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				Variel's WotR
				
				Game Master 
					Neltji
				 
					From Level 1 to Level 20. Good luck heroes you might need it. loot list combat map 
  
  
	
	
	
		
			
    
     
				
				
				
					
						
  
  
  
  
    
    
      
      
      
      
  
    
  
      
  
    
      
      
	
	
	
		
			
        
          
            
            
              
            
          
            
            
              
                
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Male Aasimar (Musetouched) Bloodrager (Urban) 1/Paladin (Virtuoso Bravo) 14 [Champion: 7] 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   Well it was a critical.. but yes, I saw.  Sorry, I read the 80 as damage from hitting the barrier -- I like your interpretation way better. ;) 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Male  Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   :) (For our sake, let's hope my interpretation is correct). :P Question: Who needs to save from the strength damage? I'm not entirely sure about that one. 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Cleric of Sarenrae 15 [ HP 121/121 (0 NL)| AC 28 T 17 FF 24| F12 R11 W16 +2 vs Death Effects| CMD 29| Init +11| Perc +7, Darkvision 60'  | 6/8 Channel 8d6 DC 22 | Restorative Touch 7/7| Hierophant MR7| MP 17/17 Surge +1d10 | Staff of Healing 9 chg  | Effect: ] 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   So, metagaming, it appears that the demon's AC is north of 33 or there are resistances in play that allowed him to ignore some of Arigoder's damage. I imagine it is the former. Please keep it off of me... 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Male Aasimar (Musetouched) Bloodrager (Urban) 1/Paladin (Virtuoso Bravo) 14 [Champion: 7] 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   My damage is Holy and epic, so I should be overcoming pretty much all DRs - plus Weapon Versatility, so I can do piercing or bludgeoning if needed.  AC 33, though, seems likely. 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Male  Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   Nasira Yusra Abujamal wrote:  Please keep it off of me...  Gonna try. As long as Morgrym is still standing...
 And yeah, the great thing about smite evil is overcoming all the DR. Wait... are you smiting evil? 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Male Aasimar (Musetouched) Bloodrager (Urban) 1/Paladin (Virtuoso Bravo) 14 [Champion: 7] 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   Nope. That's why I was working from having Holy and epic. ;) But there may be some smiting and bloodraging coming up. 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Male  Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   Oh my gosh this dude is FREAKING bad to the bone. You're doing that kind of damage without smiting? Daaaaaaaang Gina. That's just awesome. Glad you're on OUR team! :) 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
              
                
                   
	
		   Yes 80 damage to it from Arigoder attacks. I see how it was confusing sorry about that. I was trying to add a quick reference to myself and added it to the wrong spot.  Ac is north of 33. Arigoder needs to make the saves as he hit twice. 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Male Aasimar (Musetouched) Bloodrager (Urban) 1/Paladin (Virtuoso Bravo) 14 [Champion: 7] 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   Okay, rolled the fort saves.  In terms of being nasty, the +5 weapon and the +3d6 of Holy damage are a huge help. ;) 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Male  Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   Daaaang, Papa-DRB! More nasty damage but this time from the OTHER new guy. :) Sneak attack damage is SOOOO freaking destructively cool. 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Male  Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   Ansha Saeralyan wrote:  Ansha attempts to escape the webs that are entangling her...and manages to get herself even more entangled. "Ewww. Now it's all in my haaaairrrrr," she whines. "Someone get me out of this!"  Lol! I love it! 
 Surrounded by super-uber destructo demons and the all powerful wizard is disgusted by spider webs in her hair. Lol! Oh man that's so dang funny. :) 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
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		   Nasira Yusra Abujamal wrote:  Go, rock star! This is amazing!  Lol! Man you ain't KIDDIN'! Get 'em, Arigoder! :)
 At least Morgrym won't have to concern himself with Fort saves after "hitting" the demon. ;P 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Male Aasimar (Musetouched) Bloodrager (Urban) 1/Paladin (Virtuoso Bravo) 14 [Champion: 7] 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   Mythic swashbuckling paladins with holy avengers do seem pretty tough.... when the dice are on their side, anyway. 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
              
                
                   
	
		   Don’t worry the dice gods will change and then he will be crying mwuhahaha 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
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		   Lol! Man that's just wrong.  As long as they change for the better for Morgyrm then that'll be fine. ;) 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Male  Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   @Garith: I believe we're up to you, bud. Wait... is Garith still with us? I just checked his alias and did NOT even realize it's been nearly 3 months since he last posted. 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
              
                
                   
	
		   Back at it and update today. Thanks for understanding while I get stuff sorted out at work. Onward to saving the world and closing the Worldwound 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Cleric of Sarenrae 15 [ HP 121/121 (0 NL)| AC 28 T 17 FF 24| F12 R11 W16 +2 vs Death Effects| CMD 29| Init +11| Perc +7, Darkvision 60'  | 6/8 Channel 8d6 DC 22 | Restorative Touch 7/7| Hierophant MR7| MP 17/17 Surge +1d10 | Staff of Healing 9 chg  | Effect: ] 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   Glad to see you back! Onward! 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Male Aasimar (Musetouched) Bloodrager (Urban) 1/Paladin (Virtuoso Bravo) 14 [Champion: 7] 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   No worries, Variel.  Just happy to see you back. 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 CG Male Human rogue 13 Archetype(Scout) / Trickster 5 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   GM, how do you play invisibility, ie. if Damiel is invisible at the beginning of a round and does a full attack does he get sneak attack dice for both attacks, or just the first one. I have seen it done both ways, and am fine with either interpretation. thanks 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
              
                
                   
	
		   I run it as only the first attack gets the invisibility bonus as you appear before your second shot is fired. Many shot would apply though to your rolls as both arrows are fired simultaneously. 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
              
                
                   
	
		   DM Variel wrote: Ansha I really don't like you right now with confusion. I had you right where I wanted you immobile with rending behemoths ready to pounce. I cackled out loud when I read that. Good thing no one was here to hear it but my cats. xD  
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Male  Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   Man, I actually hit twice on those attacks. But then I noticed I had forgotten my save roll. And I just knew I was going to lose one of those hits. If any type rolls need to be made(saves/skills/etc) per the DM, then I make those first and foremost. And if multiple rolls are involved, I go in the order listed. THEN I proceed accordingly. Sure enough...  Ultimately the good news is, I made my save. Bad news is, I hit once instead of twice. The other bad news is, I don't know why I find that so stinking annoying that I made my save and missed twice. Really doesn't make any sense. :P 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Male  Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   DM Variel wrote:  Although a surge might make it...and with mythic power attack it would be a dead bebilith   Nope. Not going to use it. I've only got three left. So I'm just gonna have to eat the miss unfortunately. Gonna depend on my fellow comrades to come through for me. :)  
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
              
                
                   
	
		   Damiel just informed me that he would like to be dropped from the campaign. We will continue on for now and if anyone knows of another that would like to join please inform them there is a position open. 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Male  Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   Well crap. My gosh we can't get anybody to stick around in this one. Such a beating. And I thought Nikolaus de'Shade quitting after only 4 or 5 months was short.  Honestly, Variel, I think we should just roll with the idea that Damiel was never there. I really hate the idea of you - or any of the rest of us for that matter - having to run pc's-turned-npc's. It just turns into work and that's no fun for anyone.  I mean, I got no problem with it.  Obviously however you want to run it is cool. I just thought I'd throw my couple of cents out there.  On another note, I'll see if I can find somebody but most folks I know are pretty much tapped out. But will see. 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Cleric of Sarenrae 15 [ HP 121/121 (0 NL)| AC 28 T 17 FF 24| F12 R11 W16 +2 vs Death Effects| CMD 29| Init +11| Perc +7, Darkvision 60'  | 6/8 Channel 8d6 DC 22 | Restorative Touch 7/7| Hierophant MR7| MP 17/17 Surge +1d10 | Staff of Healing 9 chg  | Effect: ] 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   I can run Damiel. Let me wrap my head around the build... Nasira doesn’t get into much offense, after all. 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Male  Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   Man that sure seems like a ton of work, Pixie. But if you're up to it then by all means. Just tires me out thinking about it. Of course, I'm typically ALL about offense so that would just mean about a thousand more numbers to deal with. I just don't have the energy for it. :P 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
              
                
                   
	
		   I will leave it up to you guys but he can join the group of lackeys (Garith) carrying your stuff for now and we continue in the way we are. You have a solid group already and I won’t have to alter anything for a larger group. 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Cleric of Sarenrae 15 [ HP 121/121 (0 NL)| AC 28 T 17 FF 24| F12 R11 W16 +2 vs Death Effects| CMD 29| Init +11| Perc +7, Darkvision 60'  | 6/8 Channel 8d6 DC 22 | Restorative Touch 7/7| Hierophant MR7| MP 17/17 Surge +1d10 | Staff of Healing 9 chg  | Effect: ] 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   I see Damiel as a ranged threat primarily, something we are largely lacking with the departure of Zeriax. I'd rather give it a try and see if I can't make it work - if it doesn't, he can become a glorified porter. 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
              
                
                   
	
		   Ok sounds like a plan for now. If we find a replacement then we can let him go. Otherwise are you guys heading east or south? 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
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                 Cleric of Sarenrae 15 [ HP 121/121 (0 NL)| AC 28 T 17 FF 24| F12 R11 W16 +2 vs Death Effects| CMD 29| Init +11| Perc +7, Darkvision 60'  | 6/8 Channel 8d6 DC 22 | Restorative Touch 7/7| Hierophant MR7| MP 17/17 Surge +1d10 | Staff of Healing 9 chg  | Effect: ] 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   I'm fine with whatever the group votes. 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Male Aasimar (Musetouched) Bloodrager (Urban) 1/Paladin (Virtuoso Bravo) 14 [Champion: 7] 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   If there are no tracks to follow, either one is good. 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Male  Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   DM Variel wrote:  Still need a fort save from everyone though but Morgrym...stupid not needing to breathe and all that mythic sustenance thing   Lol! Oh man that's greatness. :)  
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Cleric of Sarenrae 15 [ HP 121/121 (0 NL)| AC 28 T 17 FF 24| F12 R11 W16 +2 vs Death Effects| CMD 29| Init +11| Perc +7, Darkvision 60'  | 6/8 Channel 8d6 DC 22 | Restorative Touch 7/7| Hierophant MR7| MP 17/17 Surge +1d10 | Staff of Healing 9 chg  | Effect: ] 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   Hey, y'all, I wanted to let you know that my access to the forums may be reduced over the next week as we take a little road trip. Most years, I'm actually more available because I'm not at work, but if you are trying to get a response from me and not getting it, that's probably why. I'm always open to having my character botted to keep the story moving forward, so if you feel you must, go for it. Normal posting delays (i.e., work and general normal RL) will resume a week from now. 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
              
                
                   
	
		   sorry for delay but will update tomorrow. Crazy life going on with work and family. I should have plenty of time over the weekend to post though and move things along. 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Male  Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   No worries, bud. It's all good. Hope things settle down for you asap. 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Male Aasimar (Musetouched) Bloodrager (Urban) 1/Paladin (Virtuoso Bravo) 14 [Champion: 7] 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   I'll be away for the long weekend, which for us Canucks, begins today.  See everyone Monday. 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Cleric of Sarenrae 15 [ HP 121/121 (0 NL)| AC 28 T 17 FF 24| F12 R11 W16 +2 vs Death Effects| CMD 29| Init +11| Perc +7, Darkvision 60'  | 6/8 Channel 8d6 DC 22 | Restorative Touch 7/7| Hierophant MR7| MP 17/17 Surge +1d10 | Staff of Healing 9 chg  | Effect: ] 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   Cheers! I cannot throw shade on RL getting in the way! 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
              
                
                   
	
		   Just want to make sure everyone is cool with moving on and no other questions are raised. Don’t want to push and miss something. 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Female Elf Wizard (Manipulator) 15/Archmage 7   Portrait 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   I'm good with moving on, personally. 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
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                 Male Aasimar (Musetouched) Bloodrager (Urban) 1/Paladin (Virtuoso Bravo) 14 [Champion: 7] 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   All good.  Arigoder's sense motive is good, but not that good. ;) 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
              
                
                   
	
		   Let me guess Arigoder you are putting more points into it next level. Update later once I get a break from work. 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
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                 Male Aasimar (Musetouched) Bloodrager (Urban) 1/Paladin (Virtuoso Bravo) 14 [Champion: 7] 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   I have 8 ranks in it.  I mean, I'm not bad, especially given the wee little pool of paladin skill points. ;) 
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
                 Female Elf Wizard (Manipulator) 15/Archmage 7   Portrait 
              
              
                
                   
	
		   Nasira wrote: Should we all be 13th level now?  DM Variel wrote: After this fight yes. I was going to have 1 more encounter but it works now as we are adding 2 people before you go to the abyss  So, uh...should those of us who didn't join the party at 13th level go ahead and level up now that that fight (and a couple more) are over?  
  
    
      
        
  
  
        
        
 
          
          
            
              
              
                
                   
	
		   Yes...please make sure you are all 13th level |