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keftiu wrote:Yes, there are, but not for the newer classesEd Reppert wrote:Speaking of iconics, Paizo has stepped away from providing character sheets for these guys. Can anyone explain why?There are pregens for all of the core and APG classes, I believe.
They've described the corebook, APG, first two or three Bestiaries, and GMG as the books they assume every table has access to, and that everything else beyond that (so things like Secrets of Magic and Guns & Gears) as being supplemental. I assume that's why there's no pregens for the later classes.

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Alex Speidel wrote the reasons they aren't making new pregens a while ago.

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CorvusMask wrote:That is typo right?Course not. Hell hath no fury like a love-scorned lich. Their soul cage is actually their still living heart kept inside of their chest; which, with every beat, suffuses their undead being with potent necromantic energy. This makes them incredibly powerful,but infinitely more vulnerable, as one if when they put their heart on the line.
This also gives me inspiration for a mummy lich, whose soul cage is actually multiple canopic jars, for which they keep their still living organs in, which supplies them with ludicrous power. After all, postive energy does fall into necromancy.
Make it happen Jason.
Well there was the Lichloved Feat in 3rd edition so there's basis.

Ly'ualdre |

Ly'ualdre wrote:Well there was the Lichloved Feat in 3rd edition so there's basis.CorvusMask wrote:That is typo right?Course not. Hell hath no fury like a love-scorned lich. Their soul cage is actually their still living heart kept inside of their chest; which, with every beat, suffuses their undead being with potent necromantic energy. This makes them incredibly powerful,but infinitely more vulnerable, as one if when they put their heart on the line.
This also gives me inspiration for a mummy lich, whose soul cage is actually multiple canopic jars, for which they keep their still living organs in, which supplies them with ludicrous power. After all, postive energy does fall into necromancy.
Make it happen Jason.
Ah man, the nostalgia. That feat would actually be very fitting for Iezebel and her.... ummm.... proclivities....
Romance takes some pretty extreme forms when your faith in the Lady of Graves ends up stealing your one true love; so you turn to necromancy and raise him from the dead as a zombie.
Also reminds me, I never finished reading the Book of Vile Darkness. Lol

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Are there new character backgrounds in this book? I really appreciated those in both Secrets of Magic and Guns & Gears (even if they weren't a major part of the marketing), and I can totally see in my mind's eye sections for undead-related living backgrounds, and backgrounds appropriate specifically for undead PCs.

Aaron Shanks Marketing & Media Manager |
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Are there new character backgrounds in this book? I really appreciated those in both Secrets of Magic and Guns & Gears (even if they weren't a major part of the marketing), and I can totally see in my mind's eye sections for undead-related living backgrounds, and backgrounds appropriate specifically for undead PCs.
Yes, about a page and a half of backgrounds, like grave robber and haunted citizen, and including rare backgrounds like scion of slayers.

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RiverMesa wrote:Are there new character backgrounds in this book? I really appreciated those in both Secrets of Magic and Guns & Gears (even if they weren't a major part of the marketing), and I can totally see in my mind's eye sections for undead-related living backgrounds, and backgrounds appropriate specifically for undead PCs.Yes, about a page and a half of backgrounds, like grave robber and haunted citizen, and including rare backgrounds like scion of slayers.
Buffy? :)

Ly'ualdre |
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Aaron Shanks wrote:Buffy? :)RiverMesa wrote:Are there new character backgrounds in this book? I really appreciated those in both Secrets of Magic and Guns & Gears (even if they weren't a major part of the marketing), and I can totally see in my mind's eye sections for undead-related living backgrounds, and backgrounds appropriate specifically for undead PCs.Yes, about a page and a half of backgrounds, like grave robber and haunted citizen, and including rare backgrounds like scion of slayers.
I was thinking more...
"I'm Trevor F****** Belmont!"

Gisher |

Gisher wrote:Aaron Shanks wrote:Buffy? :)RiverMesa wrote:Are there new character backgrounds in this book? I really appreciated those in both Secrets of Magic and Guns & Gears (even if they weren't a major part of the marketing), and I can totally see in my mind's eye sections for undead-related living backgrounds, and backgrounds appropriate specifically for undead PCs.Yes, about a page and a half of backgrounds, like grave robber and haunted citizen, and including rare backgrounds like scion of slayers.I was thinking more...
"I'm Trevor F****** Belmont!"
Or, perhaps, Guillermo de la Cruz? :)

Ly'ualdre |

Golarion does not have an equivalent to St. Kargoth or Lord Soth does it?
If you mean a Deathknight, the Pathfinder equivalent are Graveknights. They won't be player options however.

Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti |

Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:Golarion does not have an equivalent to St. Kargoth or Lord Soth does it?If you mean a Deathknight, the Pathfinder equivalent are Graveknights. They won't be player options however.
I am aware of the nomenclatuer difference between PF and D and D. However, D and D has epic undead warriors, I was asking if PF did as well.

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Do we know the names of all archetypes in the book? I remember a few of them spoiled here, such as the Undead Master, but was wondering if we got a list during Paizo Live...
We did not supply a list on Paizo LIVE. At this point and I am saving content so I can let high profile media each showcase a chapter.

Ly'ualdre |
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Ly'ualdre wrote:I am aware of the nomenclatuer difference between PF and D and D. However, D and D has epic undead warriors, I was asking if PF did as well.Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:Golarion does not have an equivalent to St. Kargoth or Lord Soth does it?If you mean a Deathknight, the Pathfinder equivalent are Graveknights. They won't be player options however.
There are a number of named Graveknights or groups that are fairly interesting, like Seldeg Bhedlis, fallen Knight of Ozum and member of the the Council Libertine (group of graveknights responsible for serving, protecting, and imprisoning Arazni); or Lictor Enwar Shokneir, leader of the Hellknight Order of the Crux (which is only comprised of 3 Graveknights, including himself). But none are quite as relevant or influential as say the Lich Tar-Baphon. There are also likely a great many undead creatures that fit the bill, or have specific individuals within their ranks who belong/ed to knightly orders. Can't think of any off the top of my head, however.
Do we know the names of all archetypes in the book? I remember a few of them spoiled here, such as the Undead Master, but was wondering if we got a list during Paizo Live...
They did reveal the Reanimator Archetype during Paizo Live. Aside from that, no others were revealed. We do know there is also a kind of "hallowed necromancer" I believe, but the name hasn't been revealed.

Ly'ualdre |
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That suggests there is either a singular additional Dhampir option in the book or they are mentioned once in relation to Vampires.
EDIT: OR!!! Or... third hopeful option, there is a blurb in the Vampire Archetype section that talks about Dhampir being able to take certain Vampire Archetype Feats somehow... That would be pretty cool.

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That suggests there is either a singular additional Dhampir option in the book or they are mentioned once in relation to Vampires.
EDIT: OR!!! Or... third hopeful option, there is a blurb in the Vampire Archetype section that talks about Dhampir being able to take certain Vampire Archetype Feats somehow... That would be pretty cool.
I would see it the other way around : Vampire archetype can take Dhampir feats as Ancestry feats.

Ly'ualdre |

Ly'ualdre wrote:I would see it the other way around : Vampire archetype can take Dhampir feats as Ancestry feats.That suggests there is either a singular additional Dhampir option in the book or they are mentioned once in relation to Vampires.
EDIT: OR!!! Or... third hopeful option, there is a blurb in the Vampire Archetype section that talks about Dhampir being able to take certain Vampire Archetype Feats somehow... That would be pretty cool.
Eh. While there is certainly bound to be some overlap where it makes sense, like Old Soul, Form of the Bat, or even Vampire Lore; there are too many Dhampir Feats, imo, that relies too heavily on their being a still living creature, what their half-dead lineage is, or the developing vampiric physiology and abilities that a typical Vampire is likely to already. So I don't believe they would translate as well as a Dhampir being able to take Feats from their proginator.
EDIT: I also feel it would be kind of odd for a Class Archetype to grant access to Ancestry Feats. Less so the other way around. Like, I imagine a Dhampir having a Feat (or Heritage) called "Vampireic Paragon" where they are granted the Dedication Feat for the Vampire Archetype, and then granted access to certain Feats in its Archetype chain that make sense, while adding the caveat that they are either not considered Undead any more than they normally would be as a Dhampir -or- they skew closer to their Undead progenator and therefore are affected more by those effects that target Undead. Similar to how the Ancient Elf Heritage grants the character a Multiclass Dedication.

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BTW how do you spell the nightshades' new name? :O
OH YES! I am also curious about this as well.
My absolute favorite Undead, the kind made from Fiends.Also Do we have confirmation about whether or not Blood Magic was moved to this book or Dark Archive?
The themes from either of these books fits Blood Magic.

Ly'ualdre |
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Chapters 2 and 4 have now been assigned to the media for deep-dive previews. I don't think we will assign the adventure chapter. :)
I volunteer as tribute. Can't wait to diiiii-ve right in. Yea. Di(v)e...

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Aaron Shanks wrote:Chapters 2 and 4 have now been assigned to the media for deep-dive previews. I don't think we will assign the adventure chapter. :)I volunteer as tribute. Can't wait to diiiii-ve right in. Yea. Di(v)e...
you volunteer as tribute I volunteer as tribute we all volunteer at tribute :D

Aaron Shanks Marketing & Media Manager |
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Aaron Shanks wrote:Chapters 2 and 4 have now been assigned to the media for deep-dive previews.Great! Is there any specific time frame in which we can expect to see these previews?
Before Subscribers get their PDFS in early April. Chapters 1 and 3 have also been assigned. We will not spoil the adventure. ;)

belgrath9344 |
EldritchGrace wrote:Before Subscribers get their PDFS in early April. Chapters 1 and 3 have also been assigned. We will not spoil the adventure. ;)Aaron Shanks wrote:Chapters 2 and 4 have now been assigned to the media for deep-dive previews.Great! Is there any specific time frame in which we can expect to see these previews?
can we see how the vampire archetype functions pretty please? :)

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Aaron Shanks wrote:can we see how the vampire archetype functions pretty please? :)EldritchGrace wrote:Before Subscribers get their PDFS in early April. Chapters 1 and 3 have also been assigned. We will not spoil the adventure. ;)Aaron Shanks wrote:Chapters 2 and 4 have now been assigned to the media for deep-dive previews.Great! Is there any specific time frame in which we can expect to see these previews?
The spam just above seems a good example of how the vampire archetype functions when applied to a post ;-D

Aaron Shanks Marketing & Media Manager |
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Aaron Shanks wrote:can we see how the vampire archetype functions pretty please? :)EldritchGrace wrote:Before Subscribers get their PDFS in early April. Chapters 1 and 3 have also been assigned. We will not spoil the adventure. ;)Aaron Shanks wrote:Chapters 2 and 4 have now been assigned to the media for deep-dive previews.Great! Is there any specific time frame in which we can expect to see these previews?
I'll be sure to post the exclusive media previews here.

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Will there be a Lich option for the undead eidolon???
Unlikely to be a specific option like that, though that is just a guess. Eidolons typically cover a "type" and you inset all the flavor. So nothing stops you from saying your undead eidolon is a lich, but I don't see there being an option to specifically spell out Lich Eidolon. We'll find out for sure next month :)!

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Know Direction did a preview stream of Chapter 1 last night, in case folks are interested.
(I know for a fact I missed it; Watching it just now, might follow up with edits or another message with some juicy details.)