizo doesn't release pdfs to subscribers until they are charged for their subs.


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Ed Reppert wrote:
Hm. I wonder what percent, historically, of subscribers' orders have been shipped after the street date. Ten? One? One tenth? I suspect it's closer to the last than the first. At some point as the percentage gets larger I would think that keeping the customers happy overrides concern about people gaming the system to get free pdfs and then cancelling their orders. Still, that's up to Paizo, both as to where the line is, and as to whether there's a line at all.

It's happened to me three or four times in the last two years and seems to be an issue that is becoming more common pre-Covid. I love this company and want to keep throwing my money at them to keep producing awesome stuff but I need it to make economic sense to me too. Just allow subscribers access to PDFs on street date at the very latest (and charge my card for my order if that's what's needed).


Automationeer wrote:
Medriev wrote:
Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:

Grace needs to extend both ways. I appreciate the work that CS and the Warehouse are doing but there should be something, in this case, to get pdf's a bit earlier to subscribers.

Grace builds upon and perfects nature :)

I agree with this. The benefits of subscribing for me are finely balanced given how much I end up paying in shipping to get books sent to the UK. My hard copies are now taking 6 weeks minimum to arrive so the benefits of subscribing are massively diminished if I could just buy the hard copy books separately from UK online retailers and the PDFs from Paizo and get everything earlier than if I had subscribed. Not added up whether the cost works out yet but pretty sure the figures are close.

We should get access to PDFs on street date or we are essentially providing Paizo with a guaranteed income stream for no actual benefit to ourselves.

A guaranteed income stream allows businesses to plan better, father in advance, which is in and of itself, a benefit to those of us who are big enough fans of Paizo's work to want to subscribe. Having said that, international shipping being what it is, I cannot imagine that I'd subscribe were our positions reversed.

Same position, thinking of cancelling. The benefits do not out weigh the shipping cost from the US. I subbed basically because I believed Paizo deserved the most support I could give for PF2. But paying this much for getting a book maybe 2 months after release is just not going to cut it I think. Will likely unsub once its been processed and stop getting physical copies of the Lost Omens stuff.

Grand Lodge

Just got my email guys! I still hope they release pdf for pending orders that have been pending more than like, a week. It's not a good feeling waiting for an order to arrive after you could go get it at a FLGS


Well, everyone's orders have been pending for the exact same amount of time, since they ran authorizations in the 9th and 10th. Either way, always good to see more people getting their shipments started! One of these days, it will be me too.


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Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

just got mine too
finally
im excited


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Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

I continue to wait.

I am glad to see quite a few more people are getting their copies, at least. Means the line got shorter for me!


GayBirdGM wrote:

I continue to wait.

I am glad to see quite a few more people are getting their copies, at least. Means the line got shorter for me!

Yeah. It’s always worse when nobody seems to be getting anything - it makes you think there’s some major drama happening. This month, it’s mainly just lots of shipments....


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

All decidedly still Pending but glad others are seeing movement


Medriev wrote:
Ed Reppert wrote:
Hm. I wonder what percent, historically, of subscribers' orders have been shipped after the street date. Ten? One? One tenth? I suspect it's closer to the last than the first. At some point as the percentage gets larger I would think that keeping the customers happy overrides concern about people gaming the system to get free pdfs and then cancelling their orders. Still, that's up to Paizo, both as to where the line is, and as to whether there's a line at all.
It's happened to me three or four times in the last two years and seems to be an issue that is becoming more common pre-Covid. I love this company and want to keep throwing my money at them to keep producing awesome stuff but I need it to make economic sense to me too. Just allow subscribers access to PDFs on street date at the very latest (and charge my card for my order if that's what's needed).

Street date! As a former GM of Palladium Books RPGs I laugh at your silly notion of a street date.

I'm just joking by the way, it's all good.


Verlaunte wrote:

just got mine too

finally
im excited

I am so happy for you.


They pushed the shipping end date again, another week to Aug 3rd


bolorokenpay wrote:
They pushed the shipping end date again, another week to Aug 3rd

Source?

Liberty's Edge

Sporkedup wrote:
bolorokenpay wrote:
They pushed the shipping end date again, another week to Aug 3rd
Source?

The Aug 3 date is from the first post on the the thread, but that's not another week, it's literally the next business day from the last date we had.

(It's another weekend, though, and.... yeah. sigh)


Post #1 edit of shipping end date.

Customer Service Representative

**Edited to reflect correct dates.

The majority of folks should have their shipping confirmation emails by **Friday, July 31. That being said, we're giving a bit of wiggle room and putting Monday August 3 as the official end shipping estimate currently. If anything changes, we will post an update here.


What calendar are you using?


Friday is the 31st. Wednesday is the 29th. Which part was the typo?


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

The July subscription is always such a difficult wait. I will continue to check my emails and Digital Content every 5 minutes, and pretend that I'm being patient... And then the even longer wait for the books shipping to NZ begins.
I guess it's my own fault for adding things to my sidecart. And for moving to a tiny country on the arse end of the world.

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bolorokenpay wrote:
What calendar are you using?

Apparently, the calendar of "I miss office air conditioning". Sorry for the confusion! Post has been edited to reflect the correct date.


:(


Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

*edit for update*

Is it normal for one pending order to suddenly be split into different shipments, and sent two different, and more expensive, delivery methods?

*** what does pending suspended mean? ***


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Medriev wrote:
Ed Reppert wrote:
Hm. I wonder what percent, historically, of subscribers' orders have been shipped after the street date. Ten? One? One tenth? I suspect it's closer to the last than the first. At some point as the percentage gets larger I would think that keeping the customers happy overrides concern about people gaming the system to get free pdfs and then cancelling their orders. Still, that's up to Paizo, both as to where the line is, and as to whether there's a line at all.
It's happened to me three or four times in the last two years and seems to be an issue that is becoming more common pre-Covid. I love this company and want to keep throwing my money at them to keep producing awesome stuff but I need it to make economic sense to me too. Just allow subscribers access to PDFs on street date at the very latest (and charge my card for my order if that's what's needed).

My personal opinion is cards should be charged, books sent out and PDFs released to everyone on, or a day or two before street date. That way people whose shipments are delayed (like mine usually as I have a lot of them and live in a far away country) still get PDFs early, but with less risk of people cancelling just to get the PDF. If all PDFs are released at once it makes it easier to keep track of on the back end.

But I can completely understand that this would be unpopular with some people as getting PDFs a week or two early would be a factor in why some people are subscribers


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J03_M4M4 wrote:
Medriev wrote:
Ed Reppert wrote:
Hm. I wonder what percent, historically, of subscribers' orders have been shipped after the street date. Ten? One? One tenth? I suspect it's closer to the last than the first. At some point as the percentage gets larger I would think that keeping the customers happy overrides concern about people gaming the system to get free pdfs and then cancelling their orders. Still, that's up to Paizo, both as to where the line is, and as to whether there's a line at all.
It's happened to me three or four times in the last two years and seems to be an issue that is becoming more common pre-Covid. I love this company and want to keep throwing my money at them to keep producing awesome stuff but I need it to make economic sense to me too. Just allow subscribers access to PDFs on street date at the very latest (and charge my card for my order if that's what's needed).

My personal opinion is cards should be charged, books sent out and PDFs released to everyone on, or a day or two before street date. That way people whose shipments are delayed (like mine usually as I have a lot of them and live in a far away country) still get PDFs early, but with less risk of people cancelling just to get the PDF. If all PDFs are released at once it makes it easier to keep track of on the back end.

But I can completely understand that this would be unpopular with some people as getting PDFs a week or two early would be a factor in why some people are subscribers

Based on the staff list at the back of Lost Omens Gods and Magic, there are only about four or five people working in the warehouse. They've been working nonstop for more than two weeks on sending out shipments. There is no way they could possibly ship everyone's orders in a span of two or three days. They didn't start shipping three weeks ago just for kicks; it was probably the only cost-effective way to get everyone's (or at least almost everyone's) books in the mail before street date.

Liberty's Edge

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Literally just got my pdfs.
It’s not even 8 am in the UK, so somewhere between 11 and midnight Paizo time. How late are the warehouse staff working???

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I went through the following products and looked for subscriber copies of the following books which were not in sidecarts and not marked as having been processed for shipping & fulfilled, and added the corresponding PDF to the customer's digital asset. Unfortunately this is a product search and not a person search, so folks who have subscribed to multiple lines may have gotten multiple notifications for the various PDFs.

PZO7114 Starfinder Starship Operations Manual
PZO7230 Starfinder Adventure Path #30: Puppets Without Strings (The Threefold Conspiracy 6 of 6)

PZO2105 Pathfinder Advanced Player's Guide + Special Edition
PZO9306 Pathfinder Lost Omens: Legends
PZO90157 Pathfinder Adventure Path #157: Devil at the Dreaming Palace (Agents of Edgewatch 1 of 6)

Dark Archive

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Okay, this month the only pdf unavailable this time is legends book :'D If anybody knows workaround around this that allows met o buy it anyway, please tell me!

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CorvusMask wrote:
Okay, this month the only pdf unavailable this time is legends book :'D If anybody knows workaround around this that allows met o buy it anyway, please tell me!

I poked some things on the product, and restarted my browser to test it, and I think it should be working now. If not, it will have to wait until someone else can try poking more things.


This is great news.


Sara Marie wrote:

I went through the following products and looked for subscriber copies of the following books which were not in sidecarts and not marked as having been processed for shipping & fulfilled, and added the corresponding PDF to the customer's digital asset. Unfortunately this is a product search and not a person search, so folks who have subscribed to multiple lines may have gotten multiple notifications for the various PDFs.

PZO7114 Starfinder Starship Operations Manual
PZO7230 Starfinder Adventure Path #30: Puppets Without Strings (The Threefold Conspiracy 6 of 6)

PZO2105 Pathfinder Advanced Player's Guide + Special Edition
PZO9306 Pathfinder Lost Omens: Legends
PZO90157 Pathfinder Adventure Path #157: Devil at the Dreaming Palace (Agents of Edgewatch 1 of 6)

Thanks so much Sara (especially working at midnight!). It's a shame it can't be automated, but as ever Customer Service are an exceptional group of people. :)


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Pathfinder Accessories, Rulebook Subscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber

Thank you Sara Marie! Woke up to an email for Legends only and was confused. Checked my digital assets and both Legends and Advanced player guide are there!

Came here and saw your post, appreciate everything you guys do on the back end. Really hope things can get back to normalish for you peeps with next month being a lighter month for products.


Hi Sara,
Does that mean the PDFs should be released? If so, my subscription wasn't.

Thanks for all the work!

Liberty's Edge

Hooray

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