Is an apparatus considered a misc magic item or a monster?

[sleepingdragon]

I would seriously love to submit an item that just came to me, but I need clarification on something.

Is an apparatus (like the legendary apparatus of Kwalish) is considered a misc magic item or a monster?

I just want to make sure I'm following the rules. :)

[Mikko Kallio]

It's a bit of a borderline case, I guess. In 2012, Steve Miller submitted a wagon and made it to the top 32.

A risky choice for sure, but sometimes its worth the risk. Sometimes.

EDIT: Oh oh oh, I'm quite sure there was also a submersible in the top 32 many years ago.

[Jarrett Sigler]

The Apparatus of Kwalish was an Artifact in 3.5. Artifact level items are NOT a good idea for this competition.

However, if your looking for an Item Example: I would state the Feather-Tokens are a good example. Feather-Token Tree summons a single tree.

However, I may be drawing parallels only I can see. Sometimes I do that, and it really hurts my chances when my scope isn't grounded.

My unwarranted Advice: Send this item you just thought of to someone, and the item you originally were going to submit.

Look at the feedback you get from both items. If you still feel strongly about your item: submit it.

However, at this point your item MAY be Disqualified because if your item is the ONLY apparatus; it's pretty easy to identify that it was you. Which would be a dang shame considering you just wanted clarification. Just want to see you do as well as you can. Last year, it seems there is someone DQ'd for nearly revealing the item they are talking about, OR the item the item they submitted on the forums.

[Mike Kimmel]

The apparatus of the crab (as it was renamed in Pathfinder) is indeed a wondrous item, so similar items could also be wondrous items.

[Owen K. C. Stephens]

Mike Kimmel wrote:

The apparatus of the crab (as it was renamed in Pathfinder) is indeed a wondrous item, so similar items could also be wondrous items.

Correct.

[Eric Morton]

Suggestion for future contestants:

If you have a very specific question like this about an item you want to submit, have one of your friends post the question on your behalf (or just say that you're asking on behalf of some unspecified person you know so no one knows for sure who submitted your item if they see it).

Of course, the OP might decide to submit something entirely different, and if we do see an apparatus when voting, it might be one inspired by the OP's question, not one submitted by the OP...

[Johannes Gutenberg]

I am entering a printing press, that is an apparatus, yes?

[Pirate Captain]

Yarr. I be enterin' an apparatus too. aye.

[Zanta Claws]

Kekeke, my Apparatus of Sleighing will slaughter the competition!

[Captain McBadAss]

Mythic Kwalish Apparatus of Awesomeness and Narwhals incoming!

[Celestial Dolphin on Dry Land]

Perhaps... an apparatus... that lets one... breathe on land would... do well this year...

[Door-Opener the Pony on Stairs]

Oh! Oh! I know! How about an apparatus that can be used to open doors and trigger traps and such. I'd like to no longer be subjected to untold torments every time I'm summoned.

[Bulletin Board]

Notice to the public: Over 63 apparatuses have been said to have been entered in this year's competition. There's no telling how many or whose will be culled. Good luck to all!

[Hostile NPC]

Well this is just great, now my item doesn't feel cool enough, I better make a blasted apparatus too if I wanna compete.

[Template Fu]

How about an apparatus that makes apparatuses ?

[sleepingdragon]

Thanks fellow Spartacuses :)

[frank gori]

I AM SPARTICUS err I submitted an Apparatus!

[sleepingdragon]

Hostile NPC wrote:

Well this is just great, now my item doesn't feel cool enough, I better make a blasted apparatus too if I wanna compete.

Just make sure it has [bender]blackjack and hookers[/bender]

[Joel Flank]

So are all of those submissions Sparartuses?

[Dieben]

Hover your cursor over the names. A textbox will appear with the name of the alias' owner.

[Jarrett Sigler]

Dear RPG superstar community.

Never change.

-an admiring fan.

[Eric Morton]

Is a cowbell an apparatus?

If so, I've got a fever, and the only cure is more apparatus.

[Wren Brown]

I think a cowbell is just a normal item - or a wondrous item if magical.

Now a crazy contraption to automatically ring cowbells would be be an apparatus! Not to mention amazing.

[Mike Kimmel]

Someone needs to make a figurine of wondrous power: apparatus.

[sleepingdragon]

Back in 2nd edition adnd, I built a gnome professor with an automatic cheese grater as a weapon.

While it won't be submitted for my entry, I will present it for inspiration for any and all who need some. :)

[Garrick Williams]

Wondrous items are usually everyday items made magical that aren't weapons and armor.

[Anti-Lisa]

Because a Goblin Skull Bomb is totally an everyday item.

[Murderhobo Union Representative]

Anti-Lisa wrote:

Because a Goblin Skull Bomb is totally an everyday item.

Yes. Yes it is.

[Civil Forfeiture Officer]

Alright everyone, I need to ask you to step away from your apparatuses. I am seizing them under reasonable suspicion of criminal activity. Since I have no idea what any of these newfangled apparatuses are supposed to do, one of you shall spend any standard actions until I have collected all of these apparatuses and stowed them lawfully away.

[DC 90 Stealth Check]

Oh no. I'll be stepping out now. disappears with her apparatus

[Zanta Claws]

"Ho ho NO!" Sleighs away, stopping only to hit grandmothers.

[Rolf Rolf Tollwut the Convict]

"Oh no! I'm on parole!" Flees the scene by turning into a wolf.

[Wren Brown]

The voices in your head feeling chatty today, Dieben?

[Mario the Plumber]

"Ohhh nooo! Mamma mia, itsa tha coppas! Let'sa go!" Jumps into his green pipe apparatus and sinks underground.

[Dieben]

Russ Brown wrote:

The voices in your head feeling chatty today, Dieben?

I submitted my item and I'm feeling anxious, trying to let loose a little in an area that it seems to be okay to do so, within reason. This also presents an opportunity to interact more with other entrants in a casual, lighthearted manner.

[Mwangi Inquisitor]

Oh no! What ever will we do?

[Kool Aid Man]

OH YEAAHHHH!
Smashes through his brick wall apparatus.

[sleepingdragon]

Civil Forfeiture Officer wrote:

Alright everyone, I need to ask you to step away from your apparatuses. I am seizing them under reasonable suspicion of criminal activity. Since I have no idea what any of these newfangled apparatuses are supposed to do, one of you shall spend any standard actions until I have collected all of these apparatuses and stowed them lawfully away.

you can pry my big red button from my cold dead hands. :x

(note it doesn't do anything, I just like the big red button). :p.

[Scott LaBarge]

Filigree, step aside. There's a new meme in town.

[Wren Brown]

Okay now I have to add filigree to my cowbell ringing aparatus! And runes, it definitely needs runes. Runes - out of which will spew buckets of gore and vomit.

[Eric Morton]

Russ Brown wrote:

Okay now I have to add filigree to my cowbell ringing aparatus! And runes, it definitely needs runes. Runes - out of which will spew buckets of gore and vomit.

*takes notes*

My torc torquing apparatus needs all of these features.

[Acronymphomaniac]

Eric Morton wrote:

Russ Brown wrote:

Okay now I have to add filigree to my cowbell ringing aparatus! And runes, it definitely needs runes. Runes - out of which will spew buckets of gore and vomit.

*takes notes*

My torc torquing apparatus needs all of these features.

My torc twerking apparatus needs all of these features.

FTFY

[Anthony Adam]

Scott LaBarge wrote:

Filigree, step aside. There's a new meme in town.

But, but, but, wasn't it Torcs last year ? :P

Heh heh, I see I'm not the only one reliving the torc-ing nightmare...

[Feros]

OK, so if I'm reading this thread right:

We need a twerking apparatus of torc torqueing covered in runes constructed of decorative filigree which adjusts any torqued torc to cause the wearer to vomit gore.

Is that about right?

[Thomas LeBlanc]

Feros wrote:

OK, so if I'm reading this thread right:

We need a twerking apparatus of torc torqueing covered in runes constructed of decorative filigree which adjusts any torqued torc to cause the wearer to vomit gore.

Is that about right?

I think causing the wearer to bleed infected blood and giving the wearer an explosive diarrhea attack that makes any creature within 30 feet nauseous and the target themselves vomit, is better than the wearer just vomiting gore.

[ℬaphomet]

Thomas LeBlanc wrote:

Feros wrote:

OK, so if I'm reading this thread right:

We need a twerking apparatus of torc torqueing covered in runes constructed of decorative filigree which adjusts any torqued torc to cause the wearer to vomit gore.

Is that about right?

I think causing the wearer to bleed infected blood and giving the wearer an explosive diarrhea attack that makes any creature within 30 feet nauseous and the target themselves vomit, is better than the wearer just vomiting gore.

Have the vomit give off a smokey/whispy dark aura that looks like shadows, but totally isn't. Also, let it glow ominously.

[Jeff Lee]

ℬaphomet wrote:

Thomas LeBlanc wrote:

Feros wrote:

OK, so if I'm reading this thread right:

We need a twerking apparatus of torc torqueing covered in runes constructed of decorative filigree which adjusts any torqued torc to cause the wearer to vomit gore.

Is that about right?

I think causing the wearer to bleed infected blood and giving the wearer an explosive diarrhea attack that makes any creature within 30 feet nauseous and the target themselves vomit, is better than the wearer just vomiting gore.

Have the vomit give off a smokey/whispy dark aura that looks like shadows, but totally isn't. Also, let it glow ominously.

Don't forget it needs to have some really bad effect that makes the wearer wonder why they took the item in the first place, like..."if the rune-filigreed twerking torc-torquing apparatus of death runs out of charges while you are wearing it, you must eat your face as an immediate action, causing 6 Charisma drain."

[Curaigh]

Figurine of Wondrous Power: bovine apparatus
Aura strong illusion and transmustion; CL 1Zth
Slot none; Price 560 gp; Weight 1 em-dash
Description
This figurine appears to be a miniature statuette carved of inky blackness and billowing cloaks an inch or so high. When the figurine is tossed down and the correct command word spoken ("MooOOoo"), it becomes a living creature of normal size. The creature obeys and serves its owner. Unless stated otherwise, the creature understands Common but does not speak. It is really bad at spelling too, but does ok with grammar.

Bovine apparatus: When animated, a bovine apparatus acts in all ways like normal longhorn cattle except its horns are actually earthbreakers. The item can be used twice per week to ring a filigreed bell hanging from the torque on the cow's gear-laden & blind-folded head. Ringing the bell cuts a hole in space from which the rest of its herd appears. All areas the herd moves through become difficult terrain. When 6 hours have passed or when the command word is spoken, the bovine once again becomes a tiny statuette.
Construction
Requirements Craft Wondrous Item, animate object, move earth, Cost 2550 sp

OK. I have now created 10 magic items in the last 7 days. While this is not the worst, it still beats most of them.

[The black raven]

Regrettably, Curaigh, your item apparently uses the proper construction feat. I am sorry to tell you that it cannot enter the Utterly Wrong In All Ways Item contest :-(

Keep at it though. Who knows, maybe next year (or sometimes earlier, who knows these days) you might be the one to check all the wrong boxes ;-)

[Tripp Elliott]

Feros wrote:

OK, so if I'm reading this thread right:

We need a twerking apparatus of torc torqueing covered in runes constructed of decorative filigree which adjusts any torqued torc to cause the wearer to vomit gore.

Is that about right?

I'm pretty sure it needs 24 hours to attune to its user.