
chadius |

Confirmation and Wisp definitely have a lot more in the way of Boon incentives, but I think my preferred Evergreen is Consortium Compact. It's not necessarily a fantastic scenario, but I feel it fosters creative problem solving.
I GM'd it once and played it 2 or 3 times I think, and each time it was a pretty different experience.
I really, really like Consortium Compact. There is lots of variance and many ways to tackle the challenges. I think they learned from how... repetitive Confirmation and the Wounded Wisp are.

GM Hmm |

Consortium Compact has been different every time I run it.
I also love Phantom Phenomena and House of Harmonious Wisdom. Gallows of Madness was a blast to run, as was Murder's Mark. I have lots of favorite evergreens.
I have never run the Confirmation, though I've been assigned it for PSA at GenCon, so I will be running it there for the very first time.
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I do like The Confirmation. I like that it has some interesting challenges and a fun NPC. I also like first level characters, back when a wolf is a real threat to you.
I've GMed it 12 times and played it another six.
I'm also a guilty one for signing up for a lot of games. In my defence, while I'm signed up to play five GD6 games, I'm also GMing four.

Pirate Rob |
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1) My apologies if anybody feels called out unfairly, I just found the stats interesting. I think I ended up in something like 7 games on the last pbp game day.
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2)
I actually really like the Confirmation.
It's got some fun exploration, it's a little different each time, even has a neat BBEG that potentially teaches some interesting things about tactics.
Bits of Consortium Compact feel forced to me and The Wounded Wisp mystery always feels a little weird to me.
The good news is we've got a bunch of Evergreens and we can all do the adventures that make us the happiest.
(I think I may have overdone it on The Confirmation with 16 plays and 7 GM credits)
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3)
So, I've played a few pbps, some great, mostly good, a few really bad pbps.
More so than having my time wasted I'm worried about losing my only chance to experience a scenario for the first time. Even with replays I can't get that back. So with GMs who I'm not familiar with I'd much rather play an evergreen with them. (My addiction to PFS gets the better of me sometimes though)
Even if things go horribly wrong. or aren't enjoyable for whatever reason at least I haven't lost out on something unique.

Pirate Rob |

It's definitely from left field, but when I imagined 17 confirmations, all I could think of was Groundhog Day. @_@
Also, Pirate Rob is clearly a spreadsheet god. I think I would've gone a bit blind - did you have to do that all manually or were you able to just combine the sheets? o:
Well some were spreadsheets, and some where just people on recruitment/discussion threads. For spreadsheets I was able to copy/paste the players on to my list. For other methods I typed in who I thought the players were.
I then sorted the column alphabetically to make it easier to spot check for errors
Then used
=query(query($A$1:$A,"select A, upper(A) where (A is not null and A<>'')",0),"select Col1, count(Col2) group by Col1 order by count(Col2) desc label count(Col2) 'count'",1)
to get the totals.
Sheet with names and totals on it
I've got degrees in Accounting and Economics and do a fair amount of interesting spreadsheet work. If you're in the US and need tax or other accounting or analysis work done, I do freelance work at affordable rates, Send me a message :)

Pirate Rob |

Also I found a couple of names with different spelling/spacing/capitalization, like PJP who's actaully at 9 instead of 7.
PJP 9
Bigguyinblack 6
kuey 6
Aerondor 5
Otha 5
Z..D.. 5
Blake's Tiger 4
GM Andrew 4
Gerald 4
Nefreet 4
Redelia 4
Tundran 4
Upaynao 4
Werepox47 4
Xynen 4
Cartmanbeck 3
Ed Birnbryer 3
Granta 3
JAF0 3
Rogar Valertis 3
Wormys_Queue 3
WrongJohnSilver 3
Zahariel 3
djpika 3
qwerty1971 3
Chris Marsh 2
CyrusC2010 2
ElektraDawns 2
GM Red 2
GummyBear 2
Karmic Knight 2
Luthor Volandis 2
Massee 2
Pete H. 2
RyckyRych 2
Sedoriku 2
Sedoriku 2
Sethran 2
TriShadow 2
Wicked Brew 2
chadius 2
debugamp 2
dwilhelmi 2
hiyami 2
qstor 2
Agent_Eclipse 1
Andreww 1
Awenydd83 1
Banesama 1
Batpony 1
Codar 1
CursedFrogurt 1
Cwethan 1
DM S 1
Dien 1
Dystopiandream 1
Eben 1
Enchanter Tim 1
GM Harker 1
Gayel Nord 1
GeraintElberion 1
Greymore 1
Harker 1
JacklieLane 1
Jamzilla 1
Kerry Wauson 1
Magabeus 1
MindXing 1
Mjolbeard89 1
Pastiche 1
Pirate Rob 1
Psyblade 1
Revvy Bitterleaf 1
Rungok 1
RychyRych 1
Shieldbug 1
Shifty 1
Slayde77 1
Stonegarde 1
Suede 1
Wrong John Silver 1
Zoomba 1
capsocrates 1
d'Eon 1
khaozknight 1
lucklesshero 1
tundran 1

GM Andrew |

I also like first level characters, back when a wolf is a real threat to you.
I'm afraid we are not of the same opinion. I rarely play level 1 anymore due to GMing. ;)
I'm also a guilty one for signing up for a lot of games. In my defence, while I'm signed up to play five GD6 games, I'm also GMing four.
Just to add to this, I will say a typical convention is usually at least 6 slots, usually a lot more, so live that is what you can play.
Now, not that this is like a live convention, but still worth pointing out. ;)
I'm one of those VOs that uses PbP to play. Especially CORE. Especially CORE. Way more popular online than in my local area. Actually all PFS games I'm signed up for are CORE for the gameday.

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1) My apologies if anybody feels called out unfairly, I just found the stats interesting. I think I ended up in something like 7 games on the last pbp game day.
Can't speak for everyone, but since I specifically mentioned getting "called out", I can say it was just in jest.
Also I completely agree with your 3rd point.
So far I'm signed up almost exclusively for Starfinder stuff, need to make sure I get my name on a few actual Pathfinder games.

kuey |

Of the evergreens, I actually enjoy running the Wounded Wisp the most, especially for new players. I know the "mystery" is kind of lame, but I see it more as a structured process to introduce the lore of Pathfinder Society to new players. Also, depending on the skill and experience of the players, I can easily adjust the difficulty of the last encounter by using the terrain. As for the Confirmation, while it is a fun romp, the last encounter can be quite deadly. My first ever character death was from that encounter! :P

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Of the evergreens, I actually enjoy running the Wounded Wisp the most, especially for new players. I know the "mystery" is kind of lame, but I see it more as a structured process to introduce the lore of Pathfinder Society to new players. Also, depending on the skill and experience of the players, I can easily adjust the difficulty of the last encounter by using the terrain. As for the Confirmation, while it is a fun romp, the last encounter can be quite deadly. My first ever character death was from that encounter! :P
I actually like the mystery in Wounded Wisp. The only part that sticks out to me is how Dreng knows about the secret room in the Wisp and why he doesn't do it himself. Easily answered by playing up Dren's eccentricities during his introduction.
Confirmation, meanwhile, is fun, but none of the sections really hold together as a cohesive unit.

Faelyn |

kuey wrote:Of the evergreens, I actually enjoy running the Wounded Wisp the most, especially for new players. I know the "mystery" is kind of lame, but I see it more as a structured process to introduce the lore of Pathfinder Society to new players. Also, depending on the skill and experience of the players, I can easily adjust the difficulty of the last encounter by using the terrain. As for the Confirmation, while it is a fun romp, the last encounter can be quite deadly. My first ever character death was from that encounter! :PI actually like the mystery in Wounded Wisp. The only part that sticks out to me is how Dreng knows about the secret room in the Wisp and why he doesn't do it himself. Easily answered by playing up Dren's eccentricities during his introduction.
Confirmation, meanwhile, is fun, but none of the sections really hold together as a cohesive unit.
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1) My apologies if anybody feels called out unfairly, I just found the stats interesting. I think I ended up in something like 7 games on the last pbp game day.
Fairly or not, called out I was! I recall in the past being unable to get into a game, and Starfinder tables were filling up so quick, I think I got overzealous.
In any case, I pulled out of all games except 1 mid-level core in each session, and 2 SFS games. Where there was someone on the wait-list, I moved them into the position (so they will currently appear in both spots).
I will still be GMing what I planned.

kuey |

And in fact, the dhampir was the one who dug the pit at the start to capture the gillmen. The pit was originally camouflaged, but after the dhampir was killed by his own creations, the camouflage is largely gone (it was mentioned that there were remnants of leaves, etc). The cloak at the bottom of the pit belonged to one of the gillmen thus captured, but the dhampir for some reason had missed.
I've always GMed it as Dreng knew that Foster had hidden something in the wine cellar of the tavern but not exactly what or where. It was not high on his priority though so from time to time, he sends some PCs to collect a bottle of wine to see if it triggers something. Besides, who wouldn't mind a good bottle of wine. Alternatively, I think you can play it as Dreng not knowing anything at all, and everything that happen is purely coincidental.

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Ahh, the Pit. I had assumed the Gillmen had dug it somehow (not sure how, or how the Dhampir did it for that matter) to keep them safe from wandering critters in the forest.

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*shrug* I mostly play a lot of evergreens because I have a lot of character concepts I want to get some XP on without burning any interesting scenarios on them. Level 1 is not that much fun to me (relatively speaking!) And I'd rather play non-evergreen scenarios with characters that are higher than level 1.
I don't like First Steps or Wounded Wisp that much; they both feel a little canned. The Confirmation is better but I've played it so many times now. Consortium Compact is promising in the couple play-throughs I've done so far. I like the evergreen modules I've played as well. The Kassen one is very challenging (I saw at least one PC death in my playthrough) and Murder's Mark is fun as well.
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GM_CariMac |

Speaking of evergreens. I've looked, and I can't seem to find an official list of evergreen scenarios and modules. Everyone just seems to know what they are.

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I reeeeeealy dislike tengu, but if other people want to play them then go right ahead.
"You're probably right about a good proportion of us, we're stereotyped as rather shifty folks what are the sorts that hang out in slums and worse. 'd like t' think, though, that some of us showin' better examples can help the wayward fledgelings to a better path?"

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Is there a way to remove a campaign from your list without needing the GM to archive it? We had a GM disappear on one before it started, and I'd like to get it off my current list.
If the GM is gone, you could try to contact someone who maintains the website, otherwise you can follow these steps:
At the top of this page click Online Campaigns.
From there you can click on Play-By-Post in the subforums section.
From there you should see a button that says Focus right next to the option to start a new thread. Click that, it will shorten the available threads to games you are in, or have looked at.
From there, find the Gameplay thread you are trying to remove from your campaign tab, and all the way on the right should be a Ø.
You can click on that to hide the thread, and you wont see it in your campaign tabs anymore.
Speaking of evergreens. I've looked, and I can't seem to find an official list of evergreen scenarios and modules. Everyone just seems to know what they are.
There's this link that only shows the three commonly played in PFS. The rest however, as you say, just seem to be scenarios that you learn are replayable by word-of-mouth.

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Speaking of evergreens. I've looked, and I can't seem to find an official list of evergreen scenarios and modules. Everyone just seems to know what they are.
I knew I favorited this post for a reason. Not exactly official, but mostly complete albeit 2 years old:
Replayable scenario list from 2015
It is missing Consortium Compact, Phantom Phenomenon, and House of Harmonious Wisdom (that I know of.)
As a side note, when I went back to look at the rest of that thread to see if there were any updates (there aren't), I noticed the only subsequent post was by our fearless leader, HMM. So it must be official! ;)

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My understanding is that all Tier 1 or Tier 1-2 scenarios are evergreen (i.e. tier 1-5 are *not*).
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Pirate Rob |

I strongly suspect I copy/pasted at least one game's signups twice. I had a player PM me asking me to help them figure out what game they signed up for and then forgot about.
Not able to find it... I think one game got its players entered twice. Not going to go track down the exact spot the error is but I'm not particularly surprised that an error like that crept in.
As a note I don't plan on updating those stats going forward, they'll just be a snapshot of what things were like.

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Shifty wrote:I reeeeeealy dislike tengu."But, um, I thought we were . . ." Fek shuffles away, disappearing in his oversized cloak. See, nobody likes me!
Aww Malachi and Fek, all good - the point I was making was that I personally am not a fan, however other people should feel free to fill their boots :) I like Aasimars as I like to play heroic 'good guy', and they seem to fit that bill.
I'm happy to let people play what they want, I find all this 'ban x race' thinking really dull. Don't like em? Don't play 'em .
AS a side note though, I'd totally go a Tengu in an Eastern campaign though.

GM_CariMac |

Thank you Nomadical. The big reason I was asking about the official list is because I'm confused. Happens a lot.
Master of the Fallen fortress is on the Free RPG day boon for 2017 as something you can replay with the boon as well as the Goblins, but most Evergreen lists I see have it listed as replayable.

Magabeus |
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All Tier 1 and 1-2 adventures can be replayed an unlimited number of times with a 1st-level character for credit. The Tier 1 and 1–2 adventures can also be played with a 2nd-level character once for credit in each campaign mode (Core and Standard Modes). GMs receive another Chronicle sheet each time they run one of the Tier 1 and Tier 1-2 adventures, but can only apply a Chronicle sheet to one 2nd-level character per adventure per campaign mode.
And indeed, beside evergreen adventures there are two others that can be replayed (that I know of):

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Fek wrote:Shifty wrote:I reeeeeealy dislike tengu."But, um, I thought we were . . ." Fek shuffles away, disappearing in his oversized cloak. See, nobody likes me!Aww Malachi and Fek, all good - the point I was making was that I personally am not a fan, however other people should feel free to fill their boots :) I like Aasimars as I like to play heroic 'good guy', and they seem to fit that bill.
I'm happy to let people play what they want, I find all this 'ban x race' thinking really dull. Don't like em? Don't play 'em .
AS a side note though, I'd totally go a Tengu in an Eastern campaign though.
"Me understand. Me think you should come visit Ravenmoor, see all the improvements me has made since me become Baron. Me hero of Ravenmoor! Me now Baron and Mayor too!
Or you visit beautiful Kwanlai, where me was hatched. Me miss Kwanlai. Me was taken when me was only a chick. Me want to go back one day, but Baron and Mayor have responsibilities!"

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Thank you Nomadical. The big reason I was asking about the official list is because I'm confused. Happens a lot.
Master of the Fallen fortress is on the Free RPG day boon for 2017 as something you can replay with the boon as well as the Goblins, but most Evergreen lists I see have it listed as replayable.
It did throw me as well then I realised it was a list of all the free RPG day modules. Which also includes the two evergreen goblin one as well ( we be goblins . We before goblins)

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I've only played the Confirmation, First Steps, and the Tome of Righteous Repose off the replayable list.
I've had terrible luck in that I've prepped Wounded Wisp twice and neither time did the table make.

JAF0 |

Hi all, I guess this is mostly for Hmm, but if anyone else wants to chime in, that's fine too. I finished up a game Broken Chains just recently and our GM offered us chronicles and said we'd have them by 9pm Saturday. Since then, he has disappeared, no word, no responses to pm's or posts on the thread... Does anyone know DoubleGold? Is he okay? And if he doesn't return, are we just sol, or is there some way for the online vc to help us out?
Here is the link to the thread.
Thanks for your time.

Magabeus |
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JAF0:
I see one post from his alias Mordack on Monday. I stopped looking after I found that.
I recommend that you post a question in the campaign, asking for your chronicles. There is always an option for the online VO team to help out, but it is my opinion that it is too early for that. Is there a need to get the chronicle quickly? You can download a blank chronicle here. Combine that with a print of the GM's last post and I would let you start in a new game without any problem.
That does not take away the issue, and I do agree that GMs need to deliver the chronicle shortly after the game, but it lets you continue. If you did not receive a chronicle by next Saturday it is indeed time to warn the online VO team.
I do appreciate your concern on your GM's well-being. Hope my advice was helpful

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Checking over that Gameplay thread JAFO, it looks like two of your fellow players didn't provide their chronicle info until early Sunday morning, and one player has still not submitted their information.
That might also be the reason for the delay, but hopefully your GM contacts you soon, if not, Magebeus has offered some solid advice.

GM Hmm |
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Pirate Rob wrote:1) My apologies if anybody feels called out unfairly, I just found the stats interesting. I think I ended up in something like 7 games on the last pbp game day.
Fairly or not, called out I was! I recall in the past being unable to get into a game, and Starfinder tables were filling up so quick, I think I got overzealous.
In any case, I pulled out of all games except 1 mid-level core in each session, and 2 SFS games. Where there was someone on the wait-list, I moved them into the position (so they will currently appear in both spots).
I will still be GMing what I planned.
I didn't mean to cause you to back out of games. I am just trying to make sure that more people can get into games for future signups. But thank you for making room for those on the waiting list!
GM_CariMac wrote:Speaking of evergreens. I've looked, and I can't seem to find an official list of evergreen scenarios and modules. Everyone just seems to know what they are.
I knew I favorited this post for a reason. Not exactly official, but mostly complete albeit 2 years old:
Replayable scenario list from 2015
It is missing Consortium Compact, Phantom Phenomenon, and House of Harmonious Wisdom (that I know of.)
As a side note, when I went back to look at the rest of that thread to see if there were any updates (there aren't), I noticed the only subsequent post was by our fearless leader, HMM. So it must be official! ;)
Oh my goodness! Given the sheer frequency with which I post, my mere presence in a thread does not make *anything* official!
However, here is the VERY BEST LIST of EVERGREENS that I know. It was put together by the amazing Terminalmancer in Pittsburgh, and it is up to date!
I hope this helps!
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I've actually never seen a PC death in The Confirmation, but two of the four PCs that I've killed as a GM happened in First Steps 1 and The Consortium Compact, believe it or not. The other two were both in The Dalsine Affair, which probably doesn't surprise anyone familiar with that scenario.
The first time we ever ran The Confirmation, first-time player using a Paladin charged and confirmed a critical with a lance/spear on the BBEG, crap rolls for damage, BBEG returned the favor with a near to max damage critical. First and last day of Mango Paladin of Iomedae.
That player eventually became one of the most active players even got a few GM games under his belt, before school life got in the way.

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I've had that last fight go both ways.. One game a stonelord paladin simply walked up and shoved his ax through the BBEG's skull, and another table more recently had a much more difficult time with it between a dwarf that couldn't swim, and several knockout/healing/knock out cycles.

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I've had that last fight go both ways.. One game a stonelord paladin simply walked up and shoved his ax through the BBEG's skull, and another table more recently had a much more difficult time with it between a dwarf that couldn't swim, and several knockout/healing/knock out cycles.
grunts
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Fromper wrote:I've actually never seen a PC death in The Confirmation, but two of the four PCs that I've killed as a GM happened in First Steps 1 and The Consortium Compact, believe it or not. The other two were both in The Dalsine Affair, which probably doesn't surprise anyone familiar with that scenario.The first time we ever ran The Confirmation, first-time player using a Paladin charged and confirmed a critical with a lance/spear on the BBEG, crap rolls for damage, BBEG returned the favor with a near to max damage critical. First and last day of Mango Paladin of Iomedae.
That player eventually became one of the most active players even got a few GM games under his belt, before school life got in the way.
As I said, I've never seen a PC death in that one, but I've seen our tour guide die three times. Twice in that fight, and once in a completely different scenario featuring the same NPC.

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I guess this is where I share this Confirmation story:
At the pit trap, he tried to jump over the spiked pit. He failed (barely) and ended up falling down the pit onto the spikes. Of course, the spikes crit him, and he died right there on the spot to the pit trap.
He didn't really care too much because it was a joke character. In fact he found it hilarious.

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What other scenario does Janira appear in? It wasn't Wisp, was it?
She does appear in a third scenario besides The Confirmation and Wounded Wisp, though she really shouldn't be getting into combat even there.

JAF0 |
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Thanks for the responses... I am actually more worried about the player behind the screen than the chronicles, but of course both are of concern.. .I will wait longer and address the chronicle issue only if there's no appearance by the end of next weekend... I am running a game on Sunday at my local game store, and will have time to think about how to proceed after that... Hopefully he will show up before then of course...

GM Blake |

I wonder if I moved up on a wait list...
I had 2 PFS and 1 SFS at the time of Pirate Rob's list, and I just signed up for my 4th (2nd SFS) this morning.
Wanders off to scan through every single listing.
Perception: 20 + 1 = 21
Looks like an accounting error. Silly pirates.