Variel's WotR

Game Master Neltji

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Male Aasimar (Musetouched) Bloodrager (Urban) 1/Paladin (Virtuoso Bravo) 14 [Champion: 7]

Sorry, I mean down 4 -- not negative 4. ;)

And I have 1 level of Bloodrager. ;)


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

Oh whew! Man I was wondering.

And Bloodrager, okay. Cool.


Cleric of Sarenrae 15 [ HP 121/121 (0 NL)| AC 28 T 17 FF 24| F12 R11 W16 +2 vs Death Effects| CMD 29| Init +11| Perc +7, Darkvision 60' | 8/8 Channel 8d6 DC 22 | Restorative Touch 7/7| Hierophant MR7| MP 17/17 Surge +1d10 | Staff of Healing 4 chg | Effect: ]

I'm under half of my mythic points and I use them for spellcasting fairly heavy, so hopefully we can deal from here in the shape we are in.


Mythic points are over rated. You don’t need those at all.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

Lol! Hey, dragon guy, you be quiet! We don't listen to that kind of nonsense around here!


Male Aasimar (Musetouched) Bloodrager (Urban) 1/Paladin (Virtuoso Bravo) 14 [Champion: 7]

*lol* As someone who's played a Mystic spellcaster, they're like water. In martial, you can make a character with a lot of "always on" powers so you don't blaze through them at warp speed.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness
Ansha Saeralyan wrote:
Ansha's Shape Emotions is still in effect, so +4 to these saves for everyone.

You know, I didn't know that but that is an awesome ability.

Unfortunately, it doesn't matter when you roll a 1. I have yet to post it because I've got to add more to it and plus, there's MORE bad news I'm about to bring everyone.

Not only did I roll a 1, I rolled a 1 on the confused spell. And not only did I roll a 1 on the Confused spell, I rolled an 86 on the d100.

Which means I have to attack one of you and that sucks. Do I treat one of you as an enemy and full attack you? My gosh I sure hope not. Oh man this is the absolute worst.

I'm EXTREMELY sorry about this, folks. I totally hate this. Totally. This is BEYOND bad. Ugh.

Please tell me there's some type of Mythic ability that will allow a reroll? Because I'm not aware of one.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

Well, if there is no reroll, looks like Damiel is the big winner. UGH. I wish everyone was like 30' away from Morgrym. That would've been somewhat helpful.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

UNLESS, I follow Variel's EXACT instruction: Under the Mythic Confusion spoiler it reads: "ACT nearest ally" ;)

So, by that read - and I'm fairly certain it was NOT a typo meant to read "attack" - Morgrym should start acting like Damiel. Huh? Huh? I think as a player I really should not go against what the DM says we should do in such a situation. Hey, I'm just thinking of the game, folks. Trying to be a team player. ;)

(Hey, you can't blame a guy for trying)


Sorry for the ‘confusion’ Morgrym but you are suppose to attack not act the nearest ally.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

Lol! Darn! I sure was hoping... :P


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

Question: Again, I have to "Attacks nearest creature"(I previewed my roll and that's what I got). So, with that being said, I have Damiel next to me and a bad guy next to me.

Which one do I attack? Is the bad guy on the floor or is it still up in the air?

If the bad guy IS on the ground, do I attack both Damiel and the bad guy or what?


Cleric of Sarenrae 15 [ HP 121/121 (0 NL)| AC 28 T 17 FF 24| F12 R11 W16 +2 vs Death Effects| CMD 29| Init +11| Perc +7, Darkvision 60' | 8/8 Channel 8d6 DC 22 | Restorative Touch 7/7| Hierophant MR7| MP 17/17 Surge +1d10 | Staff of Healing 4 chg | Effect: ]

Roll dice.


As you were confused last round and went after Damiel posted, he is technically required to attack you back. Then you would be forced to attack him and the viscous cycle repeats until one is dead on someone casts dispel magic on you.


Rogue (scout) 15/Trickster 7 [hp 136/136 |AC 25 T 19 FF 19 |F7* R18* W8 |CMD 33 |Init +15 |Perc +20 (+24 to avoid being surprised; +24 to overhead conversations/find hidden things; +31 to find traps) Darkvision 120' |MP 17/17 |Surge +1d10 | Conditions:

Damiel’s confusion wasn’t to attack. It was self-harm, then babble. Am I missing something in the spell effect?


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness
DM Variel wrote:
As you were confused last round and went after Damiel posted, he is technically required to attack you back. Then you would be forced to attack him and the viscous cycle repeats until one is dead on someone casts dispel magic on you.

You mean we DON'T roll every round to see what we do? It says this:

"This spell causes confusion in the targets, making them unable to determine their actions. Roll on the following table at the start of each subject’s turn each round to see what it does in that round."

Is it a different type of confusion spell because it's a demon? A more powerful version maybe? A mythic version perhaps? Maybe it's a special ability that works slightly different? Because I've no idea outside of the standard spell.


Female Elf Wizard (Manipulator) 15/Archmage 7 Portrait
PRD wrote:
A confused character who can't carry out the indicated action does nothing but babble incoherently. Attackers are not at any special advantage when attacking a confused character. Any confused character who is attacked automatically attacks its attackers on its next turn, as long as it is still confused when its turn comes. Note that a confused character will not make attacks of opportunity against any creature that it is not already devoted to attacking (either because of its most recent action or because it has just been attacked).

It’s there in the description of the spell.


Cleric of Sarenrae 15 [ HP 121/121 (0 NL)| AC 28 T 17 FF 24| F12 R11 W16 +2 vs Death Effects| CMD 29| Init +11| Perc +7, Darkvision 60' | 8/8 Channel 8d6 DC 22 | Restorative Touch 7/7| Hierophant MR7| MP 17/17 Surge +1d10 | Staff of Healing 4 chg | Effect: ]

And to confirm, this is not an effect we roll saves against each round? Fortunately, Morgrym is in little danger from Damiel and Damiel’s a bot, so…

I am hitting the road for a week, so if I’m slowing things down worse than normal, you are welcome to bot Nasira and Damiel.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness
Ansha Saeralyan wrote:
PRD wrote:
A confused character who can't carry out the indicated action does nothing but babble incoherently. Attackers are not at any special advantage when attacking a confused character. Any confused character who is attacked automatically attacks its attackers on its next turn, as long as it is still confused when its turn comes. Note that a confused character will not make attacks of opportunity against any creature that it is not already devoted to attacking (either because of its most recent action or because it has just been attacked).
It’s there in the description of the spell.

Well that stinks. Okay, well then, should I wait to see if Ansha's dispel magic worked or go ahead and attack Damiel?


Sorry guys but some major storms have hit the last 2 days and trying to get everything cleaned up. Should be back by Wednesday

Your choice Morgrym about waiting for dispel magic or killing Damiel.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

You know, I think I'm gonna go with "Will wait" for 300, Alex. :P


Male Aasimar (Musetouched) Bloodrager (Urban) 1/Paladin (Virtuoso Bravo) 14 [Champion: 7]

Ok, I assumed my aura worked and gave me a +4 in my roll -- if that's correct, could I also use a Surge and actually maybe *succeed* on the roll? (I thought I'd ask here, because if the aura doesn't apply, then even an additional surge die won't get me there).


For certain you can use a surge as a 7+ on the d8 Will succeed. My question is if the effect is truly a charm effect since it suppresses abilities and does not say in the description that it is a charm effect.

Let me look up online to see what the forums say.


Female Elf Wizard (Manipulator) 15/Archmage 7 Portrait

If it doesn't say it's a mind-affecting effect or a charm effect, I would assume it's not. Also, it'd be kind of weird for it to be a charm effect, since it strips immunity to charm effects, and so you could end up in the situation where something immune to charms was immune to having that immunity stripped from it.


Yeah it seems like Ansha is right that it doesn’t call it a charm effect so the aura of resolve won’t work


Male Aasimar (Musetouched) Bloodrager (Urban) 1/Paladin (Virtuoso Bravo) 14 [Champion: 7]

I thought, per the rules:

PRD wrote:
Fascinate is an enchantment (compulsion), mind-affecting ability.

However, I'm willing to accept that we're just all doomed if we don't roll 20s. ;)


Female Elf Wizard (Manipulator) 15/Archmage 7 Portrait

I think it means the fascinated condition, rather than the fascinate bard ability. The bard class ability is definitely an enchantment; the condition is not.

D20PFSRD wrote:
Fascinated: A fascinated creature is entranced by a supernatural or spell effect. The creature stands or sits quietly, taking no actions other than to pay attention to the fascinating effect, for as long as the effect lasts. It takes a –4 penalty on skill checks made as reactions, such as Perception checks. Any potential threat, such as a hostile creature approaching, allows the fascinated creature a new saving throw against the fascinating effect. Any obvious threat, such as someone drawing a weapon, casting a spell, or aiming a ranged weapon at the fascinated creature, automatically breaks the effect. A fascinated creature’s ally may shake it free of the spell as a standard action.

Also here on the AONPRD.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness
Arigoder Senari wrote:

I thought, per the rules:

PRD wrote:
Fascinate is an enchantment (compulsion), mind-affecting ability.

However, I'm willing to accept that we're just all doomed if we don't roll 20s. ;)

Roll your surge, bud. YOU still have a shot at saving. You need a 7 or better. It's a tough shot but it's a shot.


Male Aasimar (Musetouched) Bloodrager (Urban) 1/Paladin (Virtuoso Bravo) 14 [Champion: 7]

Sure, what the heck. Mythic points grow back, after all.


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My wife's 40th birthday tomorrow so no posting till Monday. To celebrate everyone gets an item worth up to 4000gp,


Cleric of Sarenrae 15 [ HP 121/121 (0 NL)| AC 28 T 17 FF 24| F12 R11 W16 +2 vs Death Effects| CMD 29| Init +11| Perc +7, Darkvision 60' | 8/8 Channel 8d6 DC 22 | Restorative Touch 7/7| Hierophant MR7| MP 17/17 Surge +1d10 | Staff of Healing 4 chg | Effect: ]

Happy Birthday to Mrs. Variel!


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

Happy birthday to the wife!


Male Aasimar (Musetouched) Bloodrager (Urban) 1/Paladin (Virtuoso Bravo) 14 [Champion: 7]

Happy birthday!


Male Aasimar (Musetouched) Bloodrager (Urban) 1/Paladin (Virtuoso Bravo) 14 [Champion: 7]

Ok, just to allow Ari to maintain his paranoia, I'll use the birthday item to grab a Ring of Sustenance.


lol Nocticula is so in your head at the moment that you don't trust anything she says or offers.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

Eyes of the eagle for Morgrym. :)


ohhh, adding to perception checks nice


Cleric of Sarenrae 15 [ HP 121/121 (0 NL)| AC 28 T 17 FF 24| F12 R11 W16 +2 vs Death Effects| CMD 29| Init +11| Perc +7, Darkvision 60' | 8/8 Channel 8d6 DC 22 | Restorative Touch 7/7| Hierophant MR7| MP 17/17 Surge +1d10 | Staff of Healing 4 chg | Effect: ]

Given time outside of combat, I can cast restoration six times before we rest.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

Yes indeed. Making it count. :)

So, do we just add that or how's that work exactly?

Also, gang, we still have a bunch of ability damage between the lot of us. Morgrym is down 8. I know multiple others are down some as well.

We seriously need a wand of restoration.


I believe that Nasira can handle all the ability damage lol. Just mark off the gp and all good. Then grab a nap and on we go!

Oh and after you sleep double ding! You are now 14th level and having become notorious and treated with Nocticula without getting killed you are mythic tier 6.


Male Aasimar (Musetouched) Bloodrager (Urban) 1/Paladin (Virtuoso Bravo) 14 [Champion: 7]

Woohoo!


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

Cool! Oh the options to scour through...


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

This is pretty cool out of Mythic Origins: Mortal Herald. But then I found out you've got to do some type of trial or something. Yeah I don't get how you're even suppose to go about that. Pretty freaking cool though.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

Mythic rules

Okay, if you check out the link above, it should lead you straight to Force of Will. Which says is a 7th level ability.

Now if you scroll up just a tiny bit, you'll see a chart with the heading "Base Mythic Abilities".

If you look at the chart and look at the 6th level line, it has Force of Will in it.

So which is it? 7th level or 6th level?


The physical Mythic Adventures sourcebook says Force of Will is 6th tier in both the table and the description (pages 12-13), so that’s just a typo on the AONPRD (also a typo on d20pfsrd, interestingly enough).


Yes 6th tier ability.

Mortal herald is not an option right now unless you pledge yourself to Nocticula and wish to become her herald. Then there are going to be a lot of other considerations to go through outside of what may have already been stated or offered.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness
Ansha wrote:
The physical Mythic Adventures sourcebook says Force of Will is 6th tier in both the table and the description (pages 12-13), so that’s just a typo on the AONPRD (also a typo on d20pfsrd, interestingly enough).

I know, right?! They both say the same thing. Pretty odd.

DM Variel wrote:
Mortal herald is not an option right now unless you pledge yourself to Nocticula and wish to become her herald. Then there are going to be a lot of other considerations to go through outside of what may have already been stated or offered.

Um... Yeah that ain't happening. :P It would definitely be Torag if it's ever any of them.


Male Aasimar (Musetouched) Bloodrager (Urban) 1/Paladin (Virtuoso Bravo) 14 [Champion: 7]

Ok, well, Paladin 13 isn't terribly exciting as levels go - no saves, no abilities, just +1 smite and +1 use per day of the bonded spirit (not even a +1 enchantment).

Mythic 6... Well, the +2 attribute to Dex, (+1 Reflex, +1 AC, and as a finesse dex figther, +1 to hit and damage). Force of Will seems... ok, I guess.

In terms of path ability - I'm not sure.

I think I'll wait 'til I have a +16 BAB before grabbing precision again. (I do like the thought of a +16/+16/+16/+11 BAB, though, looking forward to that)

Ari would certainly do Herald for Iomedae, but that's not an option right now -- and he'd never take on followers of his own as a divine source -- and since there's no ability he has access to that prevents ability drain or lets him hit incorporeals, I guess it's just more fun with combat abilities.

So, either the Universal enhanced ability for another +2 Dex (another +1 to hit and damage and reflex seems nice), or the Champion's Maximized Critical... (and while the first of those is probably more useful as something that's always on... having taken Mythic Improved Critical, the maximize just seems *so* nice).


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

@Arigoder: You mean 14th level, right? I'm guessing 13th was just a mistype? Just making sure you're aware we're 14th level now. :)

You know, I seriously considered precision too. And funny enough, my thoughts mimic your own about waiting until 16th level. That's pretty cool.

Force of Will will be good for Morgrym more so than yourself. Your Will save is awesome unlike mine.

I'm thinking of going with Enhanced Con and probably will. Thought about Maximized Crit, but, I like rolling. I know, weird huh? :)


Male Aasimar (Musetouched) Bloodrager (Urban) 1/Paladin (Virtuoso Bravo) 14 [Champion: 7]

No, it's Paladin 13. I have my 1 level of Bloodrager to keep me warm at night. ;)

Well, I already have precision once -- and I highly recommend it. An attack at -5 isn't bad, but not having the attack at -10 is pretty darn great.

Of course, I also have the mythic ability to full attack after (or before) moving, so it's even snazzier.

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