Pleasure to be a part of this fine crew o' yours, divine!
Greetings everyone and congratulations for making the cut!
Rawwwwrrrr!
Hey Divine go make a post in Absalom so I can finish TPKing you all
dont you worry I have been!
/me waves.
As I was transferring stuff into the profile, I realized that his gear doesn't include any paperish substance or marking devices with which to make permanent maps! Or a case to put them in. I need to fix that.
Thank you for inviting me along on this little trip.
Anything specific you want us to put into the post header?
Edit: 8 30 point build characters? Why do I have the feeling you're going to ramp up the scripted combats against us?
Second Edit: Not that hyped about this avatar, but I didn't see a redheaded archer in the pick list. Doesn't mean one wasn't there. I just didn't see it.
I'm checking in. Apparently computer died, so I'm working on some ways to get it all posted, but it'll be up soon enough. :)
Also checking in and thanks for the opportunity. Looking forward to it. :)
Dotting it up - thanks for the selection, I should have Thrymr finalized over the course of the next 24 hours.
Checking in, thanks for the invite.
Hello guys, nice to meet you all.
hey guys I thought before we start we should chat.
I am a ranged character, mainly I will be focusing on my crossbow fighting.
Also I think as far as loot goes we should do a simple who needs it. It mulptile need it then they roll a d20 and the highest gets it. Need meaning you will use it and it is good for you like a INT band for a wiz
after that useful people roll for it
then we sell and split loot.
thoughts
We're all adults, are we not? I'd rather we split loot in character.
Caldrian will swap in and out of melee depending on the situation.
I am fine to do that, but I have found that long loot debates in character become a drag. sometime a little metagame is good. But I will of course bow to the group preference
If you're having long debates in character as to loot distribution; I fear those you play with are playing for the wrong reason.
I say equall distribution of all coin gathered (split equally each time we reach a shop and sell the loot), and equall share of equipment found. (Oh you wanted the +1 shield, sword AND armor from the boss? Well that means the rest of us split coin we get equal to the sell-price of your items. Rolling for loot is a dated system used to make children play nice with each other. It is a flawed system, where one can end up very rich or very poor. I say we stay away from rolling.
i think you misunderstand.
once you win you dont get to roll next time. also you only roll if there is multiple claims.
IE the bard and the sorcerer both want the CHA band. They roll off.
But if another item equally good for both drops the loser of the previous gets it.
See where I am going with this?
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I am staying out of this as the dm unless I am asked lol.
Also some of you have received a bonus feat to fit in with story due to this that or the other thing. If you have an idea of something you would like please pm me.
As for the game itself I am reworking ot so there are other factors playing beyond just the witches.... You shall meet them shortly after we start. I have opened game play and posted that there will be a meeting at noon game time. Which will be on Wednesday or possibly this evening. In the mean time feel free to shop for last minute supplies and meet each other.
Hello everyone.
Thank you Divineshadow for taking me on board.
It seems we have two bards to boot - just wanted to let you guys know that the idea behind Aldiran is full support and knowledge base :D
Regarding loot distribution I say we start off easy and modify it as we go. I have seen things as simple as "who needs take it and that's that", but I have also seen situations where this creates a big imbalance, and at level 4 one character having gear value equivalent to the double of another, simply because more stuff dropped for him.
This led to a need of balancing things out from that point onwards - for a fighter, it could make sense to carry a silvered sword +1, a masterwork cold iron sword, etc, while a character that does not rely so much on weapons cannot argue that he needs a +1 silvered greataxe, but it could make sense to sell it for that extension rod.
It is additional bookkeeping, but many times it makes sense to keep track of gear value for the characters. Just sayin.
And by the way, good to meet you all - I changed my Avatar to a somewhat more serious one, since Aldiran is not your average tralala bard :D
Roll-offs are a way to encourage and justify poor behavior. Sure, they control and limit that behavior, but they eliminate the need for the player to be and interact like a rational person cooperating within a larger group. They encourage a "me first" attitude, ESPECIALLY if there's no drawback to demanding involvement in a roll (still get first dibs on things "right" for the character).
Loot should be distributed based on need. Since we can all see each other's builds, need shouldn't be hard to agree upon. Want frequently is, of course.
In my AP experience, hand-me-downs are MANDATORY. If we establish that the person with the biggest need for save boosts is number 4, then the biggest and best Cloak of Resistance will always go to number 4, but as soon as we get an upgrade, the cloak number 4 had gets passed along. That's part of cooperating towards the common survival.
Loot doesn't belong to a particular character, it belongs to the group and gets distributed according to group needs. Adults can come to reasonable agreements easily enough. It shouldn't take long (within the story) for the characters to realize they are trying to survive in n arctic environment. Anybody who wants to be a lone wolf type character in that environment wouldn't BE with a group. Group survival isn't about creating a super-hero to save everyone else.
Everybody's checked-in. From what I can see looking at the character sheets, 3 of the 8 are dedicated ranged characters (Dovren (crossbow), Gimgisli (bow) & .Morrigan (hexes & crossbow)). Stolen Face could also easily be a primarily ranged character (sling & spear), but isn't required to be so by his weapon choices. Aldiran has only a whip. Alexandyr doesn't have any weapons listed on his sheet that I saw, but he does have Weapon Finesse, suggesting the intent to use a melee weapon when forced to. Caldrian is a melee character. Thrymr is the only true front-line build I've seen amongst us. We have an amazingly high number of dex-based builds. That's kind of interesting, actually, given the "common wisdom" of combat character construction using Pathfinder. I'm not a big fan of said "common wisdom, though, so this doesn't bother em a great deal.
Couldn't agree with you more, Grim.
Aldiran is completely non-combat oriented. I expect she will have the opportunity to use Acid Splash to fill in the gaps in actions during the round - it is only 1d3 but a level0 spell so...
Otherwise, she is dedicated to support - of course she is still only level one, but she should be able to contribute value to the group. I would rather we could put forth at least one more hardcore frontliner, but if we don't then I guess we'll just roll with it.
In any case, that is why her weapon is almost decorative :D
And I also agree very much with the "hand-me-downs", it makes perfect sense.
I'm aiming to build towards melee combat, seeing as how Caldrian is created with the Bladebound archtype. I'll probably pick up transmutation spells mostly, still working out the kinks. At level one, Caldrian is a bit AC light - but I'm sure he should do decent enough.
Stolen Face is a melee combatant also. My DEX is too low for ranged attacks. In combat I was planning in being a melee dmg dealer with some spot heals when needed. I can help with the knowledge skills also.
I am fine with Grimgisli's proposed compromise regarding loot.
Thrymr will most definitely be holding the line early on, before slowly transitioning to a one man wrecking ball once he starts stacking rage and feats together :)
I tend towards an organic loot setup where equipment goes to those that can best make use of it, and a return to town is where a check and balance is run to level things out somewhat. I dislike the concept of rolling off for anything, and dislike any system where people are disinclined from claiming flavorful items for fear of tanking their 'loot share'.
After you meet Thyrmr you might not really want to share much with him anyway...
I am fine with all of that. Really was not trying to be difficult, was trying to make use of our time and get people on the same page to avoid a possible squabble down the road..
I am sorry if you think I was trying to fight. :(
I'm so disappointed in you, Dorvren..
Nah, just kidding. I just don't like the whole rolling system. At least we got the whole thing out of the way, so that's a good thing.
So, we're pushing Thrymr into the fray then locking the door behind him? I like it!
there many alchemical focuses that do things like that.
alchemical grease an be expended to up the dc of grease for example
Dorvren: Null sheen, chummer!
The conversation SHOULD be held. All you did was put the bait out there and start it. A necessary step.
Now, how to introduce Grimgisli . . ..
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Good going I have mature players awesome. Floats on a cloud if DM happiness Ran a one shot at a con once whole thing got derailed over that argument before the mod had even started. I almost cryed. Gave up 2 Slots to do it cause one of the organizers was a buddy. Wasted the first and everything I wanted for the second was filled. Crap like that is why I haven't done this on here before. So glad you guys are better than that.
aw crap dm just said something nice, now we are guarnateed to TPK on the first fight
Well I have no armor lol. I couldnt afford it after my stupid xbow. Really makes my spiked armor spell shine!
Dorvren, you are protected by your faith? :D
Woohoo! Btw, divine, everything look good on the character?
shouldn't your to hit be +4 instead of +3?
Oops! Knew something wasn't quite right. Well, time to update that.
Family first. Especially in times of stress.
Expected stress is still stress. Sometimes it is worse than unexpected stress. It all just depends.
My last living grandparent (father's mother) isn't far behind your grandfather. She's right around 90 and very, very frail.
Thrymr's background feat is Shamed.
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Thrymr your also missing your background. And no this was something I was handing out because it fit in with the character. Dorven got skill focus engineering cause he like to build and tinker. Meir got feyfounling for making a a "Deal" Alex got the same as the Kitsune he is descended from were fey once. Nothing really powerful well execpt grims his is pretty potent.
Roger that, I'll transfer and tinker those bits later on tonight.