After GM describes the forest we're searching as getting weirdly colorful, as we seem to be getting closer to a wild magic portal that we knew we were looking for.
Cleric player: Either we're getting close to the portal or Willy Wonka's factory.
Rogue player: Starts singing Oompa Loompa song
Me: Willy Wonka's big secret: Oompa Loompas are actually Pathfinder gnomes.
Rogue player: *singing* Do you see what I see?
Cleric player: *very matter of factly* No I don't. My perception is lower.
So, wait. That means Serini didn't know that Xykon had already beaten Durokan before the Order of the Stick arrived in his dungeon. I thought she was more on top of things than that.
When was it mentioned that Monster-San is dominated? I thought he went along with Team Evil pretty much willingly, due to ignorance and not realizing there were other options.
Even if he is dominated, he will get another will save if ordered to do something completely against his nature. And these days, attacking O-Chul would certainly quality. Probably not true of the rest of the team.
I think this confirms that Monster-San has officially gone full undercover good guy. It's a good thing Mr. Stiffly is there with the good guys, as I really don't think that convincing him to switch sides and actively fight against Team Evil in the final fight won't be a challenge.
So Roy and Durkon realized that they've treated the goblins badly, and never really thought to question why Redcloak and the goblins were doing what they're doing. And this has brought me to a major realization, too.
Belkar was right.
I mean WAY back. At the first mention of a plot back in OOTS #13:
Plot, Ahoy!
"I just figured we'd wander around, kill some sentient beings because they have green skin and fangs and we don't, and then take their stuff."
And this came up again recently in one of my games. I was playing my grippli in a PFS game, and there was a nagaji PC, so it was joked that we reptiles need to stick together. But I said I'd guess gripplies are amphibians, not reptiles. And the discussion led to whether or not they have a tadpole stage.
The last few panels were among the funniest I have seen in a while. Clerics are indeed the worst.
Yeah, I don't know why I found that SO funny, especially in combination with the title, but I cracked up laughing at that ending. I thought maybe I was just over-tired. I tend to get silly when I'm tired.
All I know is Redcloak could have just cast Miracle and asked his god what he thought. :P
But that's just me.
If he has that spell prepared. Remember, he's adventuring every night behind those doors, so having a spell that can "save or die" up to 4 targets with a saving throw based on being a level 9 spell is a pretty good prepped spell for him.
I looked up the spell, since I wasn't familiar with it. It's a level 9 fort save or die.
I see two possibilities:
1. Durkon has to make the saving throw or die.
2. This is exactly what Thor wanted. Red Cloak just gave him the energy of a 9th level spell from the Dark One, just like Thor asked for. That might not be what Red Cloak intended, but if Thor can step in to save Durkon and take that energy, then it's a win.
So I haven't been doing nearly as much 1e PFS lately, and I'm pretty far behind the times these days. I'm trying to figure out how many replays I have available, and how to track them, so I can jump into a game that some friends are doing of an adventure I've already played.
Back before 2e, I used my GM stars to replay some adventures until I ran out of available replays. Then I used a boon to "recharge" the stars. Then I replayed another 3, so I still have 1 left based on stars. And I have another old boon to recharge them again. So that's 5 available replays, where I'm seriously considering saving the last 4 to play Eyes of the Ten with a 2nd character.
But I know there was also some sort of one time replay award given out around the time of the switch over to 2e. I just don't remember exactly what it was or how it works, and I haven't been around here much lately, so I don't really know where to look. Can someone refresh my memory?
Helpful for counting, though
I love how the pets are full on members of the team. Even the cat. I'm convinced he's a full on animal companion these days, and he'll be truly useful in battle when the time comes.
And I'm still waiting for the day that V casts Dispel Magic on the lizard to turn it back into a t-rex.
Another thing I'm realizing is that he's going more into the details of secondary team members than I would expect. It's almost as if he's setting up Minrah, Bandana, etc to be OOTS: The Next Generation when the current story ends.
Given the title, I was expecting it to focus on Julia (somewhat posing as a spirit) giving Roy advice. This was interesting in a completely different way.
As for Durkon, I'm sure playing with his kid takes up some time too.
Yup. The entire point of this interlude is that the rest of the team are killing time while waiting for the team clerics (note the plural) to say their goodbyes and gather their stuff.
I haven't read all 500+ posts in this thread to see if this has been addressed yet, but I have to ask: Why are these books so expensive?
136 pages for $37 (or $35 in the case of the next one, Lost Omen Character Guide) is nearly twice the price per page of what Paizo used to charge for hardcovers in 1st edition. Compare to 256 page books like Ultimate Combat or Advanced Race Guide, which are only $45 hardcover today, and I swear I remember them being only $40 when they were new.
And adventure paths used to be 100 pages for $20. I can understand that they need to raise prices once in a while, thus the 2e AP is now $25 per book, but it's still almost as many pages as this thing that sells for $37.
Whatever happened to monthly softcovers that were only $13-20? I don't have unlimited money to spend, so I pick and choose which books to buy based on content. I'm still on the fence about 2e, having only bought the Core Rulebook so far. But if every monthly book is going to be this stupidly expensive for so little content, then the books I pick and choose to buy aren't going to be from Paizo ever again.
What part of "carry someone off the battlefield" is not clear? Who is naked on the battlefield...?
Here's the exact quote from the book:
Core Rulebook, page 272 wrote:
You might need to know the Bulk of a creature, especially if you need to carry someone off the battlefield. The table that follows lists the typical Bulk of a creature based on its size, but the GM might adjust this number.
It doesn't say that's the bulk of a creature and its gear. Just the bulk of the creature. The chart that follows has small creatures listed as 3 bulk. How can someone wearing 4 bulk full plate, a 1 bulk heavy shield, sheathed weapons that might add another 1 or 2 bulk, and a 2 bulk adventurer's kit in their backpack be only 3 bulk?
As for who's naked on the battlefield, how about an ogre in a loincloth (once it drops its club), or a dragon, or any wild animal, or any of various other monsters that don't typically wear armor or carry much gear?
Saros Palanthios wrote:
Ask yourself, what's more likely: that Paizo's whole team of professional designers, writers, and editors are a bunch of incompetent fools who created a system that makes no sense... or that you made a mistake in your reading?
You haven't been playing Pathfinder long, have you? I'm not saying that Paizo's staff are incompetent. But mistakes happen. Sometimes major ones. Nobody's perfect.
When Starfinder first came out, the entire spaceship combat system just plain didn't work at high levels, because they got the math wrong, so an errata was necessary. When coming out with a 640 page rulebook for a whole new version of Pathfinder, something like doing the math on a small creature riding a medium mount to make sure the encumbrance works is a relatively trivial detail that I could certainly see them overlooking.
Saros Palanthios wrote:
The table on pg 272 lists the "typical" bulk of a creature, then qualifies it with "but the GM might adjust this number". Both of your examples are obvious cases where the GM should apply an adjustment for atypical circumstances.
You're grasping for a hard-and-fast, one-size-fits-all rule, but that's not how this game works. The whole PF2 system is built around the twin ideas that
1)it's pointless to try to predict and make rules for every possible corner case or combination of circumstances, but
2)most GMs and players are reasonable and can be trusted to apply the rules in a way that makes sense in the context of their narrative.
Except that "GM discretion" has always been a code word in Pathfinder for "this doesn't apply to Pathfinder Society". In PFS, the table GM is just a judge for that particular session. Whenever a Pathfinder book says "Your GM might allow this", the GM for the entire campaign is the one who has to make those calls, and for PFS, that campaign GM is the Paizo employee who manages the entire organized play campaign.
