Wow, nice cover, cybernetic barbarian vs space elf(well half-elf).
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:} *eyes well up with tears*
Android tears after that weird electric sheep dream;)
That lady on the cover looks like she's wondering what she ever did to end up marooned on a world full of sword-toting savages. Very good art and good selection of future tech from the description -- though I hope we get some stuff that is just plain weird. As in, something beings from the Dominion of the Black or the Mi-Go might use.
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Nice cover! Some kind of Kellid barbarian with cybernetic upgrades vs. an elf with similar? (Either that, or she's wearing some kind of technological body armor.)In fact... versus the iconic gunslinger wearing fancy new sci-fi clothes!
She must have also gotten a dye-job in space, considering most depictions of her have brunette (Either brown or black) hair. :P
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She must have also gotten a dye-job in space, considering most depictions of her have brunette (Either brown or black) hair. :PNice cover! Some kind of Kellid barbarian with cybernetic upgrades vs. an elf with similar? (Either that, or she's wearing some kind of technological body armor.)In fact... versus the iconic gunslinger wearing fancy new sci-fi clothes!
Her hair is indeed a bit too red, but as it turns out, changing her clothes makes it even more difficult to tell it's her.
Which is why we very rarely change the armor of our iconics... or indeed, why Superman and Batman and all those superheroes only have one costume.
Nice! Color me excited... well... more excited anyways!
I really like the Gunslinger's new outfit. Also I like her as a redhead a lot more too be honest. Now if we could new sci-fi outfits for Seoni, Lini, etc.
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Redhead, Brunette, Blonde, all of them are hot.
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I'm so going to stat up a technomancer lich.
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Once again, alternative appearances of Lirianne don't turn out well.
"They can't get my hair right."
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powered armor
No, these aren't tears.
I just have something in my eye.
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Too be honest that is the first picture of the iconic gunslinger that I actually like.
I dig the cover!
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In fact... versus the iconic gunslinger wearing fancy new sci-fi clothes!She must have also gotten a dye-job in space, considering most depictions of her have brunette (Either brown or black) hair. :PHer hair is indeed a bit too red, but as it turns out, changing her clothes makes it even more difficult to tell it's her.
Which is why we very rarely change the armor of our iconics... or indeed, why Superman and Batman and all those superheroes only have one costume.
She adventures with an alchemist... he can probably whip up hair dye easy-peasy. There's nothing wrong with a lady deciding to change her hair color.
Or maybe her hair color change is due to a symbiote/symbiont she's wearing?
How about some DOOM monsters as well? Cyberneticly enhanced fiends from the lower planes invading your campaign world? Cause you say HELL YES! ^_^*cough*
I'd hardly call that little guy Doom material Liz. Still, you make a fair point but I'm betting on stuff like Balors or Pit Fiends with a Rocket Launcher for one of their hands!
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I feel that Paizo could sell posters of all the Numeria covers, and they'd sell like hotcakes.
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My body is ready.
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My money is ready.
Glad to see the sky metals will be reprinted in this book:)
I'd hardly call that little guy Doom material Liz. Still, you make a fair point but I'm betting on stuff like Balors or Pit Fiends with a Rocket Launcher for one of their hands!How about some DOOM monsters as well? Cyberneticly enhanced fiends from the lower planes invading your campaign world? Cause you say HELL YES! ^_^*cough*
Pretty sure Liz was pointing out the Cacodaemon because it really was in Doom ;)
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I don't like her twisted pose though. Can anyone actually stand like that without breaking their spine?
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I don't like her twisted pose though. Can anyone actually stand like that without breaking their spine?
Okay I am normally a defender of Paizo's art. I do have to agree, that on closer inspection, this pose is unnatural and uncomfortable to look at. If that was the intent then okay. However I think one small change would make the picture completely okay by me.
If her back had extended more naturally up from where the scarf is wrapped around her waist, instead of the plateau that seems to exist at the back of the scarf, I would have no problems with that pose. It is an actions scene that, aside from that nitpick, I have no problem imagining with any character, male or female.
As drawn it looks like her spine takes two 90 degree turns.
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Well I hope that suit is an actual item in the book. Also it looks like she has both a laser gun and a taser or taser like weapon.
Lirianne in that suit really makes me think of Mass Effect.
I had the same thought myself.
Pathfinder Effect!
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She's Commander Lirianne, and this is her favourite store on theCitadelSilver Mount.
FTFY
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I really like the Gunslinger's new outfit. Also I like her as a redhead a lot more too be honest. Now if we could new sci-fi outfits for Seoni, Lini, etc.
I'm OK with that change , redheads are severely underrepresented with the iconics anyway.
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I agree with you about redheads being underrepresented with the iconics Zaister.
I don't like her twisted pose though. Can anyone actually stand like that without breaking their spine?Okay I am normally a defender of Paizo's art. I do have to agree, that on closer inspection, this pose is unnatural and uncomfortable to look at. If that was the intent then okay. However I think one small change would make the picture completely okay by me.
If her back had extended more naturally up from where the scarf is wrapped around her waist, instead of the plateau that seems to exist at the back of the scarf, I would have no problems with that pose. It is an actions scene that, aside from that nitpick, I have no problem imagining with any character, male or female.
As drawn it looks like her spine takes two 90 degree turns.
Agreed. I much preferred the mockup art.
I also wonder whether there's some in-world technological reason the space suit has to be corset-tight. That looks really uncomfortable and restrictive. I mean, all things being equal, why would anyone wear a suit that tight to adventure in?
EDIT: In light of the 'Hypersexualization' thread I've been reading today, I'd also like to point out that this is one more instance of a sexualized woman fighting a monstrous male.
I also wonder whether there's some in-world technological reason the space suit has to be corset-tight. That looks really uncomfortable and restrictive. I mean, all things being equal, why would anyone wear a suit that tight to adventure in?
Probably the same reason a lot of workout clothing is skintight; it stays out of the way. Loose clothing can get caught on things, or be used against you by an opponent. It can also rub and chafe during extended activity. Tight material across the chest could serve the same purpose as a sports bra, which is definitely something Lirianne appears to need. That much weight bouncing around freely would be painful and distracting. Sometimes, restrictive is a good thing.
As long as it is sufficiently flexible to allow movement - and offers enough protection - skintight is actually a great choice. Of course, for many of the same reasons, she should probably cut her hair, or at least tie it up in a way that's not so easy to grab and pull. And that scarf isn't a great idea either....
Other than that, I agree with many of the criticisms in this thread. The pose used is a fairly common one in fantasy and sci-fi art, and it does tend to look awkward and unrealistic unless the artist is very careful. Since the pose pretty much only exists to increase the sexualization of the character, it's usually a better choice to pick another pose rather than try to make this one work.
I still like the art, though.
Pretty sure Liz was pointing out the Cacodaemon because it really was in Doom ;)
And yet it bares almost NO SIMILARITY to the Cacaodemon FROM the Doom video game series (which was at the very least large sized and could spit fireballs from it's mouth).
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Pretty sure Liz was pointing out the Cacodaemon because it really was in Doom ;)And yet it bares almost NO SIMILARITY to the Cacaodemon FROM the Doom video game series (which was at the very least large sized and could spit fireballs from it's mouth).
Add a couple templates and it could be done—I recommend half-dragon and giant.
Magic to command robots and power technology, sounds interesting.
Now that you say that most of the redheads I have seen in pathfinder are ether monsters or non-good aligned NPCs:(
I also wonder whether there's some in-world technological reason the space suit has to be corset-tight. That looks really uncomfortable and restrictive. I mean, all things being equal, why would anyone wear a suit that tight to adventure in?
Probably the same reason a lot of workout clothing is skintight; it stays out of the way. Loose clothing can get caught on things, or be used against you by an opponent. It can also rub and chafe during extended activity. Tight material across the chest could serve the same purpose as a sports bra, which is definitely something Lirianne appears to need. That much weight bouncing around freely would be painful and distracting. Sometimes, restrictive is a good thing.
As long as it is sufficiently flexible to allow movement - and offers enough protection - skintight is actually a great choice. Of course, for many of the same reasons, she should probably cut her hair, or at least tie it up in a way that's not so easy to grab and pull. And that scarf isn't a great idea either....
Other than that, I agree with many of the criticisms in this thread. The pose used is a fairly common one in fantasy and sci-fi art, and it does tend to look awkward and unrealistic unless the artist is very careful. Since the pose pretty much only exists to increase the sexualization of the character, it's usually a better choice to pick another pose rather than try to make this one work.
I still like the art, though.
That spacesuit isn't sportsbra tight. It's tighter. It individually, separately defines each breast. So, in that sense, it doesn't get anything at all out of the way. That fact, coupled with the strange pose, makes her look all wrong for adventuring. Just sayin'.
Cool, thanks for the info Russ:)
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I also wonder whether there's some in-world technological reason the space suit has to be corset-tight. That looks really uncomfortable and restrictive. I mean, all things being equal, why would anyone wear a suit that tight to adventure in?
It would only be restrictive assuming it wasn't an extremely flexible material, maybe beyond what we currently can make. Body-tight skinsuits have a history in sci-fi. There have even been discussions of using them IRL.
http://www.space.com/24301-astronaut-skinsuit-soothes-space-backaches.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_activity_suit
The potential for greater mobility and simpler operation with a space activity suit make it an attractive choice for fiction, where flexibility of use can be a boon to plot development.
That isn't saying that maybe it's not a little too tight, but then again, skinsuits in fiction generally are, regardless of gender.
Now that you say that most of the redheads I have seen in pathfinder are ether monsters or non-good aligned NPCs:(
Sounds about right in my experience ;)