Pathfinder Player Core 2

Still unsure if dragonblood will gain darkvision or resistance.

This book has 40 archetypes. Does anyone know how many game out in the 2e Advanced Player's Guide?

This book has 40 archetypes. Does anyone know how many game out in the 2e Advanced Player's Guide?

Just looked through my APG. There were 38 + 4 multiclass for 42 total.

I believe Dragon Disciple isn’t in this as its too OGL. Part of the reason for the Dragonblood versatile heritage to allow the same feel.

I believe Dragon Disciple isn’t in this as its too OGL. Part of the reason for the Dragonblood versatile heritage to allow the same feel.

Logan Bonner did confirm that Dragon Disciple was not returning in Player Core 2 in the Discord spoilers from PaizoCon. They're unfortunately a casualty of moving away from the OGL.

The dragon elements in the Dragonblood versatile heritage seems to be taking from the Kobold's draconic ancestry features, as they mentioned as such during the Remaster Project panel at PaizoCon. Maybe there'll be something akin to some of the feats from Dragon Disciple too, but they'd need to be re-balanced, given they'll now cost ancestry feats instead of class feats.

If we have PF2E Society Dragon Disciples, we should be able to keep them, correct?

Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:

What information do we have on the dragon folk heritage?

The Dragonblood versatile heritage will be very customizable. You can choose how dragon-looking you are (ranging from "basically a humanoid with a dragon for a head, to just having horns and draconic eyes, and everything else in-between). There'll be 4 lineages to choose, one of each magical tradition (Arcane, Divine, Occult and Primal). And a fair bit of the Kobold's draconic features were ported over and adjusted for the Dragonblood.

So everything from Dragonborn (D&D) to Dragonborn (Skyrim). Cool!

If we have PF2E Society Dragon Disciples, we should be able to keep them, correct?

As far as we know, yep!

Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:

If we have PF2E Society Dragon Disciples, we should be able to keep them, correct?

As far as we know, yep!

Yes. The PFS rule is that things that were not reprinted in Remaster Core can be used as is (unless errataed of course).

Ezekieru wrote:

Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:

If we have PF2E Society Dragon Disciples, we should be able to keep them, correct?

As far as we know, yep!

Yes. The PFS rule is that things that were not reprinted in Remaster Core can be used as is (unless errataed of course).

Grazie

Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:

If we have PF2E Society Dragon Disciples, we should be able to keep them, correct?

As far as we know, yep!

Gracias

Order status: pending! Very excited for the Alchemist and Oracle.

Order status: pending! Very excited for the Alchemist and Oracle.

And so it begins.

Possible oversight:
Powerful Alchemy alchemist feature raises the DC of the item to the alchemist's Class DC, but not the level. This means the Incapacitation from poisons like Lethargy Poison will still apply, even if the Alchemist is higher level than the creature making the save.

I love the Investigator changes that I've seen so far!

But I do have a couple of thoughts for future errata.

• Devise a Stratagem still lists the sap separately even though it is an agile melee weapon and so was already included in that category. Somehow this unnecessary text survived a reprint of the APG and now also the remaster.

• And it would be nice if ranged unarmed attacks got added to the Devise a Stratagem list like it did for Sneak Attack. DaS with Leshy seedpods sounds like fun. :)

I’m seeing people say that Deer and Frog Barbarians lost reach, which is great… but from AMAs it looks like the Frog’s Tongue is still 1d4 instead of 1d6 like every other agile secondary attack. Am I missing something here, or are they still being charged for reach (unlike Deer which never was) while getting nothing?

I’m hoping I’m mistaken or it’s on the list of future pc2 errata.

Still unsure if dragonblood will gain darkvision or resistance.

Neither. I saw a video by Badluck Gamer today that mentions the Dragonblood. They get a crit success on a roll with normal success for a save versus Fear effects. They also gain the Dragonblood trait, add Draconic to the list of their Ancestry’s known languages (so you may select it as a bonus language if you’re allowed any), and their rarity is Uncommon.

Paizo, I love you ok. I really do, you’ve been doing so well with the remastered. But tell me why Lizardfolk aren’t able to trip with their tails still. They still have the old flexible tail feature that doesn’t let anything happen with checks. They already can hit and dangle with their own tails, why not just let them trip? How is a small tailed goblin able to trip but the medium sized scaly lizard tail can’t?

Maybe the goblin's tail is longer than the lizard's. :-)

Any idea when the PDF will be available to preorder? Just want something I can autosearch

Me Chomper want new barbarian so me Chomper can be T-Rex animal.

Any idea when the PDF will be available to preorder? Just want something I can autosearch

I don't think that's a thing (aside from having a subscription). I've always had to wait until the pdf is released to buy it.

Maybe the goblin's tail is longer than the lizard's. :-)

That would be crazy especially by comparing official art lol I feel like a giant crocodile tail is able to trip me over that skinny tail

When will the PDF be available for those of us who have a subscription? Is it in two weeks(August 1st) or will it be sooner? Some of the videos covering the new stuff have made it sound like the book is already available. It's made me SUPER confused, though honestly, confused is a fairly common feeling for me!

When will the PDF be available for those of us who have a subscription? Is it in two weeks(August 1st) or will it be sooner? Some of the videos covering the new stuff have made it sound like the book is already available. It's made me SUPER confused, though honestly, confused is a fairly common feeling for me!

Your PDF will be available when you physical copy ships. That's a process that usually takes a while, so you may see people get their PDFs before you get yours. (Their books were just earlier in the shipping cue.)

Will we get any official guidance on what traditions previously released dragons corresponds to? It's kinda obvious for some dragons, and a bit more difficult for other ones.

It sounds like the Dragonblooded get full flight at Level 9 - faster than any of the other versatile heritages. I hope that the sylph at least will get errata'd to match that pace - as spirits of the air they seem like they have the best justification out of anyone.

It sounds like the Dragonblooded get full flight at Level 9 - faster than any of the other versatile heritages.

Pointing that errata'd Strix and Sprite also gets full flight faster than before (except number of feats)

Sylph might be level 5 or level 13 full flight instead

Will we get any official guidance on what traditions previously released dragons corresponds to? It's kinda obvious for some dragons, and a bit more difficult for other ones.

Obvious: Primal dragons like Cloud

Difficult: OGL related dragons

ornathopter wrote:

It sounds like the Dragonblooded get full flight at Level 9 - faster than any of the other versatile heritages.

Pointing that errata'd Strix and Sprite also gets full flight faster than before (except number of feats)

Sylph might be level 5 or level 13 full flight instead

Yes, but they're full ancestries, not versatile heritages. Back when that errata first came out, speculation was that the new standard would be that flight-capable ancestries would get feats for it at 1/5/9, and versatile heritages would remain at 17 (because the planar scions and nephilim didn't get any errata to get it sooner.) Now we have Dragonblooded, which is on par with the ancestries, so clearly that's not what Paizo is going for. So, with that in mind, I'm hoping that the air planar scions get an errata so that they can also get flight faster, as it's very fitting for them.

I believe Dragon Disciple isn’t in this as its too OGL. Part of the reason for the Dragonblood versatile heritage to allow the same feel.

Just circling back now I've got my copy: Other casualties are the Loremaster and Shadowdancer.

Paul Watson wrote:

I believe Dragon Disciple isn’t in this as its too OGL. Part of the reason for the Dragonblood versatile heritage to allow the same feel.

Just circling back now I've got my copy: Other casualties are the Loremaster and Shadowdancer.

And Horizon Walker, as well. Those four are not in Player Core 2.

Paul Watson wrote:

Paul Watson wrote:

I believe Dragon Disciple isn’t in this as its too OGL. Part of the reason for the Dragonblood versatile heritage to allow the same feel.

Just circling back now I've got my copy: Other casualties are the Loremaster and Shadowdancer.

And Horizon Walker, as well. Those four are not in Player Core 2.

Heh... called it. I think we all knew that would be the case.

As those were all originally D&D prestige classes, it makes sense that they would not survive the OGL cleansing.

Your PDF will be available when you physical copy ships. That's a process that usually takes a while, so you may see people get their PDFs before you get yours. (Their books were just earlier in the shipping cue.)

As I said, the people I've seen that have ARE content creators, I know they get them early but I'm not sure how much earlier.

Also, why don't PDFs just all go out at the same time?! It seems like THAT would make the most sense! Whatever, it looks like I should have it shortly and before I start playing with my new group.

Ezekieru wrote:

Paul Watson wrote:

Paul Watson wrote:

I believe Dragon Disciple isn’t in this as its too OGL. Part of the reason for the Dragonblood versatile heritage to allow the same feel.

Just circling back now I've got my copy: Other casualties are the Loremaster and Shadowdancer.

And Horizon Walker, as well. Those four are not in Player Core 2.

Heh... called it. I think we all knew that would be the case.

My Spirit Barbarian Shadowdancer is feeling very conflicted.

Any Scrounger change or NO change?

On my way to ask for a PC3 with the premaster themed books player options so we can complete the 2.5 edition

Any Scrounger change or NO change?

"Additionally, you don’t need a physical formula book to remember all of your formulas; you pay the same cost as normal to learn them, but you memorize them all."

Seems to be the same as the Pre-Remaster version.

My Subscription Order is still "Pending" (for 10 days now). Can I get an update?

First thing I checked: Alchemist Goggles; fixed yay!

My Subscription Order is still "Pending" (for 10 days now). Can I get an update?

No.

First thing I checked: Alchemist Goggles; fixed yay!

How were they broken?

Calcryx666 wrote:

First thing I checked: Alchemist Goggles; fixed yay!

How were they broken?

the +1 item bonus to attack rolls was negated by higher level bombs

Replacement of Magical Trickster?

Not in this book.

Replacement of Magical Trickster?

Whatever that is(as thinking the Rogue Racket at first but then my brain said there's a feat by that name) as per rulings made the Pathfinder Society, if something hasn't been reprinted it can be used as is, see previous talks in last couple of pages of this thread about Dragon Disciple archetype for more info.

Page 237, in the "Spell Traits" box, is "Spells with the manipulate trait require you to physically use a locus or make definitive gestures." Should that read "focus" instead of "locus"?

I don't have the source but I think it was confirmed, "locus" is thr new non OGL name for a casting implementation not consumed by the spell.

I don't have the source but I think it was confirmed, "locus" is thr new non OGL name for a casting implementation not consumed by the spell.

Yep.

Some spells require you to pay a cost or provide a locus. If the spell lists a cost, you must have the listed money, valuable materials, or other resources to cast the spell (such as gems or magical reagents), and they’re expended during the casting.

A locus is an object that funnels or directs the magical energy of the spell but is not consumed in its casting. As part of Casting the Spell, you retrieve the locus (if necessary, and if you have a free hand), and you can put it away again if you so choose. Loci tend to be expensive, and you need to acquire them in advance to cast the spell, but they aren’t expended like costs are. Unless noted otherwise, a locus has negligible Bulk.